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"Mordechai Housman" > wrote in message
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>> mordecai-
>> i like to compare and combine elements of recipes i like. with apple
>> cake , or pie, i like to mix apples-definitely granny smith with
>> cortland, gala, winesap empire, macintosh. (for ANY fruit or vegetable
>> "like the old days" find a farmers market in your town for LOCAL
>> produce, IN SEASON . most fruits in supermarkets have been picked
>> before ripe, frozen and shipped. they get mealy as they defrost. i
>> had officially sworn off peaches, until i saw a man with a roadside
>> stand selling fresh jersey peaches. i can only have them for a month
>> each summer, but i make a cake or pie every week.)
>> back to apples . following the instructions of rose levy's book (pie
>> and pastry bible), i try to peel and cut 6 apples about an hour in
>> advance, and mix with sugar, brown sugar (1/2 cup total), 1T lemon
>> juice, some cinnamon, nutmeg and 1/4 t salt. i think the salt draws
>> juice from the apples. let that sit and prepare crust or cake dough.
>> drain fruit. put liquid into a pan over medium heat. add 2 T butter.
>> keep swirling this until it thickens/carmelizes.meanwhile, mix 1T
>> cornstarch into apples (or arrange apple slices on cake batter, no
>> cornstarch . for cake, i scatter nuts over fruit).put fruit into crust.
>> pour thickened juices over fruit and bake
>> gret

>
> Thanks!
>
> As to where to buy the apples: at this time of the year ANY apples
> ANYWHERE are not going to be fresh-picked, are they?


What month is it -- you know what I mean -- is it in Down Under? Are they
fresher than ours?
No matter how they preserve the fresh apples from last September's, buying
U.S. apples 'so called' fresh in June is like wishing upon a star.
I suppose there are some that might say that June's are even fresher than
September's because of the way they preserve them - harrumph!
Dee Dee


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Dee Randall wrote:
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>>> mordecai-
>>> i like to compare and combine elements of recipes i like. with apple
>>> cake , or pie, i like to mix apples-definitely granny smith with
>>> cortland, gala, winesap empire, macintosh. (for ANY fruit or vegetable
>>> "like the old days" find a farmers market in your town for LOCAL
>>> produce, IN SEASON . most fruits in supermarkets have been picked
>>> before ripe, frozen and shipped. they get mealy as they defrost. i
>>> had officially sworn off peaches, until i saw a man with a roadside
>>> stand selling fresh jersey peaches. i can only have them for a month
>>> each summer, but i make a cake or pie every week.)
>>> back to apples . following the instructions of rose levy's book (pie
>>> and pastry bible), i try to peel and cut 6 apples about an hour in
>>> advance, and mix with sugar, brown sugar (1/2 cup total), 1T lemon
>>> juice, some cinnamon, nutmeg and 1/4 t salt. i think the salt draws
>>> juice from the apples. let that sit and prepare crust or cake dough.
>>> drain fruit. put liquid into a pan over medium heat. add 2 T butter.
>>> keep swirling this until it thickens/carmelizes.meanwhile, mix 1T
>>> cornstarch into apples (or arrange apple slices on cake batter, no
>>> cornstarch . for cake, i scatter nuts over fruit).put fruit into crust.
>>> pour thickened juices over fruit and bake
>>> gret
>>>

>> Thanks!
>>
>> As to where to buy the apples: at this time of the year ANY apples
>> ANYWHERE are not going to be fresh-picked, are they?
>>

>
> What month is it -- you know what I mean -- is it in Down Under? Are they
> fresher than ours?
>


I know what you mean. In the southern hemisphere the seasons are the
exact opposite to the northern hemisphere. So at the moment it's May,
which is late autumn and the apples are certainly fresh. And the pears
and the quinces. But the stone fruit's all long gone.

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> Dee Randall wrote:
>> "Mordechai Housman" > wrote in message
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>>>> mordecai-
>>>> i like to compare and combine elements of recipes i like. with
>>>> apple
>>>> cake , or pie, i like to mix apples-definitely granny smith with
>>>> cortland, gala, winesap empire, macintosh. (for ANY fruit or
>>>> vegetable
>>>> "like the old days" find a farmers market in your town for LOCAL
>>>> produce, IN SEASON . most fruits in supermarkets have been picked
>>>> before ripe, frozen and shipped. they get mealy as they defrost.
>>>> i
>>>> had officially sworn off peaches, until i saw a man with a
>>>> roadside
>>>> stand selling fresh jersey peaches. i can only have them for a
>>>> month
>>>> each summer, but i make a cake or pie every week.)
>>>> back to apples . following the instructions of rose levy's book
>>>> (pie
>>>> and pastry bible), i try to peel and cut 6 apples about an hour in
>>>> advance, and mix with sugar, brown sugar (1/2 cup total), 1T lemon
>>>> juice, some cinnamon, nutmeg and 1/4 t salt. i think the salt draws
>>>> juice from the apples. let that sit and prepare crust or cake
>>>> dough.
>>>> drain fruit. put liquid into a pan over medium heat. add 2 T
>>>> butter.
>>>> keep swirling this until it thickens/carmelizes.meanwhile, mix 1T
>>>> cornstarch into apples (or arrange apple slices on cake batter, no
>>>> cornstarch . for cake, i scatter nuts over fruit).put fruit into
>>>> crust.
>>>> pour thickened juices over fruit and bake
>>>> gret
>>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> As to where to buy the apples: at this time of the year ANY apples
>>> ANYWHERE are not going to be fresh-picked, are they?
>>>

>>
>> What month is it -- you know what I mean -- is it in Down Under? Are
>> they fresher than ours?
>>

>
> I know what you mean. In the southern hemisphere the seasons are the
> exact opposite to the northern hemisphere. So at the moment it's May,
> which is late autumn and the apples are certainly fresh. And the pears
> and the quinces. But the stone fruit's all long gone.


Stone fruit? I'm not familiar with that term. Sounds like it would apply
to peaches? What other fruit has a stone pit? (Forgive my ignorance -- I
was born a city slicker and have only recently fulfilled a life-long
dream and moved out to an almost-country-like area.)

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> Stone fruit? I'm not familiar with that term. Sounds like it would apply
> to peaches? What other fruit has a stone pit? (Forgive my ignorance -- I
> was born a city slicker and have only recently fulfilled a life-long
> dream and moved out to an almost-country-like area.)


Stone fruit is any fruit with a stone or large pit in middle; peaches,
plums, nectarines, cherries.



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> Mordechai Housman wrote:
>
>>
>> Stone fruit? I'm not familiar with that term. Sounds like it would
>> apply
>> to peaches? What other fruit has a stone pit? (Forgive my
>> ignorance -- I
>> was born a city slicker and have only recently fulfilled a life-long
>> dream and moved out to an almost-country-like area.)

>
> Stone fruit is any fruit with a stone or large pit in middle; peaches,
> plums, nectarines, cherries.


Ah, I forgot about those. Thanks!



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Mordechai Housman wrote:
> "Old Mother Ashby" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dee Randall wrote:
>>> "Mordechai Housman" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>>> "Grettie" > wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>> mordecai-
>>>>> i like to compare and combine elements of recipes i like. with apple
>>>>> cake , or pie, i like to mix apples-definitely granny smith with
>>>>> cortland, gala, winesap empire, macintosh. (for ANY fruit or
>>>>> vegetable
>>>>> "like the old days" find a farmers market in your town for LOCAL
>>>>> produce, IN SEASON . most fruits in supermarkets have been picked
>>>>> before ripe, frozen and shipped. they get mealy as they defrost. i
>>>>> had officially sworn off peaches, until i saw a man with a roadside
>>>>> stand selling fresh jersey peaches. i can only have them for a month
>>>>> each summer, but i make a cake or pie every week.)
>>>>> back to apples . following the instructions of rose levy's book (pie
>>>>> and pastry bible), i try to peel and cut 6 apples about an hour in
>>>>> advance, and mix with sugar, brown sugar (1/2 cup total), 1T lemon
>>>>> juice, some cinnamon, nutmeg and 1/4 t salt. i think the salt draws
>>>>> juice from the apples. let that sit and prepare crust or cake
>>>>> dough.
>>>>> drain fruit. put liquid into a pan over medium heat. add 2 T butter.
>>>>> keep swirling this until it thickens/carmelizes.meanwhile, mix 1T
>>>>> cornstarch into apples (or arrange apple slices on cake batter, no
>>>>> cornstarch . for cake, i scatter nuts over fruit).put fruit into
>>>>> crust.
>>>>> pour thickened juices over fruit and bake
>>>>> gret
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> As to where to buy the apples: at this time of the year ANY apples
>>>> ANYWHERE are not going to be fresh-picked, are they?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What month is it -- you know what I mean -- is it in Down Under? Are
>>> they fresher than ours?
>>>

>>
>> I know what you mean. In the southern hemisphere the seasons are the
>> exact opposite to the northern hemisphere. So at the moment it's May,
>> which is late autumn and the apples are certainly fresh. And the
>> pears and the quinces. But the stone fruit's all long gone.

>
> Stone fruit? I'm not familiar with that term. Sounds like it would
> apply to peaches? What other fruit has a stone pit? (Forgive my
> ignorance -- I was born a city slicker and have only recently
> fulfilled a life-long dream and moved out to an almost-country-like
> area.)

You are guessing correctly. Stone fruit is peaches, nectarines, apricots
and the like, which ripen in the summer.

I dunno what being a city slicker has to do with all this. Are you
implying that I'm some sort of country bumpkin? :-)

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> Mordechai Housman wrote:
>> "Old Mother Ashby" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Dee Randall wrote:
>>>> "Mordechai Housman" > wrote in message
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>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>> mordecai-
>>>>>> i like to compare and combine elements of recipes i like. with
>>>>>> apple
>>>>>> cake , or pie, i like to mix apples-definitely granny smith with
>>>>>> cortland, gala, winesap empire, macintosh. (for ANY fruit or
>>>>>> vegetable
>>>>>> "like the old days" find a farmers market in your town for LOCAL
>>>>>> produce, IN SEASON . most fruits in supermarkets have been picked
>>>>>> before ripe, frozen and shipped. they get mealy as they
>>>>>> defrost. i
>>>>>> had officially sworn off peaches, until i saw a man with a
>>>>>> roadside
>>>>>> stand selling fresh jersey peaches. i can only have them for a
>>>>>> month
>>>>>> each summer, but i make a cake or pie every week.)
>>>>>> back to apples . following the instructions of rose levy's book
>>>>>> (pie
>>>>>> and pastry bible), i try to peel and cut 6 apples about an hour
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> advance, and mix with sugar, brown sugar (1/2 cup total), 1T
>>>>>> lemon
>>>>>> juice, some cinnamon, nutmeg and 1/4 t salt. i think the salt
>>>>>> draws
>>>>>> juice from the apples. let that sit and prepare crust or cake
>>>>>> dough.
>>>>>> drain fruit. put liquid into a pan over medium heat. add 2 T
>>>>>> butter.
>>>>>> keep swirling this until it thickens/carmelizes.meanwhile, mix 1T
>>>>>> cornstarch into apples (or arrange apple slices on cake batter,
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> cornstarch . for cake, i scatter nuts over fruit).put fruit into
>>>>>> crust.
>>>>>> pour thickened juices over fruit and bake
>>>>>> gret
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> As to where to buy the apples: at this time of the year ANY apples
>>>>> ANYWHERE are not going to be fresh-picked, are they?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What month is it -- you know what I mean -- is it in Down Under?
>>>> Are they fresher than ours?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I know what you mean. In the southern hemisphere the seasons are the
>>> exact opposite to the northern hemisphere. So at the moment it's
>>> May, which is late autumn and the apples are certainly fresh. And
>>> the pears and the quinces. But the stone fruit's all long gone.

>>
>> Stone fruit? I'm not familiar with that term. Sounds like it would
>> apply to peaches? What other fruit has a stone pit? (Forgive my
>> ignorance -- I was born a city slicker and have only recently
>> fulfilled a life-long dream and moved out to an almost-country-like
>> area.)

> You are guessing correctly. Stone fruit is peaches, nectarines,
> apricots and the like, which ripen in the summer.
>
> I dunno what being a city slicker has to do with all this. Are you
> implying that I'm some sort of country bumpkin? :-)


No, I mean that often city people are narrowly focused on their own
lives, and have no idea of anything else. I actually once met a guy
from, I think, Philadelphia, who had never seen a head of garlic. He saw
me holding one, and was fascinated by it, and he asked me to let him see
it.

Now, until two years ago, I also lived in the city. But I had visited
the grocery store, for goodness sakes! I am still not familiar with
every type of produce one can find in the stores, but I have to pity the
guy who does not know what a head of garlic looks like. I mean, that's
so basic. It's not like it's some exotic South-American root, or
something.

I'm not much of a nectarine eater, though I like some types of plums,
and I like apricots a little, and I had forgotten that those fruits have
stone pits. Being form the city, I would see fruits only if I actually
bought them, or were near them in some large produce store that also
sold those fruits. Most of the time nectarines, plums and apricots are
not found in those stores. Peaches are more likely to be found there.

People from the country, on the other hand, or so I imagine hopefully,
are more likely to see the fruits on trees and in local stores. Where I
now live, there are more stores with such fruits and fruit products than
I was used to seeing in the "big city."

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>
> I'm not much of a nectarine eater, though I like some types of plums, and
> I like apricots a little, and I had forgotten that those fruits have stone
> pits. Being form the city, I would see fruits only if I actually bought
> them, or were near them in some large produce store that also sold those
> fruits. Most of the time nectarines, plums and apricots are not found in
> those stores. Peaches are more likely to be found there.
>
> People from the country, on the other hand, or so I imagine hopefully, are
> more likely to see the fruits on trees and in local stores. Where I now
> live, there are more stores with such fruits and fruit products than I was
> used to seeing in the "big city."
>
> Mordechai



I have a surprise for you, Mordechai. Hardly anyone out here in the sticks
knows what any fruit is except an apple, and that is mainly because
Winchester, VA is the apple city and they have an apple festival and etc.
If you gave them a test on whether a fruit was a nectarine, plum or apricot
or peach, they may know the peach.
There are individual farms around that sell produce in season, but they are
definitely limited in what they grow.
I do rely on buying produce that is not strictly potatoes, carrots, and
onions in another larger city where there is an ethnic population.
Dee Dee
PS Mordechai is a first-name that is in my family in the late 1700's and
early 1800's. You don't hear it much anymore; if at all.



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>
>>
>> I'm not much of a nectarine eater, though I like some types of plums,
>> and I like apricots a little, and I had forgotten that those fruits
>> have stone pits. Being form the city, I would see fruits only if I
>> actually bought them, or were near them in some large produce store
>> that also sold those fruits. Most of the time nectarines, plums and
>> apricots are not found in those stores. Peaches are more likely to be
>> found there.
>>
>> People from the country, on the other hand, or so I imagine
>> hopefully, are more likely to see the fruits on trees and in local
>> stores. Where I now live, there are more stores with such fruits and
>> fruit products than I was used to seeing in the "big city."
>>
>> Mordechai

>
>
> I have a surprise for you, Mordechai. Hardly anyone out here in the
> sticks knows what any fruit is except an apple, and that is mainly
> because Winchester, VA is the apple city and they have an apple
> festival and etc.
> If you gave them a test on whether a fruit was a nectarine, plum or
> apricot or peach, they may know the peach.
> There are individual farms around that sell produce in season, but
> they are definitely limited in what they grow.
> I do rely on buying produce that is not strictly potatoes, carrots,
> and onions in another larger city where there is an ethnic population.
> Dee Dee


Interesting. I don't have quite that same experience here, and where
I live is not truly country (at least not anymore -- but then again, you
can say that about ANY settled area), and I know only one farmer
personally -- and he lives here in Rockland County but has his farm in
upstate New York (right near the famous Woodstock, as it happens).

The stores here vary. The marge supermarket-type stores have the same
amount of variety that you would find in the average large supermarket
in New York City. Most will not have all that variety, except for
whatever exotic fruit or vegetable is in vogue at the moment.

But the smaller stores here have all sorts of brands, types, and even
fruits that I have never heard of. It can be quite fascinating
sometimes. But of course, it isn't alwayseasy finding these stores.
However, they are often listed on tourist maps of the area, and on the
internet.

> PS Mordechai is a first-name that is in my family in the late 1700's
> and early 1800's. You don't hear it much anymore; if at all.


I'm actually very into names, their meanings, their origins, and who
used them, and so forth.

I don't know your background, but I'm Orthodox-Jewish. Mordechai is a
common name among us, though not the most widely found. I know only one
Orthodox-Jewish Dee Dee, as far as I can recall, a niece of my sister's.
And that is actually her nickname, not her given name.

I have found though, that in the past decade or so, the name Mordecai
(without the h in the middle) has been used for several comic book
characters, though all of them evil! Or so I am told. The first known
usage of the name Mordechai (or Mordecai, in the English versions), as
you may know, was for a righteous person, in the Book of Esther. It's
from Aramaic, and means "fine myrrh." It is the Aramaic translation of a
phrase in the Jewish Bible. Fine myrrh was one of the eleven types of
incense that were used in the Tabernacle and the Holy Temple.

Might I ask what your background is, and that of your family in the 17
and 18 hundreds? I'm fascinated by this sort of historic information.
Where did they live?

Mordechai

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>> Mordechai Housman wrote:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mordecai-
>>>>>>> i like to compare and combine elements of recipes i like. with
>>>>>>> apple
>>>>>>> cake , or pie, i like to mix apples-definitely granny smith with
>>>>>>> cortland, gala, winesap empire, macintosh. (for ANY fruit or
>>>>>>> vegetable
>>>>>>> "like the old days" find a farmers market in your town for LOCAL
>>>>>>> produce, IN SEASON . most fruits in supermarkets have been picked
>>>>>>> before ripe, frozen and shipped. they get mealy as they
>>>>>>> defrost. i
>>>>>>> had officially sworn off peaches, until i saw a man with a
>>>>>>> roadside
>>>>>>> stand selling fresh jersey peaches. i can only have them for a
>>>>>>> month
>>>>>>> each summer, but i make a cake or pie every week.)
>>>>>>> back to apples . following the instructions of rose levy's book
>>>>>>> (pie
>>>>>>> and pastry bible), i try to peel and cut 6 apples about an hour in
>>>>>>> advance, and mix with sugar, brown sugar (1/2 cup total), 1T lemon
>>>>>>> juice, some cinnamon, nutmeg and 1/4 t salt. i think the salt draws
>>>>>>> juice from the apples. let that sit and prepare crust or cake
>>>>>>> dough.
>>>>>>> drain fruit. put liquid into a pan over medium heat. add 2 T
>>>>>>> butter.
>>>>>>> keep swirling this until it thickens/carmelizes.meanwhile, mix 1T
>>>>>>> cornstarch into apples (or arrange apple slices on cake batter, no
>>>>>>> cornstarch . for cake, i scatter nuts over fruit).put fruit into
>>>>>>> crust.
>>>>>>> pour thickened juices over fruit and bake
>>>>>>> gret
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As to where to buy the apples: at this time of the year ANY
>>>>>> apples ANYWHERE are not going to be fresh-picked, are they?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What month is it -- you know what I mean -- is it in Down Under?
>>>>> Are they fresher than ours?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know what you mean. In the southern hemisphere the seasons are
>>>> the exact opposite to the northern hemisphere. So at the moment
>>>> it's May, which is late autumn and the apples are certainly fresh.
>>>> And the pears and the quinces. But the stone fruit's all long gone.
>>>
>>> Stone fruit? I'm not familiar with that term. Sounds like it would
>>> apply to peaches? What other fruit has a stone pit? (Forgive my
>>> ignorance -- I was born a city slicker and have only recently
>>> fulfilled a life-long dream and moved out to an almost-country-like
>>> area.)

>> You are guessing correctly. Stone fruit is peaches, nectarines,
>> apricots and the like, which ripen in the summer.
>>
>> I dunno what being a city slicker has to do with all this. Are you
>> implying that I'm some sort of country bumpkin? :-)

>
>
> I'm not much of a nectarine eater, though I like some types of plums,
> and I like apricots a little, and I had forgotten that those fruits
> have stone pits. Being form the city, I would see fruits only if I
> actually bought them, or were near them in some large produce store
> that also sold those fruits. Most of the time nectarines, plums and
> apricots are not found in those stores. Peaches are more likely to be
> found there.

I dunno, what happened to America, the land of plenty? I can only repeat
my sentiments in another post that I appreciate that I am truly
fortunate to live in a big city where you can easily buy just about
anything. But I would expect a comprehensive range of produce in any
Australian city, and at least a reasonable range in a township big
enough for a supermarket. Only in the extreme outback where transport
costs are prohibitive would I understand the sort of deprivation you
seem to have been used to.
>
> People from the country, on the other hand, or so I imagine hopefully,
> are more likely to see the fruits on trees and in local stores. Where
> I now live, there are more stores with such fruits and fruit products
> than I was used to seeing in the "big city."

I really don't see why people in the country would be more likely to see
the fruit on trees unless they lived in an orchard area. If you live in
the Mallee, for example, it's nothing but wheat and rapeseed for as far
as the eye can see.

Our next door neighbours have a nectarine tree in the front yard,
there's a place around the corner with a huge and prolific lemon tree in
the back yard. We've got a lemon tree in a tub, and a bay tree, but our
back yard is too tiny for much else.

Christine



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[Aside: DID YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE? I SNIPPED ALL THAT PRECEDING CRAP
WHICH DOESN'T PERTAIN TO THIS POST! *YOU* SHOULD DO THAT TOO!]

> I dunno, what happened to America, the land of plenty? I can only repeat
> my sentiments in another post that I appreciate that I am truly fortunate
> to live in a big city where you can easily buy just about anything. But I
> would expect a comprehensive range of produce in any Australian city, and
> at least a reasonable range in a township big enough for a supermarket.
> Only in the extreme outback where transport costs are prohibitive would I
> understand the sort of deprivation you seem to have been used to.


Has Mordecai said where he lives? If he has, I don't remember seeing it. I
live in a fairly small town, but my local grocery store carries all manner
of fruits and vegetables.

Maybe he lives in an isolated community: Small towns pepper the USA; some of
them are a hundred miles or more from any major city. Grocery stores there
are usually small, and don't have the space to carry much in the way of
fresh fruits or vegetables.

(http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...denio&state=nv gives one example.)

If he lives near a major city (which is what I thought, based on his saying
he lives in an "almost-country-like area"), then he's just not looking in
the right places for produce. Or maybe he simply doesn't want to go into
town for groceries.


Bob


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> Where I
> now live, there are more stores with such fruits and fruit products

than
> I was used to seeing in the "big city."
>
> Mordechai
>


Not necessarily true. Usually this kinda thing happens when one is too
tied up with one thing, too committed... to say a career, a longterm ill
family member...that sort of thing. Or never leaving a fixed area.

Sure if I shopped in the same small local corner stores, in the same area
of town every time. It might take some time befoe I saw something new.
Smaller stores have less chance to try new things...due to less shelf
space, less knowledge of what's out there, and needing to make
happy/ensure their customers. Small stores have to go with what works or
they risk going out of business. Plus their suppliers don't necessarily
try to sell them newer types of products. For example a local corner
kosher grocery store wouldn't find necessary to carry a wide range of
Chinese, Mexican or Italian foodstuffs (even if the products met the
dietary laws).

Cities are where the most people are (concentrated population base), so
they see the "new" things first. New Products are usually tried/tested
out in larger population centers first.

In my opinion apple pie without spices is not worth making. Might as well
just make apple sauce, heck even the blandess apple sauce has spices.

Seems to me you need to expand your horizons or get a hobby or do
something rash like shop across town. Make youself a vow to try at least
one new thing (to you) a week...whether it be a food style/product,
movie, tying your shoes or a new route to work...Getting stuck in a rutt
can affect your intelligence, mood and other aspects of your life and
personality, and those of your children as well. Sure you'll have some
diasters but the pleasant surprises should make that well worth while.

But then again what do I know...I'm just a Blue Collar worker. And sure
it's easy to say these things...but finding the time and the energy is
yet another thing.



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> But then again what do I know...I'm just a Blue Collar worker. And sure
> it's easy to say these things...but finding the time and the energy is
> yet another thing.



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> Mordechai Housman wrote on 27 May 2006 in rec.food.cooking
>
>> Where I
>> now live, there are more stores with such fruits and fruit products

> than
>> I was used to seeing in the "big city."
>>
>> Mordechai
>>

>
> Not necessarily true. Usually this kinda thing happens when one is too
> tied up with one thing, too committed... to say a career, a longterm
> ill
> family member...that sort of thing. Or never leaving a fixed area.
>
> Sure if I shopped in the same small local corner stores, in the same
> area
> of town every time. It might take some time befoe I saw something new.
> Smaller stores have less chance to try new things...due to less shelf
> space, less knowledge of what's out there, and needing to make
> happy/ensure their customers. Small stores have to go with what works
> or
> they risk going out of business. Plus their suppliers don't
> necessarily
> try to sell them newer types of products. For example a local corner
> kosher grocery store wouldn't find necessary to carry a wide range of
> Chinese, Mexican or Italian foodstuffs (even if the products met the
> dietary laws).
>
> Cities are where the most people are (concentrated population base),
> so
> they see the "new" things first. New Products are usually tried/tested
> out in larger population centers first.
>
> In my opinion apple pie without spices is not worth making. Might as
> well
> just make apple sauce, heck even the blandess apple sauce has spices.
>
> Seems to me you need to expand your horizons or get a hobby or do
> something rash like shop across town. Make youself a vow to try at
> least
> one new thing (to you) a week...whether it be a food style/product,
> movie, tying your shoes or a new route to work...Getting stuck in a
> rutt
> can affect your intelligence, mood and other aspects of your life and
> personality, and those of your children as well. Sure you'll have some
> diasters but the pleasant surprises should make that well worth while.
>
> But then again what do I know...I'm just a Blue Collar worker. And
> sure
> it's easy to say these things...but finding the time and the energy is
> yet another thing.


I'm not anything close to rich myself. I'm not a highly paid skilled
worker or anything like that. But we all enjoy having a good time.

And I agree; now that the warmer weather is here, I have been trying
expand my horizons a bit, going out for different things more,
bicycling, though it a great deal for me to do so, walking a bit,
talking with friends and acquaintances now and then, things like that. I
hope maybe to go a little sightseeing around here, including finding
more exotic stores to shop in, if I can afford to buy anything there.

As it happens, my hobbies are writing and cooking, and I'm tentatively
expanding into baking. Which is why I am here. And I can't afford to do
much, but I'm trying anyway.

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