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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:16:24 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2021-02-16 10:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >> We took our Urban Assault Vehicle (Toyota FJ Cruiser) out this morning >> because my husband was scheduled for some tests at the hospital. >> I hate driving on it before I snowblow. Couldn't be helped. My wife drives an FJ Cruiser, she loves it. They no longer sell them in the US because people say they have very poor visibility, my wife has no visibility problem and neither do I. >> I do like that locking differential when it's snowy out. By the time >> we were done at the hospital, all the roads had been plowed at >> least once and some were salted. At one point we had to unlock >> the differential, the road was so nice. >> >> The sun is out, it's a balmy 15 F and I'm about to suit up and snowblow >> the 8" we got last night. >> > > >My Honda CRV has automatic four wheel drive and it sure is nice in snow >and icy roads. > >We had about a foot of snow last night. I know what you mean about snow >blowing before driving on it. The tires pack it down and then it's hard >to clean down to the surface. > >I had planned to get out to my driveway by 10am in case we had to go >somewhere, or in case my neighbour had to get out, since the driveway we >share is an unopened road allowance. While I was in the shed getting the >blower started and warmed up my neighbour was already out plowing it >with his tractor. I thought that meant I only had to do the parking area >and sidewalks. When I went to check for the newspaper I saw that the >plow had left a window about 4 feet out from the mail box so I had to >clean that out so the postie would not have an excuse not to deliver my >mail. |
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On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 3:28:49 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:16:24 -0500, Dave Smith > > wrote: > > >On 2021-02-16 10:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > >> We took our Urban Assault Vehicle (Toyota FJ Cruiser) out this morning > >> because my husband was scheduled for some tests at the hospital. > >> I hate driving on it before I snowblow. Couldn't be helped. > My wife drives an FJ Cruiser, she loves it. They no longer sell them > in the US because people say they have very poor visibility, my wife > has no visibility problem and neither do I. Compared to my Highlander, I can't see jack shit out of those short little windows in the FJ. I've always hated driving it. Any vehicle that needs three windshield wipers in front because the windshield is so short has serious issues. <https://www.edmunds.com/toyota/fj-cruiser/2008/review/> Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:39:51 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 3:28:49 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:16:24 -0500, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >> >On 2021-02-16 10:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> > >> >> We took our Urban Assault Vehicle (Toyota FJ Cruiser) out this morning >> >> because my husband was scheduled for some tests at the hospital. >> >> I hate driving on it before I snowblow. Couldn't be helped. >> My wife drives an FJ Cruiser, she loves it. They no longer sell them >> in the US because people say they have very poor visibility, my wife >> has no visibility problem and neither do I. > >Compared to my Highlander, I can't see jack shit out of those short >little windows in the FJ. I've always hated driving it. > >Any vehicle that needs three windshield wipers in front because the >windshield is so short has serious issues. > ><https://www.edmunds.com/toyota/fj-cruiser/2008/review/> > >Cindy Hamilton Only rear visibility was poor so we installed a camera, problem over. |
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On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:08:01 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:39:51 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > > wrote: > > >On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 3:28:49 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > >> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:16:24 -0500, Dave Smith > >> > wrote: > >> > >> >On 2021-02-16 10:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >> > > >> >> We took our Urban Assault Vehicle (Toyota FJ Cruiser) out this morning > >> >> because my husband was scheduled for some tests at the hospital. > >> >> I hate driving on it before I snowblow. Couldn't be helped. > >> My wife drives an FJ Cruiser, she loves it. They no longer sell them > >> in the US because people say they have very poor visibility, my wife > >> has no visibility problem and neither do I. > > > >Compared to my Highlander, I can't see jack shit out of those short > >little windows in the FJ. I've always hated driving it. > > > >Any vehicle that needs three windshield wipers in front because the > >windshield is so short has serious issues. > > > ><https://www.edmunds.com/toyota/fj-cruiser/2008/review/> > > > >Cindy Hamilton > Only rear visibility was poor so we installed a camera, problem over. Ours came with a back-up camera. It spent all of yesterday covered with snow kicked up from the road. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 2/17/2021 10:15 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:08:01 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:39:51 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton >> > wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 3:28:49 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: >>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:16:24 -0500, Dave Smith >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2021-02-16 10:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We took our Urban Assault Vehicle (Toyota FJ Cruiser) out this morning >>>>>> because my husband was scheduled for some tests at the hospital. >>>>>> I hate driving on it before I snowblow. Couldn't be helped. >>>> My wife drives an FJ Cruiser, she loves it. They no longer sell them >>>> in the US because people say they have very poor visibility, my wife >>>> has no visibility problem and neither do I. >>> >>> Compared to my Highlander, I can't see jack shit out of those short >>> little windows in the FJ. I've always hated driving it. >>> >>> Any vehicle that needs three windshield wipers in front because the >>> windshield is so short has serious issues. >>> >>> <https://www.edmunds.com/toyota/fj-cruiser/2008/review/> >>> >>> Cindy Hamilton >> Only rear visibility was poor so we installed a camera, problem over. > > Ours came with a back-up camera. It spent all of yesterday covered > with snow kicked up from the road. > > Cindy Hamilton > How did we all ever survive before backup cameras, heated seats, heated steering wheels and remote turning on to get the interior warm before we came out to drive? |
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On 2/17/2021 8:41 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 2/17/2021 10:15 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:08:01 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: >>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:39:51 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 3:28:49 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:16:24 -0500, Dave Smith >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2021-02-16 10:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We took our Urban Assault Vehicle (Toyota FJ Cruiser) out this morning >>>>>>> because my husband was scheduled for some tests at the hospital. >>>>>>> I hate driving on it before I snowblow. Couldn't be helped. >>>>> My wife drives an FJ Cruiser, she loves it. They no longer sell them >>>>> in the US because people say they have very poor visibility, my wife >>>>> has no visibility problem and neither do I. >>>> >>>> Compared to my Highlander, I can't see jack shit out of those short >>>> little windows in the FJ. I've always hated driving it. >>>> >>>> Any vehicle that needs three windshield wipers in front because the >>>> windshield is so short has serious issues. >>>> >>>> <https://www.edmunds.com/toyota/fj-cruiser/2008/review/> >>>> >>>> Cindy Hamilton >>> Only rear visibility was poor so we installed a camera, problem over. >> >> Ours came with a back-up camera. It spent all of yesterday covered >> with snow kicked up from the road. >> >> Cindy Hamilton >> > How did we all ever survive before backup cameras, heated seats, heated > steering wheels and remote turning on to get the interior warm before we > came out to drive? > > > > > We survived better than we do now. Which has led directly to the Cancel Culture. |
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On 2021-02-17 11:45 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 2/17/2021 8:41 AM, Gary wrote: >> How did we all ever survive before backup cameras, heated seats, heated >> steering wheels and remote turning on to get the interior warm before we >> came out to drive? > > We survived better than we do now.Â* Which has led directly to the Cancel > Culture. I don't know how much of the cancer is caused by stuff like that. I think we see more cancer now because more people live long enough to get it. The next time you watch a something on the classic movies channel go online and Google the cast. It is amazing to see how many died of heart attacks in their 40s and 50s. A lot of them also died in their 40s to 60s of lung cancer because they were all heavy smokers. |
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On 2021-02-17 11:41 a.m., Gary wrote:
> How did we all ever survive before backup cameras, heated seats, heated > steering wheels and remote turning on to get the interior warm before we > came out to drive? LOL Kids these days don't know how easy they have it ;-) Due to incidents when I was 14-15 I was not allowed to get my driver license as soon as I turned 16. However, I joined the militia and, since we were a technical unit, we were all taught to drive and I had a DND license months before I got my regular license. All of the military vehicles we drove had manual transmissions.They did not have power brakes or power steering. There was no electronic ignition. They all had a choke, so you had to learn how to use that, know when to use it, how much choke to use, when to shut it off. If you wanted fresh air you had to crank the window down, or use the no-draft window. I don't know when VWs started putting in heaters and fans. We had a Karmin Ghia for a while and you didn't have any air flowing on the windshield until you were moving. And radios and TVs... they had tubes so they had to warm up for as much as a minute. If you wanted to turn it on or off or to change the station who had to walk over to it and turn a dial.... by hand. I don't know how we survived. |
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On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 11:41:37 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> On 2/17/2021 10:15 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:08:01 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:39:51 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > >> > wrote: > >> > >>> On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 3:28:49 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > >>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:16:24 -0500, Dave Smith > >>>> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 2021-02-16 10:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> We took our Urban Assault Vehicle (Toyota FJ Cruiser) out this morning > >>>>>> because my husband was scheduled for some tests at the hospital. > >>>>>> I hate driving on it before I snowblow. Couldn't be helped. > >>>> My wife drives an FJ Cruiser, she loves it. They no longer sell them > >>>> in the US because people say they have very poor visibility, my wife > >>>> has no visibility problem and neither do I. > >>> > >>> Compared to my Highlander, I can't see jack shit out of those short > >>> little windows in the FJ. I've always hated driving it. > >>> > >>> Any vehicle that needs three windshield wipers in front because the > >>> windshield is so short has serious issues. > >>> > >>> <https://www.edmunds.com/toyota/fj-cruiser/2008/review/> > >>> > >>> Cindy Hamilton > >> Only rear visibility was poor so we installed a camera, problem over. > > > > Ours came with a back-up camera. It spent all of yesterday covered > > with snow kicked up from the road. > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > > How did we all ever survive before backup cameras, heated seats, heated > steering wheels and remote turning on to get the interior warm before we > came out to drive? The same way I survive right now. My car doesn't have a backup camera, heated seats, heated steering wheel, or remote start. This morning I went out in -4 F weather, started it up and drove to work. The FJ Cruiser with backup camera and remote start is my husband's ride. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 6:41:37 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> On 2/17/2021 10:15 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:08:01 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:39:51 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > >> > wrote: > >> > >>> On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 3:28:49 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > >>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:16:24 -0500, Dave Smith > >>>> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 2021-02-16 10:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> We took our Urban Assault Vehicle (Toyota FJ Cruiser) out this morning > >>>>>> because my husband was scheduled for some tests at the hospital. > >>>>>> I hate driving on it before I snowblow. Couldn't be helped. > >>>> My wife drives an FJ Cruiser, she loves it. They no longer sell them > >>>> in the US because people say they have very poor visibility, my wife > >>>> has no visibility problem and neither do I. > >>> > >>> Compared to my Highlander, I can't see jack shit out of those short > >>> little windows in the FJ. I've always hated driving it. > >>> > >>> Any vehicle that needs three windshield wipers in front because the > >>> windshield is so short has serious issues. > >>> > >>> <https://www.edmunds.com/toyota/fj-cruiser/2008/review/> > >>> > >>> Cindy Hamilton > >> Only rear visibility was poor so we installed a camera, problem over. > > > > Ours came with a back-up camera. It spent all of yesterday covered > > with snow kicked up from the road. > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > > How did we all ever survive before backup cameras, heated seats, heated > steering wheels and remote turning on to get the interior warm before we > came out to drive? Back in the 80's a DOHC, all alloy, multi-valve, variable valve timing, direct injection, computer controlled, engine with an inter-cooled turbo, would seem to be exotic beyond belief. These days, that stuff is commonplace. From one point of view they are modern miracles, from another, they are a throwback to the days of steam engines. In the future, the kids are going to avoid gas engine cars like the plague. It will be seen as primitive, old-fashioned technology. |
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dsi1 wrote:
> In the future, the kids are going to avoid gas engine cars like the plague. Why wait until the future? Amish kids have been doing that for over a hundred years now. |
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:15:45 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:08:01 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:39:51 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton >> > wrote: >> >> >On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 3:28:49 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: >> >> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:16:24 -0500, Dave Smith >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >On 2021-02-16 10:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> We took our Urban Assault Vehicle (Toyota FJ Cruiser) out this morning >> >> >> because my husband was scheduled for some tests at the hospital. >> >> >> I hate driving on it before I snowblow. Couldn't be helped. >> >> My wife drives an FJ Cruiser, she loves it. They no longer sell them >> >> in the US because people say they have very poor visibility, my wife >> >> has no visibility problem and neither do I. >> > >> >Compared to my Highlander, I can't see jack shit out of those short >> >little windows in the FJ. I've always hated driving it. >> > >> >Any vehicle that needs three windshield wipers in front because the >> >windshield is so short has serious issues. >> > >> ><https://www.edmunds.com/toyota/fj-cruiser/2008/review/> >> > >> >Cindy Hamilton >> Only rear visibility was poor so we installed a camera, problem over. > >Ours came with a back-up camera. It spent all of yesterday covered >with snow kicked up from the road. > >Cindy Hamilton Really don't need a rear camera unless you're backing up. For driving straight ahead there's no need to see where you've been. |
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On 2021-02-17 11:57 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:15:45 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton >> Ours came with a back-up camera. It spent all of yesterday covered >> with snow kicked up from the road. >> >> Cindy Hamilton > > Really don't need a rear camera unless you're backing up. For driving > straight ahead there's no need to see where you've been. > Back up cameras are handy when you back into a parking space and you can see how much room you have. It's handy when someone behind has parked really badly and is sticking a foot or more into your space. You can get back to within in an inch or two and ensure that you have room ahead to get out. |
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 13:00:13 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2021-02-17 11:57 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:15:45 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > >>> Ours came with a back-up camera. It spent all of yesterday covered >>> with snow kicked up from the road. >>> >>> Cindy Hamilton >> >> Really don't need a rear camera unless you're backing up. For driving >> straight ahead there's no need to see where you've been. >> > >Back up cameras are handy when you back into a parking space and you can >see how much room you have. It's handy when someone behind has parked >really badly and is sticking a foot or more into your space. You can get >back to within in an inch or two and ensure that you have room ahead to >get out. My cars have front, back, a bit of the sides in those areas, and overhead views. Took me a few months to trust the cameras, but I adore them now. |
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On 2/17/2021 8:57 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:15:45 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > > wrote: > >> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:08:01 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: >>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:39:51 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 3:28:49 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:16:24 -0500, Dave Smith >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2021-02-16 10:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We took our Urban Assault Vehicle (Toyota FJ Cruiser) out this morning >>>>>>> because my husband was scheduled for some tests at the hospital. >>>>>>> I hate driving on it before I snowblow. Couldn't be helped. >>>>> My wife drives an FJ Cruiser, she loves it. They no longer sell them >>>>> in the US because people say they have very poor visibility, my wife >>>>> has no visibility problem and neither do I. >>>> >>>> Compared to my Highlander, I can't see jack shit out of those short >>>> little windows in the FJ. I've always hated driving it. >>>> >>>> Any vehicle that needs three windshield wipers in front because the >>>> windshield is so short has serious issues. >>>> >>>> <https://www.edmunds.com/toyota/fj-cruiser/2008/review/> >>>> >>>> Cindy Hamilton >>> Only rear visibility was poor so we installed a camera, problem over. >> >> Ours came with a back-up camera. It spent all of yesterday covered >> with snow kicked up from the road. >> >> Cindy Hamilton > > Really don't need a rear camera unless you're backing up. For driving > straight ahead there's no need to see where you've been. > I like to watch in the back up camera and see all the people yelling and waving their fists at me. |
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Taxed and Spent wrote:
> I like to watch in the back up camera and see all the people yelling and > waving their fists at me. heh heh ![]() |
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On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 11:57:38 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:15:45 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > > wrote: > > >On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:08:01 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:39:51 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > >> > wrote: > >> > >> >On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 3:28:49 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > >> >> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:16:24 -0500, Dave Smith > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >On 2021-02-16 10:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> We took our Urban Assault Vehicle (Toyota FJ Cruiser) out this morning > >> >> >> because my husband was scheduled for some tests at the hospital. > >> >> >> I hate driving on it before I snowblow. Couldn't be helped. > >> >> My wife drives an FJ Cruiser, she loves it. They no longer sell them > >> >> in the US because people say they have very poor visibility, my wife > >> >> has no visibility problem and neither do I. > >> > > >> >Compared to my Highlander, I can't see jack shit out of those short > >> >little windows in the FJ. I've always hated driving it. > >> > > >> >Any vehicle that needs three windshield wipers in front because the > >> >windshield is so short has serious issues. > >> > > >> ><https://www.edmunds.com/toyota/fj-cruiser/2008/review/> > >> > > >> >Cindy Hamilton > >> Only rear visibility was poor so we installed a camera, problem over. > > > >Ours came with a back-up camera. It spent all of yesterday covered > >with snow kicked up from the road. > > > >Cindy Hamilton > Really don't need a rear camera unless you're backing up. For driving > straight ahead there's no need to see where you've been. Every once in a while I like to look behind me. For example, if I'm going to stop or to see if there's an emergency vehicle coming up behind me. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 8:16:39 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 11:57:38 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:15:45 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > > > wrote: > > > > >On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:08:01 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > > >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:39:51 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >> >On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 3:28:49 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > > >> >> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:16:24 -0500, Dave Smith > > >> >> > wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> >On 2021-02-16 10:53 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> We took our Urban Assault Vehicle (Toyota FJ Cruiser) out this morning > > >> >> >> because my husband was scheduled for some tests at the hospital. > > >> >> >> I hate driving on it before I snowblow. Couldn't be helped. > > >> >> My wife drives an FJ Cruiser, she loves it. They no longer sell them > > >> >> in the US because people say they have very poor visibility, my wife > > >> >> has no visibility problem and neither do I. > > >> > > > >> >Compared to my Highlander, I can't see jack shit out of those short > > >> >little windows in the FJ. I've always hated driving it. > > >> > > > >> >Any vehicle that needs three windshield wipers in front because the > > >> >windshield is so short has serious issues. > > >> > > > >> ><https://www.edmunds.com/toyota/fj-cruiser/2008/review/> > > >> > > > >> >Cindy Hamilton > > >> Only rear visibility was poor so we installed a camera, problem over. > > > > > >Ours came with a back-up camera. It spent all of yesterday covered > > >with snow kicked up from the road. > > > > > >Cindy Hamilton > > Really don't need a rear camera unless you're backing up. For driving > > straight ahead there's no need to see where you've been. > Every once in a while I like to look behind me. For example, if I'm going > to stop or to see if there's an emergency vehicle coming up behind me. > > Cindy Hamilton That was the great thing about the Dodge Dakota I use to drive - visibility while backing up was awesome. The AC was also awesome. The doors were not so great and in the end, it torpedoed the truck. |
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Every once in a while I like to look behind me. For example, if I'm going > to stop or to see if there's an emergency vehicle coming up behind me. I like to do that too. My mirrors work well for that. |
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