In article , pennyaline at
wrote on 1/11/06 17:59:

> Dieter Zakas wrote:
>> In article ,
>> OmManiPadmeOmelet at wrote on 1/10/06 22:32:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> Dieter Zakas > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, guys!
>>>>
>>>> I seem to recall an article not long ago about research that claims that
>>>> nonstick materials used in cookware can flake off (microscopic pieces, mind
>>>> you), be carried over to the food, and be ingested, and can/will ultimately
>>>> cause Alzheimer's or other forms of dementia. This also applied to aluminum
>>>> cookware.
>>>>
>>>> My girlfriend Kelly strongly advocates that I get rid of pots and pans made
>>>> of or with those materials, and get stainless steel or cast iron. My
>>>> question is, just what is the current verdict on that?
>>>>
>>>> Dieter Zakas
>>> Like anything else, it's a matter of opinion.
>>> If you do some googling, you will find websites with opinions working
>>> both sides of the concept.
>>
>> Opinions don't help. Sound scientific research does.
>
> Then stop sniffing around this newsgroup for answers you wont accept
> anyway. Talk to some researchers (though you probably wont believe them,
> either) or resign yourself to the fact that hard science has gray areas.
>
> <as one of my excellent chemistry teachers put it to us: the Laws of
> Science just haven't been disproved yet>

At the risk of sounding defensive, I'm not, as you put it, "sniffing around
this newsgroup for answers" I "won't accept." I was wondering whether anyone
knew of anything "concrete" regarding the topic of my post, and what its
current verdict is.

I accept the fact that science has gray areas, and that nothing is certain;
however, science regularly proves and disproves research, and this is no
exception. My question is, how many of us on this NG are scientists, and
qualified to comment on this (alleged) teflon-aluminum-dementia link?
Opinions are one thing, but they don't answer the question of the question I
originally posed.

Dieter Zakas
--
Good, better, best; never let it rest, until your good is better and your
better is best. (Billy Cox)

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 00:14:38 -0500, Dieter Zakas
> wrote:

>In article , pennyaline at
wrote on 1/11/06 17:59:
>
>> Dieter Zakas wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet at wrote on 1/10/06 22:32:
>>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>> Dieter Zakas > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, guys!
>>>>>
>>>>> I seem to recall an article not long ago about research that claims that
>>>>> nonstick materials used in cookware can flake off (microscopic pieces, mind
>>>>> you), be carried over to the food, and be ingested, and can/will ultimately
>>>>> cause Alzheimer's or other forms of dementia. This also applied to aluminum
>>>>> cookware.
>>>>>
>>>>> My girlfriend Kelly strongly advocates that I get rid of pots and pans made
>>>>> of or with those materials, and get stainless steel or cast iron. My
>>>>> question is, just what is the current verdict on that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dieter Zakas
>>>> Like anything else, it's a matter of opinion.
>>>> If you do some googling, you will find websites with opinions working
>>>> both sides of the concept.
>>>
>>> Opinions don't help. Sound scientific research does.
>>
>> Then stop sniffing around this newsgroup for answers you wont accept
>> anyway. Talk to some researchers (though you probably wont believe them,
>> either) or resign yourself to the fact that hard science has gray areas.
>>
>> <as one of my excellent chemistry teachers put it to us: the Laws of
>> Science just haven't been disproved yet>
>
>At the risk of sounding defensive, I'm not, as you put it, "sniffing around
>this newsgroup for answers" I "won't accept." I was wondering whether anyone
>knew of anything "concrete" regarding the topic of my post, and what its
>current verdict is.
>
>I accept the fact that science has gray areas, and that nothing is certain;
>however, science regularly proves and disproves research, and this is no
>exception. My question is, how many of us on this NG are scientists, and
>qualified to comment on this (alleged) teflon-aluminum-dementia link?
>Opinions are one thing, but they don't answer the question of the question I
>originally posed.
>
>Dieter Zakas

Have you checked the web sites of the Alzheimer's Association or
places like the National Institute of Health?
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974

Dieter Zakas wrote:
> In article , pennyaline at
> wrote on 1/11/06 17:59:
>
> > Dieter Zakas wrote:
> >> In article ,
> >> OmManiPadmeOmelet at wrote on 1/10/06 22:32:
> >>
> >>> In article >,
> >>> Dieter Zakas > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi, guys!
> >>>>
> >>>> I seem to recall an article not long ago about research that claims that
> >>>> nonstick materials used in cookware can flake off (microscopic pieces, mind
> >>>> you), be carried over to the food, and be ingested, and can/will ultimately
> >>>> cause Alzheimer's or other forms of dementia. This also applied to aluminum
> >>>> cookware.
> >>>>
> >>>> My girlfriend Kelly strongly advocates that I get rid of pots and pans made
> >>>> of or with those materials, and get stainless steel or cast iron. My
> >>>> question is, just what is the current verdict on that?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dieter Zakas
> >>> Like anything else, it's a matter of opinion.
> >>> If you do some googling, you will find websites with opinions working
> >>> both sides of the concept.
> >>
> >> Opinions don't help. Sound scientific research does.
> >
> > Then stop sniffing around this newsgroup for answers you wont accept
> > anyway. Talk to some researchers (though you probably wont believe them,
> > either) or resign yourself to the fact that hard science has gray areas.
> >
> > <as one of my excellent chemistry teachers put it to us: the Laws of
> > Science just haven't been disproved yet>
>
> At the risk of sounding defensive, I'm not, as you put it, "sniffing around
> this newsgroup for answers" I "won't accept." I was wondering whether anyone
> knew of anything "concrete" regarding the topic of my post, and what its
> current verdict is.
>
> I accept the fact that science has gray areas, and that nothing is certain;
> however, science regularly proves and disproves research, and this is no
> exception. My question is, how many of us on this NG are scientists, and
> qualified to comment on this (alleged) teflon-aluminum-dementia link?
> Opinions are one thing, but they don't answer the question of the question I
> originally posed.
>
> Dieter Zakas
> --
> Good, better, best; never let it rest, until your good is better and your
> better is best. (Billy Cox)
I am not a scientist, but I work with them designing experiments and
analyzing data (as a Scientic Programmer). What I can say is from the
studies that I've looked at is that the ones predicting less risk are
better grounded than those that give more risk.

"Dieter Zakas" > wrote in message
...
>
> At the risk of sounding defensive, I'm not, as you put it, "sniffing
> around
> this newsgroup for answers" I "won't accept." I was wondering whether
> anyone
> knew of anything "concrete" regarding the topic of my post, and what its
> current verdict is.
>
> I accept the fact that science has gray areas, and that nothing is
> certain;
> however, science regularly proves and disproves research, and this is no
> exception. My question is, how many of us on this NG are scientists, and
> qualified to comment on this (alleged) teflon-aluminum-dementia link?
> Opinions are one thing, but they don't answer the question of the question
> I
> originally posed.
>
> Dieter Zakas
> --

I am a scientist and responded with definitive information about this
question. Did you not read it?


--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths page at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

Peter Aitken wrote:
> "Dieter Zakas" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > At the risk of sounding defensive, I'm not, as you put it, "sniffing
> > around
> > this newsgroup for answers" I "won't accept." I was wondering whether
> > anyone
> > knew of anything "concrete" regarding the topic of my post, and what its
> > current verdict is.
> >
> > I accept the fact that science has gray areas, and that nothing is
> > certain;
> > however, science regularly proves and disproves research, and this is no
> > exception. My question is, how many of us on this NG are scientists, and
> > qualified to comment on this (alleged) teflon-aluminum-dementia link?
> > Opinions are one thing, but they don't answer the question of the question
> > I
> > originally posed.
> >
> > Dieter Zakas
> > --
>
> I am a scientist and responded with definitive information about this
> question. Did you not read it?
>
"Science" is currently out of favor with the American citizenry.
Many don't have room in their small minds for both faith, and believing
that the best way to know empirical reality is to try to prove your own
assumptions incorrect.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken
> Visit my recipe and kitchen myths page at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

Thanks for your kitchen myths page.

--Bryan http://MySpace.com/BoboBonobo