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I just wanted to mention that I recently purchased (on sale fortunately) a
Wusthof Classic santuko knife. It is fabulous! It is now my favorite knife! I was skeptical, but I am now a believer! What a knife! Charliam |
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Charles Gifford wrote on 07 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking
> I just wanted to mention that I recently purchased (on sale > fortunately) a Wusthof Classic santuko knife. It is fabulous! It is > now my favorite knife! I was skeptical, but I am now a believer! > What a knife! > > Charliam > > > I still prefer a chinese cleaver for most tasks. -- The eyes are the mirrors.... But the ears...Ah the ears. The ears keep the hat up. |
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![]() "Mr Libido Incognito" > wrote in message ... > Charles Gifford wrote on 07 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking > >> I just wanted to mention that I recently purchased (on sale >> fortunately) a Wusthof Classic santuko knife. It is fabulous! It is >> now my favorite knife! I was skeptical, but I am now a believer! >> What a knife! >> >> Charliam >> > > I still prefer a chinese cleaver for most tasks. > I've posted this previously; I get a kick out of this knife. It is still my favorite knife. I use it everyday I cook. I should replace it before the handle falls off in my hand! http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com...aneseknife.htm I just can't get enough of telling people what a wonderful knife this is. I still remember the woman who sold it to me. She said, it is extremely sharp and don't catch your fingers on the back of it. I've cut myself once in all these years, and then only slightly. It is a dull knife that will cut - but we all know that! Dee Dee |
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![]() Dee Randall wrote: > > It is still my favorite knife. > I use it everyday I cook. > I should replace it before the > handle falls off in my hand! > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com...aneseknife.htm > I just can't get enough of telling people what a wonderful knife this is. > >Dee Dee = Disgusting Dee Sheesh, what a corroded piece of crap... why is the blade all rusty and pitted. Aren't you embarrassed showing the world what a negligent slob you are. Don't you realize knives with cracked handles spread disease... if that's your best knife one can only imagine the ghetto you call a kitchen. I'd hope you take better care of the crack in your crotch, but if your post is an example I doubt it. And some of yoose got the nerve to ask why I don't attend cook-ins... I've seen the pictures. Sheldon |
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Sheldon wrote:
> Dee Randall wrote: > >>It is still my favorite knife. >>I use it everyday I cook. >>I should replace it before the >>handle falls off in my hand! >>http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com...aneseknife.htm >>I just can't get enough of telling people what a wonderful knife this is. >> >>Dee Dee = Disgusting Dee > > > Sheesh, what a corroded piece of crap... why is the blade all rusty and > pitted. > Aren't you embarrassed showing the world what a negligent slob you are. > Don't you realize knives with cracked handles spread disease... if > that's your best knife one can only imagine the ghetto you call a > kitchen. I'd hope you take better care of the crack in your crotch, > but if your post is an example I doubt it. > > And some of yoose got the nerve to ask why I don't attend cook-ins... > I've seen the pictures. > > Sheldon > Actually, we're all lucky you don't attend, with that foul mouth of yours everyone's health would be at risk. jim |
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![]() "JimLane" > wrote in message ... > Sheldon wrote: >> Dee Randall wrote: >> >>>It is still my favorite knife. >>>I use it everyday I cook. >>>I should replace it before the >>>handle falls off in my hand! >>>http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com...aneseknife.htm >>>I just can't get enough of telling people what a wonderful knife this is. >>> >>>Dee Dee = Disgusting Dee >> >> >> Sheesh, what a corroded piece of crap... why is the blade all rusty and >> pitted. >> Aren't you embarrassed showing the world what a negligent slob you are. >> Don't you realize knives with cracked handles spread disease... if >> that's your best knife one can only imagine the ghetto you call a >> kitchen. I'd hope you take better care of the crack in your crotch, >> but if your post is an example I doubt it. >> >> And some of yoose got the nerve to ask why I don't attend cook-ins... >> I've seen the pictures. >> >> Sheldon >> > > Actually, we're all lucky you don't attend, with that foul mouth of yours > everyone's health would be at risk. > > > jim I guess there is no way of 'totally' killfiling a poster. If anyone knows how, let me know. I think it is probably good advice about the handle being probably too dirty to keep around preparing food, although I am diligent about cleaning the knife after each use, the handle cannot be cleaned with soap and water, although meat has never touched this knife, I think there are some pretty nasty germs on vegetables. Dee Dee |
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Mr Libido Incognito > wrote: > Charles Gifford wrote on 07 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking > > > I just wanted to mention that I recently purchased (on sale > > fortunately) a Wusthof Classic santuko knife. It is fabulous! It is > > now my favorite knife! I was skeptical, but I am now a believer! > > What a knife! > > > > Charliam > > > > > > > > I still prefer a chinese cleaver for most tasks. Now that I finally own one, I have to agree. My second favorite knife is a small Eagle Claw fillet knife. -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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![]() "Mr Libido Incognito" > wrote in message ... > Charles Gifford wrote on 07 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking > > > I just wanted to mention that I recently purchased (on sale > > fortunately) a Wusthof Classic santuko knife. It is fabulous! It is > > now my favorite knife! I was skeptical, but I am now a believer! > > What a knife! > > > > Charliam > > > > > > > > I still prefer a chinese cleaver for most tasks. I have a couple of Chinese cleavers but have never gotten used to them. I have a third cleaver: a heavy butcher's cleaver that is great for things like dismantling chickens, ribs and such. But for most things I liked my medium-sized serrated knife and a chef's knife. I haven't used either one since I got my santuko. Really super knife! Charliam |
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![]() "Charles Gifford" > wrote in message ink.net... snip I haven't used either one > since I got my santuko. Really super knife! > > Charliam By it's nature, is the santuko a lighter-weight knife? The non-big-name brands ones that I have held have seemed to light and thin for the body size. They're been balanced, but didn't feel right in my hand--they felt like they would be dangerous because the blade was thin and the whole knife lighter weight. For instance, I really love my 8-inch Chef's knife as there is weight that I can feel pressing against the heel of my hand, but the blade is heavy enough, thick enough, that it feels right. It doesn't feel like it would snap or skid sideways and the santuko knives that I hefted did. |
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In article >, Janet Bostwick
> wrote: > "Charles Gifford" > wrote in message > ink.net... > snip > I haven't used either one > > since I got my santuko. Really super knife! > > > > Charliam > By it's nature, is the santuko a lighter-weight knife? The non-big-name > brands ones that I have held have seemed to light and thin for the body > size. They're been balanced, but didn't feel right in my hand--they felt > like they would be dangerous because the blade was thin and the whole knife > lighter weight. For instance, I really love my 8-inch Chef's knife as there > is weight that I can feel pressing against the heel of my hand, but the > blade is heavy enough, thick enough, that it feels right. It doesn't feel > like it would snap or skid sideways and the santuko knives that I hefted > did. > > The non-big-name brands probably are lighter and won't match the balance of a big name Chef's knife. But a big-name Santuko will probably feel the same. I use my Shun Santuko for everything but hacking which probably wouldn't hurt it; but the knife just feels like a precision instrument. Unfortunately it's also priced like one. Which probably makes me respect it more . . for fear of having to replace it. |
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On 7-Aug-2005, "Janet Bostwick" > wrote:
> "Charles Gifford" > wrote in message > ink.net... > snip > I haven't used either one > > since I got my santuko. Really super knife! > > > > Charliam > By it's nature, is the santuko a lighter-weight knife? The non-big-name > brands ones that I have held have seemed to light and thin for the body > size. They're been balanced, but didn't feel right in my hand--they felt > like they would be dangerous because the blade was thin and the whole knife > lighter weight. For instance, I really love my 8-inch Chef's knife as there > is weight that I can feel pressing against the heel of my hand, but the > blade is heavy enough, thick enough, that it feels right. It doesn't feel > like it would snap or skid sideways and the santuko knives that I hefted > did. Both Wustof and Henckels market some lower grade knives, but the Top of the line Wustof (Which I've only handled in the store, but never actually used) and my Henckels Pro are very sturdy rigid knives. Mine has an excellent feel for me and as you indicated, that's what makes for personal preference. I also have one of those nasty looking full sized chinese butcher knives which used to be my favorite. -- The Brick said that (Don't bother to agree with me, I have already changed my mind.) ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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![]() "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message ... > > "Charles Gifford" > wrote in message > ink.net... > snip > I haven't used either one > > since I got my santuko. Really super knife! > > > > Charliam > By it's nature, is the santuko a lighter-weight knife? My Wusthof "Classic" santuko is not a light weight knife. It is quite hefty feeling with excellent ballance. The blade is actually quite thick. The edge with the giant scallops is very sharp. I am sure that there are others here who can explain the engeneering of the design, but I can say that it slices things amazingly well. Charliam > The non-big-name > brands ones that I have held have seemed to light and thin for the body > size. They're been balanced, but didn't feel right in my hand--they felt > like they would be dangerous because the blade was thin and the whole knife > lighter weight. For instance, I really love my 8-inch Chef's knife as there > is weight that I can feel pressing against the heel of my hand, but the > blade is heavy enough, thick enough, that it feels right. It doesn't feel > like it would snap or skid sideways and the santuko knives that I hefted > did. > > |
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On a mailing list, folks are discussing the superstition or custom of
never giving just a knife as a gift. One should always give it along with something else, not knife-related, so that the friendship or relationship will not be severed. Has anyone ever heard of this custom before? Does anyone know from whence it came? maxine in ri |
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maxine in ri wrote:
> On a mailing list, folks are discussing the superstition or custom of > never giving just a knife as a gift. One should always give it along > with something else, not knife-related, so that the friendship or > relationship will not be severed. > > Has anyone ever heard of this custom before? Does anyone know from > whence it came? > > maxine in ri Absolutely! No knives, scissors or anything else that can "cut the friendship" are to be given. In my family, if something like this were to be given you'd request a penny (or include a penny to be given back as "payment") in exchange for this gift. another superstition is that luggage, purses, wallets, etc. also always given with a coin inside so they'd never be "empty". To this day all my luggage and leather goods contain a coin. I use foreign coins for my kids, so they can't spend it, lol. Goomba |
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Goomba38 wrote:
> maxine in ri wrote: > >> On a mailing list, folks are discussing the superstition or custom of >> never giving just a knife as a gift. One should always give it along >> with something else, not knife-related, so that the friendship or >> relationship will not be severed. >> >> Has anyone ever heard of this custom before? Does anyone know from >> whence it came? >> >> maxine in ri > > another superstition is that luggage, purses, wallets, etc. also > always given with a coin inside so they'd never be "empty". To this > day all my luggage and leather goods contain a coin. I use foreign > coins for my kids, so they can't spend it, lol. > Goomba They can't spend it unless they book a trip to said foreign country ![]() Jill |
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![]() jmcquown wrote: > Goomba38 wrote: > >>maxine in ri wrote: >> >> >>>On a mailing list, folks are discussing the superstition or custom of >>>never giving just a knife as a gift. One should always give it along >>>with something else, not knife-related, so that the friendship or >>>relationship will not be severed. >>> >>>Has anyone ever heard of this custom before? Does anyone know from >>>whence it came? >>> >>>maxine in ri >> >>another superstition is that luggage, purses, wallets, etc. also >>always given with a coin inside so they'd never be "empty". To this >>day all my luggage and leather goods contain a coin. I use foreign >>coins for my kids, so they can't spend it, lol. >>Goomba > > > They can't spend it unless they book a trip to said foreign country ![]() > > Jill > > I insist on real USA money. Or at least a Canadian penny, but I do like getting a nice, shiny USA penny. ![]() |
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maxine in ri wrote:
>> On a mailing list, folks are discussing the superstition or custom of >> never giving just a knife as a gift. One should always give it along >> with something else, not knife-related, so that the friendship or >> relationship will not be severed. >> >> Has anyone ever heard of this custom before? Does anyone know from >> whence it came? >> I've heard to never gift any one with a knife. We sell them to the person for a penny for just the reason you stated.. the relationship will be severed. Can't find a source in the few minutes I spent at Google, just several repetitions of the above. Debbie |
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![]() Debbie wrote: > maxine in ri wrote: > >> On a mailing list, folks are discussing the superstition or custom of > >> never giving just a knife as a gift. One should always give it along > >> with something else, not knife-related, so that the friendship or > >> relationship will not be severed. > >> > >> Has anyone ever heard of this custom before? Does anyone know from > >> whence it came? > >> > I've heard to never gift any one with a knife. We sell them to the person > for a penny for just the reason you stated.. the relationship will be > severed. Can't find a source in the few minutes I spent at Google, just > several repetitions of the above. > > Debbie That's fascinating! I live in an environment where carrying a pocket knife is considered a Very Good Idea, and giving one as a gift is often seen as caring enough about the recipient to ensure that s/he is safe, healthy, and well-prepared for almost anything that gets thrown in their way :-) Alexis. |
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![]() "Alexis" > ha scritto nel messaggio oups.com... > > Debbie wrote: >> maxine in ri wrote: >> >> On a mailing list, folks are discussing the superstition or custom of >> >> never giving just a knife as a gift. One should always give it along >> >> with something else, not knife-related, so that the friendship or >> >> relationship will not be severed. >> >> >> >> Has anyone ever heard of this custom before? Does anyone know from >> >> whence it came? In the southern Italy ther is this custom. I also think it's true! I like little knife and many people gave me as gift. Well, I always broken relationship because I haven't gave them a cent! Same thing with handkerchief. You must not present handkerchiefs unless you "pay" for it a symbolic amount of money Pandora |
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![]() "maxine in ri" > wrote in message ... > On a mailing list, folks are discussing the superstition or custom of > never giving just a knife as a gift. One should always give it along > with something else, not knife-related, so that the friendship or > relationship will not be severed. > > Has anyone ever heard of this custom before? Does anyone know from > whence it came? I gave a couple of Henckles knives to someone as a shower gift (I was in the wedding) ... I had them wrapped by the Macy's gift department, I gave them a penny for each knife and asked them to tape them to the blades. At the shower, the couple had to take the pennies off and return them to me. Created quite a stir. Even the wrapper lady at the store thought it was enchanting. I suppose it's no different than (from?) never giving someone an empty wallet ... you always include a nominal amount of money in it. nancy |
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![]() Nancy Young wrote: > "maxine in ri" > wrote in message > ... > >>On a mailing list, folks are discussing the superstition or custom of >>never giving just a knife as a gift. One should always give it along >>with something else, not knife-related, so that the friendship or >>relationship will not be severed. >> >>Has anyone ever heard of this custom before? Does anyone know from >>whence it came? > > > I gave a couple of Henckles knives to someone as a shower gift (I was > in the wedding) ... I had them wrapped by the Macy's gift department, > I gave them a penny for each knife and asked them to tape them to the > blades. At the shower, the couple had to take the pennies off and return > them to me. Created quite a stir. Even the wrapper lady at the store > thought it was enchanting. > > I suppose it's no different than (from?) never giving someone an empty > wallet ... you always include a nominal amount of money in it. > > nancy > > Not just knives, but scissors, needles and pins, such as stickpins and brooches, are never given, only "sold". Knives and scissors could sever a friendship and pins and needles with their sharp points could hurt it. I always ask for a penny if I give someone such a dangerous gift. Knock on wood, I am not superstitious. ![]() |
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In article >, Margaret Suran
> wrote: > Not just knives, but scissors, needles and pins, such as stickpins and > brooches, are never given, only "sold". Knives and scissors could > sever a friendship and pins and needles with their sharp points could > hurt it. > > I always ask for a penny if I give someone such a dangerous gift. > Knock on wood, I am not superstitious. ![]() <cough> BTW, I'd forgotten to put the scissors in my checked bag on the way home and the vigilant TSA folks inspected my handbag when it showed up on their picture. They approved them for transport in my bag. I'm glad I didn't pay much for them. -- -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> 8/3/05 New York-Vermont tab (a couple pictures added to the 7/29 note on 8/5) |
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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
... > > "maxine in ri" > wrote in message > ... > > On a mailing list, folks are discussing the superstition or custom of > > never giving just a knife as a gift. One should always give it along > > with something else, not knife-related, so that the friendship or > > relationship will not be severed. > > > > Has anyone ever heard of this custom before? Does anyone know from > > whence it came? > > I gave a couple of Henckles knives to someone as a shower gift (I was > in the wedding) ... I had them wrapped by the Macy's gift department, > I gave them a penny for each knife and asked them to tape them to the > blades. At the shower, the couple had to take the pennies off and return > them to me. Created quite a stir. Even the wrapper lady at the store > thought it was enchanting. I've purchased a few knives as gifts at various stores in the Seattle area and the sales person has always taped a penny to the blades if I said it was for a gift. |
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![]() "Matt" > wrote > "Nancy Young" > wrote >> I gave a couple of Henckles knives to someone as a shower gift (I was >> in the wedding) ... I had them wrapped by the Macy's gift department, >> I gave them a penny for each knife and asked them to tape them to the >> blades. At the shower, the couple had to take the pennies off and return >> them to me. Created quite a stir. Even the wrapper lady at the store >> thought it was enchanting. > > I've purchased a few knives as gifts at various stores in the Seattle area > and the sales person has always taped a penny to the blades if I said it > was > for a gift. Heh, isn't that funny. All the people I ran into had never heard of it. I think if you're going to have superstitions, that's a cute one. nancy |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 23:52:23 -0400, maxine in ri >
wrote: >On a mailing list, folks are discussing the superstition or custom of >never giving just a knife as a gift. One should always give it along >with something else, not knife-related, so that the friendship or >relationship will not be severed. > >Has anyone ever heard of this custom before? Does anyone know from >whence it came? > >maxine in ri I heard about the knife one just a few years ago. In reading this subject today, I'm finding out about a bunch of other rituals (give money with the knife, don't give wallets without money etc.). They're variants on "If you do (or don't do) X, then something terrible will happen." "Step on a crack, break your mother's back." "Send this chain letter to 10 people else something terrible will happen." As someone who hates this kind of stuff but can generally avoid it, the problem with the "don't give X as a gift because something terrible will happen" is the possibility that the recipient believes in it. I wouldn't want to give a gift that makes someone uncomfortable. Although it seems that if the giver accepts the token money offered, the recipient will feel better. :> Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 23:52:23 -0400, maxine in ri wrote:
> On a mailing list, folks are discussing the superstition or custom of > never giving just a knife as a gift. One should always give it along > with something else, not knife-related, so that the friendship or > relationship will not be severed. > > Has anyone ever heard of this custom before? Does anyone know from > whence it came? > > maxine in ri I have, but how did you learn about this??? I've heard that when you give a knife the recipient should give you a penny - otherwise the knife will "cut" your friendship. I'm unclear on the concept of how money counteracts the "cutting" and why the gift of a knife could end a friendship in the first place. I thought it was just some weird Asian superstition before you brought it up. Now I'm don't know where it comes from because I think most, if not all, of the people participating in this thread are of European extract. |
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![]() sf wrote: > > I've heard that when you give a knife the recipient should give you a > penny - otherwise the knife will "cut" your friendship. I'm unclear > on the concept of how money counteracts the "cutting" and why the gift > of a knife could end a friendship in the first place. > > I thought it was just some weird Asian superstition before you brought > it up. Now I'm don't know where it comes from because I think most, > if not all, of the people participating in this thread are of European > extract. I learned it as anything sharp should be given with a penny. My Grandmother taught us this and she was French/Irish/German. Another superstition is that if you drop a knife, you will have a visitor from the direction in which the tip of the knife is pointing. If you spill salt, throw some over your shoulder into the eye of the witch who is coming to get you. -L. |
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-L. wrote:
> > sf wrote: >> >> I've heard that when you give a knife the recipient should give you a >> penny - otherwise the knife will "cut" your friendship. I'm unclear >> on the concept of how money counteracts the "cutting" and why the gift >> of a knife could end a friendship in the first place. >> >> I thought it was just some weird Asian superstition before you brought >> it up. Now I'm don't know where it comes from because I think most, >> if not all, of the people participating in this thread are of European >> extract. > > I learned it as anything sharp should be given with a penny. My > Grandmother taught us this and she was French/Irish/German. > The way I learned it was that the giver should accept a penny from the receiver. The receiver can then see the knife as a gift, but the Fates don't. ---jkb -- "I drank what?" -- Socrates |
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On 9 Aug 2005 02:03:29 -0700, -L. wrote:
> > I learned it as anything sharp should be given with a penny. My > Grandmother taught us this and she was French/Irish/German. > Maybe it's Irish(ish)... the SIL who taught me was 1/2 Irish. |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 13:42:06 GMT, "Charles Gifford"
> wrote: >I just wanted to mention that I recently purchased (on sale fortunately) a >Wusthof Classic santuko knife. It is fabulous! It is now my favorite knife! >I was skeptical, but I am now a believer! What a knife! > >Charliam > I got a Henckels one a year or so ago..and I love mine as well.. I think I use it above all other knives.. Christine |
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Christine Dabney wrote on 07 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking
> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 13:42:06 GMT, "Charles Gifford" > > wrote: > > >I just wanted to mention that I recently purchased (on sale > >fortunately) a Wusthof Classic santuko knife. It is fabulous! It is > >now my favorite knife! I was skeptical, but I am now a believer! > >What a knife! > > > >Charliam > > > > I got a Henckels one a year or so ago..and I love mine as well.. I > think I use it above all other knives.. > > Christine > I recently bought some henckel too!...but mine was a kinda braising pot. I'm very impressed with everything about it except the price. It's got a non-stick coating inside and out but not on the lid and it distributes heat very well. The only drawback I can see is it isn't dishwasher safe. -- The eyes are the mirrors.... But the ears...Ah the ears. The ears keep the hat up. |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 13:42:06 GMT, Charles Gifford wrote:
> I just wanted to mention that I recently purchased (on sale fortunately) a > Wusthof Classic santuko knife. It is fabulous! It is now my favorite knife! > I was skeptical, but I am now a believer! What a knife! > Welcome back! I just got a santuko (did we both shop at Williams Sonoma?) less than a month ago too.... I've tried to use it for everything that I'd use a chef's knife for normally. Although I like it, I won't stop using my chefs knives. I haven't cut any meat into thin slices yet (something I did 2 days before buying it, so that's what sold me). The blade is definitely thinner than my chef's knives and of course it has that new knife sharpness. Overall, I think the heft is a little light. What tasks make it your new favorite knife? |
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![]() On 7-Aug-2005, "Charles Gifford" > wrote: > I just wanted to mention that I recently purchased (on sale fortunately) a > Wusthof Classic santuko knife. It is fabulous! It is now my favorite knife! > I was skeptical, but I am now a believer! What a knife! > > Charliam I felt the same way Charliam. I finally bought a Henckels Pro Santoku and a paring knife. Those two take care of about 90% of all my knife work so there's not point in my buying any more expensive knives. I know some folks don't like a santoku, but I do. The paring knife is used like a mini chef's knife while all my actual paring is done with a 3" Chicago Cutlery parer. All of my knives are kept sharp enough to cut tomato skin at the first touch, but only the expensive ones stay that way very long without touchup. -- The Brick said that (Don't bother to agree with me, I have already changed my mind.) ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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