A pet peeve of mine is growers, manufacturers, advertisers, and
friends and acquaintances pushing things on me because they're
"natural". The first three groups I ignore; to the friends and
acquaintances I relate the story of a doctor treating a patient who's
suffering from lung disease but who insists on smoking weed. "The
habit is making your condition worse" the doctor admonishes him. "How
can that be?" the patient asks. "It's all natural. How can it be bad?"
"Apricot stones naturally contain lethal amounts of cyanide. Eat too
many and they'll kill you" the doctor replies. "In my back yard
there's a plant that, if you sit under it for about ten minutes or so,
you'll die. Just because something is ""natural" doesn't mean it's
safe or good for you." The patient seems to accept this and says he'll
quit and leaves. After he's gone, the nurse in attendance looks at the
doctor and asks "What plant will kill you if you sit under it for ten
minutes?" "A water lily, of course."
--
Bob
Sidera errantia quibus procella tenebrarum in aeternum servata est

On 2021-05-30 9:45 a.m., Opinicus wrote:
> A pet peeve of mine is growers, manufacturers, advertisers, and
> friends and acquaintances pushing things on me because they're
> "natural". The first three groups I ignore; to the friends and
> acquaintances I relate the story of a doctor treating a patient who's
> suffering from lung disease but who insists on smoking weed. "The
> habit is making your condition worse" the doctor admonishes him. "How
> can that be?" the patient asks. "It's all natural. How can it be bad?"
> "Apricot stones naturally contain lethal amounts of cyanide. Eat too
> many and they'll kill you" the doctor replies. "In my back yard
> there's a plant that, if you sit under it for about ten minutes or so,
> you'll die. Just because something is ""natural" doesn't mean it's
> safe or good for you." The patient seems to accept this and says he'll
> quit and leaves. After he's gone, the nurse in attendance looks at the
> doctor and asks "What plant will kill you if you sit under it for ten
> minutes?" "A water lily, of course."
>

Years ago my health food nazi SiL was extolling the virtues Celestial
Seasoning herbal teas. I argued that the companies producing that stuff
just mixed together a lot of flowers and herbs and had no idea of the
chemical content. A short time after that discussion there was a news
story about a woman who almost died from drinking too much of one of
their products. She had a real thing for it and was drinking more than
20 cups a day. Apparently there was atropine in it. Not enough to harm
you in normal doses, but enough to do harm in large doses.

On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 3:45:16 AM UTC-10, Opinicus wrote:
> A pet peeve of mine is growers, manufacturers, advertisers, and
> friends and acquaintances pushing things on me because they're
> "natural". The first three groups I ignore; to the friends and
> acquaintances I relate the story of a doctor treating a patient who's
> suffering from lung disease but who insists on smoking weed. "The
> habit is making your condition worse" the doctor admonishes him. "How
> can that be?" the patient asks. "It's all natural. How can it be bad?"
> "Apricot stones naturally contain lethal amounts of cyanide. Eat too
> many and they'll kill you" the doctor replies. "In my back yard
> there's a plant that, if you sit under it for about ten minutes or so,
> you'll die. Just because something is ""natural" doesn't mean it's
> safe or good for you." The patient seems to accept this and says he'll
> quit and leaves. After he's gone, the nurse in attendance looks at the
> doctor and asks "What plant will kill you if you sit under it for ten
> minutes?" "A water lily, of course."
> --
> Bob
> Sidera errantia quibus procella tenebrarum in aeternum servata est

My father-in-law was hospitalized when he OD'ed on the most natural of substances - water. He had read a book that claimed that drinking a lot of water could cure all ills. My guess is that it was a psychiatric problem, mostly. As it goes, water poisoning is a real thing.
My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:58:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

> My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of
> glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.

The U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men.

These recommendations cover fluids from water, other beverages and food. About 20% of daily fluid intake usually comes from food and the rest from drinks.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 30 May 2021 13:25:32 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:58:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of
>> glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.
>
>The U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men.
>
>These recommendations cover fluids from water, other beverages and food. About 20% of daily fluid intake usually comes from food and the rest from drinks.
>
>Cindy Hamilton
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
This is a message from the other Dave Smith.

On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:25:35 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:58:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of
> > glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.
> The U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men.
>
> These recommendations cover fluids from water, other beverages and food. About 20% of daily fluid intake usually comes from food and the rest from drinks.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I drink less than 2 cups of water a day. That's an adequate level for me. 3.7 L of water might just kill me.

On 5/31/2021 11:24 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:25:35 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:58:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of
>>> glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.
>> The U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men.
>>
>> These recommendations cover fluids from water, other beverages and food. About 20% of daily fluid intake usually comes from food and the rest from drinks.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I drink less than 2 cups of water a day. That's an adequate level for me. 3.7 L of water might just kill me.
>

Less than 2 cups...

Are you rooted in potting soil?

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 1:25:01 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:25:35 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:58:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of
> > > glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.
> > The U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men.
> >
> > These recommendations cover fluids from water, other beverages and food. About 20% of daily fluid intake usually comes from food and the rest from drinks.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> I drink less than 2 cups of water a day. That's an adequate level for me. 3.7 L of water might just kill me.

If 2 cups were adequate, your dentist wouldn't recommend you drink more.

Increase slowly until you're consuming the recommended amount.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/31/2021 11:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 1:25:01 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:25:35 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:58:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of
>>>> glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.
>>> The U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men.
>>>
>>> These recommendations cover fluids from water, other beverages and food. About 20% of daily fluid intake usually comes from food and the rest from drinks.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>> I drink less than 2 cups of water a day. That's an adequate level for me. 3.7 L of water might just kill me.
>
> If 2 cups were adequate, your dentist wouldn't recommend you drink more.
>
> Increase slowly until you're consuming the recommended amount.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

It's possible he consumes the rest as "tea" though...plenty of pehnols
and antioxidants therein...

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 7:28:10 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 1:25:01 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:25:35 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:58:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > > My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of
> > > > glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.
> > > The U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men.
> > >
> > > These recommendations cover fluids from water, other beverages and food. About 20% of daily fluid intake usually comes from food and the rest from drinks.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > I drink less than 2 cups of water a day. That's an adequate level for me. 3.7 L of water might just kill me.
> If 2 cups were adequate, your dentist wouldn't recommend you drink more.
>
> Increase slowly until you're consuming the recommended amount.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

How much water do you drink a day? I used to drink a lot more water but it was nowhere near 4 L. That's kind of nuts. I'm just not a thirsty guy anymore.

On Mon, 31 May 2021 10:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 1:25:01 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:25:35 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:58:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> >
>> > > My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of
>> > > glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.
>> > The U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men.
>> >
>> > These recommendations cover fluids from water, other beverages and food. About 20% of daily fluid intake usually comes from food and the rest from drinks.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> I drink less than 2 cups of water a day. That's an adequate level for me. 3.7 L of water might just kill me.
>
>If 2 cups were adequate, your dentist wouldn't recommend you drink more.
>
>Increase slowly until you're consuming the recommended amount.
>
>Cindy Hamilton
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
The other Dave Smith.

On 2021-05-31 1:24 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:25:35 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:58:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of
>>> glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.
>> The U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men.
>>
>> These recommendations cover fluids from water, other beverages and food. About 20% of daily fluid intake usually comes from food and the rest from drinks.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I drink less than 2 cups of water a day. That's an adequate level for me. 3.7 L of water might just kill me.
>



I am on a reduced fluid regimen. I am supposed to limit myself to 1 1/2
to 2 liters of fluid per day. That includes water, tea, coffee, juice
and any other beverages, plus the milk I have in cereal, high water
content fruit, yogurt etc. I gauge it relatively carefully but
sometimes I have to really watch it.

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 8:15:36 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-31 1:24 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:25:35 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:58:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >>> My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of
> >>> glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.
> >> The U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men.
> >>
> >> These recommendations cover fluids from water, other beverages and food. About 20% of daily fluid intake usually comes from food and the rest from drinks.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > I drink less than 2 cups of water a day. That's an adequate level for me. 3.7 L of water might just kill me.
> >
> I am on a reduced fluid regimen. I am supposed to limit myself to 1 1/2
> to 2 liters of fluid per day. That includes water, tea, coffee, juice
> and any other beverages, plus the milk I have in cereal, high water
> content fruit, yogurt etc. I gauge it relatively carefully but
> sometimes I have to really watch it.

Back in the day, I'd drink a lot of soft drinks. The Hawaiians love soft drinks. I'd get a 32 or 64 oz Big Gulp from 7-11. A lot of people used to do that. These days I don't see that too much. My guess is it's because I don't get around much anymore. I went to the zoo a few weeks ago. I probably got dehydrated and felt sick for a couple of days. Drinking a bunch of water solved that. These days, I just don't get thirsty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT1KD_EP2Cc

On Mon, 31 May 2021 14:15:28 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-05-31 1:24 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:25:35 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:58:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of
>>>> glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.
>>> The U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men.
>>>
>>> These recommendations cover fluids from water, other beverages and food. About 20% of daily fluid intake usually comes from food and the rest from drinks.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I drink less than 2 cups of water a day. That's an adequate level for me. 3.7 L of water might just kill me.
>>
>
>
>
>I am on a reduced fluid regimen. I am supposed to limit myself to 1 1/2
>to 2 liters of fluid per day. That includes water, tea, coffee, juice
>and any other beverages, plus the milk I have in cereal, high water
>content fruit, yogurt etc. I gauge it relatively carefully but
>sometimes I have to really watch it.
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
The other Dave Smith.

On Mon, 31 May 2021 10:24:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:25:35 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:58:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> > My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of
>> > glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.
>> The U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men.
>>
>> These recommendations cover fluids from water, other beverages and food. About 20% of daily fluid intake usually comes from food and the rest from drinks.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>I drink less than 2 cups of water a day. That's an adequate level for me. 3.7 L of water might just kill me.
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
The other Dave Smith.

On Sun, 30 May 2021 09:58:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 3:45:16 AM UTC-10, Opinicus wrote:
>> A pet peeve of mine is growers, manufacturers, advertisers, and
>> friends and acquaintances pushing things on me because they're
>> "natural". The first three groups I ignore; to the friends and
>> acquaintances I relate the story of a doctor treating a patient who's
>> suffering from lung disease but who insists on smoking weed. "The
>> habit is making your condition worse" the doctor admonishes him. "How
>> can that be?" the patient asks. "It's all natural. How can it be bad?"
>> "Apricot stones naturally contain lethal amounts of cyanide. Eat too
>> many and they'll kill you" the doctor replies. "In my back yard
>> there's a plant that, if you sit under it for about ten minutes or so,
>> you'll die. Just because something is ""natural" doesn't mean it's
>> safe or good for you." The patient seems to accept this and says he'll
>> quit and leaves. After he's gone, the nurse in attendance looks at the
>> doctor and asks "What plant will kill you if you sit under it for ten
>> minutes?" "A water lily, of course."
>> --
>> Bob
>> Sidera errantia quibus procella tenebrarum in aeternum servata est
>
>My father-in-law was hospitalized when he OD'ed on the most natural of substances - water. He had read a book that claimed that drinking a lot of water could cure all ills. My guess is that it was a psychiatric problem, mostly. As it goes, water poisoning is a real thing.
>My dentist was recommending that I drink more water. He rattled off some ridiculous number of glasses of water that I should drink every day. I think he might be trying to poison me.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
This is a message from the other Dave Smith.

On Sun, 30 May 2021 16:45:10 +0300, Opinicus
> wrote:

>A pet peeve of mine is growers, manufacturers, advertisers, and
>friends and acquaintances pushing things on me because they're
>"natural". The first three groups I ignore; to the friends and
>acquaintances I relate the story of a doctor treating a patient who's
>suffering from lung disease but who insists on smoking weed. "The
>habit is making your condition worse" the doctor admonishes him. "How
>can that be?" the patient asks. "It's all natural. How can it be bad?"
>"Apricot stones naturally contain lethal amounts of cyanide. Eat too
>many and they'll kill you" the doctor replies. "In my back yard
>there's a plant that, if you sit under it for about ten minutes or so,
>you'll die. Just because something is ""natural" doesn't mean it's
>safe or good for you." The patient seems to accept this and says he'll
>quit and leaves. After he's gone, the nurse in attendance looks at the
>doctor and asks "What plant will kill you if you sit under it for ten
>minutes?" "A water lily, of course."
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
This is a message from the other Dave Smith.