I was going through my dad's liquor cabinet and I found a bottle of
crown royal from 1968!!! He thinks it was a gift at his first
wedding... but 2 wives, 4 kids, and about 150 pounds later.... the seal
is still in tact... the box is just a little dusty. Does anyone know
how much this might be worth or where I can find out?

Thanks in advance.
--Kevin

wrote:
> I was going through my dad's liquor cabinet and I found a bottle of
> crown royal from 1968!!! He thinks it was a gift at his first
> wedding... but 2 wives, 4 kids, and about 150 pounds later.... the seal
> is still in tact... the box is just a little dusty. Does anyone know
> how much this might be worth or where I can find out?

It's worth exactly the same as a bottle at your local liqour store.

http://www.missionliquor.com/Store/Q...07A1B0000002B1

"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote in message
6.121...
> "Sheldon" >
> oups.com:
>
>>
>> wrote:
>>> I was going through my dad's liquor cabinet and I found a bottle of
>>> crown royal from 1968!!! He thinks it was a gift at his first
>>> wedding... but 2 wives, 4 kids, and about 150 pounds later.... the
>>> seal is still in tact... the box is just a little dusty. Does anyone
>>> know how much this might be worth or where I can find out?
>>
>> It's worth exactly the same as a bottle at your local liqour store.
>>
>> http://www.missionliquor.com/Store/Q...009&DEPT=00000
>> 2&CAT=000022&BACK=A0007A1B0000002B1
>
> Unless you can convince someone on eBay to buy it for more.
>
> Michael
>
> --
> "The first zucchini I ever saw I killed it with a hoe."
> John Gould, Monstrous Depravity, 1963

Alcohol sales are *very* restricted on eBay. Unless the Crown Royal is in
some kind of collectible decanter, it can't be sold on eBay. Here's their
policy, cut and pasted from
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/alcohol.html:

Alcohol Policy

eBay does not permit the sale of alcoholic beverages on its U. S. website,
except for certain pre-approved sales of wine (see Additional Information)
and certain sales of collectible containers. Further, non-U.S. members may
not conduct alcohol sales with any eBay member residing in the United
States.

Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions, including
Listing cancellation
Limits on account privileges
Account suspension
Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings
Loss of PowerSeller status

I'd open the Crown Royal and enjoy it! :-)

Karen

"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote

> Unless you can convince someone on eBay to buy it for more.

Idle curiosity, being that liquor laws are so strict most places in the
states,
I wonder if someone can even legally sell alcohol anywhere, without a
license.

nancy

"Karen" > wrote

> Alcohol sales are *very* restricted on eBay. Unless the Crown Royal is in
> some kind of collectible decanter, it can't be sold on eBay.

(laugh!) Never mind.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
> "Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote
>
> > Unless you can convince someone on eBay to buy it for more.
>
> Idle curiosity, being that liquor laws are so strict most places in the
> states,
> I wonder if someone can even legally sell alcohol anywhere, without a
> license.

I believe the head of each household in the US is permitted to legally
produce up to 200 gallons of spirits in total for personal use
(includes beer, wine, liqour). I don't believe selling is permitted,
but who's going to know if you sell hooch to your kith n' kin.

Sheldon Still

Sheldon wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
> > "Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote
> >
> > > Unless you can convince someone on eBay to buy it for more.
> >
> > Idle curiosity, being that liquor laws are so strict most places in the
> > states,
> > I wonder if someone can even legally sell alcohol anywhere, without a
> > license.
>
> I believe the head of each household in the US is permitted to legally
> produce up to 200 gallons of spirits in total for personal use
> (includes beer, wine, liqour). I don't believe selling is permitted,
> but who's going to know if you sell hooch to your kith n' kin.
>
> Sheldon Still

Oops, that's 200 gallons per year, folks.. not each day! hehe

Sheldon wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > Nancy Young wrote:
> > > "Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote
> > >
> > > > Unless you can convince someone on eBay to buy it for more.
> > >
> > > Idle curiosity, being that liquor laws are so strict most places in the
> > > states,
> > > I wonder if someone can even legally sell alcohol anywhere, without a
> > > license.
> >
> > I believe the head of each household in the US is permitted to legally
> > produce up to 200 gallons of spirits in total for personal use
> > (includes beer, wine, liqour). I don't believe selling is permitted,
> > but who's going to know if you sell hooch to your kith n' kin.
> >
> > Sheldon Still
>
> Oops, that's 200 gallons per year, folks.. not each day! hehe

Okay, my bad... better info:
http://www.atf.treas.gov/alcohol/inf...alcohol.htm#g1

Sheldon Sot

"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" >

>> "Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote
>>
>>> Unless you can convince someone on eBay to buy it for more.
>>
>> Idle curiosity, being that liquor laws are so strict most places in the
>> states,
>> I wonder if someone can even legally sell alcohol anywhere, without a
>> license.

> I'm late in responding but I think that was answered by someone else's
> post. I'm pretty sure it was Karen.

Yes, we posted at the very same time.

nancy

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

> And yet they will allow an alleged diety(sp) on a piece of ironed toast to
> be sold. Unfrigging believeable. I'd drink the stuff too


After a fashion, this makes sense. You don't need a liquor license to
sell oddly formed toast.


If a customer gets a corked bottle of wine, they can return it for
another bottle or a refund. We don't get into arguments about whether
it was really corked. If a customer just happens to buy too much or
realizes that they made a mistake and that they don't like the wine
afterall, no deal. They can't return a bottle in resaleable form
because they don't have a liquor license. We don't have a big problem
with it yet, but I'm waiting for customers to learn that if they want to
return wine they have to open it first and complain unjustly.


--Lia

In article .com>,
says...
> I was going through my dad's liquor cabinet and I found a bottle of
> crown royal from 1968!!! He thinks it was a gift at his first
> wedding... but 2 wives, 4 kids, and about 150 pounds later.... the seal
> is still in tact... the box is just a little dusty. Does anyone know
> how much this might be worth or where I can find out?
>
>

Except as a curiosity, not much. Whiskey does not continue to age once
in the bottle. It's probably fine to drink, though.

--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

Peter A wrote:
> In article .com>,
> says...
> > I was going through my dad's liquor cabinet and I found a bottle of
> > crown royal from 1968!!! He thinks it was a gift at his first
> > wedding... but 2 wives, 4 kids, and about 150 pounds later.... the seal
> > is still in tact... the box is just a little dusty. Does anyone know
> > how much this might be worth or where I can find out?
> >
> >
>
> Except as a curiosity, not much. Whiskey does not continue to age once
> in the bottle. It's probably fine to drink, though.

It doesn't continue to "age" in the sense of getting flavor from its
barrel, but there are chemical reactions still occurring in there,
though the chance that they'll change the flavor is small (something
drastic would have to happen like exposure to oxygen or severe
heating).

However, there is a market for as-bottled vintages of whiskey,
especially single-malt scotches, but not exclusively, because blends
can also be slightly different from year to year (even though the point
of blending is to remove those inconsistencies, blends are tasted by
people, and people are only slightly more consistent than barley and
oak).

Crown Royal might be high-end enough to fit into that market.

Super-expensive for what is essentially a chance to taste a "different"
whiskey, when there are already hundreds of different whiskeys, but the
people who've grown bored of all the usual suspects and shire-based
puddlings get a bit wonky over this stuff, which leads to the ability
to charge huge multiples of the bottled price for a chance to sip and
hoard a rarity.

Your 1968 Crown Royal could just be unique.

--Blair
"Never touch the stuff."

Peter A wrote:
> In article .com>,
> says...
>> I was going through my dad's liquor cabinet and I found a bottle of
>> crown royal from 1968!
>
> Except as a curiosity, not much. Whiskey does not continue to age once
> in the bottle. It's probably fine to drink, though.

Just goes to show, just because something is "old" (heheh) doesn't mean it's
worth more.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> Peter A wrote:
> >> > says...
> >> I was going through my dad's liquor cabinet and I found a bottle of
> >> crown royal from 1968!
> >
> > Except as a curiosity, not much. Whiskey does not continue to age once
> > in the bottle. It's probably fine to drink, though.
>
> Just goes to show, just because something is "old" (heheh) doesn't mean it's
> worth more.
>
> Jill

I just checked my liquor supply, booze bottle labels don't typically
contain a bottling date, not unless there is something unique like it's
a collector's bottle... one would be hard pressed to prove the date of
bottling.

Even Seagram can only give an approximate date (Circa) for a particular
bottle of Crown Royal, apparently bottle molds and labeling changed
periodically but individual runs spanned many years:
http://www.city.waterloo.on.ca/Seagr...rownroyal.html

I'm wondering how the OP knows his bottle is from 1968, did his father
actually mark the date on the bottle, because I do that, but that's
just date of purchase.

Sheldon

Sheldon wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Peter A wrote:
>>>>> says...
>>>> I was going through my dad's liquor cabinet and I found a bottle of
>>>> crown royal from 1968!
>>> Except as a curiosity, not much. Whiskey does not continue to age once
>>> in the bottle. It's probably fine to drink, though.
>> Just goes to show, just because something is "old" (heheh) doesn't mean it's
>> worth more.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I just checked my liquor supply, booze bottle labels don't typically
> contain a bottling date, not unless there is something unique like it's
> a collector's bottle... one would be hard pressed to prove the date of
> bottling.
>
> Even Seagram can only give an approximate date (Circa) for a particular
> bottle of Crown Royal, apparently bottle molds and labeling changed
> periodically but individual runs spanned many years:
> http://www.city.waterloo.on.ca/Seagr...rownroyal.html
>
> I'm wondering how the OP knows his bottle is from 1968, did his father
> actually mark the date on the bottle, because I do that, but that's
> just date of purchase.
>
> Sheldon
>


Maybe from the tax stamp.

Bob

Sheldon wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Peter A wrote:
>>>>> says...
>>>> I was going through my dad's liquor cabinet and I found a bottle of
>>>> crown royal from 1968!
>>>
>>> Except as a curiosity, not much. Whiskey does not continue to age
>>> once
>>> in the bottle. It's probably fine to drink, though.
>>
>> Just goes to show, just because something is "old" (heheh) doesn't
>> mean it's worth more.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I just checked my liquor supply, booze bottle labels don't typically
> contain a bottling date, not unless there is something unique like
> it's
> a collector's bottle... one would be hard pressed to prove the date of
> bottling.
>
> Even Seagram can only give an approximate date (Circa) for a
> particular
> bottle of Crown Royal, apparently bottle molds and labeling changed
> periodically but individual runs spanned many years:
>
http://www.city.waterloo.on.ca/Seagr...rownroyal.html
>
> I'm wondering how the OP knows his bottle is from 1968, did his father
> actually mark the date on the bottle, because I do that, but that's
> just date of purchase.
>
> Sheldon

Maybe because his dad remembers it as a wedding gift from 1968? Doesn't
prove when it was bottled much less when it was distilled, though.

Jill

Sheldon wrote:
:: jmcquown wrote:
::: Peter A wrote:
:::::: says...
::::: I was going through my dad's liquor cabinet and I found a bottle
of
::::: crown royal from 1968!
::::
:::: Except as a curiosity, not much. Whiskey does not continue to age
once
:::: in the bottle. It's probably fine to drink, though.
:::
::: Just goes to show, just because something is "old" (heheh) doesn't
mean it's
::: worth more.
:::
::: Jill
::
:: I just checked my liquor supply, booze bottle labels don't
typically
:: contain a bottling date, not unless there is something unique like
it's
:: a collector's bottle... one would be hard pressed to prove the date
of
:: bottling.
::
:: Even Seagram can only give an approximate date (Circa) for a
particular
:: bottle of Crown Royal, apparently bottle molds and labeling changed
:: periodically but individual runs spanned many years:
::
http://www.city.waterloo.on.ca/Seagr...rownroyal.html
::
:: I'm wondering how the OP knows his bottle is from 1968, did his
father
:: actually mark the date on the bottle, because I do that, but that's
:: just date of purchase.
::
:: Sheldon

Tax stamp on the bottle?

BOB


--
Raw Meat Should NOT Have An Ingredients List

zxcvbob wrote:
::
::
:: Maybe from the tax stamp.
::
:: Bob

Oh...you already said that.
;-)

BOB


--
Raw Meat Should NOT Have An Ingredients List

On 14 May 2006 09:32:22 -0700, Blair P. Houghton wrote:

> Your 1968 Crown Royal could just be unique.

I opened a bottle of 1962 Segrams VO a few weeks ago and it wasn't
appreciably different from any other year of VO.
--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig.

On Sun, 14 May 2006 12:41:37 -0700, sf wrote:

> On 14 May 2006 09:32:22 -0700, Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>
> > Your 1968 Crown Royal could just be unique.
>
> I opened a bottle of 1962 Segrams VO a few weeks ago and it wasn't
> appreciably different from any other year of VO.

OK, I take it back. Son just tasted it and declares it smooth. I'm a
heathen.
--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig.

Crown Royal used to be sold in a royal blue bag and the bottle was capped
with a lead stopper. In the last few years, the lead stooper has been
replaced with a plastic version as there is now a lot more awareness of the
dangers of ingesting lead. Check the top to see if lead was used way back in
68. Lead is probably soluble in booze so there is potential for a lot of
lead to leach into the booze over time. Crown Royal used to be a premium
liquor and always sold at a premium price. (At least in Canada) It seems to
have dropped in price in the last few years. Tasted like the regular speedy
rotgut to me. I will be glad to taste test it for you.

Farmer John

fudge wrote:

> Crown Royal used to be sold in a royal blue bag and the bottle was capped
> with a lead stopper. In the last few years, the lead stooper has been
> replaced with a plastic version as there is now a lot more awareness of the
> dangers of ingesting lead. Check the top to see if lead was used way back in
> 68. Lead is probably soluble in booze so there is potential for a lot of
> lead to leach into the booze over time. Crown Royal used to be a premium
> liquor and always sold at a premium price. (At least in Canada) It seems to
> have dropped in price in the last few years. Tasted like the regular speedy
> rotgut to me. I will be glad to taste test it for you.
>

I think you are right about it not selling for as much more than lesser <?>
brands of Rye. It's a little better than most Rye whisky but if I am paying
premium price it won't be for Rye. I love Scotch and Irish, but I am not crazy
about Rye or Bourbon, but Rye does make an excellent Manhattan.

think you are right about it not selling for as much more than lesser <?>
brands of Rye. It's a little better than most Rye whisky but if I am paying
premium price it won't be for Rye. I love Scotch and Irish, but I am not
crazy
about Rye or Bourbon, but Rye does make an excellent Manhattan

I am pretty sure Crown Royal is not a rye whisky but a corn whisky. Check
the label and the word rye or corn is not mentioned. Most Canadain whisky is
made from corn. There are only a few rye whiskys I am aware of and one is
Alberta Springs. Actual malted rye grain is not used as it attracts
undesirable molds/contaminants during production however ground up rye grain
may be used as an adjunct in the mashing process.

On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:22:46 -0400, fudge wrote:

> think you are right about it not selling for as much more than lesser <?>
> brands of Rye. It's a little better than most Rye whisky but if I am paying
> premium price it won't be for Rye. I love Scotch and Irish, but I am not
> crazy
> about Rye or Bourbon, but Rye does make an excellent Manhattan
>
> I am pretty sure Crown Royal is not a rye whisky but a corn whisky. Check
> the label and the word rye or corn is not mentioned. Most Canadain whisky is
> made from corn. There are only a few rye whiskys I am aware of and one is
> Alberta Springs. Actual malted rye grain is not used as it attracts
> undesirable molds/contaminants during production however ground up rye grain
> may be used as an adjunct in the mashing process.
>

I don't think I've ever tasted Rye or even noticed it on the shelf,
but apparently a lot of well known US bourbon brands make Rye... not
the least of which is Wild Turkey and Rye is in big letters on the
label, so you know which one you have.

Taken from the Wild Turkey FAQ:

The primary grain used both in Bourbon and Tennessee whiskies is corn
(at least 51%) which imparts a far richer and sweeter flavor to the
final spirit than, for example the barley used in making Scotch
whisky. Unlike Bourbon, Tennessee whiskey is then filtered through a
bed of sugar maple charcoals. Straight Rye Whiskeys in turn are made
of 51% rye.

Canadian whiskies are made from cereal grains corn, wheat, rye and
barley malt with no one grain accounting for more than 50% in the
formula and are distilled twice using column stills. They are also
distilled at a higher proof than American whiskeys. They are typically
delicate in flavor and light bodied.

--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig.

On Sun, 14 May 2006 12:57:44 GMT, "Karen" >
wrote:

>
>"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote in message
86.121...
>> "Sheldon" >
>> oups.com:
>>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I was going through my dad's liquor cabinet and I found a bottle of
>>>> crown royal from 1968!!! He thinks it was a gift at his first
>>>> wedding... but 2 wives, 4 kids, and about 150 pounds later.... the
>>>> seal is still in tact... the box is just a little dusty. Does anyone
>>>> know how much this might be worth or where I can find out?
>>>
>>> It's worth exactly the same as a bottle at your local liqour store.
>>>
>>> http://www.missionliquor.com/Store/Q...009&DEPT=00000
>>> 2&CAT=000022&BACK=A0007A1B0000002B1
>>
>> Unless you can convince someone on eBay to buy it for more.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> --
>> "The first zucchini I ever saw I killed it with a hoe."
>> John Gould, Monstrous Depravity, 1963
>
>Alcohol sales are *very* restricted on eBay. Unless the Crown Royal is in
>some kind of collectible decanter, it can't be sold on eBay. Here's their
>policy, cut and pasted from
>http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/alcohol.html:
>
>Alcohol Policy
>
>eBay does not permit the sale of alcoholic beverages on its U. S. website,
>except for certain pre-approved sales of wine (see Additional Information)
>and certain sales of collectible containers. Further, non-U.S. members may
>not conduct alcohol sales with any eBay member residing in the United
>States.
>
>Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions, including
>Listing cancellation
>Limits on account privileges
>Account suspension
>Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings
>Loss of PowerSeller status
>
>I'd open the Crown Royal and enjoy it! :-)
>
>Karen
>
>

Yeah, but you can give it away for free on Ebay and charge $99.99
shipping and handling. Even those that actually sell stuff on ebay
make most their money on S+H.

I was recently searching for a part for an antique car, and google
took me to that slease ball Ebay, not that I would buy from the
crooks, but the part was listed for $.99 and the S+H was $149.00
The part weighs about the same as a average can of tuna, and is not
much bigger. A local salvage yard found me the part at another
salvage yard, for $60 plus $8.50 shipping.

projectile vomit chick wrote:
> On 14 May 2006 05:07:16 -0700, in rec.food.cooking,
> hit the crackpipe and declared:
> >I was going through my dad's liquor cabinet and I found a bottle of
> >crown royal from 1968!!! He thinks it was a gift at his first
> >wedding... but 2 wives, 4 kids, and about 150 pounds later.... the seal
> >is still in tact... the box is just a little dusty. Does anyone know
> >how much this might be worth or where I can find out?
>
> I've got some old bottles of Coca-Cola from the 1970's....let's get
> ripped, vintage style!

I still have my wallet from high school with that BMOC circle. hehe

Sheldon

sf wrote:
> fudge wrote:
>
> > I am pretty sure Crown Royal is not a rye whisky but a corn whisky.

Well, you're wrong... Crown Royal is definitely made from rye... you
missed the link at my previous post:
http://www.city.waterloo.on.ca/Seagr...rownroyal.html

> I don't think I've ever tasted Rye or even noticed it on the shelf,

Have you been asleep all your life?

I can't believe you've not seen Canadian Club... and one of the most
popular bar drinks in the US is made with rye whisky, "7 & 7"

Sheldon

Steve Wertz wrote:
>
> On Sun, 14 May 2006 14:19:08 GMT, Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>
>> And yet they will allow an alleged diety(sp) on a piece of ironed toast to
>> be sold. Unfrigging believeable.
>
> Otherwise the Jesus Freaks would be crying about being denied
> their right to freedom of religion.
>
> They did that there in Austin, where a neighborhood wasn't zoned
> for parking garage for a church. They took it to court and
> argued Freedom of Religion. They won, and got their garage.
> After all, God needed a new garage. He didn't care that it
> infringed on the enjoyment of the neighbors use of their
> properties. Even God knows how to play the laws.
>
> -sw
I always thought that you actually had to drink alcohol to start
discussing religion - obviously we just have to mention it here to get
going...

(and in case I get hit over the knuckles) OBFood: Soul tonight.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

BOB wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> :: jmcquown wrote:
> ::: Peter A wrote:
> :::::: says...
> ::::: I was going through my dad's liquor cabinet and I found a bottle
> of
> ::::: crown royal from 1968!
> ::::
> :::: Except as a curiosity, not much. Whiskey does not continue to age
> once
> :::: in the bottle. It's probably fine to drink, though.
> :::
> ::: Just goes to show, just because something is "old" (heheh) doesn't
> mean it's
> ::: worth more.
> :::
> ::: Jill
> ::
> :: I just checked my liquor supply, booze bottle labels don't
> typically
> :: contain a bottling date, not unless there is something unique like
> it's
> :: a collector's bottle... one would be hard pressed to prove the date
> of
> :: bottling.
> ::
> :: Even Seagram can only give an approximate date (Circa) for a
> particular
> :: bottle of Crown Royal, apparently bottle molds and labeling changed
> :: periodically but individual runs spanned many years:
> ::
> http://www.city.waterloo.on.ca/Seagr...rownroyal.html
> ::
> :: I'm wondering how the OP knows his bottle is from 1968, did his
> father
> :: actually mark the date on the bottle, because I do that, but that's
> :: just date of purchase.
> ::
> :: Sheldon
>
> Tax stamp on the bottle?
>
> BOB

Yes, could well be... but not quite so simple:

http://www.city.waterloo.on.ca/Seagr...idyouknow.html

Dating a Whisky Bottle
Q: How do I date an unopened bottle of whisky?

A: Presuming the year is taken from the excise, or tax, sticker
located over the top of the bottle, you have to add at least three
years. (Canadian Law dictates that Canadian whisky must be aged for a
minimum of three years.)

The year on the excise sticker is not the year in which the whisky was
bottled. It is the year in which the youngest of the whiskies making up
the blend in the bottle was poured into a barrel for ageing.

For example, if the excise label says 1935, like the one seen here,
that puts the bottle in the liquor store in 1938. If the bottle says
that the whisky has been aged for six years, you would adjust your
figures to add six years to the excise label.
---

Sheldon

Steve Wertz wrote:
> Jack Daniels make s straight rye whiskey I see on the shelves
> sometimes.

Jack only makes Tennessee Whiskey, in various grades.

I think you're thinking of Jim Beam Rye in a bright, yellow label.
(Beam of course makes a hell of a lot more Bourbon.)

I used to use that as my Election-night drug. Half-shots every ten to
thirty minutes numbed losses and toasted wins for a decade. Harsh,
testosterone-infused whiskey in the original American style. Then I
graduated to Wild Turkey 101 Rye. And I did that right after I'd
bought a new bottle of the Beam, which then sat for 3 or so years,
unloved. Until last night, when I took someone-here's suggestion and
tried it in a Manhattan. I've been on a Manhattan jag the past few
weeks, using various things in my overstocked liquor cabinet. Maker's
Mark, mostly, but also Tullamore Dew and both the Rye and Bourbon
versions of the 101. They go like this:

Ice (just a few cubes) in a DOF (10-oz whiskey glass)
3 squirts Angostura bitters
1/4 oz Noilly Prat French (sweet) vermouth
1/4 oz Noilly Prat Italian (dry) vermouth
1-1/2 oz Whisk(e)y
garnish with brandied cherry* (I like it with two, some like to pour
the juice in too)


Turns out, the Manhattans made with the Jim Beam Rye were the
smoothest. Not quite as flavorful as the others, but quite a bit
better balanced. It does something to knock the cloying edge off the
vermouth, while the vermouth rounds the edges of the rye. The 101,
being much stronger, seems to keep more character, while also letting
the vermouth stay clear. Which is a good thing if I'm having one. But
if I want two or three, I think the Beam is the choice. They're too
easy to drink.

> Rye's have slipped in popularity, though and you
> won't many out there anymore. For some reason, they usually have
> yellow labels.

Rye is making a comeback, sort of. Ryes used to be the great majority
of whiskeys in North America. Prohibition killed them; then they
became "Canadian"**. Then the slow shift of Canadian production to
other grains all but killed them again. Beam is the only yellow one I
can think of. Most of the others have non-yellow labels.

--Blair

* - if you can't find these, or don't want to blow $7 on a bottle of
them, get some decent Maraschinos, lose about a third of the liquid,
and replace with Napoleon brandy or whatever cognac you have to spare
-- or even Maraschino liqueur, if you're willing. I'm thinking of
canning my own brandied cherries once Cherry season hits.

** - Several things caused this. First, bootlegging of Canadian
product, which also had historically been mostly rye. Second,
bootlegging of American corn liquor from the mountain regions, which
brought the taste of Bourbon to the East Coast. Then, when Prohibition
was lifted, Canadian inventories flooded the market while legitimate
American production took the requisite time to harvest, ferment,
distill, age, bottle, build distribution channels, etc. The Bourbons
were ahead in domestic production, and the Canadians were available to
fill demand for the taste of rye. So there was little need to make
American rye, especially as everyone who wanted rye had learned to ask
for "Canadian," which no doubt didn't feed back to the American
distilleries' planning process very well.

Sheldon wrote:
> I still have my wallet from high school with that BMOC circle. hehe

Clue to budding Sheldonites out the

If it's in your wallet long enough to develop a circle, you're not the
BMOC.

--Blair

Steve Wertz > wrote in news:1if4bgwz6pte4
:

> On 15 May 2006 16:46:09 -0700, Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>
>> Steve Wertz wrote:
>>> Jack Daniels make s straight rye whiskey I see on the shelves
>>> sometimes.
>>
>> Jack only makes Tennessee Whiskey, in various grades.
>>
>> I think you're thinking of Jim Beam Rye in a bright, yellow label.
>> (Beam of course makes a hell of a lot more Bourbon.)
>
> That's it. I'm always interchanging/confusing the two since they
> both taste like crap.
>


I'll have to agree wholeheartedly with you on that one!!

I last drank Beam on June 4th, 1975.

Consequently, I've never bothered to try Jack, but have been told that
they are similar.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

At this spectacle even the most gentle must feel savage, and the most
savage must weep.

Turkish Officer
400 Plateau
24May1915

On 16 May 2006 02:17:35 GMT, LucasP wrote:
> I'll have to agree wholeheartedly with you on that one!!
>
> I last drank Beam on June 4th, 1975.
>
> Consequently, I've never bothered to try Jack, but have been told that
> they are similar.

They may be similar, but they are entirely different - sorta like Two
Buck Chuck vs. Chateau Montelena.
--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig.

sf > wrote in
:

> On 16 May 2006 02:17:35 GMT, LucasP wrote:
>> I'll have to agree wholeheartedly with you on that one!!
>>
>> I last drank Beam on June 4th, 1975.
>>
>> Consequently, I've never bothered to try Jack, but have been told
that
>> they are similar.
>
> They may be similar, but they are entirely different - sorta like Two
> Buck Chuck vs. Chateau Montelena.


Which one's the $2 chuck?

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

At this spectacle even the most gentle must feel savage, and the most
savage must weep.

Turkish Officer
400 Plateau
24May1915

On 16 May 2006 06:06:46 GMT, LucasP wrote:

> sf > wrote in
> :
>
> > On 16 May 2006 02:17:35 GMT, LucasP wrote:
> >> I'll have to agree wholeheartedly with you on that one!!
> >>
> >> I last drank Beam on June 4th, 1975.
> >>
> >> Consequently, I've never bothered to try Jack, but have been told
> that
> >> they are similar.
> >
> > They may be similar, but they are entirely different - sorta like Two
> > Buck Chuck vs. Chateau Montelena.
>
>
> Which one's the $2 chuck?

Jim Beam
--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig.

sf > wrote in
:


>>
>>
>> Which one's the $2 chuck?
>
> Jim Beam


No *wonder* I got sick!!

:-)

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

At this spectacle even the most gentle must feel savage, and the most
savage must weep.

Turkish Officer
400 Plateau
24May1915