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Doug Kanter
 
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I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for years.
Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the butter
wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!


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"I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
years.
Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the butter

wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!"

Ha! You're clearly a toast connoiseur, and know your ways around the
noble crust. You're right, Big Butter isn't interested in accuracy or
helping
out us little guys. I remember, back before butter had gone corporate,
they
used to care about the consumer and address things like this. You
can't
blame them I suppose; Parkay kind of ruined it for everyone - the dairy
industry
had to keep up somehow. But I miss those days.

The first thing you have to consider is whether or not your whole wheat
is really
"whole" wheat, or is just what's labelled "wheat bread," which can
have any amount
of whole wheat flour. These breads can be overwhelmed by a really good
butter, although
with standard Land-O-Lakes or store brand, they work fine. It goes
with out saying that you're
using unsalted.

You might be lucky enough to live somewhere near a developing artisan
buttermaker. These folks
are bringing back the ancient noble art of churning as it was meant to
be. Many use organic milk from their
own cows. This stuff is the best. If you're using this, then you
either should be baking your own bread or
using artisan baked stuff.

Plugra, or finnish butter, is availlable in specialty stores and
high-end groceries like Whole Foods. It might even
be availlable in normal stores like Kroger or Albertsons or Aldi. You
can probably also buy it over the internet.

What are you burning your bread with? I tried the fork method like
they do in the UK, but I just couldn't master it. Maybe if I had a
roaring fire, but it doesn't work with a gas range. I know some people
like those retro styled hulks like Cuisinart is selling, but those are
mostly overpriced flash. I've had perfectly good results with a thrift
store hamilton beach two slicer. I don't like the color, but hey,
isn't that what spray paint is for?

Good luck and enjoy.

Greg Zywicki
I'm not sure who I'm making fun of.

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Doug Kanter wrote:
> I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
> years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
> the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
> issue. Help!


Why the heck would the type of bread matter as to the use of butter?


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"Doug Kanter" > wrote in message
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>I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for years.
>Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast?


Of course not - for Wheat toast you need sheds light as you mentioned.

>I see nothing on the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light
>on the issue. Help!



Dimitri


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"Zywicki" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> "I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
> years.
> Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the butter
>
> wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!"
>
> Ha! You're clearly a toast connoiseur, and know your ways around the
> noble crust. You're right, Big Butter isn't interested in accuracy or
> helping
> out us little guys. I remember, back before butter had gone corporate,
> they
> used to care about the consumer and address things like this. You
> can't
> blame them I suppose; Parkay kind of ruined it for everyone - the dairy
> industry
> had to keep up somehow. But I miss those days.
>
> The first thing you have to consider is whether or not your whole wheat
> is really
> "whole" wheat, or is just what's labelled "wheat bread," which can
> have any amount
> of whole wheat flour. These breads can be overwhelmed by a really good
> butter, although
> with standard Land-O-Lakes or store brand, they work fine. It goes
> with out saying that you're
> using unsalted.
>
> You might be lucky enough to live somewhere near a developing artisan
> buttermaker. These folks
> are bringing back the ancient noble art of churning as it was meant to
> be. Many use organic milk from their
> own cows. This stuff is the best. If you're using this, then you
> either should be baking your own bread or
> using artisan baked stuff.
>
> Plugra, or finnish butter, is availlable in specialty stores and
> high-end groceries like Whole Foods. It might even
> be availlable in normal stores like Kroger or Albertsons or Aldi. You
> can probably also buy it over the internet.
>
> What are you burning your bread with? I tried the fork method like
> they do in the UK, but I just couldn't master it. Maybe if I had a
> roaring fire, but it doesn't work with a gas range. I know some people
> like those retro styled hulks like Cuisinart is selling, but those are
> mostly overpriced flash. I've had perfectly good results with a thrift
> store hamilton beach two slicer. I don't like the color, but hey,
> isn't that what spray paint is for?
>
> Good luck and enjoy.
>
> Greg Zywicki
> I'm not sure who I'm making fun of.
>


Find the discussion called "Garlic Spread --> Garlic Bread" or something
like that. :-)




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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> Doug Kanter wrote:
>> I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
>> years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
>> the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
>> issue. Help!

>
> Why the heck would the type of bread matter as to the use of butter?


It was a joke. I was trying to think of a funny comeback.

nancy


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In article .com>,
"Zywicki" > wrote:

> "I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
> years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
> the butter
>
> wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!"
>
> Ha! You're clearly a toast connoiseur, and know your ways around the
> noble crust. You're right, Big Butter isn't interested in accuracy
> or helping out us little guys. I remember, back before butter had
> gone corporate, they used to care about the consumer and address
> things like this. You can't blame them I suppose; Parkay kind of
> ruined it for everyone - the dairy industry had to keep up somehow.
> But I miss those days.
>
> The first thing you have to consider is whether or not your whole
> wheat is really "whole" wheat, or is just what's labelled "wheat
> bread," which can have any amount of whole wheat flour. These breads
> can be overwhelmed by a really good butter, although with standard
> Land-O-Lakes or store brand, they work fine. It goes with out saying
> that you're using unsalted.
>
> You might be lucky enough to live somewhere near a developing artisan
> buttermaker. These folks are bringing back the ancient noble art of
> churning as it was meant to be. Many use organic milk from their own
> cows. This stuff is the best. If you're using this, then you either
> should be baking your own bread or using artisan baked stuff.
>
> Plugra, or finnish butter, is availlable in specialty stores and
> high-end groceries like Whole Foods. It might even be availlable in
> normal stores like Kroger or Albertsons or Aldi. You can probably
> also buy it over the internet.
>
> What are you burning your bread with? I tried the fork method like
> they do in the UK, but I just couldn't master it. Maybe if I had a
> roaring fire, but it doesn't work with a gas range. I know some
> people like those retro styled hulks like Cuisinart is selling, but
> those are mostly overpriced flash. I've had perfectly good results
> with a thrift store hamilton beach two slicer. I don't like the
> color, but hey, isn't that what spray paint is for?


>
> Good luck and enjoy.
>
> Greg Zywicki
> I'm not sure who I'm making fun of.
>


You covered the territory nicely, though. Good job, Greg! LOL! I'm
particularly fond of the lines about butter going corporate!
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Sweet Potato Follies added 2/24/05.
"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.
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In article >, "Doug Kanter"
> wrote:

> I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
> years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
> the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
> issue. Help!


Shame on you, Doug Kanter! LOL!! Dimitri should get a prize for the
Shedd's comment.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Sweet Potato Follies added 2/24/05.
"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.
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"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
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> In article >, "Doug Kanter"
> > wrote:
>
>> I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
>> years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
>> the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
>> issue. Help!

>
> Shame on you, Doug Kanter! LOL!! Dimitri should get a prize for the
> Shedd's comment.


Forgive me. Maybe. :-) Or, not.


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"Doug Kanter" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >, "Doug Kanter"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
>>> years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
>>> the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
>>> issue. Help!

>>
>> Shame on you, Doug Kanter! LOL!! Dimitri should get a prize for the
>> Shedd's comment.

>
> Forgive me. Maybe. :-) Or, not.


Next question - How do you make instant water?




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Nancy Young wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Doug Kanter wrote:
>>
>>>I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
>>>years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
>>>the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
>>>issue. Help!

>>
>>Why the heck would the type of bread matter as to the use of butter?

>
>
> It was a joke. I was trying to think of a funny comeback.
>
> nancy
>
>



"No, the rule is Vegamite on whole wheat and Crisco on white.
You ust remember to match the colors."

;-)
gloria p
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Doug Kanter wrote:
> I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for

years.
> Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the

butter
> wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!


I don't have an answer. I checked out:

Butter Is Best
http://www.butterisbest.com/


The American Butter Institute
http://www.butterinstitute.org/


If even checked (God forgive me) Margarine.org
http://www.margarine.org/


Even the Toaster Museum had no answer.

The Toaster Museum
http://www.toaster.org/


Here is an article about how various breads held up to toasting, but
nothing about buttering them.

http://www.jsonline.com/entree/cooking/may03/142616.asp


I would butter the underside of the whole wheat toast and see how that
works.


;-)


Rusty

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Nancy Young wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Doug Kanter wrote:
>>> I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
>>> years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
>>> the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
>>> issue. Help!

>>
>> Why the heck would the type of bread matter as to the use of butter?

>
> It was a joke. I was trying to think of a funny comeback.
>
> nancy


Sorry.... I haven't gotten much sleep since the call from Damsel and other
goings on. I'm usually sharper than a dull tack but not today

Jill


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it's a feeble attempt at either humor or trolling.

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Doug Kanter wrote:

> I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for years.
> Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the butter
> wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!
>
>

Sticking a spoonful of butter in your mouth is pure delight. Who needs
bread


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> wrote
> it's a feeble attempt at either humor or trolling.


It was funny, he was mocking another post. I laughed.

nancy


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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote
>> it's a feeble attempt at either humor or trolling.

>
> It was funny, he was mocking another post. I laughed.
>
> nancy
>


Thank you for being awake, Nancy. :-) Lately, I have little patience for
helplessness in the kitchen, and people who need a full-scale online
investigation and a call to the Vatican, just to figure out what can be done
with garlic spread. :-)


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"Rusty" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Doug Kanter wrote:
>> I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for

> years.
>> Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the

> butter
>> wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!

>
> I don't have an answer. I checked out:
>
> Butter Is Best
> http://www.butterisbest.com/
>
>
> The American Butter Institute
> http://www.butterinstitute.org/
>
>
> If even checked (God forgive me) Margarine.org
> http://www.margarine.org/
>
>
> Even the Toaster Museum had no answer.
>
> The Toaster Museum
> http://www.toaster.org/
>
>
> Here is an article about how various breads held up to toasting, but
> nothing about buttering them.
>
> http://www.jsonline.com/entree/cooking/may03/142616.asp
>
>
> I would butter the underside of the whole wheat toast and see how that
> works.
>
>
> ;-)
>
>
> Rusty
>


Time out! There's a top and a bottom for a slice of whole wheat bread (not
counting the ends)? What about potato bread???


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Doug Kanter wrote:
> "Rusty" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> >
> > Doug Kanter wrote:
> >> I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way

for
> > years.
> >> Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the

> > butter
> >> wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!

> >
> > I don't have an answer. I checked out:
> >
> > Butter Is Best
> > http://www.butterisbest.com/
> >
> >
> > The American Butter Institute
> > http://www.butterinstitute.org/
> >
> >
> > If even checked (God forgive me) Margarine.org
> > http://www.margarine.org/
> >
> >
> > Even the Toaster Museum had no answer.
> >
> > The Toaster Museum
> > http://www.toaster.org/
> >
> >
> > Here is an article about how various breads held up to toasting,

but
> > nothing about buttering them.
> >
> > http://www.jsonline.com/entree/cooking/may03/142616.asp
> >
> >
> > I would butter the underside of the whole wheat toast and see how

that
> > works.
> >
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> >
> > Rusty
> >

>
> Time out! There's a top and a bottom for a slice of whole wheat bread

(not
> counting the ends)? What about potato bread???


You bet there is! The best way to determine which side is the top is
to drop it from waist or countertop height on to the floor. The side
that lands touching the floor is the top. ;-)

Heidi

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Doug Kanter wrote:
> "Rusty" > wrote in message
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>
> Time out! There's a top and a bottom for a slice of whole wheat bread

(not
> counting the ends)? What about potato bread???


I FOUND IT! Here is the recipe for Buttered Toast. Everyone write it
down because I'm not going to repeat it!

http://www.freerecipe.org/Bread/butt...ast-recipe.htm

(I don't think the type of bread matters, but I could be wrong.)


:>)


Rusty



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"Rusty" > wrote in message
ps.com...
>
> Doug Kanter wrote:
>> "Rusty" > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>> >

>
>>
>> Time out! There's a top and a bottom for a slice of whole wheat bread

> (not
>> counting the ends)? What about potato bread???

>
> I FOUND IT! Here is the recipe for Buttered Toast. Everyone write it
> down because I'm not going to repeat it!
>
> http://www.freerecipe.org/Bread/butt...ast-recipe.htm
>
> (I don't think the type of bread matters, but I could be wrong.)


This is awesome. Thank you!


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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 14:29:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
> wrote:

>I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for years.
>Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the butter
>wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!
>


Some butters have been known to explode on contact. You might want to
write or call the manufacturer of the butter. Make sure to have the
brand name of the bread and serial number written down in case they
ask. If you were daring enough, you can attempt to spread a small
amount and see what happens. Just make sure to wear protective
headgear, goggles and some type of light body armor. Wearing several
layers of clothing and a heavy nylon ski jacket will suffice.
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"Rusty" > wrote in message
ps.com...

> I FOUND IT! Here is the recipe for Buttered Toast. Everyone write it
> down because I'm not going to repeat it!
>
> http://www.freerecipe.org/Bread/butt...ast-recipe.htm
>
> (I don't think the type of bread matters, but I could be wrong.)


Great step-by-step instructions!

Felice


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Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:
> I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for years.
> Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the butter
> wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!
>
>

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In article >, Ted
Campanelli > wrote:

> Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes
> not so great) words of knowledge:
> > I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way
> > for years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see
> > nothing on the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any
> > light on the issue. Help!


Heck, Ted, Doug's just having some fun. (Or were you referring to
yourself?)
--
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"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.


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"Doug Kanter" > wrote in message
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>I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for years.
>Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the butter
>wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!



Hi Doug,
How is school? I see they let you use the computers. Fun, isn't it.
Pretty soon you will be old enough to masturbate and you won't have time to
use the computer.


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In article >,
Serendipity > wrote:

> Doug Kanter wrote:
>
> > I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for years.
> > Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the butter
> > wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!
> >
> >

> Sticking a spoonful of butter in your mouth is pure delight. Who needs
> bread


Ew! <shiver>
That made my teeth hurt!!! :-o
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"You covered the territory nicely, though. Good job, Greg! LOL! I'm
particularly fond of the lines about butter going corporate! "
--
-Barb

Thanks. I was afraid I'd spread it on a bit thick.

Greg Zywicki

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"Well ya' got creamed butter, salted and unsalted butter. Lots of
choices. I
like salted butter on toasted sourdough myself but I prefer bagels. "

Michael

You put bagels on sourdough? What is that, the North Beach diet?

Greg Zywicki

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"Time out! There's a top and a bottom for a slice of whole wheat bread
(not
counting the ends)? What about potato bread??? "

For the definitive work on assymetric food orientation, go to google
groups and enter the following
search terms:

Moosemeat chicken leg chauvinist

Greg Zywicki



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In article . com>,
"Zywicki" > wrote:

> "You covered the territory nicely, though. Good job, Greg! LOL! I'm
> particularly fond of the lines about butter going corporate! "
> --
> -Barb
>
> Thanks. I was afraid I'd spread it on a bit thick.
>
> Greg Zywicki


< Slaps Greg upside the head! Hard! >
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say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.
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