Historic (rec.food.historic) Discussing and discovering how food was made and prepared way back when--From ancient times down until (& possibly including or even going slightly beyond) the times when industrial revolution began to change our lives.

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This is a wonder all over the world. Some people even think it is an animal !!

Very traditional.
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The whole animal thing is the fault of Scots abroad.
The thing is to see how far you get in the story before your audiences
stops believing you.

The lesser spotted anti-clockwise haggis generally does that. Is such fun.

Did you know that a traditional haggis is illegal in the states as the
FDA banned the lights (lungs) being used as an ingredient years ago amid
fears of TB spreading to humans. People smuggle them in for Burn's night
apparently.

Is very tasty as a stuffing in turkey at Christmas.

Alison wrote:
> This is a wonder all over the world. Some people even think it is an animal !!
>
> Very traditional.

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Lazarus Cooke
 
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In article >, Helen
McElroy > wrote:

> The whole animal thing is the fault of Scots abroad.
> The thing is to see how far you get in the story before your audiences
> stops believing you.
>
> The lesser spotted anti-clockwise haggis generally does that. Is such fun.
>
> Did you know that a traditional haggis is illegal in the states as the
> FDA banned the lights (lungs) being used as an ingredient years ago amid
> fears of TB spreading to humans. People smuggle them in for Burn's night
> apparently.
>
> Is very tasty as a stuffing in turkey at Christmas.
>
> Alison wrote:
> > This is a wonder all over the world. Some people even think it is an animal !!
> >
> > Very traditional.

What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy it
in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap
ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty
good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well
balanced nutritionally!)

L

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Lazarus Cooke wrote:

> In article >, Helen
> McElroy > wrote:
>
> > The whole animal thing is the fault of Scots abroad.
> > The thing is to see how far you get in the story before your audiences
> > stops believing you.
> >
> > The lesser spotted anti-clockwise haggis generally does that. Is such fun.
> >
> > Did you know that a traditional haggis is illegal in the states as the
> > FDA banned the lights (lungs) being used as an ingredient years ago amid
> > fears of TB spreading to humans. People smuggle them in for Burn's night
> > apparently.
> >
> > Is very tasty as a stuffing in turkey at Christmas.
> >
> > Alison wrote:
> > > This is a wonder all over the world. Some people even think it is an animal !!
> > >
> > > Very traditional.

> What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy it
> in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap
> ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty
> good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well
> balanced nutritionally!)
>
> L
>
> --
> Remover the rock from the email address


We eat both here regularly: There's a recipe for haggis on my web site. Look under
Scottish recipes... http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk

Kate (Sig line AWOL!)



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Lazarus Cooke wrote:

> In article >, Helen
> McElroy > wrote:
>
> > The whole animal thing is the fault of Scots abroad.
> > The thing is to see how far you get in the story before your audiences
> > stops believing you.
> >
> > The lesser spotted anti-clockwise haggis generally does that. Is such fun.
> >
> > Did you know that a traditional haggis is illegal in the states as the
> > FDA banned the lights (lungs) being used as an ingredient years ago amid
> > fears of TB spreading to humans. People smuggle them in for Burn's night
> > apparently.
> >
> > Is very tasty as a stuffing in turkey at Christmas.
> >
> > Alison wrote:
> > > This is a wonder all over the world. Some people even think it is an animal !!
> > >
> > > Very traditional.

> What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy it
> in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap
> ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty
> good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well
> balanced nutritionally!)
>
> L
>
> --
> Remover the rock from the email address


We eat both here regularly: There's a recipe for haggis on my web site.
Look under
Scottish recipes... http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk

Kate (Sig line AWOL!)


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Lazarus Cooke muttered....


> What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy
> it in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap
> ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty
> good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well
> balanced nutritionally!)
>


While I find haggis quite palatable (and have even eaten a couple of
versions I could call good, one even better), I'm not sure that it's a
"people's food" at this point in the Scots' national culinary landscape.

There are a number of dishes (of which haggis is one) which deserve a
better fate than what likely awaits them....

Scrapple (and folks who debate the merits of a Philly Cheesesteak are
unlearned barbarians likely to have never eaten good scrapple).

Menudo (para la cruda) and the plainer version, simple posole, when made
with "real" dry hominy.

Spoonbread

"Cheese Grits" (at least the souffle-ish versions, dome of which actually
have leavening)

TMO
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Olivers wrote:
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> Lazarus Cooke muttered....
>
>
> > What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy
> > it in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap
> > ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty
> > good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well
> > balanced nutritionally!)
> >

>
> While I find haggis quite palatable (and have even eaten a couple of
> versions I could call good, one even better), I'm not sure that it's a
> "people's food" at this point in the Scots' national culinary landscape.


Are you based in Scotland? If not, rest assured that last time I
looked, it was readily available in both supermarkets and butcher's
shops, and eaten regularly. If you are, then I don't know where you are
looking, but while most folk don't make there own, it seems to be eaten
as regularly as Lorne saussage and butteries! Or kippers, Scotch pies
and Arbroath smokies...

> There are a number of dishes (of which haggis is one) which deserve a
> better fate than what likely awaits them....
>
> Scrapple (and folks who debate the merits of a Philly Cheesesteak are
> unlearned barbarians likely to have never eaten good scrapple).
>
> Menudo (para la cruda) and the plainer version, simple posole, when made
> with "real" dry hominy.
>
> Spoonbread
>
> "Cheese Grits" (at least the souffle-ish versions, dome of which actually
> have leavening)
>
> TMO


One day I will save enough WW points to make cornbread...
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Kate Dicey muttered....


>
> Are you based in Scotland? If not, rest assured that last time I
> looked, it was readily available in both supermarkets and butcher's
> shops, and eaten regularly. If you are, then I don't know where you
> are looking, but while most folk don't make there own, it seems to be
> eaten as regularly as Lorne saussage and butteries! Or kippers,
> Scotch pies and Arbroath smokies...
>


While I'm in Scotland for a only few days every two years, my comparison
standard of two decades back, a two month period traveling about the
country left me believing that haggis (and several other traditional
dishes, Scottish and Aglo-S) were rapidly reaching the state of being
quaint survivors of a culture and cuisine cherished by a few and unknown to
many.

There was visible haggis around, but the percentage of the population who
seemed to eat it regularly had diminished to tourists, traditionalists and
the hardy band of folks to whom it appealed in a culinary sense.

While I would be open to challenge (and gladly accept it), I would doubt
whether more than 5% of the current population of Scotland would eat haggis
more than once in 30 day period (or at any time other than a special
celebratory occasion). Even that represents more folks than the percentage
of Pennsylvanians who eat scrapple regularly.

.....but maybe MickyD's will put a Haggis McMuffin up on the menu board.


TMO

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Lazarus Cooke wrote:

> In article >, Helen
> McElroy > wrote:
>
>
>>The whole animal thing is the fault of Scots abroad.
>>The thing is to see how far you get in the story before your audiences
>>stops believing you.
>>
>>The lesser spotted anti-clockwise haggis generally does that. Is such fun.
>>
>>Did you know that a traditional haggis is illegal in the states as the
>>FDA banned the lights (lungs) being used as an ingredient years ago amid
>>fears of TB spreading to humans. People smuggle them in for Burn's night
>>apparently.
>>
>>Is very tasty as a stuffing in turkey at Christmas.
>>
>>Alison wrote:
>>
>>>This is a wonder all over the world. Some people even think it is an animal !!
>>>
>>>Very traditional.

>
> What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy it
> in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap
> ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty
> good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well
> balanced nutritionally!)
>
> L
>


Lazarus -

What's cullen skink?

Peg

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"Peggy" > wrote in message
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> What's cullen skink?

http://www.rampantscotland.com/recip...ipe_cullen.htm

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Opinicus wrote:
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> "Peggy" > wrote in message
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> > What's cullen skink?

> http://www.rampantscotland.com/recip...ipe_cullen.htm


The potato doesn't have to be mashed: in some areas, you drop them in in
lumps and let bits disintegrate in the soup, so it thickens it and you
get the lumps too. My granny used to just squeeze them a bit as she
dropped them in, so the lumps were all different sizes and shapes!

In some areas, diced or grated neeps are also added. It's like most
other peasant recipes: a basic idea with slight regional variations.

A hotel I worked in on the Fife coast did a very local variation I
havent seen elswhere, made with fresh partons. After completion, it was
pureed.

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Peggy wrote:
>
> Lazarus Cooke wrote:
>
> > In article >, Helen
> > McElroy > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>The whole animal thing is the fault of Scots abroad.
> >>The thing is to see how far you get in the story before your audiences
> >>stops believing you.
> >>
> >>The lesser spotted anti-clockwise haggis generally does that. Is such fun.
> >>
> >>Did you know that a traditional haggis is illegal in the states as the
> >>FDA banned the lights (lungs) being used as an ingredient years ago amid
> >>fears of TB spreading to humans. People smuggle them in for Burn's night
> >>apparently.
> >>
> >>Is very tasty as a stuffing in turkey at Christmas.
> >>
> >>Alison wrote:
> >>
> >>>This is a wonder all over the world. Some people even think it is an animal !!
> >>>
> >>>Very traditional.

> >
> > What I like about it is that it's still a people's food. You can buy it
> > in any chip shop. In my experience, poor food made from cheap
> > ingredients by peasants over a long period generally tastes pretty
> > good. Haggis and Cullen Skink are examples. (Also both very well
> > balanced nutritionally!)
> >
> > L
> >

>
> Lazarus -
>
> What's cullen skink?
>
> Peg


One of my native soups! Made with milk, smoked haddock, neeps and
tatties. Meal in a bowl.
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