On 4/28/2021 11:31 AM, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-04-28 5:49 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> Â*Â*Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> True that organized labor was a big help to the working class and
>>> improved wages, safety, working conditions. Unfortunately, some of the
>>> unions became infested with criminals and went too far. There were more
>>> interested in collecting dues.
>>>
>>> If I was born into the 1930s working class I'd be a union organizer but
>>> when I hit the workforce I'd never join one and pay the thugs. I had a
>>> front row seat dealing with them for about 17 years.
>>
>> Yep. Unions were a good thing at first but they overstayed their use
>> and became greedy.
>
> So who is greedy now? The effing CEOs who have pushed zero-hours
> contracts and gig working wherever possible.

Aside from desperation I don't see why people take some of those jobs.

I don't begrudge a CEO making big buck but not at the expense of the
workers making poor wages

On 2021-04-28 11:58 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/28/2021 11:31 AM, Graham wrote:
>> On 2021-04-28 5:49 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>> Â*Â*Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> True that organized labor was a big help to the working class and
>>>> improved wages, safety, working conditions. Unfortunately, some of the
>>>> unions became infested with criminals and went too far. There were more
>>>> interested in collecting dues.
>>>>
>>>> If I was born into the 1930s working class I'd be a union organizer but
>>>> when I hit the workforce I'd never join one and pay the thugs. I had a
>>>> front row seat dealing with them for about 17 years.
>>>
>>> Yep. Unions were a good thing at first but they overstayed their use
>>> and became greedy.
>>
>> So who is greedy now? The effing CEOs who have pushed zero-hours
>> contracts and gig working wherever possible.
>
> Aside from desperation I don't see why people take some of those jobs.
>
> I don't begrudge a CEO making big buck but not at the expense of the
> workers making poor wages


CEOs are the ones at the top of the ladder when it comes to
negotiations. The the top CEO's wages and compensation pay more than
200 times the average of their employees.

Union members would like to be able to afford to send their kids to
university. The CEO's send their kids to Ivy League schools and if they
pay a higher salary to the employees the may not be able to afford to
send the kids off to school in a new BMW.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-04-28 11:58 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/28/2021 11:31 AM, Graham wrote:
> > > On 2021-04-28 5:49 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > > > Â*Â*Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > > True that organized labor was a big help to the working class
> > > > > and improved wages, safety, working conditions.
> > > > > Unfortunately, some of the unions became infested with
> > > > > criminals and went too far. There were more interested in
> > > > > collecting dues.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I was born into the 1930s working class I'd be a union
> > > > > organizer but when I hit the workforce I'd never join one and
> > > > > pay the thugs. I had a front row seat dealing with them for
> > > > > about 17 years.
> > > >
> > > > Yep. Unions were a good thing at first but they overstayed
> > > > their use and became greedy.
> > >
> > > So who is greedy now? The effing CEOs who have pushed zero-hours
> > > contracts and gig working wherever possible.
> >
> > Aside from desperation I don't see why people take some of those
> > jobs.
> >
> > I don't begrudge a CEO making big buck but not at the expense of
> > the workers making poor wages
>
>
> CEOs are the ones at the top of the ladder when it comes to
> negotiations. The the top CEO's wages and compensation pay more than
> 200 times the average of their employees.
>
> Union members would like to be able to afford to send their kids to
> university. The CEO's send their kids to Ivy League schools and if
> they pay a higher salary to the employees the may not be able to
> afford to send the kids off to school in a new BMW.

Ask them, theyre here
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 4/28/2021 11:31 AM, Graham wrote:
> > On 2021-04-28 5:49 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > > Â*Â*Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > True that organized labor was a big help to the working class
> > > > and improved wages, safety, working conditions. Unfortunately,
> > > > some of the unions became infested with criminals and went too
> > > > far. There were more interested in collecting dues.
> > > >
> > > > If I was born into the 1930s working class I'd be a union
> > > > organizer but when I hit the workforce I'd never join one and
> > > > pay the thugs. I had a front row seat dealing with them for
> > > > about 17 years.
> > >
> > > Yep. Unions were a good thing at first but they overstayed their
> > > use and became greedy.
> >
> > So who is greedy now? The effing CEOs who have pushed zero-hours
> > contracts and gig working wherever possible.
>
> Aside from desperation I don't see why people take some of those jobs.
>
> I don't begrudge a CEO making big buck but not at the expense of the
> workers making poor wages

And that's why we need unions.

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