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Do you know the difference between margarine and butter?
Both have the same amount of calories. Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5 grams. Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over eating the same amount of butter according to a recent Harvard Medical Study. Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other foods. Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few only because they are added! Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavors of other foods. Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for less than 100 years. Now for Margarine... Very high in Trans Fatty Acids... Triple risk of Coronary Heart Disease.. Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) Lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol) .... Increases the risk of cancers by up to five fold... Lowers quality of breast milk ... Decreases immune response... Decreases insulin response. And here is the most disturbing fact.... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY INTERESTING! Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC...This fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the molecular structure of the substance). YOU can try this yourself: purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your garage or shaded area. Within a couple of days you will note a couple of things: no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that should tell you something) ... it does not rot or smell differently..because it has no nutritional value, nothing will grow on it...even those teeny weeny microorganisms will not a find a home to grow. Why? Because it is nearly plastic. Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast? |
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SportKite1 wrote:
> Do you know the difference between margarine and butter? Butter comes from a cow's nipple, margarine comes from a machine's nipple. I think any comparison of saturated or unsaturated fat is unfair. Butter is far more natural, but has too much Omega-6 fatty acid. Margine usually has trans-fats, but not always, and either way, has nothing good (while butter has some Omega-3). Omega 3 and 6 are both unsaturated, while one is good and one will destroy your heart. Same goes for most saturated fats. Not all are bad, while some will kill you. I prefer butter. It tastes better, and in moderation is healthier than butter (depends on the rest of your diet, but in my diet, it is healthier). -- John Gaughan http://www.johngaughan.net/ |
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Here's more information:
http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/butter.asp This is one of those Snopes reports that's true. When comparing butter and margerine, butter comes out better for nearly everyone on healthful properties and taste. Do take a look, however, at the last paragraph in the Snopes report having to do with the one molecule away from plastic business. They call it hyperbole, and I'd say that was an accurate assessment. --Lia SportKite1 wrote: > Why? Because it is nearly plastic. > > Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast? |
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"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
news:T26lc.10653$TD4.1191709@attbi_s01... > Here's more information: > > http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/butter.asp > > > This is one of those Snopes reports that's true. When comparing butter > and margerine, butter comes out better for nearly everyone on healthful > properties and taste. Do take a look, however, at the last paragraph in > the Snopes report having to do with the one molecule away from plastic > business. They call it hyperbole, and I'd say that was an accurate > assessment. > > Even if it's true, so what? The poster clearly knows nothing about chemistry. Water is one atom away from hydrogen peroxide, a potent bleach. Salt is one atom away from chlorine, a poison gas used in WW I. Carbon dioxide is one atom away from carbon monoxide. -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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![]() "SportKite1" > wrote in message ... ...snip ... > > HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY INTERESTING! > > Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC...This fact alone was > enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is > hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the molecular structure of > the substance). > This is a confection of confusion and misinformation. (1) Your use of "molecule" in this context has no meaning. Hydrogenated fats and non-hydrogenated fats are both molecules in themselves, neither are "one molecule" away from anything. (2) If you intended to say one atom or one substituent group away from some other compound (which at least makes some sort of sense) it has no significance for human consumption. By this logic we would stay away from water (HOH) as it is only one atom from rotten egg gas (HSH) or one group away from prussic acid (HCN). Compounds that differ by one group may have entirely different properties. Unless there is a mechanism to convert one to the other, the consumption of the one will not result in harm caused by the other. (3) Please advise what polymer (plastic) the hydrogenated fats in margarine are "one molecule" away from. I would be interested to know what that is and how toxic it is. And while you are at it, assuming that there is such a thing and it is in fact harmful, what is the mechanism by which margarine will be converted to this substance? Where has it been demonstrated that this process can occur in nature or in the human body? Much of human fat metabolism is to do with adding and removing groups to chains (mainly removing) but unless you can show that such a thing can happen to the fats in margarine and that the result is a harmful substance you are just getting your exercise jumping to conclusions. David |
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SportKite1 wrote:
> Do you know the difference between margarine and butter? > > Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC...This fact alone was > enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is > hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the molecular structure of > the substance). Beef is ONE MOLECULE (DNA) away from being HUMAN FLESH! You CANNIBAL! Hope this helps :-) |
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SportKite1 wrote:
> > Do you know the difference between margarine and butter? They have different flash points. Because of this they can be used differently for sauteeing. Flavor issues aside, mushrooms sautee better in margarine than in butter because of this difference. They can be sauteed hotter in margarine and that sears them better. > Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavors of > other foods. Tastes vary and they are not subject to objective tests. I was raised in a time when no one knew the dangers of transfats and when people falsely thought that saturated fat was bad (much like doctors in the time of George Washington thought that bleeding was good). So I grew up having margarine not butter. I like the taste of margarine better. Tough. I now know the problems of transfats so I have butter instead. > HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY INTERESTING! > Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC... Chuckle. Nuclear bombs don't work by molecules. Too bad this can't be exaggerated into radioactivity somehow ;^) > Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast? Chuckle. Thanks for the posting. |
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Doug Freyburger wrote:
> SportKite1 wrote: > > > > Do you know the difference between margarine and butter? > > They have different flash points. You mean smoke points. Butter and margarine break down and smoke, they do not vaporize hence they do not have flash points. |
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> Mark Thorazine blithered:
> >Doug Freyburger wrote: > >> SportKite1 wrote: >> > >> > Do you know the difference between margarine and butter? >> >> They have different flash points. > >You mean smoke points. Butter and margarine break down >and smoke, they do not vaporize hence they do not have flash >points. Mark THORAZINE, you are truly a ****ing *DANGEROUS* PSYCHOTIC imbecile. http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/...g_basics/87244 The third element to consider in choosing a fat is the heat points. Smoke point defines the temperature when a fat begins to smoke and develop an acrid odor and off flavor. Smoke points are important to know for sauteing or frying. For deep fat frying, especially, it is important to use a fat with a higher smoke point. Deep fat frying is performed most effectively at approximately 375 degrees. If you fry at a much lower temperature, the food does not develop an immediate crust upon immersion, and will absorb the fat and become greasy. If you fry at a much higher temperature, the outside will burn before the food is cooked through. Remember, however, that the smoke point of any oil decreases with use; do not use the same oil more than three times. Other heat points for fats include "flash" and "fire" points at 600 and 700 degrees, respectively. At the flash point, there are tiny wisps of flame; at the fire point a fire is blazing. Do not put out an oil fire with water; it will spread the fire. Rather, smother the fire with a tight-fitting lid, suffocate it with baking soda, or use a specially formulated fire extingisher. --- ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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PENMART01 wrote:
> At the flash point, there are tiny wisps of flame; at the fire point a fire is > blazing. Do not put out an oil fire with water; it will spread the fire. This is not correct. There is NO FLAME at the flash point, unless an external ignition source is supplied. Quoting from: http://www.arlenetaylor.org/seminars/flashpoint.htm "Flashpoint: the lowest temperature at which vapors above a volatile combustible substance ignite in air when exposed to flame." Note that neither butter nor margarine are volatile substances, hence they do not have flash points. They will break down above their smoke points, and some of those breakdown products can ignite, but those products are not vapors of butter or margarine. You would not be able to condense them to reconstitute butter or margarine. |
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