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I wondered what they were, I see signs We have carnitas!
Gathered it was a pork dish and figured I'd get around to trying
it one day.

Well, the other night I was in Costco, got the guacamole, some
pastrami, when I spied Carnitas. Hmmm, why not try it, I'll know
what it is then and perhaps make it myself in the future. I made
some fresh salsa to go with my store bought guac, because they
had a picture of salsa on the front labelled Serving Suggestion.

Long story short, I find it's served like you would tacos or fajitas
in a soft tortilla. Luckily I had tortillas, guac, sour cream, iceberg
lettuce, cheese.

Was very good. My salsa was especially good, too. If I may say
so myself.

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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>I wondered what they were, I see signs We have carnitas!
> Gathered it was a pork dish and figured I'd get around to trying
> it one day.
>
> Well, the other night I was in Costco, got the guacamole, some
> pastrami, when I spied Carnitas. Hmmm, why not try it, I'll know
> what it is then and perhaps make it myself in the future. I made
> some fresh salsa to go with my store bought guac, because they
> had a picture of salsa on the front labelled Serving Suggestion.
>
> Long story short, I find it's served like you would tacos or fajitas
> in a soft tortilla. Luckily I had tortillas, guac, sour cream, iceberg
> lettuce, cheese.
>
> Was very good. My salsa was especially good, too. If I may say
> so myself.
>
> nancy
>


When in doubt, it's always best not to search the web. Do NOT look at this
link.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+Se arch


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> "Nancy Young" > wrote


>>I wondered what they were, I see signs We have carnitas!
>> Gathered it was a pork dish and figured I'd get around to trying
>> it one day.


> When in doubt, it's always best not to search the web. Do NOT look at this
> link.
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+Se arch


No! I wanted to surprise myself, and now I sure as hell am not going
to look! (laugh)

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"Food Snob" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:
>> I wondered what they were, I see signs We have carnitas!
>> Gathered it was a pork dish and figured I'd get around to trying
>> it one day.

>
> The best carnitas are nothing but pork cooked in rendered pork fat:
>
> http://rollybrook.com/carnitas-2.htm
>
> Some people put crap like cumin--which isn't even a Mexican spice--in
> them.


> What are the ingredients in the "store bought guac"???
> *Real* guacamole does not store well.


Ingredients: Hass Avocados, Jalapeno puree, dehydrated onion,
salt, Granulated garlic.

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"Food Snob" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:


> The best carnitas are nothing but pork cooked in rendered pork fat:
>
> http://rollybrook.com/carnitas-2.htm
>
> Some people put crap like cumin--which isn't even a Mexican spice--in
> them.


Piecemeal answer, I'm watching Cash Cab and trying to answer you.

Carnitas: Pork, Water Solution, Garlic. No cumin.
Brand name is Del Real.

Guacamole Brand: Avoclassic.

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Can someone describe Costco carnitas? Is it pre-cooked,
for example?

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> Can someone describe Costco carnitas? Is it pre-cooked,
> for example?


Yes, it is, you heat it in the microwave 8 minutes. It is
vacuum packed. Solid chucks of meat, it is up to you to
shred it or whatever it is you want to.

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"Nancy Young" > writes:

> I wondered what they were, I see signs We have carnitas!


Canitas done right ...and it's darn hard to do 'em wrong... are just
awesome and can be done by even a brain dead gringo. They are made
from a big ol' pork shoulder. How can you go wrong with that? If you
want my killer recipe, let me know.

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"notbob" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > writes:
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>> I wondered what they were, I see signs We have carnitas!

>
> Canitas done right ...and it's darn hard to do 'em wrong... are just
> awesome and can be done by even a brain dead gringo. They are made
> from a big ol' pork shoulder. How can you go wrong with that? If you
> want my killer recipe, let me know.


Who could say no to that? I won't make it soon, but
when you get around to it, I'd love to have it. Thanks.

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On Wed 10 May 2006 09:38:33p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it projectile
vomit chick?

> What part of the US has Costcos? I see that chain mentioned a lot
> here, but we have none here in the upper midwest.


Costco is international but, obviously, not everywhere. Check, locations
he http://tinyurl.com/a8bk8

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Nancy Young wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote
>
> > "Nancy Young" > writes:
> >
> >> I wondered what they were, I see signs We have carnitas!

> >
> > Canitas done right ...and it's darn hard to do 'em wrong... are just
> > awesome and can be done by even a brain dead gringo. They are made
> > from a big ol' pork shoulder. How can you go wrong with that? If you
> > want my killer recipe, let me know.

>
> Who could say no to that? I won't make it soon, but
> when you get around to it, I'd love to have it. Thanks.
>
> nancy


"Warm smell of carnitas,
Rising up through the air."

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> On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:24:05 -0400, in rec.food.cooking, "Nancy Young"
> > hit the crackpipe and declared


>>Well, the other night I was in Costco, got the guacamole, some
>>pastrami, when I spied Carnitas.


> What part of the US has Costcos? I see that chain mentioned a lot
> here, but we have none here in the upper midwest.


As far as I know, they're in every state, I could check their site,
I suppose. But you pay to join there, it's not for everyone. They
sell stuff often in large sizes. A warehouse club.

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> wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:


>> >> I wondered what they were, I see signs We have carnitas!


> "Warm smell of carnitas,
> Rising up through the air."


(laugh) Now that song in is my head, replaces yesterday's
Eagles song.

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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>
> > wrote
>
> > Nancy Young wrote:

>
> >> >> I wondered what they were, I see signs We have carnitas!

>
> > "Warm smell of carnitas,
> > Rising up through the air."

>
> (laugh) Now that song in is my head, replaces yesterday's
> Eagles song.
>
> nancy
>
>


You know what's funny? I used to think they said, "warm smell of Hornitas"
which is a brand of tequila. :~)

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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>
> "projectile vomit chick" > wrote
>
>> On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:24:05 -0400, in rec.food.cooking, "Nancy Young"
>> > hit the crackpipe and declared

>
>>>Well, the other night I was in Costco, got the guacamole, some
>>>pastrami, when I spied Carnitas.

>
>> What part of the US has Costcos? I see that chain mentioned a lot
>> here, but we have none here in the upper midwest.

>
> As far as I know, they're in every state, I could check their site,
> I suppose. But you pay to join there, it's not for everyone. They
> sell stuff often in large sizes. A warehouse club.
>
> nancy

I saw one of those 'know it all authors' touting a 'sceptic' book just this
week. There was something about that you don't really save money at Costco.

I am sceptical about his claims.
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Dee Randall wrote:

> I saw one of those 'know it all authors' touting a 'sceptic' book just this
> week. There was something about that you don't really save money at Costco.
>
> I am sceptical about his claims.
> Dee Dee
>
>
>
>


It's probably along the lines of "if you buy things you don't need
because they are "cheap", you don;t save any money in the long run"


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Feeling brand new and I jumped up
Feeling my highs, and my lows
In my soul, and my goals
Just to stop smokin, and stop drinkin
And I've been thinkin - I've got my reasons
Just to get by, just to get by" -Talib Kweli
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> Dee Randall wrote:
>
>> I saw one of those 'know it all authors' touting a 'sceptic' book just
>> this week. There was something about that you don't really save money at
>> Costco.
>>
>> I am sceptical about his claims.
>> Dee Dee
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> It's probably along the lines of "if you buy things you don't need because
> they are "cheap", you don;t save any money in the long run"
> saerah



People are capable of doing that no matter where they shop, right? And, if
you shop carefully, you can save just as much money at traditional
supermarkets as you do at Costco, BJ's, etc. If laundry detergent's on sale
in a big way, I'll buy a dozen, and I'm set for two years. Same with stuff
like canned soups - 30 cans when they're 1.49 instead of 2.29.




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"Dee Randall" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote


>> As far as I know, they're in every state, I could check their site,
>> I suppose. But you pay to join there, it's not for everyone. They
>> sell stuff often in large sizes. A warehouse club.


> I saw one of those 'know it all authors' touting a 'sceptic' book just
> this week. There was something about that you don't really save money at
> Costco.
>
> I am sceptical about his claims.


I am skeptical about most people who make money printing
DUH pronouncements. Many people most assuredly do save
money, many don't and many lose money. I can't be the only
person who doesn't go there just to save money, anyway, he
doesn't need to worry about it.

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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>
> "Dee Randall" > wrote
>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>
>>> As far as I know, they're in every state, I could check their site,
>>> I suppose. But you pay to join there, it's not for everyone. They
>>> sell stuff often in large sizes. A warehouse club.

>
>> I saw one of those 'know it all authors' touting a 'sceptic' book just
>> this week. There was something about that you don't really save money at
>> Costco.
>>
>> I am sceptical about his claims.

>
> I am skeptical about most people who make money printing
> DUH pronouncements. Many people most assuredly do save
> money, many don't and many lose money. I can't be the only
> person who doesn't go there just to save money, anyway, he
> doesn't need to worry about it.
>
> nancy
>


The pronouncements don't take into account the fact that some people barely
have time to go food shopping, and have to limit it to just one store where
they're guaranteed to find everything they need. Others (some in this
newsgroup) seem to visit 3-4 stores each week, one of which is a
warehouse-type store. I would suggest that those people pay attention to the
cost of getting to all those extra places, but that's just me....


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> "Nancy Young" > wrote


>> I am skeptical about most people who make money printing
>> DUH pronouncements. Many people most assuredly do save
>> money, many don't and many lose money. I can't be the only
>> person who doesn't go there just to save money, anyway, he
>> doesn't need to worry about it.


> The pronouncements don't take into account the fact that some people
> barely have time to go food shopping, and have to limit it to just one
> store where they're guaranteed to find everything they need. Others (some
> in this newsgroup) seem to visit 3-4 stores each week, one of which is a
> warehouse-type store. I would suggest that those people pay attention to
> the cost of getting to all those extra places, but that's just me....


(laugh!) Are you talking about me? Maybe, I do shop often but
hardly go to Costco, maybe once a month, usually when I am running
other errands in the neighborhood. As far as the grocery store goes, it's
a mile away, I'd have trouble missing it if I had to leave the house,
practically, it's no big expense to stop there. A tank of gas lasts me
a long time.

So I'm going to think you weren't talking about me.

My motivation for joining Costco has little or nothing to do with
saving money. It has to do with their meat department, with having
access to products that people mention that I can't get elsewhere,
along those lines.

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"Doug Kanter" > writes:

> in a big way, I'll buy a dozen, and I'm set for two years. Same with stuff
> like canned soups - 30 cans when they're 1.49 instead of 2.29.


Bingo! I don't buy anything unless it's *at least* 50% off. When it
is, I stock up. Occasionoally, seasonal sales are even better. My
last killing was last Thanksgiving. Swanson's broths, three for a
dollar. These days, with the supermarketing model being what it is,
everything is heavily discounted eventually. I let my Costco
membership expire.

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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>
> "Doug Kanter" > wrote
>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>
>>> I am skeptical about most people who make money printing
>>> DUH pronouncements. Many people most assuredly do save
>>> money, many don't and many lose money. I can't be the only
>>> person who doesn't go there just to save money, anyway, he
>>> doesn't need to worry about it.

>
>> The pronouncements don't take into account the fact that some people
>> barely have time to go food shopping, and have to limit it to just one
>> store where they're guaranteed to find everything they need. Others (some
>> in this newsgroup) seem to visit 3-4 stores each week, one of which is a
>> warehouse-type store. I would suggest that those people pay attention to
>> the cost of getting to all those extra places, but that's just me....

>
> (laugh!) Are you talking about me? Maybe, I do shop often but
> hardly go to Costco, maybe once a month, usually when I am running
> other errands in the neighborhood. As far as the grocery store goes, it's
> a mile away, I'd have trouble missing it if I had to leave the house,
> practically, it's no big expense to stop there. A tank of gas lasts me
> a long time.
>
> So I'm going to think you weren't talking about me.
>
> My motivation for joining Costco has little or nothing to do with
> saving money. It has to do with their meat department, with having
> access to products that people mention that I can't get elsewhere,
> along those lines.
>
> nancy
>


I hear the multi-store hobby mentioned so often here that any specific
identities are a blur. So, I wasn't talking about you.




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> "Doug Kanter" > writes:
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>> in a big way, I'll buy a dozen, and I'm set for two years. Same with
>> stuff
>> like canned soups - 30 cans when they're 1.49 instead of 2.29.

>
> Bingo! I don't buy anything unless it's *at least* 50% off. When it
> is, I stock up. Occasionoally, seasonal sales are even better. My
> last killing was last Thanksgiving. Swanson's broths, three for a
> dollar. These days, with the supermarketing model being what it is,
> everything is heavily discounted eventually.


The success of Wal Mart & other "discounters" is dependent on people not
noticing that last thing, above. It amazes me that the advertising can
convince people that things are so much cheaper, when much of the time, they
not.

Our local paper does a quarterly shopping trip to Wegman's and Tops, both
traditional supermarkets, and Wal Mart. The first two *always* turn out
cheaper. I'm in that business, so I understand why, but it still seems to
make no impact on the public.


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"Doug Kanter" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote


>> "Doug Kanter" > wrote


>>> The pronouncements don't take into account the fact that some people
>>> barely have time to go food shopping, and have to limit it to just one
>>> store where they're guaranteed to find everything they need. Others
>>> (some in this newsgroup) seem to visit 3-4 stores each week, one of
>>> which is a warehouse-type store. I would suggest that those people pay
>>> attention to the cost of getting to all those extra places, but that's
>>> just me....

>>
>> (laugh!) Are you talking about me? Maybe, I do shop often but
>> hardly go to Costco, maybe once a month, usually when I am running
>> other errands in the neighborhood. As far as the grocery store goes,
>> it's
>> a mile away, I'd have trouble missing it if I had to leave the house,
>> practically, it's no big expense to stop there. A tank of gas lasts me
>> a long time.
>>
>> So I'm going to think you weren't talking about me.


> I hear the multi-store hobby mentioned so often here that any specific
> identities are a blur. So, I wasn't talking about you.


Ah! I see what you're saying. The lion's share of my shopping is
done at one store, I don't drive around following the sales circular.
Save 5 cents on potatoes and spend a 50 cents on gas, I know people
do that. If nothing else, I'm too lazy to bother. But I do stop at the
store at least twice a week. I wish I was able to plan and shop for
food just once a week, I can't seem to.

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> "Doug Kanter" > wrote
>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>
>>> "Doug Kanter" > wrote

>
>>>> The pronouncements don't take into account the fact that some people
>>>> barely have time to go food shopping, and have to limit it to just one
>>>> store where they're guaranteed to find everything they need. Others
>>>> (some in this newsgroup) seem to visit 3-4 stores each week, one of
>>>> which is a warehouse-type store. I would suggest that those people pay
>>>> attention to the cost of getting to all those extra places, but that's
>>>> just me....
>>>
>>> (laugh!) Are you talking about me? Maybe, I do shop often but
>>> hardly go to Costco, maybe once a month, usually when I am running
>>> other errands in the neighborhood. As far as the grocery store goes,
>>> it's
>>> a mile away, I'd have trouble missing it if I had to leave the house,
>>> practically, it's no big expense to stop there. A tank of gas lasts me
>>> a long time.
>>>
>>> So I'm going to think you weren't talking about me.

>
>> I hear the multi-store hobby mentioned so often here that any specific
>> identities are a blur. So, I wasn't talking about you.

>
> Ah! I see what you're saying. The lion's share of my shopping is
> done at one store, I don't drive around following the sales circular.
> Save 5 cents on potatoes and spend a 50 cents on gas, I know people
> do that. If nothing else, I'm too lazy to bother. But I do stop at the
> store at least twice a week. I wish I was able to plan and shop for
> food just once a week, I can't seem to.
>
> nancy
>
>


I can't either, although it's about to get easier as 10 kinds of greens in
the garden begin producing heavily.


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"Doug Kanter" > writes:

> cheaper. I'm in that business, so I understand why, but it still seems to
> make no impact on the public.


Most people are too lazy to pay attention to the circulars. I get
four every Tuesday and I read them religiously. Granted, it's
painfully tedious to read each one closely, but it pays off every
time. I haven't paid full price in years.

My last triumph was Cholula Hot Sauce, a product that, while very
good, is ridiculously overpriced. So much so, I quit buying it. But,
there it was, on Cinco de Mayo, 2 for $5. Not quite 50% off, but
close enough.

I must say one thing for Costco. Their prescription drug prices are
unbeatable. I've personally experienced discounts of up to 60%. No
one else even comes close. And, the best part is, you need not be a
member. Plus, I can get a hot dog and a soda while I wait.

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> Some people put crap like cumin--which isn't even a Mexican spice--in
> them.


Yeah, and...and...some people put crap like tomatoes - which aren't
even an Italian vegetable - and aren't even a vegetable - in their
pasta!

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> > I wondered what they were, I see signs We have carnitas!

>
> Canitas done right ...and it's darn hard to do 'em wrong...


I've had mediocre carnitas. Not enough marinade/rub on the meat.
Green sauce wth muddy flavors and no punch. Stale tortillas.

But otherwise, it's one of those things I must try if it's on the menu.

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> On 11 May 2006 07:21:23 +0200, in rec.food.cooking, Wayne Boatwright
> <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> hit the crackpipe and declared:
>
>>On Wed 10 May 2006 09:38:33p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it projectile
>>vomit chick?
>>
>>
>>>What part of the US has Costcos? I see that chain mentioned a lot
>>>here, but we have none here in the upper midwest.

>>
>>Costco is international but, obviously, not everywhere. Check, locations
>>he http://tinyurl.com/a8bk8

>
>
> Thanks for the info. I could have looked on Google, obviously, but ya
> know, it's after midnight <g>


What? There's a Google curfew in Iowa? <g>

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> I've had mediocre carnitas. Not enough marinade/rub on the meat.
> Green sauce wth muddy flavors and no punch. Stale tortillas.



I've seen carnitas poorly done. One place had mex food in a steam
table and the carnitas were dried out. No kidding, they looked like
fuzzy wood chips. Coulda used 'em for kindling.

Here's my way. May not be authentic, but sure damn good.

Notbob's Carnitas

# 4-5lb bone-in pork shoulder
# 2 T cooking oil
# 1 can chicken broth
# 1 C water
# 2 T ground New Mexico chile powder (opt)
# 1 T chopped cilantro
# 1 T cummin (comino)
# 1 T oregano (crush between hands)
# 2 cloves garlic
# 2 bay leaves
# 1 onion, quartered
# 1 Lrg orange, juice only
# 1 lime, juice only
# 2 t salt
# 1 t blk peppercorns

I use one of those big orange creuset thingies. I brown the shoulder
in the oil, add all the remaining stuff, and put the whole thing in a
300 deg F oven (lid on) for 3-4 hours or until the meat easily pulls
apart. I then pull the bones, break up into 1/4-1/2lb chunks, return
to braising pot on stovetop, frying the pieces in the remaining
braising liquid (strained) till it evaporates and coats the meat.
Yum! As good as the weekend carnitas around the corner at the
carniceria.

nb

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> Here's my way. May not be authentic, but sure damn good.
>
> Notbob's Carnitas


Thank you! One of these days, few weeks maybe.

nancy


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> "Doug Kanter" > writes:
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>> cheaper. I'm in that business, so I understand why, but it still seems to
>> make no impact on the public.

>
> Most people are too lazy to pay attention to the circulars. I get
> four every Tuesday and I read them religiously. Granted, it's
> painfully tedious to read each one closely, but it pays off every
> time. I haven't paid full price in years.
>
> My last triumph was Cholula Hot Sauce, a product that, while very
> good, is ridiculously overpriced. So much so, I quit buying it. But,
> there it was, on Cinco de Mayo, 2 for $5. Not quite 50% off, but
> close enough.
>
> I must say one thing for Costco. Their prescription drug prices are
> unbeatable. I've personally experienced discounts of up to 60%. No
> one else even comes close. And, the best part is, you need not be a
> member. Plus, I can get a hot dog and a soda while I wait.
>


My in-laws were complaining about the lack of a nearby Costco after they
moved, and then found out that Walgreens (I think it was Walgreens) did
price matching. All they had to do was bring in the Costco receipt once, and
they get the matching price from now on. It might expire at some point, but
according to them, it's a forever thing.

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> "Doug Kanter" > wrote
>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>
>>> "Doug Kanter" > wrote

>
>>>> The pronouncements don't take into account the fact that some people
>>>> barely have time to go food shopping, and have to limit it to just one
>>>> store where they're guaranteed to find everything they need. Others
>>>> (some in this newsgroup) seem to visit 3-4 stores each week, one of
>>>> which is a warehouse-type store. I would suggest that those people pay
>>>> attention to the cost of getting to all those extra places, but that's
>>>> just me....
>>>
>>> (laugh!) Are you talking about me? Maybe, I do shop often but
>>> hardly go to Costco, maybe once a month, usually when I am running
>>> other errands in the neighborhood. As far as the grocery store goes,
>>> it's
>>> a mile away, I'd have trouble missing it if I had to leave the house,
>>> practically, it's no big expense to stop there. A tank of gas lasts me
>>> a long time.
>>>
>>> So I'm going to think you weren't talking about me.

>
>> I hear the multi-store hobby mentioned so often here that any specific
>> identities are a blur. So, I wasn't talking about you.

>
> Ah! I see what you're saying. The lion's share of my shopping is
> done at one store, I don't drive around following the sales circular.
> Save 5 cents on potatoes and spend a 50 cents on gas, I know people
> do that. If nothing else, I'm too lazy to bother. But I do stop at the
> store at least twice a week. I wish I was able to plan and shop for
> food just once a week, I can't seem to.
>
> nancy
>


Two weeks ago, I went to all 3 local chains in the same week, because all 3
had decent sales on stuff I needed. The past two weeks, their sales weren't
all that amusing, so when I needed something, I went to the one that was
closest to where else I had to be. So maybe I shop too often some weeks, but
these places are all close by and/or on the way to where else I have to be.
Let's put it this way, I put gas in the car once every 3-4 weeks, and it's
only a 9 gallon tank. I'm not putting on a lot of miles buying groceries.

Donna


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On Wed, 10 May 2006 19:03:19 -0400, "Nancy Young"
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>> Some people put crap like cumin--which isn't even a Mexican spice--in
>> them.

>
>Piecemeal answer, I'm watching Cash Cab and trying to answer you.
>
>Carnitas: Pork, Water Solution, Garlic. No cumin.
> Brand name is Del Real.
>


There you have it. It's "real."


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Went out to lunch with some colleagues. Ordered Carnitas.

The waitress asked which kind?

Me: "Huh?

Her: "Beef, Chicken or Pork?"

(I should have had the clue)

Me: "Well... Pork."

I got served Fajitas, which sounds like Carnitas, I guess, and not
entirely different.

Oh well.


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> I saw one of those 'know it all authors' touting a 'sceptic' book just this
> week. There was something about that you don't really save money at Costco.


Well, I agree that you don't necessarily save money, but it depends
how you shop. We save lots on gas, and on cheeses and other
perishables. There are some things we get there that we don't find
elsewhere, and so in a way it's not saving money, because we wouldn't
buy it otherwise, but we get it at a discount and buy it rarely. We
only shop there, probably quarterly, but we use the gas station a lot.
We are thinking of letting our membership go, though, because between
the grocery outlet and the cash and carry, we get nearly everything that
we could find at Costco, we can get there also and for the same or less
money, without a membership. Our Fred Meyer also gives you a 10 cent
per gallon discount for every $100 you spend, and we shop the most
there, so now we're finding that we can beat the gas price, too.

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notbob > wrote:

>I use one of those big orange creuset thingies. I brown the shoulder
>in the oil, add all the remaining stuff, and put the whole thing in a
>300 deg F oven (lid on) for 3-4 hours or until the meat easily pulls
>apart.


Sounds great. Have you verified your oven's temperature
recently? 300 degrees sounds to hot to properly gelatinize the
toughness out of the meat. 200 - 225 is the range I've usually
heard recommended. "Low and slow", etc.

Steve
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