Elaine Parrish wrote:
>
> I don't know who said what, so I clipped everybody's name (E,t <g>)
>>
>> > Example: I don't eat raw fish. I know that lots of people adore sushi
>> > bars, but I can't bring myself to try it.
>>
>
> I don't eat raw fish, either (I don't eat much fish of any kind).
>
> A friend of mine adores sushi and I like tempura well enough to get
> through an evening of her great company. I wasn't sure I was
> going enjoy sitting across the table from her, though. However, when her
> sushi plate came, there were two shrimp things (a cube of cold rice,
> shrimp on top, wrapped in a dark green weed [seaweed?}).
>
> Both the shrimp were pink. I didn't know enough about the other fish to
> know whether or not it was cooked. A little investigating proved that it
> was, too.
>
> Tee hee hee. All the folks that I know that were bragging about eating raw
> fish were either misinformed or just rattling everyone else's cage.
>
> Sashimi is the raw stuff and it isn't offered anywhere around here. But
> that hasn't stopped most of the people I know from talking about cool it
> is to eat "raw" fish. <g>
>
> The shrimp were very large and very good. It's the cold glob of rice and a
> huge weed ribbon I can't abide.
>
> Elaine, too
>

There are a few cooked items commonly found on a sushi plate, shrimp is one,
freshwater eel is another. You can get the shrimp raw, aba-emi, but I don't
like it and I think it's always overcooked so i avoid the shrimp altogether.

Did your friend only get shrimp? Or did she get a sushi plate that included
only cooked items? I'm confused about this. What kind of sushi restaurant only
serves cooked fish? Generally, when I go to get sushi I only get one cooked
piece, generally the eel. Most of the precooked things (tempura rolls,
california rolls) tend to be over-flavored and you miss out on the fresh, raw
flavor of a lot of the fish. Since I have a finite amount of room in my belly,
I'm going to focus on what I'm paying for, namely raw fish based sushi.

the fish or shrimp over a block of rice is called nigiri, raw fish alone is
sashimi, rolls are maki.

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Elaine Parrish wrote:
>
> I don't eat raw fish, either (I don't eat much fish of any kind).
>
> A friend of mine adores sushi and I like tempura well enough to get
> through an evening of her great company. I wasn't sure I was
> going enjoy sitting across the table from her, though. However, when her
> sushi plate came, there were two shrimp things (a cube of cold rice,
> shrimp on top, wrapped in a dark green weed [seaweed?}).
>
> Both the shrimp were pink. I didn't know enough about the other fish to
> know whether or not it was cooked. A little investigating proved that it
> was, too.
>
> Tee hee hee. All the folks that I know that were bragging about eating raw
> fish were either misinformed or just rattling everyone else's cage.
>
> Sashimi is the raw stuff and it isn't offered anywhere around here. But
> that hasn't stopped most of the people I know from talking about cool it
> is to eat "raw" fish. <g>
>
> The shrimp were very large and very good. It's the cold glob of rice and a
> huge weed ribbon I can't abide.
>
So you're saying that your friends can't tell the difference between
raw fish and cooked fish? And that tickles you?

I find the first really hard to believe. The second, I believe. -aem

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:46:14 -0600, Elaine Parrish >
wrote:

>
>I don't know who said what, so I clipped everybody's name (E,t <g>)
>>
>> > Example: I don't eat raw fish. I know that lots of people adore sushi
>> > bars, but I can't bring myself to try it.
>>
>
>I don't eat raw fish, either (I don't eat much fish of any kind).
>
>A friend of mine adores sushi and I like tempura well enough to get
>through an evening of her great company. I wasn't sure I was
>going enjoy sitting across the table from her, though. However, when her
>sushi plate came, there were two shrimp things (a cube of cold rice,
>shrimp on top, wrapped in a dark green weed [seaweed?}).
>
>Both the shrimp were pink. I didn't know enough about the other fish to
>know whether or not it was cooked. A little investigating proved that it
>was, too.
>
>Tee hee hee. All the folks that I know that were bragging about eating raw
>fish were either misinformed or just rattling everyone else's cage.

I assure you that when I eat sushi, the fish is raw, except for the
shrimp. The restaurant ypou went to obviously doesn't want to deal
with raw fish (has to be fresh of the day etc.) and does what my local
supermarket does, serves "cooked fish sushi" (an oxymoron IMO).

Nathalie in Switzerland

"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
. ..
> I've thought more about the question of what makes a fussy adult and how
> to deal with them. I've decided that the definition of fussy is someone
> who can't find anything to eat in a restaurant or social gathering or
> someone who can't be polite in those situations.

I'm with you on that. On the other hand, I firmly believe that adults should
be free to choose what to eat or not when they're dining somewhere, and when
we have people over, I always try to have choices available, should they
dislike something I've served. And I'll serve "family style" so if they
don't like tomatoes, they can avoid putting them on their plate when the
salad comes around. I'll usually have two salad dressings at the table, and
I'll serve two vegetables. Condiments will be left off for people to decide
which ones and how much.

While there is a very short list of things that I won't eat -- raisins,
coconut, and fish with small bones -- there are other things that while I
wouldn't gag or refuse to eat them, I'd prefer to politely decline. For
example, my MIL's "gravy" is basically flour browned and/or burnt in a dry
teflon pan, with water added. I would prefer not to have that on top of any
food. But sometimes she'll serve a roast, cut up, with the "gravy" poured
over the top. I don't make a fuss over it, I just try to choose a slice with
minimal gravy. Other things she serves, you get no choice. Salad, soup, and
dessert are just given to you. I tend not to like her desserts, so I've
learned that if I go into the kitchen when she's dishing it up, I can stop
her by saying that I'm really full. But otherwise, you get no choice about
getting the dessert or how much of it you get.

Worst example is a now-unrelated in-law who used to put raisins in the
meatballs she made with spaghetti. She served family-style, and I'd just
take the noodles, no meatballs. That was fine with me. If she was sitting
anywhere within arms reach of me, she'd take meatballs from the serving dish
and put them on my plate. If she wasn't close by, she'd tell someone else to
give me some meatballs. The only way I could eat those things was by
dissecting them to remove the raisins. I would have preferred to just not
take the meatballs.

"D.Currie" > writes:

>take the noodles, no meatballs. That was fine with me. If she was sitting
>anywhere within arms reach of me, she'd take meatballs from the serving dish
>and put them on my plate. If she wasn't close by, she'd tell someone else to
>give me some meatballs.

That is just rude. That's a control issue and I would have a lot of
trouble dealing with that in a polite way.
I don't mind if people don't take something I make. Keep in mind I
don't cook for anyone but myself and my husband anymore. But in the
past if someone didn't like something I served, as long as they didn't
get all complainey and rude about it, I didn't care. My parents and
former friends were easy because they would eat almost anything. The
in-laws, not so much. Even at restaurants they had all sorts of
unspoken rules guests had to follow. I was scolded once for ordering a
small salad and lemonade with a dash of peach Schnapps for a drink,
while someone else (not even a relative, just a moocher friend) ordered
two meals and two appetizers for himself alone and no one said a word.
Apparently the rules we Alcohol BAD. Gluttony GOOD.

Stacia

"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
. ..
> I've thought more about the question of what makes a fussy adult and how
> to deal with them. I've decided that the definition of fussy is someone
> who can't find anything to eat in a restaurant or social gathering or
> someone who can't be polite in those situations.
>

Thinking even more about this, If you have to change the way you cook to
accommodate someone's list of banned foods (barring medical or religious
reasons) then they might be considered fussy. Unless of course your own
cooking is quirky to begin with.

But consider this list of foods that one couple has, at one time or another,
said they don't like/can't eat: onion, black pepper, celery seed/celery
salt, oregano, marjoram, basil, mint, rosemary, Mexican food, Italian food,
spicy food of any sort, olive oil, winter squash, chocolate, cucumber, corn,
garlic, chicken gizzards, liver, anything in the cabbage family, dressing on
salad, raw tomato, cumin, most ethnic foods, and most
spices/herbs/seasonings, asparagus, radishes, spinach, sourdough bread, rye
bread...and I've never seen them eat any sort of fish or seafood. Oh, I'm
sure I'm missing a few things; I'm still compiling the list.

And, they've commented on other dinners they've had pointing out fatal flaws
in the cooking. For example, one time they were served baked potato with a
ham dinner and that "ruined the meal." Okay, baked potato with ham wouldn't
be my first choice, but it wouldn't ruin the meal for me. There have been
similar comments, criticizing other meals they've been served and each time
I've thought that the comment was overly critical.

When we dine at their house, the vegetable is invariably green beans
(frozen, never fresh) with fake bacon bits on top, and there are no spices
or seasonings used on anything. Not even salt. No butter, either. Anywhere.
If there is butter on the table, it is actually margarine mixed with some
sort of oil and either sugar or corn syrup as she doesn't like hard butter,
and it's too much trouble to take it out of the fridge ahead of time. I'll
tell ya, it's a shock when you butter a roll and the "butter" is sweet. And
this is the same person who makes "gravy" from flour and water, and I once
saw her dress a salad with watered-down ketchup. And the many times we've
eaten ham there (one of their favorites) it's not cooked, it's microwaved,
and then she pours maple-flavored pancake syrup on top.

When they've dined with us, they've eaten a number of things on their
"banned" list, particularly the spices/herbs/seasonings/flavorings. And they
rave about how good it is, and take second and third and fourth helpings.
But if you ask them if they like oregano or rosemary or sage, for example,
they'll say no. Which makes cooking for them somewhat of a challenge because
I'm never sure if they really don't like something, or if it's just
something they say they don't like because they don't have it at home.

And the list is getting longer. It seems like each time we eat with them,
they tell us about more foods they don't like. It not as bad as it seems,
though, as there are some things I know I can cook for them. But I wouldn't
want to eat with them on a daily basis.

D.Currie wrote:
> "Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
> . ..
>
>>I've thought more about the question of what makes a fussy adult and how
>>to deal with them. I've decided that the definition of fussy is someone
>>who can't find anything to eat in a restaurant or social gathering or
>>someone who can't be polite in those situations.
>>
>
>
> Thinking even more about this, If you have to change the way you cook to
> accommodate someone's list of banned foods (barring medical or religious
> reasons) then they might be considered fussy. Unless of course your own
> cooking is quirky to begin with.
>
> But consider this list of foods that one couple has, at one time or another,
> said they don't like/can't eat: onion, black pepper, celery seed/celery
> salt, oregano, marjoram, basil, mint, rosemary, Mexican food, Italian food,
> spicy food of any sort, olive oil, winter squash, chocolate, cucumber, corn,
> garlic, chicken gizzards, liver, anything in the cabbage family, dressing on
> salad, raw tomato, cumin, most ethnic foods, and most
> spices/herbs/seasonings, asparagus, radishes, spinach, sourdough bread, rye
> bread...and I've never seen them eat any sort of fish or seafood. Oh, I'm
> sure I'm missing a few things; I'm still compiling the list.
>
> And, they've commented on other dinners they've had pointing out fatal flaws
> in the cooking. For example, one time they were served baked potato with a
> ham dinner and that "ruined the meal." Okay, baked potato with ham wouldn't
> be my first choice, but it wouldn't ruin the meal for me. There have been
> similar comments, criticizing other meals they've been served and each time
> I've thought that the comment was overly critical.
>
> When we dine at their house, the vegetable is invariably green beans
> (frozen, never fresh) with fake bacon bits on top, and there are no spices
> or seasonings used on anything. Not even salt. No butter, either. Anywhere.
> If there is butter on the table, it is actually margarine mixed with some
> sort of oil and either sugar or corn syrup as she doesn't like hard butter,
> and it's too much trouble to take it out of the fridge ahead of time. I'll
> tell ya, it's a shock when you butter a roll and the "butter" is sweet. And
> this is the same person who makes "gravy" from flour and water, and I once
> saw her dress a salad with watered-down ketchup. And the many times we've
> eaten ham there (one of their favorites) it's not cooked, it's microwaved,
> and then she pours maple-flavored pancake syrup on top.
>
> When they've dined with us, they've eaten a number of things on their
> "banned" list, particularly the spices/herbs/seasonings/flavorings. And they
> rave about how good it is, and take second and third and fourth helpings.
> But if you ask them if they like oregano or rosemary or sage, for example,
> they'll say no. Which makes cooking for them somewhat of a challenge because
> I'm never sure if they really don't like something, or if it's just
> something they say they don't like because they don't have it at home.
>
> And the list is getting longer. It seems like each time we eat with them,
> they tell us about more foods they don't like. It not as bad as it seems,
> though, as there are some things I know I can cook for them. But I wouldn't
> want to eat with them on a daily basis.
>
>

OMG. I have no words for this. It must be difficult to share meals with
such people (may I suggest going to the movies instead?). How can I
begin to express my sympathy?

In article >,
jake > wrote:

> D.Currie wrote:
> > "Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> >
> >>I've thought more about the question of what makes a fussy adult and how
> >>to deal with them. I've decided that the definition of fussy is someone
> >>who can't find anything to eat in a restaurant or social gathering or
> >>someone who can't be polite in those situations.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Thinking even more about this, If you have to change the way you cook to
> > accommodate someone's list of banned foods (barring medical or religious
> > reasons) then they might be considered fussy. Unless of course your own
> > cooking is quirky to begin with.
> >
> > But consider this list of foods that one couple has, at one time or
> > another,
> > said they don't like/can't eat: onion, black pepper, celery seed/celery
> > salt, oregano, marjoram, basil, mint, rosemary, Mexican food, Italian food,
> > spicy food of any sort, olive oil, winter squash, chocolate, cucumber,
> > corn,
> > garlic, chicken gizzards, liver, anything in the cabbage family, dressing
> > on
> > salad, raw tomato, cumin, most ethnic foods, and most
> > spices/herbs/seasonings, asparagus, radishes, spinach, sourdough bread, rye
> > bread...and I've never seen them eat any sort of fish or seafood. Oh, I'm
> > sure I'm missing a few things; I'm still compiling the list.
> >
> > And, they've commented on other dinners they've had pointing out fatal
> > flaws
> > in the cooking. For example, one time they were served baked potato with a
> > ham dinner and that "ruined the meal." Okay, baked potato with ham wouldn't
> > be my first choice, but it wouldn't ruin the meal for me. There have been
> > similar comments, criticizing other meals they've been served and each time
> > I've thought that the comment was overly critical.
> >
> > When we dine at their house, the vegetable is invariably green beans
> > (frozen, never fresh) with fake bacon bits on top, and there are no spices
> > or seasonings used on anything. Not even salt. No butter, either. Anywhere.
> > If there is butter on the table, it is actually margarine mixed with some
> > sort of oil and either sugar or corn syrup as she doesn't like hard butter,
> > and it's too much trouble to take it out of the fridge ahead of time. I'll
> > tell ya, it's a shock when you butter a roll and the "butter" is sweet. And
> > this is the same person who makes "gravy" from flour and water, and I once
> > saw her dress a salad with watered-down ketchup. And the many times we've
> > eaten ham there (one of their favorites) it's not cooked, it's microwaved,
> > and then she pours maple-flavored pancake syrup on top.
> >
> > When they've dined with us, they've eaten a number of things on their
> > "banned" list, particularly the spices/herbs/seasonings/flavorings. And
> > they
> > rave about how good it is, and take second and third and fourth helpings.
> > But if you ask them if they like oregano or rosemary or sage, for example,
> > they'll say no. Which makes cooking for them somewhat of a challenge
> > because
> > I'm never sure if they really don't like something, or if it's just
> > something they say they don't like because they don't have it at home.
> >
> > And the list is getting longer. It seems like each time we eat with them,
> > they tell us about more foods they don't like. It not as bad as it seems,
> > though, as there are some things I know I can cook for them. But I wouldn't
> > want to eat with them on a daily basis.
> >
> >
>
> OMG. I have no words for this. It must be difficult to share meals with
> such people (may I suggest going to the movies instead?). How can I
> begin to express my sympathy?

Just one word comes to mind. Grateful.

Bill

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"D.Currie" > writes:

>When we dine at their house, the vegetable is invariably green beans
>(frozen, never fresh) with fake bacon bits on top, and there are no spices
>or seasonings used on anything. Not even salt. No butter, either. Anywhere.
>If there is butter on the table, it is actually margarine mixed with some
>sort of oil and either sugar or corn syrup as she doesn't like hard butter,

[snipped list of food atrocities]

The problem may be that they just don't understand food. I wonder if
they even know what rosemary tastes like when they say they don't like
it. They also appear to really enjoy sweet things to the extreme.
The watered-down ketchup thing was just gross though. I'm going to
have nightmares about that.

Stacia

On Sun 15 Jan 2006 01:37:58p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it D.Currie?

>
> "Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> I've thought more about the question of what makes a fussy adult and
>> how to deal with them. I've decided that the definition of fussy is
>> someone who can't find anything to eat in a restaurant or social
>> gathering or someone who can't be polite in those situations.
>>
>
> Thinking even more about this, If you have to change the way you cook to
> accommodate someone's list of banned foods (barring medical or religious
> reasons) then they might be considered fussy. Unless of course your own
> cooking is quirky to begin with.
>
> But consider this list of foods that one couple has, at one time or
> another, said they don't like/can't eat: onion, black pepper, celery
> seed/celery salt, oregano, marjoram, basil, mint, rosemary, Mexican
> food, Italian food, spicy food of any sort, olive oil, winter squash,
> chocolate, cucumber, corn, garlic, chicken gizzards, liver, anything in
> the cabbage family, dressing on salad, raw tomato, cumin, most ethnic
> foods, and most spices/herbs/seasonings, asparagus, radishes, spinach,
> sourdough bread, rye bread...and I've never seen them eat any sort of
> fish or seafood. Oh, I'm sure I'm missing a few things; I'm still
> compiling the list.
>
> And, they've commented on other dinners they've had pointing out fatal
> flaws in the cooking. For example, one time they were served baked
> potato with a ham dinner and that "ruined the meal." Okay, baked potato
> with ham wouldn't be my first choice, but it wouldn't ruin the meal for
> me. There have been similar comments, criticizing other meals they've
> been served and each time I've thought that the comment was overly
> critical.
>
> When we dine at their house, the vegetable is invariably green beans
> (frozen, never fresh) with fake bacon bits on top, and there are no
> spices or seasonings used on anything. Not even salt. No butter, either.
> Anywhere. If there is butter on the table, it is actually margarine
> mixed with some sort of oil and either sugar or corn syrup as she
> doesn't like hard butter, and it's too much trouble to take it out of
> the fridge ahead of time. I'll tell ya, it's a shock when you butter a
> roll and the "butter" is sweet. And this is the same person who makes
> "gravy" from flour and water, and I once saw her dress a salad with
> watered-down ketchup. And the many times we've eaten ham there (one of
> their favorites) it's not cooked, it's microwaved, and then she pours
> maple-flavored pancake syrup on top.
>
> When they've dined with us, they've eaten a number of things on their
> "banned" list, particularly the spices/herbs/seasonings/flavorings. And
> they rave about how good it is, and take second and third and fourth
> helpings. But if you ask them if they like oregano or rosemary or sage,
> for example, they'll say no. Which makes cooking for them somewhat of a
> challenge because I'm never sure if they really don't like something, or
> if it's just something they say they don't like because they don't have
> it at home.
>
> And the list is getting longer. It seems like each time we eat with
> them, they tell us about more foods they don't like. It not as bad as it
> seems, though, as there are some things I know I can cook for them. But
> I wouldn't want to eat with them on a daily basis.

People like that would never darken my door again, nor would I eat with
them in a restaurant. Geesh!

--
Wayne Boatwright Õ¿Õ¬
__________________________________________________

"One man's meat is another man's poison"
- Oswald Dykes, English writer, 1709.

D.Currie wrote:
> Thinking even more about this, If you have to change the way you cook to
> accommodate someone's list of banned foods (barring medical or religious
> reasons) then they might be considered fussy. Unless of course your own
> cooking is quirky to begin with.

I don't - or won't. Don't like my cooking, don't come to eat.

>
> But consider this list of foods that one couple has, at one time or another,
> said they don't like/can't eat: onion, black pepper, celery seed/celery
> salt, oregano, marjoram, basil, mint, rosemary, Mexican food, Italian food,
> spicy food of any sort, olive oil, winter squash, chocolate, cucumber, corn,
> garlic, chicken gizzards, liver, anything in the cabbage family, dressing on
> salad, raw tomato, cumin, most ethnic foods, and most
> spices/herbs/seasonings, asparagus, radishes, spinach, sourdough bread, rye
> bread...and I've never seen them eat any sort of fish or seafood. Oh, I'm
> sure I'm missing a few things; I'm still compiling the list.
>
> And, they've commented on other dinners they've had pointing out fatal flaws
> in the cooking. For example, one time they were served baked potato with a
> ham dinner and that "ruined the meal." Okay, baked potato with ham wouldn't
> be my first choice, but it wouldn't ruin the meal for me. There have been
> similar comments, criticizing other meals they've been served and each time
> I've thought that the comment was overly critical.
>
> When we dine at their house, the vegetable is invariably green beans
> (frozen, never fresh) with fake bacon bits on top, and there are no spices
> or seasonings used on anything. Not even salt. No butter, either. Anywhere.
> If there is butter on the table, it is actually margarine mixed with some
> sort of oil and either sugar or corn syrup as she doesn't like hard butter,
> and it's too much trouble to take it out of the fridge ahead of time. I'll
> tell ya, it's a shock when you butter a roll and the "butter" is sweet. And
> this is the same person who makes "gravy" from flour and water, and I once
> saw her dress a salad with watered-down ketchup. And the many times we've
> eaten ham there (one of their favorites) it's not cooked, it's microwaved,
> and then she pours maple-flavored pancake syrup on top.

I am shuddering. Literally.

>
> When they've dined with us, they've eaten a number of things on their
> "banned" list, particularly the spices/herbs/seasonings/flavorings. And they
> rave about how good it is, and take second and third and fourth helpings.
> But if you ask them if they like oregano or rosemary or sage, for example,
> they'll say no. Which makes cooking for them somewhat of a challenge because
> I'm never sure if they really don't like something, or if it's just
> something they say they don't like because they don't have it at home.

Screw it. Cook how ever you like. They can always decline the next
invitation.

>
> And the list is getting longer. It seems like each time we eat with them,
> they tell us about more foods they don't like. It not as bad as it seems,
> though, as there are some things I know I can cook for them. But I wouldn't
> want to eat with them on a daily basis.

I probably wouldn't invite them back. They must be some awsome
conversationalists to have to put up with that...

There is such a thing as being a gracious guest. I have swallowed
whole some of the nastiest fermented fish goo-goop crap ordered by our
Chinese hosts at an ethnic restaurant in SF. I mean this stuff was
*foul*. And they probably thought I enjoyed it. I simply swallowed my
gag reflex repeatedly and held my nose. All the while with a smile on
my face!

-L.

> The stories of people who can be offered 10 desserts, turn them all down,
> and insist on going out for something different, amuse and horrify me.
> THAT'S fussy.


I agree. I think that's fussy. Sometimes I think my 10 year old daughter's
getting fussy. But then when her friends come over I realise she isn't bad
at all. Some of her friends only have a few things they will eat and I have
a terrible time trying to find something for them. I'm convinced it's
because they're given too many choices, and then if they don't eat it
straight away, an hour later they're hungry and given chips and junk. I
think some kids think if they don't totally *love* the food, they can eat
the junk instead. So many friends of my daughters just eat junk. I tell my
daughter, that she doesn't have to *love* everything I cook, but she has to
taste it, and eat it if she can. She can have a healthy replacement if she
really hates it, but no snacks later on. They have to learn from their
mistakes, a healthy meal now, is better than going hungry till breakfast
time. One of her friends hardly seems to eat anything, but then we had her
over for tea and had Mcdonalds. I couldn't believe how much junk she could
eat. And her mother lets her! She's only 9, she had a cheeseburger, a
quarter pounder, 2 large fries, a large coke, and an ice-cream sundae. My
daughter usually only has 3 nuggets (6 if she's really hungry), small fries,
small drink, a sundae if she's really hungry.

I'm a big believer in it's not how much they eat, but what they eat. Just
picking at bits of healthy balanced meal is much better than eating nothing
but junk.

Jen

Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
>
> The stories of people who can be offered 10 desserts, turn them all
> down, and insist on going out for something different, amuse and horrify
> me. THAT'S fussy.
>
>
> --Lia
>

When my sister-in-law and her extended family come to Colorado to ski
they stay with us the first and last night to be closer to the airport.
I usually make a big meal for everyone, keeping in mind her selectively
vegetarian 40 yr. old son.

The last time I made lasagna, one with meat, one meatless, a big salad,
and garlic bread. Her son-in-law ate hardly anything, then left to pick
someone up from the airport. I later learned that as soon as he left
the house he stopped at Taco Bell for dinner. Yes, he's out of the will.

:-(
gloria p

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:58:56 GMT,
(S'mee) rummaged among random neurons and opined:

>I was checking out Gloria's Sweet & Sour Cocktail Meatball recipe
>(which sounds excellent, btw; my sibling makes something very similar).
>Anyway, I figured I wouldn't bother to save the recipe because Miguel
>(DH) doesn't like meatballs of any kind. Or white sauce. Or coconut.
>Or most sandwiches. *Sigh*
>
>Now I'm sure at least 10 people are queuing up to tell me I should
>make him eat it anyway, because they certainly wouldn't put up with
>that. But I'm more interested in knowing what kind of fussiness
>the rest of you may have to deal with...

One step-daughter is so fussy that when the DH and I were first
married, I thought she was a vegetarian. She isn't.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:42:29 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

>One step-daughter is so fussy that when the DH and I were first
>married, I thought she was a vegetarian. She isn't.

My sister in law is like that. No red meat, no offal, no pork... Only
chicken. Oh, most veggies are out too. That leaves yogurt, chicken,
rice, potatoes, pasta, pizza and cookies. She's one of those
girls/women who eat hardly anything at the table, but still gain
weight... (yeah, it's called snacking)

Nathalie in Switzerland

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:55:05 +0100, Nathalie Chiva
> wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:42:29 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:
>
>>One step-daughter is so fussy that when the DH and I were first
>>married, I thought she was a vegetarian. She isn't.
>
>My sister in law is like that. No red meat, no offal, no pork... Only
>chicken. Oh, most veggies are out too. That leaves yogurt, chicken,
>rice, potatoes, pasta, pizza and cookies. She's one of those
>girls/women who eat hardly anything at the table, but still gain
>weight... (yeah, it's called snacking)

Oh and I forgot - no fish or anything "fishy" - of course! (sigh)

Nathalie in Switzerland

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

> One step-daughter is so fussy that when the DH and I were first
> married, I thought she was a vegetarian. She isn't.

We once had a great niece show up at Christmas. We were expecting the rest
of the family but did not know that she was in town and did not know that
she had become a vegan. While I was cooking and serving up dinner for 15,
my wife is running around the kitchen offering her things. She had to
examine every label to check ingredients. It turned out that her father had
some vegan food for her but forgot to bring it.

The next time I saw the great niece as a year and a half later. She was
sitting across the table from me at a brunch buffet. I saw her pack away
bacon, ham, eggs, lobster, shrimp, roast beef. It struck me strange that it
was a real PITA to have to run around in the midst of preparing a large
dinner to try to find vegan food for her, but at a buffet where there were
lots of meatless options and other people to cater to her, she could fill
herself up with meat.

It was on this list that someone suggested that being vegan was a form
of eating disorder. I've thought about it since and am becoming more
convinced that that's the case. Yours in one example. Here's another.


I was visiting with a group of friends. We all went out to eat at a
large deli-style restaurant. The vegan in the group saw split pea soup
on the menu, checked with the waitress that there was no ham in it,
ordered it and ate it. Normal, right? The next time we were at the
friend's house, the hostess, knowing that this particular guest was
peculiar about what she ate, offered her water. The guest wouldn't
drink it because it wasn't bottled water! This was water from a safe
municipal supply, but it wasn't good enough. I noticed the
inconsistency. Surely the soup at the restaurant used the same
municipal water, but at the restaurant it didn't matter. The next time
the hostess picked up some bottled water. No good. It wasn't the right
sort of bottled water.


If that isn't enough to convince you (the general you, not you in
particular, Dave) that it's not about the food, it's about the person
refusing the food, nothing will. There must be something grand about
watching people run around getting something special for you.


--Lia


Dave Smith wrote:
>
> We once had a great niece show up at Christmas. We were expecting the rest
> of the family but did not know that she was in town and did not know that
> she had become a vegan. While I was cooking and serving up dinner for 15,
> my wife is running around the kitchen offering her things. She had to
> examine every label to check ingredients. It turned out that her father had
> some vegan food for her but forgot to bring it.
>
> The next time I saw the great niece as a year and a half later. She was
> sitting across the table from me at a brunch buffet. I saw her pack away
> bacon, ham, eggs, lobster, shrimp, roast beef. It struck me strange that it
> was a real PITA to have to run around in the midst of preparing a large
> dinner to try to find vegan food for her, but at a buffet where there were
> lots of meatless options and other people to cater to her, she could fill
> herself up with meat.
>

Julia Altshuler wrote:

> It was on this list that someone suggested that being vegan was a form
> of eating disorder. I've thought about it since and am becoming more
> convinced that that's the case. Yours in one example. Here's another.
>
> I was visiting with a group of friends. We all went out to eat at a
> large deli-style restaurant. The vegan in the group saw split pea soup
> on the menu, checked with the waitress that there was no ham in it,
> ordered it and ate it. Normal, right? The next time we were at the
> friend's house, the hostess, knowing that this particular guest was
> peculiar about what she ate, offered her water. The guest wouldn't
> drink it because it wasn't bottled water! This was water from a safe
> municipal supply, but it wasn't good enough. I noticed the
> inconsistency. Surely the soup at the restaurant used the same
> municipal water, but at the restaurant it didn't matter. The next time
> the hostess picked up some bottled water. No good. It wasn't the right
> sort of bottled water.
>
> If that isn't enough to convince you (the general you, not you in
> particular, Dave) that it's not about the food, it's about the person
> refusing the food, nothing will. There must be something grand about
> watching people run around getting something special for you.

The vast majority of friends and relatives that have gone vegetarian or vegan have
gone back to eating meat. Personally, I don't care what sort of diet they
maintain, but because of my experience of their short lived fad diets, I am not
interested in catering to them. They are welcome to come to my house and share a
meal with us, but they are going to have to bring their own food if they don't
want to eat what we have.

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:40:53 -0500, Julia Altshuler
> wrote:

>It was on this list that someone suggested that being vegan was a form
>of eating disorder. I've thought about it since and am becoming more
>convinced that that's the case. Yours in one example. Here's another.
>
>
>I was visiting with a group of friends. We all went out to eat at a
>large deli-style restaurant. The vegan in the group saw split pea soup
>on the menu, checked with the waitress that there was no ham in it,
>ordered it and ate it. Normal, right? The next time we were at the
>friend's house, the hostess, knowing that this particular guest was
>peculiar about what she ate, offered her water. The guest wouldn't
>drink it because it wasn't bottled water! This was water from a safe
>municipal supply, but it wasn't good enough. I noticed the
>inconsistency. Surely the soup at the restaurant used the same
>municipal water, but at the restaurant it didn't matter. The next time
>the hostess picked up some bottled water. No good. It wasn't the right
>sort of bottled water.

I wish I could agree with your opinion, but I can't.

I have a very good friend who is vegan, and believe me, it is not
about the person, at least in his case. He is very concerned about
what is in our food supply, and in our water for instance. He became
vegan not because he disliked meat or anything, but because he felt it
was the healthiest way for him to eat. He started eating this way,
because he was noticing a lot of things about his body that he felt
were diet related. He says now, that he feels much, much better. He
gave himself a year to try it out and see if it made a difference.

I have discussed this with him, ad nauseum. He knows about my "foodie"
preferences. All his friends and I tease him relentlessly about his
meatless, vegan choices, and he takes it very good naturedly, and has
astounding research to back up his choices. And yes, he feels there
are some better choices of vegan products and other things in our food
supply.

Yes, he goes out to eat with folks, and yes he orders from the menu. I
have been with him when he was ordering dinner at a restaurant, and he
quizzes the waiter about what exactly is in the food, and how it is
cooked, etc. It is usually a very intelligent questioning.

He is a single father and he is not forcing his diet on his young
daughter. But he is teaching her to eat healthily. His girlfriend is
not vegan, but tends towards being vegetarian. Again, he doesn't try
to force his choice on her. And he is hoping to have a garden soon,
whereby he can grow most of his own veggies, and make sure they are
raised organically.

As far as bottled water, there is a lot of controversy as to whether
some bottled water is just tap water, at least some brands. And some
tap waters are absolutely horrible as far as what is in them.

Christine

Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:40:53 -0500, Julia Altshuler
> > wrote:
>
>
>>It was on this list that someone suggested that being vegan was a form
>>of eating disorder. I've thought about it since and am becoming more
>>convinced that that's the case. Yours in one example. Here's another.
>>
>>
>>I was visiting with a group of friends. We all went out to eat at a
>>large deli-style restaurant. The vegan in the group saw split pea soup
>>on the menu, checked with the waitress that there was no ham in it,
>>ordered it and ate it. Normal, right? The next time we were at the
>>friend's house, the hostess, knowing that this particular guest was
>>peculiar about what she ate, offered her water. The guest wouldn't
>>drink it because it wasn't bottled water! This was water from a safe
>>municipal supply, but it wasn't good enough. I noticed the
>>inconsistency. Surely the soup at the restaurant used the same
>>municipal water, but at the restaurant it didn't matter. The next time
>>the hostess picked up some bottled water. No good. It wasn't the right
>>sort of bottled water.
>
>
> I wish I could agree with your opinion, but I can't.
>
> I have a very good friend who is vegan, and believe me, it is not
> about the person, at least in his case. He is very concerned about
> what is in our food supply, and in our water for instance. He became
> vegan not because he disliked meat or anything, but because he felt it
> was the healthiest way for him to eat. He started eating this way,
> because he was noticing a lot of things about his body that he felt
> were diet related. He says now, that he feels much, much better. He
> gave himself a year to try it out and see if it made a difference.
>
> I have discussed this with him, ad nauseum. He knows about my "foodie"
> preferences. All his friends and I tease him relentlessly about his
> meatless, vegan choices, and he takes it very good naturedly, and has
> astounding research to back up his choices. And yes, he feels there
> are some better choices of vegan products and other things in our food
> supply.
>
> Yes, he goes out to eat with folks, and yes he orders from the menu. I
> have been with him when he was ordering dinner at a restaurant, and he
> quizzes the waiter about what exactly is in the food, and how it is
> cooked, etc. It is usually a very intelligent questioning.
>
> He is a single father and he is not forcing his diet on his young
> daughter. But he is teaching her to eat healthily. His girlfriend is
> not vegan, but tends towards being vegetarian. Again, he doesn't try
> to force his choice on her. And he is hoping to have a garden soon,
> whereby he can grow most of his own veggies, and make sure they are
> raised organically.
>
> As far as bottled water, there is a lot of controversy as to whether
> some bottled water is just tap water, at least some brands. And some
> tap waters are absolutely horrible as far as what is in them.
>
> Christine

I would venture to say that most bottled waters are just filtered tap
water.

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Christine Dabney wrote:

>
> I wish I could agree with your opinion, but I can't.
>
> I have a very good friend who is vegan, and believe me, it is not
> about the person, at least in his case.

Maybe not in his case. There may be the odd one that is sincere and will
stick to it. My problem is that, for most of them, it is a fad diet. It makes
no difference to me what kind of diet they follow. I just won't cater to it.

Christine Dabney > writes:

>On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:40:53 -0500, Julia Altshuler
> wrote:

>>peculiar about what she ate, offered her water. The guest wouldn't
>>drink it because it wasn't bottled water! This was water from a safe
>>municipal supply, but it wasn't good enough. I noticed the
>>inconsistency. Surely the soup at the restaurant used the same
>>municipal water, but at the restaurant it didn't matter.

The soup water was likely boiled during cooking. That makes a
difference.

>I wish I could agree with your opinion, but I can't.

>I have a very good friend who is vegan, and believe me, it is not
>about the person, at least in his case. He is very concerned about
>what is in our food supply, and in our water for instance.
[snip]
>As far as bottled water, there is a lot of controversy as to whether
>some bottled water is just tap water, at least some brands. And some
>tap waters are absolutely horrible as far as what is in them.

That seems perfectly reasonable to me. I've lived in too many places
to think that municipal water is safe just because it tastes like it.
When I'm on a trip and want water, but I'm in a new town or a gas
station convenience store, I'll buy bottled. No way I'm drinking what
comes out of a strange tap in a place that might not be clean, when I
can spend 99 cents on a bottle that's likely to be somewhat safer.
(Although I've read two good articles about Ozarka brand which make me
steer clear of it.)
Still, I get teased about buying bottled water, because some people
just have this notion that water is "free" and "clean" just because they
don't see chunks in it.

Stacia

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:40:53 -0500, Julia Altshuler
> wrote:

>It was on this list that someone suggested that being vegan was a form
>of eating disorder. I've thought about it since and am becoming more
>convinced that that's the case. Yours in one example. Here's another.
>
>
>I was visiting with a group of friends. We all went out to eat at a
>large deli-style restaurant. The vegan in the group saw split pea soup
>on the menu, checked with the waitress that there was no ham in it,
>ordered it and ate it. Normal, right? The next time we were at the
>friend's house, the hostess, knowing that this particular guest was
>peculiar about what she ate, offered her water. The guest wouldn't
>drink it because it wasn't bottled water! This was water from a safe
>municipal supply, but it wasn't good enough. I noticed the
>inconsistency. Surely the soup at the restaurant used the same
>municipal water, but at the restaurant it didn't matter. The next time
>the hostess picked up some bottled water. No good. It wasn't the right
>sort of bottled water.
>
>
>If that isn't enough to convince you (the general you, not you in
>particular, Dave) that it's not about the food, it's about the person
>refusing the food, nothing will. There must be something grand about
>watching people run around getting something special for you.
>
>
>--Lia
>
>
>Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> We once had a great niece show up at Christmas. We were expecting the rest
>> of the family but did not know that she was in town and did not know that
>> she had become a vegan. While I was cooking and serving up dinner for 15,
>> my wife is running around the kitchen offering her things. She had to
>> examine every label to check ingredients. It turned out that her father had
>> some vegan food for her but forgot to bring it.
>>
>> The next time I saw the great niece as a year and a half later. She was
>> sitting across the table from me at a brunch buffet. I saw her pack away
>> bacon, ham, eggs, lobster, shrimp, roast beef. It struck me strange that it
>> was a real PITA to have to run around in the midst of preparing a large
>> dinner to try to find vegan food for her, but at a buffet where there were
>> lots of meatless options and other people to cater to her, she could fill
>> herself up with meat.
>>

The wife of a friend of mine claims to be allergic to practically
everything... UNLESS it's in something she likes!.....
She'll speak tirelessly about how she's allergic to tomatoes.. and eat
spaghetti ,, pizza,, ,,, etc.. but if it's on her sandwich... you'll
have to throw the whole thing away because it might have a drop of
tomato juice on it.. Same thing for garlic... If something contains
garlic,,, including something real obvious as garlic toast.. she's
ok.... But refuses to eat something like chicken cooked in garlic
because she's allergic to it..

Orders from menu things that spell out what's included in the dish..
and waits till it's placed in front of her to then list the things she
can't have "touch" her food...and sends it back to be re done
She eats a LOT of spit...

All this just to be the center of attention..
You'd expect it from the younger crowd.. but she hasn't outgrown it..
she's now in the mid to late 30's..

Chuck (in SC)

Chuck wrote:

>
>
> Orders from menu things that spell out what's included in the dish..
> and waits till it's placed in front of her to then list the things she
> can't have "touch" her food...and sends it back to be re done
> She eats a LOT of spit...

Hasn't anyone told her what happens to food that is sent back for silly reasons :-)

>
> All this just to be the center of attention..
> You'd expect it from the younger crowd.. but she hasn't outgrown it..
> she's now in the mid to late 30's..

So people seem to think that everyone is there to wait on them personally.
My previously talked about niece, the hog, not the vegan, loves to send people on
errands. My father in law used to take the whole family to one of his clubs for a
Christmas family luncheon. He arranged for seating in a private room. It was a
brunch buffet and waiters brought beverages. The waiter came around to serve
coffee. The niece wants tea. He brings tea. There is cream and sugar on the table,
but she wants milk. He brings a pitcher of milk. She sends him for a glass of
juice. He comes back with her juice and she asks for a glass of milk. He brings the
milk and then she asked for a glass of water. I never saw the waiter again. He had
the good sense to see what was going on and buggered off. I didn't blame him, but I
was ticked off that we no longer had a waiter.

Dave Smith wrote:

> Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>
>
>>One step-daughter is so fussy that when the DH and I were first
>>married, I thought she was a vegetarian. She isn't.
>
>
> We once had a great niece show up at Christmas. We were expecting the rest
> of the family but did not know that she was in town and did not know that
> she had become a vegan. While I was cooking and serving up dinner for 15,
> my wife is running around the kitchen offering her things. She had to
> examine every label to check ingredients. It turned out that her father had
> some vegan food for her but forgot to bring it.
>
> The next time I saw the great niece as a year and a half later. She was
> sitting across the table from me at a brunch buffet. I saw her pack away
> bacon, ham, eggs, lobster, shrimp, roast beef. It struck me strange that it
> was a real PITA to have to run around in the midst of preparing a large
> dinner to try to find vegan food for her, but at a buffet where there were
> lots of meatless options and other people to cater to her, she could fill
> herself up with meat.
>
Lots of vegans don't keep it up. Too much work, not enough flavor seem
to be the reason.

S'mee wrote:
>
> I was checking out Gloria's Sweet & Sour Cocktail Meatball recipe
> (which sounds excellent, btw; my sibling makes something very similar).
> Anyway, I figured I wouldn't bother to save the recipe because Miguel
> (DH) doesn't like meatballs of any kind. Or white sauce. Or coconut.
> Or most sandwiches. *Sigh*
>
> Now I'm sure at least 10 people are queuing up to tell me I should
> make him eat it anyway, because they certainly wouldn't put up with
> that. But I'm more interested in knowing what kind of fussiness
> the rest of you may have to deal with...
>


Cooking for my mother, who doesn't like much that doesn't have a lot of
sugar in it LOL. Doesn't like many spices or herbs, definitely doesn't
like fish sauce, says she doesn't like a lot of meat but complains when
something vegetarian is cooked etc. So most meals are quite bland and
uninteresting.

>S'mee wrote:

>> But I'm more interested in knowing what kind of fussiness
>> the rest of you may have to deal with...

My husband will eat freakin' anything. I'm the fussy one.

One thing I can't figure out about my fussiness is that I don't like
freshwater fish. I love "seafood" (lobster, crab, shrimp, etc), and I
like sal****er fish (halibut, cod, grouper, snapper, et al), but
pickerel, trout, and other freshwater fish just all tastes really
"fishy" to me.

Anyone else have the same fish preferences?

Jo Anne

Jo Anne Slaven wrote:

> >> But I'm more interested in knowing what kind of fussiness
> >> the rest of you may have to deal with...
>
> My husband will eat freakin' anything. I'm the fussy one.

My wife has some food allergies to deal with, but if a guest at someone's
house will eat what is served. As far as dislikes..... she hates beets.
She will eat just about anything else is she has to.

> One thing I can't figure out about my fussiness is that I don't like
> freshwater fish. I love "seafood" (lobster, crab, shrimp, etc), and I
> like sal****er fish (halibut, cod, grouper, snapper, et al), but
> pickerel, trout, and other freshwater fish just all tastes really
> "fishy" to me.

I never did understand the "fishy" taste. I always associated with stuff
like Bluefish, a salt water fish, and smelt, a freshwater fish.

> Anyone else have the same fish preferences?

I like just about any kind of fish. I would prefer not to have to deal
with Whitefish because the last few times I had it were exercising in
extracting small fish bones from my mouth. I had an aversion to Mackerel
for a long time because I worked for a while as a trainer at a marine
park and started each day cutting up 600-700 pounds of Mackerel. I could
walk into a fish store and smell that stuff. I actually gave it a try
last year and it wasn't bad.

I am not crazy about octopus, but every time I have had it, it has been
tough and chewy. I didn't mind the taste. I once had it served with a
spicy sauce in a Molloccan restaurant and it was quite tasty.

In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> I am not crazy about octopus, but every time I have had it, it has been
> tough and chewy. I didn't mind the taste. I once had it served with a
> spicy sauce in a Molloccan restaurant and it was quite tasty.

IMHO the best Octopus I've eaten has been Sashimi...... ;-d
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

Jo Anne Slaven wrote:
>>S'mee wrote:
>
>>> But I'm more interested in knowing what kind of fussiness
>>> the rest of you may have to deal with...
>
> My husband will eat freakin' anything. I'm the fussy one.
>
> One thing I can't figure out about my fussiness is that I don't like
> freshwater fish. I love "seafood" (lobster, crab, shrimp, etc), and I
> like sal****er fish (halibut, cod, grouper, snapper, et al), but
> pickerel, trout, and other freshwater fish just all tastes really
> "fishy" to me.
>
> Anyone else have the same fish preferences?
>
> Jo Anne

I do! I love ocean fish and shellfish and sushi, but I dislike freshwater
fish. I really hate when people say "you just haven't had it done properly".
The only way i can see it being done properly is to have it sent to the moon.

--
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www.velvet-c.com
Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

The Bubbo wrote:

>
> I do! I love ocean fish and shellfish and sushi, but I dislike freshwater
> fish. I really hate when people say "you just haven't had it done properly".
> The only way i can see it being done properly is to have it sent to the moon.

There is a lot to that thing about having it done right. I used to hate fish. My
mother was a pretty good cook, except that she tended to overcook meat and fish.
It took me a while to learn to like fish, and even longer to learn how to cook
it. Even fresh water fish tastes good when properly cooked, though IMO it tastes
better if caught in cold water. Fish from warm water tends to taste muddy.

In article >,
says...
> >S'mee wrote:
>
> >> But I'm more interested in knowing what kind of fussiness
> >> the rest of you may have to deal with...
>
> My husband will eat freakin' anything. I'm the fussy one.
>
> One thing I can't figure out about my fussiness is that I don't like
> freshwater fish. I love "seafood" (lobster, crab, shrimp, etc), and I
> like sal****er fish (halibut, cod, grouper, snapper, et al), but
> pickerel, trout, and other freshwater fish just all tastes really
> "fishy" to me.
>
> Anyone else have the same fish preferences?
>
> Jo Anne
>

To me the freshwater fish taste bland no matter how I prepare.

My staples are salmon, tuna, and swordfish.

In article >,
Jo Anne Slaven > wrote:

> >S'mee wrote:
>
> >> But I'm more interested in knowing what kind of fussiness
> >> the rest of you may have to deal with...
>
> My husband will eat freakin' anything. I'm the fussy one.
>
> One thing I can't figure out about my fussiness is that I don't like
> freshwater fish. I love "seafood" (lobster, crab, shrimp, etc), and I
> like sal****er fish (halibut, cod, grouper, snapper, et al), but
> pickerel, trout, and other freshwater fish just all tastes really
> "fishy" to me.
>
> Anyone else have the same fish preferences?
>
> Jo Anne

If the fresh water fish tastes "fishy", it's not fresh. :-)

I always give any fish I buy, fresh or salt water, the "sniff" test
prior to buying it...

The only fish I really do not care for is Salmon. It has a strong,
metallic taste to me.

Altho' the more recent fresh water farmed salmon on the market is ok if
I poach or bake it. It tastes almost like trout.

I'm very adventurous in my feeding habits. While there are a few select
foods I just cannot stand, I'll still try nearly anything once.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 03:16:25 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> wrote:


>> One thing I can't figure out about my fussiness is that I don't like
>> freshwater fish. I love "seafood" (lobster, crab, shrimp, etc), and I
>> like sal****er fish (halibut, cod, grouper, snapper, et al), but
>> pickerel, trout, and other freshwater fish just all tastes really
>> "fishy" to me.
>>
>> Anyone else have the same fish preferences?
>>
>> Jo Anne
>
>If the fresh water fish tastes "fishy", it's not fresh. :-)

It's fresh. I'm talking about the fish DH goes out and catches.

Jo Anne

>>
>> One thing I can't figure out about my fussiness is that I don't like
>> freshwater fish. I love "seafood" (lobster, crab, shrimp, etc), and I
>> like sal****er fish (halibut, cod, grouper, snapper, et al), but
>> pickerel, trout, and other freshwater fish just all tastes really
>> "fishy" to me.
>>
>> Anyone else have the same fish preferences?
>>
>> Jo Anne
>
>If the fresh water fish tastes "fishy", it's not fresh. :-)
>

This reminds me of a seafood commercial that was popular several years ago.
Their selling point?;

"It doesn't taste like fish" !!

????
<rj>

fish preferences. I am the same as you. I don't like freshwater
fish and will not eat freshwater fish except for catfish fillets. I do
love salt-water fish (and crab, shrimp, crab, etc.) but, it seems to me,
that 98% of fresh-water fish tastes & smells "fishy" and has a weird
texture to it also. Carol

Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we
are here, we may as well dance!

S'mee wrote:
> I was checking out Gloria's Sweet & Sour Cocktail Meatball recipe
> (which sounds excellent, btw; my sibling makes something very similar).
> Anyway, I figured I wouldn't bother to save the recipe because Miguel
> (DH) doesn't like meatballs of any kind. Or white sauce. Or coconut.
> Or most sandwiches. *Sigh*
>
> Now I'm sure at least 10 people are queuing up to tell me I should
> make him eat it anyway, because they certainly wouldn't put up with
> that. But I'm more interested in knowing what kind of fussiness
> the rest of you may have to deal with...

About the only thing we butts heads about is celery - if I had my way I
would put it in everything, and DH hates it in everything except some
soups. He is finicky about preparation, but I have modified my
techniques to satisfy his pickiness (He's an Engineer; he likes
everything done on schedule, and perfectly...Don't ever marry one!!)
Oh, and he hates the way microwave popcorn smells so I make it
downstairs when he is up and upstairs when he is downstairs.

DS (almost 2) loves everything I have tried to feed him except cooked
peppers and carrots. The little guy loves curry (asks for curry sauce
to use as a dip), spicy foods, all veggies, seafood - everything!

I really feel pretty lucky. I don't think I would put up with too much
fussin' about food...

-L.

>. But I'm more interested in knowing what kind of fussiness
>the rest of you may have to deal with...

My wife's 35-year-old brother is digusting. He still doesn't eat ANY
vegetables, has to special-order everything (no onions, no pickles, no
sausage, no this, no that).

On Thanksgiving we made a delicious sage stuffing with apples and
sausage. His mommy brought along a pot of Stove Top Stuffing so that
her honey would have something he likes.

GAG!

My wife and I love to cook, we eat a large variety of things, and
expose our kids (7 and 8) to those things. Yet they remain fussy
eaters....to the point that more often than not, they go to bed hungry
because they simply refuse to eat what we make.

We finally got sick of either making 2 meals or making "kid" food.
Now we make good food that we consider normal fare, and if they don't
like it, too bad.

When I was a kid my mom NEVER made us something else like chicken
nuggets or fish sticks just because we "didn't like" what she made.

Side note: Our friends have the opposite problem. They raised their
kids to eat everything very early on, and now every time they go out
the kids want lobster and steamed mussels. :-)

wrote:

> Side note: Our friends have the opposite problem. They raised their
> kids to eat everything very early on, and now every time they go out
> the kids want lobster and steamed mussels. :-)

Now THAT sounds liek my kid. She's the one who always complains -
rightfully - that everything on the Kids menu is always fried. She
wants to know WHY they can't give her steamed shrimp or steamed clams
or grilled fish instead of battered and deep-fried. And I can't afford
the prices they charge for what she'd like to order - a porrtion of
steamed shrimp r clams is usually $10 compared to $3 or 4 for the kids
menu. So my aweseom kid picks the breading off most of what she orders,
or we compromise and I let her order an adult's appetizer and then kick
down my salad to her if she's not full. She's an expensive eater!