I never watched this show until I saw the tales of horror posted here.
I've recorded some shows with my DVR, and have been paging through them.

I don't recall other shows that are so extensively edited (badly). She's
making... I have no idea. Some sort of "crepe" (though how she can call
it that when using tortilla shells, which are far thicker). She dumps a
scrambled egg/bacon/cream mixture onto the shell, overfilling and
getting it all over the place and... when they show her going to fold
it, it's magically all perfectly in place.
Befo
<http://homepage.mac.com/scott_r/egg1.jpg>
After:
<http://homepage.mac.com/scott_r/egg2.jpg>

Yes, I know other shows edit; but I counted *so many* edits here! To the
point where they sometimes literally cut her off mid-word (and I'm not
even counting camera angle changes). More to the point, though, the
premise of this show is that these you make these dishes using already
prepared ingredients in order to save time. With all the edits, it's
made to seem more of a time savings than it really is. And there are odd
inconsistencies. Why does the thingy look nice and neat he
<http://homepage.mac.com/scott_r/egg3.jpg>
But in the next shot, which is *supposedly* seconds later as she puts a
second tortilla down:
<http://homepage.mac.com/scott_r/egg4.jpg>
the egg is oozing out of the first? What did they do to it? How much
time really passed?

Oh, and want to see how NOT to teach people to cut a croissant?
<http://homepage.mac.com/scott_r/stupidknifetrick.jpg>
Yes, she flips it over and finishes cutting away from her, and yes, most
of us have done it this way at some time or another, but for heaven's
sake, I'd have hoped her LEGAL TEAM would have said something.

Don't get me started on the croissant/poached egg open sandwich.

She made French toast stuffed with a cream cheese-strawberry jam
mixture. She put the mixture into a plastic bag, cut off a corner, and
squeezed it into a pocket cut into a thickly-sliced piece of bread.
Seems like extra work and a waste of a bag; why not just use a spoon?


Oh, and I didn't realize that Sandra Lee was this desperate for money
(bottom-right):
<http://homepage.mac.com/scott_r/onsale.jpg>
Do you pick up, or does she come to you?

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<http://www.thecoffeefaq.com/>

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 00:32:38 -0500, Scott wrote:

> I don't recall other shows that are so extensively edited (badly). She's
> making... I have no idea. Some sort of "crepe" (though how she can call
> it that when using tortilla shells, which are far thicker). She dumps a
> scrambled egg/bacon/cream mixture onto the shell, overfilling and
> getting it all over the place and... when they show her going to fold
> it, it's magically all perfectly in place.
> Befo
> <http://homepage.mac.com/scott_r/egg1.jpg>
> After:
> <http://homepage.mac.com/scott_r/egg2.jpg>

Those things aren't tortilla "shells", they are flour tortillas
(period) and we call this concoction a breakfast burrito. Guess her
writers are from back East, obviously they didn't have a clue.
--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

sf wrote:

> Those things aren't tortilla "shells", they are flour tortillas
> (period) and we call this concoction a breakfast burrito. Guess her
> writers are from back East, obviously they didn't have a clue.
> --
>
> Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

I was at the market the other day and this woman says to her husband
"I'm looking for some *tor-till-ee-ah bread*....ohmygawd. How can anyone
live in this day and age without hearing the proper pronunciation of
this word?? She was a born and raised local down south, so no excuses to
be made about being a foreign word and all that.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:57:29 -0500, Goomba38 >
wrote:

>sf wrote:
>
>> Those things aren't tortilla "shells", they are flour tortillas
>> (period) and we call this concoction a breakfast burrito. Guess her
>> writers are from back East, obviously they didn't have a clue.
>> --
>>
>> Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.
>
>I was at the market the other day and this woman says to her husband
>"I'm looking for some *tor-till-ee-ah bread*....ohmygawd. How can anyone
>live in this day and age without hearing the proper pronunciation of
>this word?? She was a born and raised local down south, so no excuses to
>be made about being a foreign word and all that.

Like the famous British artist I heard about who ordered fajitas in a
Houston restaurant. Only he called them "fah-jeye-tahs." Nobody
corrected him.


modom

modom wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:57:29 -0500, Goomba38 >
> wrote:
>
> >sf wrote:
> >
> >> Those things aren't tortilla "shells", they are flour tortillas
> >> (period) and we call this concoction a breakfast burrito. Guess her
> >> writers are from back East, obviously they didn't have a clue.
> >> --
> >>
> >> Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.
> >
> >I was at the market the other day and this woman says to her husband
> >"I'm looking for some *tor-till-ee-ah bread*....ohmygawd. How can anyone
> >live in this day and age without hearing the proper pronunciation of
> >this word?? She was a born and raised local down south, so no excuses to
> >be made about being a foreign word and all that.
>
> Like the famous British artist I heard about who ordered fajitas in a
> Houston restaurant. Only he called them "fah-jeye-tahs." Nobody
> corrected him.
>
>
> modom

Yeah, but the Brits say "al-u-min-ium," and spell it like that, I
believe. We can forgive them on the Mexican stuff.

N.

On 2006-01-13, Nancy1 > wrote:

> Yeah, but the Brits say "al-u-min-ium," and spell it like that, I
> believe. We can forgive them on the Mexican stuff.

Something to think about while you're donning your AFDB:

"** HISTORICAL FOOTNOTE: Aluminum was originally named "alumium" by
Sir Humphry Davy, who later changed it to "aluminum" (perhaps in an
attempt to make it more Latinized since alumen is Latin for alum, the
aluminum compound that the name is derived from). The British (and
allied English speakers) shortly thereafter changed the name once
more, this time to "aluminium" so that it would again match the
pattern of most other elements (helium, sodium, etc.), while the North
Americans eventually decided to keep the second, slightly more
traditional name. I predict that North Americans will adopt the more
regular "-ium" spelling by the year 2050, prompting the British to
start calling it "alumininium". At that point debate can begin on
changing "platinum" to "platinium"."

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

nb

Goomba38 wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>> Those things aren't tortilla "shells", they are flour tortillas
>> (period) and we call this concoction a breakfast burrito. Guess her
>> writers are from back East, obviously they didn't have a clue.
>> --
>>
>> Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.
>
> I was at the market the other day and this woman says to her husband
> "I'm looking for some *tor-till-ee-ah bread*....ohmygawd. How can anyone
> live in this day and age without hearing the proper pronunciation of
> this word?? She was a born and raised local down south, so no excuses to
> be made about being a foreign word and all that.

I was at a grocery store in far northern minnesota this summer and this poor
lady was looking for "burrito wrappers" and she hadn't a clue and the girl
behind the counter was just as confused (though I suspect her issue was
probably more genetic and less about not knowing what a tortilla was). These
two brought situational comedy to all new levels. I finally had to step in and
point her in the right direction, I had reservations at a boundary waters
entrance site and did not want to be late.

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Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

The Bubbo wrote:

> I was at a grocery store in far northern minnesota this summer and this poor
> lady was looking for "burrito wrappers" and she hadn't a clue and the girl
> behind the counter was just as confused (though I suspect her issue was
> probably more genetic and less about not knowing what a tortilla was). These
> two brought situational comedy to all new levels. I finally had to step in and
> point her in the right direction, I had reservations at a boundary waters
> entrance site and did not want to be late.

Short version - I was looking for tortillas in a rural Mississippi
grocery store. Now, I live in Houston so you just pop over to the
bakery section and they're making 'em fresh. If the store doesn't make
them, they're in with the bread. When I couldn't find them, I asked an
employee. She told me they were in the dairy case. Um, ok.

--Charlene


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scholarship, which repeatedly acknowledges the theft. -- Bayan, Rick;
The Cynic's Dictionary, 2002


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"Charlene Charette" > wrote

> Short version - I was looking for tortillas in a rural Mississippi grocery
> store. Now, I live in Houston so you just pop over to the bakery section
> and they're making 'em fresh. If the store doesn't make them, they're in
> with the bread. When I couldn't find them, I asked an employee. She told
> me they were in the dairy case. Um, ok.

Seems they must go rancid if not kept cool, I always find them by
the cheese/yogurt stuff in the refrigerated case. Just lately I have
seen shelf stable toritillas, those were made by Mission.

nancy

Charlene Charette wrote:
> The Bubbo wrote:
>
>> I was at a grocery store in far northern minnesota this summer and this
poor
>> lady was looking for "burrito wrappers" and she hadn't a clue and the girl
>> behind the counter was just as confused (though I suspect her issue was
>> probably more genetic and less about not knowing what a tortilla was).
These
>> two brought situational comedy to all new levels. I finally had to step in
and
>> point her in the right direction, I had reservations at a boundary waters
>> entrance site and did not want to be late.
>
> Short version - I was looking for tortillas in a rural Mississippi
> grocery store. Now, I live in Houston so you just pop over to the
> bakery section and they're making 'em fresh. If the store doesn't make
> them, they're in with the bread. When I couldn't find them, I asked an
> employee. She told me they were in the dairy case. Um, ok.
>
> --Charlene
>
>

yeah, they keep them in the dairy case here too. I think they need to keep
them cold. I keep mine in the fridge until I make my cheese and chocolate chip
quesadillas

--
..:Heather:.
www.velvet-c.com
Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

The Bubbo wrote:

> Charlene Charette wrote:

> > Short version - I was looking for tortillas in a rural Mississippi
> > grocery store. Now, I live in Houston so you just pop over to the
> > bakery section and they're making 'em fresh. If the store doesn't
> > make them, they're in with the bread. When I couldn't find them, I
> > asked an employee. She told me they were in the dairy case. Um,
> > ok.

> yeah, they keep them in the dairy case here too. I think they need to
> keep them cold. I keep mine in the fridge until I make my cheese and
> chocolate chip quesadillas


They stock in dairy and some on the shelves with Mexican food. I
suspect the latter are chock full of preservatives. I usually buy
tortillas at the Mexican grocery anyway, as they are much cheaper there.


Brian

--
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won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Charlene Charette wrote:
> The Bubbo wrote:
>
> > I was at a grocery store in far northern minnesota this summer and this poor
> > lady was looking for "burrito wrappers" and she hadn't a clue and the girl
> > behind the counter was just as confused (though I suspect her issue was
> > probably more genetic and less about not knowing what a tortilla was). These
> > two brought situational comedy to all new levels. I finally had to step in and
> > point her in the right direction, I had reservations at a boundary waters
> > entrance site and did not want to be late.
>
> Short version - I was looking for tortillas in a rural Mississippi
> grocery store. Now, I live in Houston so you just pop over to the
> bakery section and they're making 'em fresh. If the store doesn't make
> them, they're in with the bread. When I couldn't find them, I asked an
> employee. She told me they were in the dairy case. Um, ok.
>
> --Charlene
>
My grocery store carries tortillas (the commercial, pre-packaged tyle,
that's all you can get in VA. Bot do I miss NM tortillas!) in 3 places
- there is one kind that's kinda close to the bread products, halfway
between the bread section and the service deli counter. They're in one
of those bins that stands alone in the middle of the aisle. Those are a
thin, flimsy brand. Then there are the better ones, a little thicker
and more home-style, with the INternational Foods selection of Mexican
products in the specialty aisle. Then there are some in the dairy case,
by the cheeses and cream cheese.

I can'rt believe how much I pay for a half-assed package of flimsy
flour tortillas. Somehow the premade corn ones seem to be much more
consistent in quality. (Those are all by the specialty foods, BTW.)
>
> --
> Plagiarism: Failure to adorn stolen ideas with footnotes, as opposed to
> scholarship, which repeatedly acknowledges the theft. -- Bayan, Rick;
> The Cynic's Dictionary, 2002
>
>
> email perronnelle at earthlink . net

Nancy1 wrote:

> Yeah, but the Brits say "al-u-min-ium," and spell it like that, I
> believe. We can forgive them on the Mexican stuff.

Uh, okay. It's not Mexican per se, but the Brits pronounce jaguar as
"jag-yoo-ar," which drives me absolutely NUTS!

<more irritating then the locals who say "jag-wire"... at least they
have the correct number of syllables>

pennyaline > wrote in
:

> <more irritating then the locals who say "jag-wire"... at least they
> have the correct number of syllables>

Or nucular when they are president of the United States.

--

"Et nunc reges intelligite erudmini, qui judicatis terram."

"Rancor is an outpouring of a feeling of inferiority."

Jose Ortega Y Gasset

All Jaguar people pronounce it: Jag-you-ar...[yes,even the
manufacturer]
pennyaline wrote:
> Nancy1 wrote:
>
> > Yeah, but the Brits say "al-u-min-ium," and spell it like that, I
> > believe. We can forgive them on the Mexican stuff.
>
> Uh, okay. It's not Mexican per se, but the Brits pronounce jaguar as
> "jag-yoo-ar," which drives me absolutely NUTS!
>
> <more irritating then the locals who say "jag-wire"... at least they
> have the correct number of syllables>

Default User wrote:

> The Bubbo wrote:
>
>
>>Charlene Charette wrote:
>
>
>>>Short version - I was looking for tortillas in a rural Mississippi
>>>grocery store. Now, I live in Houston so you just pop over to the
>>>bakery section and they're making 'em fresh. If the store doesn't
>>>make them, they're in with the bread. When I couldn't find them, I
>>>asked an employee. She told me they were in the dairy case. Um,
>>>ok.
>
>
>>yeah, they keep them in the dairy case here too. I think they need to
>>keep them cold. I keep mine in the fridge until I make my cheese and
>>chocolate chip quesadillas
>
>
>
> They stock in dairy and some on the shelves with Mexican food. I
> suspect the latter are chock full of preservatives. I usually buy
> tortillas at the Mexican grocery anyway, as they are much cheaper there.
>
>
> Brian
>

They probably don't stay on the shelves long enough here to bother with
refrigeration.

--Charlene


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scholarship, which repeatedly acknowledges the theft. -- Bayan, Rick;
The Cynic's Dictionary, 2002


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bobemeril wrote:
> All Jaguar people pronounce it: Jag-you-ar...[yes,even the
> manufacturer]

Which is my point precisely! You assumed I was talking solely about the
British-made car. But I wasn't. I wrote "jaguar." As we both pointed
out, Brits call it jag-yoo-ar, a pronunciation otherwise foreign to the
USian ear and used in the US by ex-pats or poseurs. In that vein, YES!
"Even the manufacturer" pronounces the name of the car jag-yoo-ar, as it
would since it is a British company. Show the car to the USian in the
street and ask him or her to tell you what it is, and you will likely
hear jag-waar or jag-wire. USian Jaguar owners will use US
pronunciation, unless they are, as covered before, hopelessly affected.

But how do Brits pronounce the name of the Central and South American
wild cat? Ah ha! Just as I suspected! They say jag-yoo-ar! What does the
manufacturer call it, in this instance?!

<in its *truly* native setting, it's a yaa-waar>

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:04:10 -0700, pennyaline wrote:

> bobemeril wrote:
> > All Jaguar people pronounce it: Jag-you-ar...[yes,even the
> > manufacturer]
>
> Which is my point precisely! You assumed I was talking solely about the
> British-made car. But I wasn't. I wrote "jaguar." As we both pointed
> out, Brits call it jag-yoo-ar, a pronunciation otherwise foreign to the
> USian ear and used in the US by ex-pats or poseurs. In that vein, YES!
> "Even the manufacturer" pronounces the name of the car jag-yoo-ar, as it
> would since it is a British company. Show the car to the USian in the
> street and ask him or her to tell you what it is, and you will likely
> hear jag-waar or jag-wire. USian Jaguar owners will use US
> pronunciation, unless they are, as covered before, hopelessly affected.
>
> But how do Brits pronounce the name of the Central and South American
> wild cat? Ah ha! Just as I suspected! They say jag-yoo-ar! What does the
> manufacturer call it, in this instance?!
>
> <in its *truly* native setting, it's a yaa-waar>

FYI:
The British don't own anything...
BMW owns Bently and Ford owns Jaguar
http://www.ford.com/en/company/about/brands/jaguar.htm
which makes a 3 syllable pronounciation of that word just plain wrong!




--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

sf wrote:
> pennyaline wrote:
>> Which is my point precisely! You assumed I was talking solely about the
>> British-made car. But I wasn't. I wrote "jaguar." As we both pointed
>> out, Brits call it jag-yoo-ar, a pronunciation otherwise foreign to the
>> USian ear and used in the US by ex-pats or poseurs. In that vein, YES!
>> "Even the manufacturer" pronounces the name of the car jag-yoo-ar, as it
>> would since it is a British company. Show the car to the USian in the
>> street and ask him or her to tell you what it is, and you will likely
>> hear jag-waar or jag-wire. USian Jaguar owners will use US
>> pronunciation, unless they are, as covered before, hopelessly affected.
>>
>> But how do Brits pronounce the name of the Central and South American
>> wild cat? Ah ha! Just as I suspected! They say jag-yoo-ar! What does the
>> manufacturer call it, in this instance?!
>>
>> <in its *truly* native setting, it's a yaa-waar>
>
> FYI:
> The British don't own anything...
> BMW owns Bently and Ford owns Jaguar
> http://www.ford.com/en/company/about/brands/jaguar.htm
> which makes a 3 syllable pronounciation of that word just plain wrong!
>
>

Did I say the British "own" anything?

<not since they lost India, baby!>

It's "jag-u-ar". It's British. It sounds best that way.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?jaguar01.wav=jaguar

"nancree" > wrote

> It's "jag-u-ar". It's British. It sounds best that way.

Only if said by British people or Madonna.

nancy

It's "jag-u-ar"--sounds better that way--and it's correct, too.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?jaguar01.wav=jaguar

Only if said by British people or Madonna.

nancy
-------------------
<smile>

nancree wrote:
> It's "jag-u-ar"--sounds better that way--and it's correct, too.
>
> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?jaguar01.wav=jaguar
>

Returning to the original pronunciation observation in this thread:
[to paraphrase] It's "al-yoo-min-ee-um" -- and it's correct, too... in
the UK. But not in the US, which was the point all along.

On 17 Jan 2006 18:05:24 -0800, nancree wrote:

>It's "jag-u-ar". It's British. It sounds best that way.
>
>http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?jaguar01.wav=jaguar

It's British?
I thought that a jaguar was a new world animal.
And the name is probably Spanish in origin, or the approximation of
the native peoples word.

Pan Ohco
I would like to see the bottom of my monitor, but I have cats.