On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 2:27:47 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:24:56 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 1:19:37 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:01:51 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:55:16 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:58:07 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > > >> I have heard and read rumors that state that this EVOO is a fake and a scam.
> > > > >> I bought some anyway. Fact or fiction?
> > > > >> https://deoleo.info/the-14-fake-oliv...bout-bertolli/
> > > > >One day, you might be getting your olive oil from China.
> > > > >http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/202..._139203912.htm
> > > > And it will be full of melamine, because that makes it cheaper.
> > > The Chinese market for olive oil is huge. Ironically, the Chinese don't even like olive oil. I like soybean oil myself. It's even cheaper than Chinese olive oil.
> > Soybean oil is the crappiest oil. It's even worse than canola.
> >
> > --Bryan
> Soybean suits my high temperature cooking style. Olive oil does not. I don't like the smell of corn oil or canola oil. Da bajillons of pakes in China cannot be wrong!

https://www.verywellfit.com/smoke-po...g-oils-4781972

Soybean oil isn't even listed. Maybe it's considered too disgusting
to be an option.

--Bryan

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:40:54 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 2:27:47 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:24:56 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 1:19:37 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:01:51 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:55:16 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:58:07 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > > > >> I have heard and read rumors that state that this EVOO is a fake and a scam.
> > > > > >> I bought some anyway. Fact or fiction?
> > > > > >> https://deoleo.info/the-14-fake-oliv...bout-bertolli/
> > > > > >One day, you might be getting your olive oil from China.
> > > > > >http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/202..._139203912.htm
> > > > > And it will be full of melamine, because that makes it cheaper.
> > > > The Chinese market for olive oil is huge. Ironically, the Chinese don't even like olive oil. I like soybean oil myself. It's even cheaper than Chinese olive oil.
> > > Soybean oil is the crappiest oil. It's even worse than canola.
> > >
> > > --Bryan
> > Soybean suits my high temperature cooking style. Olive oil does not. I don't like the smell of corn oil or canola oil. Da bajillons of pakes in China cannot be wrong!
> https://www.verywellfit.com/smoke-po...g-oils-4781972
>
> Soybean oil isn't even listed. Maybe it's considered too disgusting
> to be an option.
>
> --Bryan
453 degrees. Soybean oil is a cheap, high temperature, neutral taste, oil. What's not to like?

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 3:33:29 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:40:54 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 2:27:47 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:24:56 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 1:19:37 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:01:51 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:55:16 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:58:07 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > > > > >> I have heard and read rumors that state that this EVOO is a fake and a scam.
> > > > > > >> I bought some anyway. Fact or fiction?
> > > > > > >> https://deoleo.info/the-14-fake-oliv...bout-bertolli/
> > > > > > >One day, you might be getting your olive oil from China.
> > > > > > >http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/202..._139203912.htm
> > > > > > And it will be full of melamine, because that makes it cheaper.
> > > > > The Chinese market for olive oil is huge. Ironically, the Chinese don't even like olive oil. I like soybean oil myself. It's even cheaper than Chinese olive oil.
> > > > Soybean oil is the crappiest oil. It's even worse than canola.
> > > >
> > > > --Bryan
> > > Soybean suits my high temperature cooking style. Olive oil does not. I don't like the smell of corn oil or canola oil. Da bajillons of pakes in China cannot be wrong!
> > https://www.verywellfit.com/smoke-po...g-oils-4781972
> >
> > Soybean oil isn't even listed. Maybe it's considered too disgusting
> > to be an option.
> >
> > --Bryan
> 453 degrees. Soybean oil is a cheap, high temperature, neutral taste, oil. What's not to like?

It's not a neutral taste. There are folks here you say that you are
very non-discerning about food. In this case, they'd be correct.
Soy oil is the cheapest, shittiest tasting oil, other than maybe
Canola. There's a reason why those of us who can taste the
difference don't buy cheap, shitty oils. Even me, who is Mr.
Frugality wouldn't use soy oil for anything other than starting a
campfire. Sunflower oil is neutral. Peanut oil is reasonably
neutral. Soy oil is just cheap.

--Bryan

On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:54:32 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 3:33:29 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:

>> 453 degrees. Soybean oil is a cheap, high temperature, neutral taste, oil. What's not to like?
>
>It's not a neutral taste. There are folks here you say that you are
>very non-discerning about food. In this case, they'd be correct.
>Soy oil is the cheapest, shittiest tasting oil, other than maybe
>Canola. There's a reason why those of us who can taste the
>difference don't buy cheap, shitty oils. Even me, who is Mr.
>Frugality wouldn't use soy oil for anything other than starting a
>campfire. Sunflower oil is neutral. Peanut oil is reasonably
>neutral. Soy oil is just cheap.
>
Then it's the perfect oil for the Chinese.
>

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 3:33:29 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:40:54 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 2:27:47 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:24:56 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 1:19:37 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:01:51 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:55:16 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:58:07 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > > > > > >> I have heard and read rumors that state that this EVOO is a fake and a scam.
> > > > > > > >> I bought some anyway. Fact or fiction?
> > > > > > > >> https://deoleo.info/the-14-fake-oliv...bout-bertolli/
> > > > > > > >One day, you might be getting your olive oil from China.
> > > > > > > >http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/202..._139203912.htm
> > > > > > > And it will be full of melamine, because that makes it cheaper.
> > > > > > The Chinese market for olive oil is huge. Ironically, the Chinese don't even like olive oil. I like soybean oil myself. It's even cheaper than Chinese olive oil.
> > > > > Soybean oil is the crappiest oil. It's even worse than canola.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Bryan
> > > > Soybean suits my high temperature cooking style. Olive oil does not.. I don't like the smell of corn oil or canola oil. Da bajillons of pakes in China cannot be wrong!
> > > https://www.verywellfit.com/smoke-po...g-oils-4781972
> > >
> > > Soybean oil isn't even listed. Maybe it's considered too disgusting
> > > to be an option.
> > >
> > > --Bryan
> > 453 degrees. Soybean oil is a cheap, high temperature, neutral taste, oil. What's not to like?
> It's not a neutral taste. There are folks here you say that you are
> very non-discerning about food. In this case, they'd be correct.
> Soy oil is the cheapest, shittiest tasting oil, other than maybe
> Canola. There's a reason why those of us who can taste the
> difference don't buy cheap, shitty oils. Even me, who is Mr.
> Frugality wouldn't use soy oil for anything other than starting a
> campfire. Sunflower oil is neutral. Peanut oil is reasonably
> neutral. Soy oil is just cheap.
>
> --Bryan
How much soybean oil have you tasted? I've tasted a lot of olive oil. It has a paint thinner taste to me. I'd be stupid to eat something that tastes like that. Don't give me that "you should be eating a more expensive, brand." That line is a lot of hogwash. They all have that unpleasant taste. My guess is that you're tasting old, used, soy bean oil.

On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 14:05:03 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 3:33:29 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:40:54 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 2:27:47 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>> > > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:24:56 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> > > > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 1:19:37 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>> > > > > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:01:51 AM UTC-10, Master Bruce wrote:
>> > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:55:16 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:58:07 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> > > > > > > >> I have heard and read rumors that state that this EVOO is a fake and a scam.
>> > > > > > > >> I bought some anyway. Fact or fiction?
>> > > > > > > >> https://deoleo.info/the-14-fake-oliv...bout-bertolli/
>> > > > > > > >One day, you might be getting your olive oil from China.
>> > > > > > > >http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/202..._139203912.htm
>> > > > > > > And it will be full of melamine, because that makes it cheaper.
>> > > > > > The Chinese market for olive oil is huge. Ironically, the Chinese don't even like olive oil. I like soybean oil myself. It's even cheaper than Chinese olive oil.
>> > > > > Soybean oil is the crappiest oil. It's even worse than canola.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --Bryan
>> > > > Soybean suits my high temperature cooking style. Olive oil does not. I don't like the smell of corn oil or canola oil. Da bajillons of pakes in China cannot be wrong!
>> > > https://www.verywellfit.com/smoke-po...g-oils-4781972
>> > >
>> > > Soybean oil isn't even listed. Maybe it's considered too disgusting
>> > > to be an option.
>> > >
>> > > --Bryan
>> > 453 degrees. Soybean oil is a cheap, high temperature, neutral taste, oil. What's not to like?
>> It's not a neutral taste. There are folks here you say that you are
>> very non-discerning about food. In this case, they'd be correct.
>> Soy oil is the cheapest, shittiest tasting oil, other than maybe
>> Canola. There's a reason why those of us who can taste the
>> difference don't buy cheap, shitty oils. Even me, who is Mr.
>> Frugality wouldn't use soy oil for anything other than starting a
>> campfire. Sunflower oil is neutral. Peanut oil is reasonably
>> neutral. Soy oil is just cheap.
>>
>> --Bryan
>How much soybean oil have you tasted? I've tasted a lot of olive oil. It has a paint thinner taste to me. I'd be stupid to eat something that tastes like that. Don't give me that "you should be eating a more expensive, brand." That line is a lot of hogwash. They all have that unpleasant taste. My guess is that you're tasting old, used, soy bean oil.
>
You should be eating a better brand. Maybe your Asianness makes you
buy the cheapest of the cheapest brands?
>

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:05:08 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-10, wrote:

> How much soybean oil have you tasted? I've tasted a lot of olive oil. It has a paint thinner taste to me. I'd be stupid to eat something that tastes like that. Don't give me that "you should be eating a more expensive, brand." That line is a lot of hogwash. They all have that unpleasant taste. My guess is that you're tasting old, used, soy bean oil.

Do you like the taste of olives?

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 5:07:49 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:05:08 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>
> > How much soybean oil have you tasted? I've tasted a lot of olive oil. It has a paint thinner taste to me. I'd be stupid to eat something that tastes like that. Don't give me that "you should be eating a more expensive, brand." That line is a lot of hogwash. They all have that unpleasant taste. My guess is that you're tasting old, used, soy bean oil.
> Do you like the taste of olives?

I can understand disliking olive oil. What I don't get is thinking
soybean oil is neutral.

It looks like one of my tenants is moving out. I hope the other one
has found a new housemate, or can handle the rent by himself
until he does. The guy is loading up a Uhaul truck at 6 in the
freakin' morning, when it's still pitch dark and is 25F.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

On 12/18/2020 7:12 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 5:07:49 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:05:08 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>
>>> How much soybean oil have you tasted? I've tasted a lot of olive oil. It has a paint thinner taste to me. I'd be stupid to eat something that tastes like that. Don't give me that "you should be eating a more expensive, brand." That line is a lot of hogwash. They all have that unpleasant taste. My guess is that you're tasting old, used, soy bean oil.
>> Do you like the taste of olives?
>
> I can understand disliking olive oil. What I don't get is thinking
> soybean oil is neutral.
>
> It looks like one of my tenants is moving out. I hope the other one
> has found a new housemate, or can handle the rent by himself
> until he does. The guy is loading up a Uhaul truck at 6 in the
> freakin' morning, when it's still pitch dark and is 25F.
> --Bryan
>
Oh goody, here we go with 'tenants'. How does this differ you from Kuthe?

Jill

On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:07:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:05:08 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>
> > How much soybean oil have you tasted? I've tasted a lot of olive oil. It has a paint thinner taste to me. I'd be stupid to eat something that tastes like that. Don't give me that "you should be eating a more expensive, brand." That line is a lot of hogwash. They all have that unpleasant taste. My guess is that you're tasting old, used, soy bean oil.
> Do you like the taste of olives?
>
> Cindy Hamilton
I do. Olives taste like olives, olive oil tastes like paint thinner. That's so weird.

On 12/18/2020 12:11 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:07:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:05:08 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>
>>> How much soybean oil have you tasted? I've tasted a lot of olive oil. It has a paint thinner taste to me. I'd be stupid to eat something that tastes like that. Don't give me that "you should be eating a more expensive, brand." That line is a lot of hogwash. They all have that unpleasant taste. My guess is that you're tasting old, used, soy bean oil.
>> Do you like the taste of olives?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
> I do. Olives taste like olives, olive oil tastes like paint thinner. That's so weird.
>

It is. I like the paint thinner version and never eat olives. Add some
herbs and it is good for bread dipping.

On 2020-12-18 12:11 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:07:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:05:08 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>
>>> How much soybean oil have you tasted? I've tasted a lot of olive oil. It has a paint thinner taste to me. I'd be stupid to eat something that tastes like that. Don't give me that "you should be eating a more expensive, brand." That line is a lot of hogwash. They all have that unpleasant taste. My guess is that you're tasting old, used, soy bean oil.
>> Do you like the taste of olives?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
> I do. Olives taste like olives, olive oil tastes like paint thinner. That's so weird.
>

The taste of olives depends mostly on how they are processed. Canned
olives are basically substandard at the best of times. Canned black
olives are an abomination. I get olives only in delis or at grocery
store olive bars, and both typically have at least a half dozen
varieties. As for paint thinner..... I disagree, My preferred grease for
a grilled cheese sandwich is olive oil. Speaking of which, it is lunch
time here. I think that is what I will have for lunch.

On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 12:11:55 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:07:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:05:08 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> >
> > > How much soybean oil have you tasted? I've tasted a lot of olive oil. It has a paint thinner taste to me. I'd be stupid to eat something that tastes like that. Don't give me that "you should be eating a more expensive, brand." That line is a lot of hogwash. They all have that unpleasant taste. My guess is that you're tasting old, used, soy bean oil.
> > Do you like the taste of olives?
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> I do. Olives taste like olives, olive oil tastes like paint thinner. That's so weird.

Fair enough. I have a friend who likes the taste of olive oil and hates the
taste of olives.

Cindy Hamilton

On 12/18/2020 9:11 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:07:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:05:08 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:54:36 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>
>>> How much soybean oil have you tasted? I've tasted a lot of olive oil. It has a paint thinner taste to me. I'd be stupid to eat something that tastes like that. Don't give me that "you should be eating a more expensive, brand." That line is a lot of hogwash. They all have that unpleasant taste. My guess is that you're tasting old, used, soy bean oil.
>> Do you like the taste of olives?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
> I do. Olives taste like olives, olive oil tastes like paint thinner. That's so weird.
>


This explains why you add soy sauce "only" as coloring.