I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them and
it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting wood
with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
autosubscribe failed last month).

It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the driver.

Looks like about 5 minutes away.

Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but it
was a nice experience!

On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
> I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them and
> it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting wood
> with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
> autosubscribe failed last month).
>
> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the driver.
>
> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>
> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but it
> was a nice experience!
>

Not sure what you did from the title. Sounds like you ordered groceries
from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 11:51:27 -0600, cshenk wrote:

> I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them and
> it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting wood
> with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
> autosubscribe failed last month).
>
> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the driver.
>
> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>
> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but it
> was a nice experience!

My main s/m will deliver for $10 but the wine shops deliver any amount for
nothing. I suppose that is a reflection of the mark-ups.

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 11:51:27 -0600, cshenk wrote:

> I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them and
> it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting wood
> with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
> autosubscribe failed last month).
>
> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the driver.
>
> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>
> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but it
> was a nice experience!

Do you mean Amazon Fresh? Because Hello Fresh doesn't deliver same
day, and doesn't sell individual ingredients.

-sw

On 12/13/2020 1:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> I got a delivery on it's way!Â* It's the first time I have used them and
>> it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting wood
>> with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
>> autosubscribe failed last month).
>>
>> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either.Â* Had to get organic
>> chicken for example.Â* Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
>> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the driver.
>>
>> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>>
>> Ok, gone now!Â* It all looks very good.Â* I won't do it regular, but it
>> was a nice experience!
>>
>
> Not sure what you did from the title.Â* Sounds like you ordered groceries
> from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.

I'm a tad puzzled, too. I thought Hello Fresh was a subscription
service delivering pre-packaged, albeit fresh, quick meal kits.

Jill

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them
> > and it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting
> > wood with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
> > autosubscribe failed last month).
> >
> > It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
> > chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
> > Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the
> > driver.
> >
> > Looks like about 5 minutes away.
> >
> > Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but
> > it was a nice experience!
> >
>
> Not sure what you did from the title. Sounds like you ordered
> groceries from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.

Sorry, Amazon. Thought that was the name but it's close!

Sqwertz wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 11:51:27 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>
> > I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them
> > and it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting
> > wood with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
> > autosubscribe failed last month).
> >
> > It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
> > chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
> > Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the
> > driver.
> >
> > Looks like about 5 minutes away.
> >
> > Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but
> > it was a nice experience!
>
> Do you mean Amazon Fresh? Because Hello Fresh doesn't deliver same
> day, and doesn't sell individual ingredients.
>
> -sw

Yup, got the name wrong.

Either way, it won't be a regular thing for me but it was a nice
option. My day was a little hemmed in.

Morning: promised bread to a local grass roots 'soup kitchen/free
pantry'. Double batched for 4lbs worth in 4 freeform 1/2lb ones, 2 1lb
loaf pan sets. They picked up at 12:30.

Don off to lumber store at 11 and back about 12:15 with 1x6 and 2x4.

Off to go measure for a wheelchair ramp at about 1:30 (very close by)
and home again in time to watch Don head out to watch the Dolphins at a
game (I think it was them). Now all done for the day and contemplating
dinner.

On 12/13/2020 3:07 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them
>>> and it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting
>>> wood with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
>>> autosubscribe failed last month).
>>>
>>> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
>>> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
>>> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the
>>> driver.
>>>
>>> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>>>
>>> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but
>>> it was a nice experience!
>>>
>>
>> Not sure what you did from the title. Sounds like you ordered
>> groceries from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.
>
> Sorry, Amazon. Thought that was the name but it's close!
>
Sorry, it's not close.

Jill

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:19:58 -0600, cshenk wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 11:51:27 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>>
>>> I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them
>>> and it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting
>>> wood with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
>>> autosubscribe failed last month).
>>>
>>> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
>>> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
>>> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the
>>> driver.
>>>
>>> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>>>
>>> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but
>>> it was a nice experience!
>>
>> Do you mean Amazon Fresh? Because Hello Fresh doesn't deliver same
>> day, and doesn't sell individual ingredients.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Yup, got the name wrong.
>
> Either way, it won't be a regular thing for me but it was a nice
> option. My day was a little hemmed in.
>
> Morning: promised bread to a local grass roots 'soup kitchen/free
> pantry'. Double batched for 4lbs worth in 4 freeform 1/2lb ones, 2 1lb
> loaf pan sets. They picked up at 12:30.
>
> Don off to lumber store at 11 and back about 12:15 with 1x6 and 2x4.
>
> Off to go measure for a wheelchair ramp at about 1:30 (very close by)
> and home again in time to watch Don head out to watch the Dolphins at a
> game (I think it was them). Now all done for the day and contemplating
> dinner.

Where does the gardener fit into all this?

ObFood: I'm making 2 9x12 lasagnas. Or however many until I run out
of ingredients.

-sw

Sqwertz wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:19:58 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 11:51:27 -0600, cshenk wrote:
> >>
> >>> I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used
> them >>> and it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was
> getting >>> wood with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap
> (forgot an >>> autosubscribe failed last month).
> >>>
> >>> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
> >>> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
> >>> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the
> >>> driver.
> >>>
> >>> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
> >>>
> >>> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but
> >>> it was a nice experience!
> >>
> >> Do you mean Amazon Fresh? Because Hello Fresh doesn't deliver same
> >> day, and doesn't sell individual ingredients.
> >>
> >> -sw
> >
> > Yup, got the name wrong.
> >
> > Either way, it won't be a regular thing for me but it was a nice
> > option. My day was a little hemmed in.
> >
> > Morning: promised bread to a local grass roots 'soup kitchen/free
> > pantry'. Double batched for 4lbs worth in 4 freeform 1/2lb ones, 2
> > 1lb loaf pan sets. They picked up at 12:30.
> >
> > Don off to lumber store at 11 and back about 12:15 with 1x6 and 2x4.
> >
> > Off to go measure for a wheelchair ramp at about 1:30 (very close
> > by) and home again in time to watch Don head out to watch the
> > Dolphins at a game (I think it was them). Now all done for the day
> > and contemplating dinner.
>
> Where does the gardener fit into all this?

LOL, no gardener here.

I did have some landscaping done though. Fellow dug out a roughly
5ftx5ft section and put in some simple flowers and new topsoil. Later
we will mulch it to help prevents weeds.


>
> ObFood: I'm making 2 9x12 lasagnas. Or however many until I run out
> of ingredients.

Works for me!

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 16:14:22 -0600, cshenk wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> Where does the gardener fit into all this?
>
> LOL, no gardener here.

No Gardener!?!?! Get a life already, sheesh!

-sw

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
>I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them and
> it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting wood
> with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
> autosubscribe failed last month).
>
> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the driver.
>
> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>
> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but it
> was a nice experience!

That type of thing wouldn't pay off for me. I've seen the menus and I
wouldn't eat most of what they have.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them and
>> it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting wood
>> with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
>> autosubscribe failed last month).
>>
>> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
>> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
>> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the driver.
>>
>> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>>
>> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but it
>> was a nice experience!
>>
>
> Not sure what you did from the title. Sounds like you ordered groceries
> from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.

Yeah.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/13/2020 1:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them and
>>> it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting wood
>>> with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
>>> autosubscribe failed last month).
>>>
>>> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
>>> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
>>> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the driver.
>>>
>>> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>>>
>>> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but it
>>> was a nice experience!
>>>
>>
>> Not sure what you did from the title. Sounds like you ordered groceries
>> from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.
>
> I'm a tad puzzled, too. I thought Hello Fresh was a subscription service
> delivering pre-packaged, albeit fresh, quick meal kits.

It is. Complete with little dabs of spices.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> > I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them
>> > and it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting
>> > wood with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
>> > autosubscribe failed last month).
>> >
>> > It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
>> > chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
>> > Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the
>> > driver.
>> >
>> > Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>> >
>> > Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but
>> > it was a nice experience!
>> >
>>
>> Not sure what you did from the title. Sounds like you ordered
>> groceries from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.
>
> Sorry, Amazon. Thought that was the name but it's close!

Ah... You mean Amazon Fresh. I order from them sometimes but here they're
backed up. It can take several days to a week to get the food. By then, they
may be out of what you ordered.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/13/2020 3:07 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them
>>>> and it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting
>>>> wood with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
>>>> autosubscribe failed last month).
>>>>
>>>> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
>>>> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
>>>> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the
>>>> driver.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but
>>>> it was a nice experience!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not sure what you did from the title. Sounds like you ordered
>>> groceries from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.
>>
>> Sorry, Amazon. Thought that was the name but it's close!
>>
> Sorry, it's not close.

Actually it is. One of the grocery deliver options is Amazon Fresh. They
also have Prime Now and some sort of pantry thing. I've never used that one.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:19:58 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 11:51:27 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>>>
>>>> I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them
>>>> and it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting
>>>> wood with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
>>>> autosubscribe failed last month).
>>>>
>>>> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
>>>> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
>>>> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the
>>>> driver.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but
>>>> it was a nice experience!
>>>
>>> Do you mean Amazon Fresh? Because Hello Fresh doesn't deliver same
>>> day, and doesn't sell individual ingredients.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> Yup, got the name wrong.
>>
>> Either way, it won't be a regular thing for me but it was a nice
>> option. My day was a little hemmed in.
>>
>> Morning: promised bread to a local grass roots 'soup kitchen/free
>> pantry'. Double batched for 4lbs worth in 4 freeform 1/2lb ones, 2 1lb
>> loaf pan sets. They picked up at 12:30.
>>
>> Don off to lumber store at 11 and back about 12:15 with 1x6 and 2x4.
>>
>> Off to go measure for a wheelchair ramp at about 1:30 (very close by)
>> and home again in time to watch Don head out to watch the Dolphins at a
>> game (I think it was them). Now all done for the day and contemplating
>> dinner.
>
> Where does the gardener fit into all this?
>
He's building the wheelchair ramp, of course!

> ObFood: I'm making 2 9x12 lasagnas. Or however many until I run out
> of ingredients.

I'm having the rest of the chili.

On 12/13/2020 9:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 12/13/2020 3:07 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>> I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them
>>>>> and it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting
>>>>> wood with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
>>>>> autosubscribe failed last month).
>>>>>
>>>>> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
>>>>> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
>>>>> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the
>>>>> driver.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but
>>>>> it was a nice experience!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what you did from the title. Sounds like you ordered
>>>> groceries from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.
>>>
>>> Sorry, Amazon. Thought that was the name but it's close!
>>>
>> Sorry, it's not close.
>
> Actually it is. One of the grocery deliver options is Amazon Fresh. They
> also have Prime Now and some sort of pantry thing. I've never used that
> one.

WTH is with all this grocery ordering? Maybe different areas. I go to
my grocery store once a week or two and find anything that I want.
Plenty of produce too that I can pick and choose from. I don't get it
unless you are sick and stuck at home.

Gary wrote:

> On 12/13/2020 9:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On 12/13/2020 3:07 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >>>>> I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them
> >>>>> and it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting
> >>>>> wood with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
> >>>>> autosubscribe failed last month).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
> >>>>> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
> >>>>> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the
> >>>>> driver.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but
> >>>>> it was a nice experience!
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Not sure what you did from the title. Sounds like you ordered
> >>>> groceries from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, Amazon. Thought that was the name but it's close!
> >>>
> >> Sorry, it's not close.
> >
> > Actually it is. One of the grocery deliver options is Amazon Fresh. They
> > also have Prime Now and some sort of pantry thing. I've never used that
> > one.
> WTH is with all this grocery ordering? Maybe different areas. I go to
> my grocery store once a week or two and find anything that I want.
> Plenty of produce too that I can pick and choose from. I don't get it
> unless you are sick and stuck at home.


I've used Amazon Fresh almost exclusively for groceries since March, I'm never going back to in - store shopping for most stuff. I am also car - less, delivery means I don't have to lug heavy groceries for blocks (or use public transportation, which I actually used to do!). I've been using Amazon Pantry for years, very handy for bulk/heavy items. COVID - wise, I am in a "danger" demographic, so that is another factor in my eschewing in - person shopping. The only retail I physically visit now are my "small - town" bakery, hardware store, cleaners, pizzeria and likker store, all are just around the corner and never crowded...all else is delivered by Amazon or other online retailers. Vast selection, great prices/quality/customer service and fabulous convenience, plus don't have to suffer annoying people/situations*, what is not to love...

*clueless seniors/college/ students/wierdos in my way, aggressive panhandlers at store entrances - or even IN the store, long lines, stores being out - of - stock of items that I need, limited hours...also I am something of a germaphobe, so another plus for online - I've seen people doing filthy things in stores, e.g. opening sealed products and replacing on shelf, OCD types touching every single item, etc...

--
Best
Greg

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 Sqwertz wrote:
>On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 cshenk wrote:
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> Where does the gardener fit into all this?
>>
>> LOL, no gardener here.
>
>No Gardener!?!?! Get a life already, sheesh!
>
>-sw

She likely has a battery operated gardener... it's green plastic so
she calls it her Jolly Green Giant. LOL

"Gary" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/13/2020 9:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 12/13/2020 3:07 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>> I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have used them
>>>>>> and it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting
>>>>>> wood with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
>>>>>> autosubscribe failed last month).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get organic
>>>>>> chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
>>>>>> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the
>>>>>> driver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it regular, but
>>>>>> it was a nice experience!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what you did from the title. Sounds like you ordered
>>>>> groceries from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, Amazon. Thought that was the name but it's close!
>>>>
>>> Sorry, it's not close.
>>
>> Actually it is. One of the grocery deliver options is Amazon Fresh. They
>> also have Prime Now and some sort of pantry thing. I've never used that
>> one.
>
> WTH is with all this grocery ordering? Maybe different areas. I go to my
> grocery store once a week or two and find anything that I want. Plenty of
> produce too that I can pick and choose from. I don't get it unless you
> are sick and stuck at home.

We're on lockown here. We're supposed to stay home. I did go to Winco (only
because I was at the Dr. next door) today to stock up on paper towels, only
to find that they too are now rationing. *sigh*

Walmart has a new thing now, perhaps because I paid for a year of grocery
delivery. I can get free shipping on most items (not perishables) with no
minimum. I was out of crackers, save for one small box. I ordered some late
last night. Two boxes were on my doorstep when I woke up. The rest will come
later.

This saves me money. No gas used. No wear and tear on my car.

On 12/14/20 5:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 12/13/2020 9:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 12/13/2020 3:07 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>> I got a delivery on it's way!Â* It's the first time I have used them
>>>>>>> and it was to ease a schedule when at the same time Don was getting
>>>>>>> wood with a friend and we ran out of dishwasher soap (forgot an
>>>>>>> autosubscribe failed last month).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It wasn't bad on prices but not great either.Â* Had to get organic
>>>>>>> chicken for example.Â* Limes were 50cents instead of 3/1$ in store.
>>>>>>> Overall, about 5$ more for my selections plus a 5$ tip for the
>>>>>>> driver.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like about 5 minutes away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, gone now!Â* It all looks very good.Â* I won't do it regular, but
>>>>>>> it was a nice experience!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure what you did from the title.Â* Sounds like you ordered
>>>>>> groceries from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, Amazon.Â* Thought that was the name but it's close!
>>>>>
>>>> Sorry, it's not close.
>>>
>>> Actually it is. One of the grocery deliver options is Amazon Fresh. They
>>> also have Prime Now and some sort of pantry thing. I've never used that
>>> one.
>>
>> WTH is with all this grocery ordering? Maybe different areas.Â* I go to
>> my grocery store once a week or two and find anything that I want.
>> Plenty of produce too that I can pick and choose from.Â* I don't get it
>> unless you are sick and stuck at home.
>
> We're on lockown here. We're supposed to stay home. I did go to Winco
> (only because I was at the Dr. next door) today to stock up on paper
> towels, only to find that they too are now rationing. *sigh*
>
> Walmart has a new thing now, perhaps because I paid for a year of
> grocery delivery. I can get free shipping on most items (not
> perishables) with no minimum. I was out of crackers, save for one small
> box. I ordered some late last night. Two boxes were on my doorstep when
> I woke up. The rest will come later.
>
> This saves me money. No gas used. No wear and tear on my car.
and less money in your pocket

Gary wrote:

> On 12/13/2020 9:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >"jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On 12/13/2020 3:07 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > > > I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have
> > > > > > used them and it was to ease a schedule when at the same
> > > > > > time Don was getting wood with a friend and we ran out of
> > > > > > dishwasher soap (forgot an autosubscribe failed last month).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get
> > > > > > organic chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of
> > > > > > 3/1$ in store. Overall, about 5$ more for my selections
> > > > > > plus a 5$ tip for the driver.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looks like about 5 minutes away.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it
> > > > > > regular, but it was a nice experience!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Not sure what you did from the title. Sounds like you ordered
> > > > > groceries from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, Amazon. Thought that was the name but it's close!
> > > >
> > > Sorry, it's not close.
> >
> > Actually it is. One of the grocery deliver options is Amazon Fresh.
> > They also have Prime Now and some sort of pantry thing. I've never
> > used that one.
>
> WTH is with all this grocery ordering? Maybe different areas. I go
> to my grocery store once a week or two and find anything that I want.
> Plenty of produce too that I can pick and choose from. I don't get
> it unless you are sick and stuck at home.

See the later messages. I had a busy day and opted to try it out for
once. Not a regular thing.

Gary wrote:

> On 12/13/2020 9:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >"jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On 12/13/2020 3:07 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 12/13/2020 12:51 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > > > I got a delivery on it's way! It's the first time I have
> > > > > > used them and it was to ease a schedule when at the same
> > > > > > time Don was getting wood with a friend and we ran out of
> > > > > > dishwasher soap (forgot an autosubscribe failed last month).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It wasn't bad on prices but not great either. Had to get
> > > > > > organic chicken for example. Limes were 50cents instead of
> > > > > > 3/1$ in store. Overall, about 5$ more for my selections
> > > > > > plus a 5$ tip for the driver.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looks like about 5 minutes away.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, gone now! It all looks very good. I won't do it
> > > > > > regular, but it was a nice experience!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Not sure what you did from the title. Sounds like you ordered
> > > > > groceries from a store but Hello Fresh delivers meal kits.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, Amazon. Thought that was the name but it's close!
> > > >
> > > Sorry, it's not close.
> >
> > Actually it is. One of the grocery deliver options is Amazon Fresh.
> > They also have Prime Now and some sort of pantry thing. I've never
> > used that one.
>
> WTH is with all this grocery ordering? Maybe different areas. I go
> to my grocery store once a week or two and find anything that I want.
> Plenty of produce too that I can pick and choose from. I don't get
> it unless you are sick and stuck at home.

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 1:26:49 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 Sqwertz wrote:
> >On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 cshenk wrote:
> >> Sqwertz wrote:
> >>
> >>> Where does the gardener fit into all this?
> >>
> >> LOL, no gardener here.
> >
> >No Gardener!?!?! Get a life already, sheesh!
> >
> >-sw
> She likely has a battery operated gardener... it's green plastic so
> she calls it her Jolly Green Giant. LOL

For some reason, I am reminded of one of my favorite albums.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn8q5BdIh0k

--Bryan

On 2020 Dec 14, , GM wrote
(in >):

> *clueless seniors/college/ students/wierdos in my way, aggressive panhandlers
> at store entrances - or even IN the store, long lines, stores being out - of
> - stock of items that I need, limited hours...also I am something of a
> germaphobe, so another plus for online - I've seen people doing filthy things
> in stores, e.g. opening sealed products and replacing on shelf, OCD types
> touching every single item, etc...

I still shop about once a week at my grocery store. Speaking of loose seals,
I bought a jar of Nathan´s refrigerated sauerkraut the other day for
weenies and kraut. When I opened it last night, I saw an anomaly in the
shrink seal. Then the top opened rather easily. Nathan´s tops are usually a
bear to open. I noticed some blackened kraut on the inside of the lid.
It was sauerkraut, for Heaven´s sake. I´ve seen sauerkraut sold in
unrefrigerated barrels in a delicatessen. I neglected to tell the women of my
concerns, and we ate it. So far, so good.

leo

Leo wrote:

> On 2020 Dec 14, , GM wrote
> (in >):
> > *clueless seniors/college/ students/wierdos in my way, aggressive panhandlers
> > at store entrances - or even IN the store, long lines, stores being out - of
> > - stock of items that I need, limited hours...also I am something of a
> > germaphobe, so another plus for online - I've seen people doing filthy things
> > in stores, e.g. opening sealed products and replacing on shelf, OCD types
> > touching every single item, etc...
> I still shop about once a week at my grocery store. Speaking of loose seals,
> I bought a jar of Nathan´s refrigerated sauerkraut the other day for
> weenies and kraut. When I opened it last night, I saw an anomaly in the
> shrink seal. Then the top opened rather easily. Nathan´s tops are usually a
> bear to open. I noticed some blackened kraut on the inside of the lid.
> It was sauerkraut, for Heaven´s sake. I´ve seen sauerkraut sold in
> unrefrigerated barrels in a delicatessen. I neglected to tell the women of my
> concerns, and we ate it. So far, so good.


Well, here you are, still walking amongst us, Leo...

;-)

I would really be oogied out, shopping a hundred or so years ago, I guess....and I would have been *thrilled* when cellophane for packaging came along....wiki:

"Whitman's candy company initiated use of cellophane for candy wrapping in the United States in 1912 for their Whitman's Sampler. They remained the largest user of imported cellophane from France until nearly 1924, when DuPont built the first cellophane manufacturing plant in the US. Cellophane saw limited sales in the US at first since while it was waterproof, it was not moisture proof€”it held water but was permeable to water vapor. This meant that it was unsuited to packaging products that required moisture proofing. DuPont hired chemist William Hale Charch, who spent three years developing a nitrocellulose lacquer that, when applied to Cellophane, made it moisture proof. Following the introduction of moisture-proof Cellophane in 1927, the material's sales tripled between 1928 and 1930, and in 1938, Cellophane accounted for 10% of DuPont's sales and 25% of its profits.

Cellophane played a crucial role in developing the self-service retailing of fresh meat, according to Roger Horowitz, who ran a historic study over the meat-packing industry. Cellophane visibility helped customers know quality of meat before buying. Cellophane also allowed manufacturers to manipulate the appearance of a product by controlling oxygen and moisture levels to prevent discoloration of food..."



--
Best
Greg

On 2020 Dec 15, , GM wrote
(in >):

> Cellophane played a crucial role in developing the self-service retailing of
> fresh meat, according to Roger Horowitz, who ran a historic study over the
> meat-packing industry. Cellophane visibility helped customers know quality of
> meat before buying. Cellophane also allowed manufacturers to manipulate the
> appearance of a product by controlling oxygen and moisture levels to prevent
> discoloration of food..."

Can we imagine food prepared in 1900? Food was either dry goods, salted or
sugared in some way or eaten fresh. That wasn´t long ago in generational
terms. My dad was born in 1901. I´m sure others will find exceptions such
as root cellars for some forms of preservation.

leo

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 1:34:40 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 14, , GM wrote
> (in >):
> > *clueless seniors/college/ students/wierdos in my way, aggressive panhandlers
> > at store entrances - or even IN the store, long lines, stores being out - of
> > - stock of items that I need, limited hours...also I am something of a
> > germaphobe, so another plus for online - I've seen people doing filthy things
> > in stores, e.g. opening sealed products and replacing on shelf, OCD types
> > touching every single item, etc...
> I still shop about once a week at my grocery store. Speaking of loose seals,
> I bought a jar of Nathan´s refrigerated sauerkraut the other day for
> weenies and kraut. When I opened it last night, I saw an anomaly in the
> shrink seal. Then the top opened rather easily. Nathan´s tops are usually a
> bear to open. I noticed some blackened kraut on the inside of the lid.
> It was sauerkraut, for Heaven´s sake. I´ve seen sauerkraut sold in
> unrefrigerated barrels in a delicatessen. I neglected to tell the women of my
> concerns, and we ate it. So far, so good.
>
> leo
You are very wise. What goes on in the kitchen, stays in the kitchen. This is why I never check out the kitchen of any Chinese restaurant I eat in. That would be very dumb.

On 2020-12-15 8:03 p.m., Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 15, , GM wrote
> (in >):
>
>> Cellophane played a crucial role in developing the self-service retailing of
>> fresh meat, according to Roger Horowitz, who ran a historic study over the
>> meat-packing industry. Cellophane visibility helped customers know quality of
>> meat before buying. Cellophane also allowed manufacturers to manipulate the
>> appearance of a product by controlling oxygen and moisture levels to prevent
>> discoloration of food..."
>
> Can we imagine food prepared in 1900? Food was either dry goods, salted or
> sugared in some way or eaten fresh. That wasn´t long ago in generational
> terms. My dad was born in 1901. I´m sure others will find exceptions such
> as root cellars for some forms of preservation.

I was born in 1950 and things were a lot different back then. Small
towns had small grocery stores and there were small grocery stores every
few blocks in the nearby cities. Most of the food products were canned.
There was a small freezer section and most of the stuff in it was ice
cream or frozen orange juice concentrate. There weren't many frozen
vegetables. People didn't have freezers big enough to hold them. TV
dinners were new and I think the idea of them was that a single person
might have room for a couple of them in the freezer, or they would buy
the frozen dinner and take it home and cook it that night.

Fruits and vegetables were seasonal. We had stuff like peaches and
berries when they were in season locally, apples and pears in the fall
and for as long as they would keep in storage. Carrots, potatoes and
onions were available most of the year. Oranges were a rare treat. Out
of season fruit and vegetables came in cans.

A lot of people still canned their own fruits and vegetables. People
would buy bushels and bushels of whatever was in season and take them
home to "put up". Our family home, built in 1953, had a fruit cellar.

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:11:16 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 1:34:40 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Dec 14, , GM wrote
>> (in >):
>> > *clueless seniors/college/ students/wierdos in my way, aggressive panhandlers
>> > at store entrances - or even IN the store, long lines, stores being out - of
>> > - stock of items that I need, limited hours...also I am something of a
>> > germaphobe, so another plus for online - I've seen people doing filthy things
>> > in stores, e.g. opening sealed products and replacing on shelf, OCD types
>> > touching every single item, etc...
>> I still shop about once a week at my grocery store. Speaking of loose seals,
>> I bought a jar of Nathan´s refrigerated sauerkraut the other day for
>> weenies and kraut. When I opened it last night, I saw an anomaly in the
>> shrink seal. Then the top opened rather easily. Nathan´s tops are usually a
>> bear to open. I noticed some blackened kraut on the inside of the lid.
>> It was sauerkraut, for Heaven´s sake. I´ve seen sauerkraut sold in
>> unrefrigerated barrels in a delicatessen. I neglected to tell the women of my
>> concerns, and we ate it. So far, so good.
>>
>> leo
>You are very wise. What goes on in the kitchen, stays in the kitchen. This is why I never check out the kitchen of any Chinese restaurant I eat in. That would be very dumb.
>
Yes, especially in a Chinese restaurant.
>

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 8:03:47 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 15, , GM wrote
> (in >):
> > Cellophane played a crucial role in developing the self-service retailing of
> > fresh meat, according to Roger Horowitz, who ran a historic study over the
> > meat-packing industry. Cellophane visibility helped customers know quality of
> > meat before buying. Cellophane also allowed manufacturers to manipulate the
> > appearance of a product by controlling oxygen and moisture levels to prevent
> > discoloration of food..."
> Can we imagine food prepared in 1900? Food was either dry goods, salted or
> sugared in some way or eaten fresh. That wasn´t long ago in generational
> terms. My dad was born in 1901. I´m sure others will find exceptions such
> as root cellars for some forms of preservation.
>
> leo

Can we imagine that canning was invented in the 1800s, as were cornflakes
and a bunch of other prepared foods?

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 8:33:57 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-15 8:03 p.m., Leo wrote:
> > On 2020 Dec 15, , GM wrote
> > (in >):
> >
> >> Cellophane played a crucial role in developing the self-service retailing of
> >> fresh meat, according to Roger Horowitz, who ran a historic study over the
> >> meat-packing industry. Cellophane visibility helped customers know quality of
> >> meat before buying. Cellophane also allowed manufacturers to manipulate the
> >> appearance of a product by controlling oxygen and moisture levels to prevent
> >> discoloration of food..."
> >
> > Can we imagine food prepared in 1900? Food was either dry goods, salted or
> > sugared in some way or eaten fresh. That wasn´t long ago in generational
> > terms. My dad was born in 1901. I´m sure others will find exceptions such
> > as root cellars for some forms of preservation.
> I was born in 1950 and things were a lot different back then. Small
> towns had small grocery stores and there were small grocery stores every
> few blocks in the nearby cities. Most of the food products were canned.
> There was a small freezer section and most of the stuff in it was ice
> cream or frozen orange juice concentrate. There weren't many frozen
> vegetables. People didn't have freezers big enough to hold them. TV
> dinners were new and I think the idea of them was that a single person
> might have room for a couple of them in the freezer, or they would buy
> the frozen dinner and take it home and cook it that night.
>
> Fruits and vegetables were seasonal. We had stuff like peaches and
> berries when they were in season locally, apples and pears in the fall
> and for as long as they would keep in storage. Carrots, potatoes and
> onions were available most of the year. Oranges were a rare treat. Out
> of season fruit and vegetables came in cans.
>
> A lot of people still canned their own fruits and vegetables. People
> would buy bushels and bushels of whatever was in season and take them
> home to "put up". Our family home, built in 1953, had a fruit cellar.

I was born in 1957 and lived in the Detroit suburbs. As far back as I can
remember, my family shopped at a supermarket (much smaller than
today's) and bought meat wrapped in plastic. My grandparents had
a deep freeze. Apples, iceberg lettuce, and tomatoes were available year round,
but as you say oranges were seasonal. And off-season produce was
pretty bad.

One of my grandmother's friends made red raspberry jam and always
brought us a jar. My great-aunt made pickles. Other than that, nobody
I knew put up their own vegetables. My grandparents' home was
built in the 1930s and had a fruit cellar. It's where they stored the
canned goods they bought at the grocery store.

My grandfather was born in Detroit. My mother was born in the
Detroit suburbs. My grandmother was born in Roanoke, VA and
moved to Detroit when she was a little girl.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:03:41 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Dec 15, , GM wrote
>(in >):
>
>> Cellophane played a crucial role in developing the self-service retailing of
>> fresh meat, according to Roger Horowitz, who ran a historic study over the
>> meat-packing industry. Cellophane visibility helped customers know quality of
>> meat before buying. Cellophane also allowed manufacturers to manipulate the
>> appearance of a product by controlling oxygen and moisture levels to prevent
>> discoloration of food..."
>
>Can we imagine food prepared in 1900? Food was either dry goods, salted or
>sugared in some way or eaten fresh. That wasn´t long ago in generational
>terms. My dad was born in 1901. I´m sure others will find exceptions such
>as root cellars for some forms of preservation.
>
>leo

Not cellophane, plastic wrap. And nowadays it's tinted to make
produce and meats appear of a superior quality.

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 20:33:51 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-12-15 8:03 p.m., Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Dec 15, , GM wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>>> Cellophane played a crucial role in developing the self-service retailing of
>>> fresh meat, according to Roger Horowitz, who ran a historic study over the
>>> meat-packing industry. Cellophane visibility helped customers know quality of
>>> meat before buying. Cellophane also allowed manufacturers to manipulate the
>>> appearance of a product by controlling oxygen and moisture levels to prevent
>>> discoloration of food..."
>>
>> Can we imagine food prepared in 1900? Food was either dry goods, salted or
>> sugared in some way or eaten fresh. That wasn´t long ago in generational
>> terms. My dad was born in 1901. I´m sure others will find exceptions such
>> as root cellars for some forms of preservation.
>
>I was born in 1950 and things were a lot different back then. Small
>towns had small grocery stores and there were small grocery stores every
>few blocks in the nearby cities. Most of the food products were canned.
> There was a small freezer section and most of the stuff in it was ice
>cream or frozen orange juice concentrate. There weren't many frozen
>vegetables. People didn't have freezers big enough to hold them. TV
>dinners were new and I think the idea of them was that a single person
>might have room for a couple of them in the freezer, or they would buy
>the frozen dinner and take it home and cook it that night.
>
>Fruits and vegetables were seasonal. We had stuff like peaches and
>berries when they were in season locally, apples and pears in the fall
>and for as long as they would keep in storage. Carrots, potatoes and
>onions were available most of the year. Oranges were a rare treat. Out
>of season fruit and vegetables came in cans.
>
>A lot of people still canned their own fruits and vegetables. People
>would buy bushels and bushels of whatever was in season and take them
>home to "put up". Our family home, built in 1953, had a fruit cellar.

In the '50s most people bought hand dipped ice cream that they ate
right away, there were no factory packaged half gallons or quarts,
home freezers were too small to fit a quart nor were they cold enough
to keep ice cream for more than a couple hours.... ice cream contains
salt so didn't freeze well in home freezers back then. Home freezers
were small, could hold two ice cube trays and a couple pounds of
meat... people living in cold climates used the outdoors as freezers
during winter... they often used the outdoors as a fridge too. We
sometimes use our unheated garage as a fridge and often as a
freezer... I mounted a thermometer on the wall in the garage. This
morning it was 22ºF outdoors, down to 17ºF now, and a blizzard
expected this afternoon, saying 18" of snow.

I just returned from bringing Miche to the Vet, potty problems but
he's home now, waiting for results from blood work. We think he got
into the dried food mix we use to feed birds as he threw some up, a
mix of cracked corn, seeds, and kitten chow, he loves kitten chow but
this is the first time he got some cracked corn... if we forget to
close the pantry door right away he will claw into the dried food
bags... time to keep the bird food mix in a steel can. The Vet didn't
think the bird food was anything to worry about. With this Chinese
virus going to the Vet is a big PIA, we have to let them know we
arrived, they come to get the animal but we can't go inside. This
time I did the trip to the Vet myself as my wife had a doctor
appointment. Nowadays most people have a cell phone to let the Vet
know they arrived but all I have is a flip phone that I never use so
don't remember how... I have that flip phone five years and have never
used it. To be honest I don't like push button phones, I constantly
misdial. That's how I know I'm old, I'm used to a phone with a rotary
dial... I do much better with clocks that have hands, I mess up
setting the timer on the stove and microwave... my Rolex doesn't work
for today's youngsters, has hands, even a sweep second hand, but no
numbers, just markings. When I'm working outdoors I often use my
sundial.

Sheldon wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 20:33:51 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2020-12-15 8:03 p.m., Leo wrote:
> >> On 2020 Dec 15, , GM wrote
> >> (in >):
> >>
> >>> Cellophane played a crucial role in developing the self-service retailing of
> >>> fresh meat, according to Roger Horowitz, who ran a historic study over the
> >>> meat-packing industry. Cellophane visibility helped customers know quality of
> >>> meat before buying. Cellophane also allowed manufacturers to manipulate the
> >>> appearance of a product by controlling oxygen and moisture levels to prevent
> >>> discoloration of food..."
> >>
> >> Can we imagine food prepared in 1900? Food was either dry goods, salted or
> >> sugared in some way or eaten fresh. That wasn´t long ago in generational
> >> terms. My dad was born in 1901. I´m sure others will find exceptions such
> >> as root cellars for some forms of preservation.
> >
> >I was born in 1950 and things were a lot different back then. Small
> >towns had small grocery stores and there were small grocery stores every
> >few blocks in the nearby cities. Most of the food products were canned.
> > There was a small freezer section and most of the stuff in it was ice
> >cream or frozen orange juice concentrate. There weren't many frozen
> >vegetables. People didn't have freezers big enough to hold them. TV
> >dinners were new and I think the idea of them was that a single person
> >might have room for a couple of them in the freezer, or they would buy
> >the frozen dinner and take it home and cook it that night.
> >
> >Fruits and vegetables were seasonal. We had stuff like peaches and
> >berries when they were in season locally, apples and pears in the fall
> >and for as long as they would keep in storage. Carrots, potatoes and
> >onions were available most of the year. Oranges were a rare treat. Out
> >of season fruit and vegetables came in cans.
> >
> >A lot of people still canned their own fruits and vegetables. People
> >would buy bushels and bushels of whatever was in season and take them
> >home to "put up". Our family home, built in 1953, had a fruit cellar.
> In the '50s most people bought hand dipped ice cream that they ate
> right away, there were no factory packaged half gallons or quarts,
> home freezers were too small to fit a quart nor were they cold enough
> to keep ice cream for more than a couple hours.... ice cream contains
> salt so didn't freeze well in home freezers back then. Home freezers
> were small, could hold two ice cube trays and a couple pounds of
> meat... people living in cold climates used the outdoors as freezers
> during winter... they often used the outdoors as a fridge too. We
> sometimes use our unheated garage as a fridge and often as a
> freezer... I mounted a thermometer on the wall in the garage. This
> morning it was 22ÅŸF outdoors, down to 17ÅŸF now, and a blizzard
> expected this afternoon, saying 18" of snow.
>
> I just returned from bringing Miche to the Vet, potty problems but
> he's home now, waiting for results from blood work. We think he got
> into the dried food mix we use to feed birds as he threw some up, a
> mix of cracked corn, seeds, and kitten chow, he loves kitten chow but
> this is the first time he got some cracked corn... if we forget to
> close the pantry door right away he will claw into the dried food
> bags... time to keep the bird food mix in a steel can. The Vet didn't
> think the bird food was anything to worry about. With this Chinese
> virus going to the Vet is a big PIA, we have to let them know we
> arrived, they come to get the animal but we can't go inside. This
> time I did the trip to the Vet myself as my wife had a doctor
> appointment. Nowadays most people have a cell phone to let the Vet
> know they arrived but all I have is a flip phone that I never use so
> don't remember how... I have that flip phone five years and have never
> used it. To be honest I don't like push button phones, I constantly
> misdial. That's how I know I'm old, I'm used to a phone with a rotary
> dial... I do much better with clocks that have hands, I mess up
> setting the timer on the stove and microwave... my Rolex doesn't work
> for today's youngsters, has hands, even a sweep second hand, but no
> numbers, just markings. When I'm working outdoors I often use my
> sundial.


If today's kids used their "hands" more, there would be fewer teenage pregnancies...

--
Best
Greg

On 2020-12-16 12:49 p.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 20:33:51 -0500, Dave Smith

> In the '50s most people bought hand dipped ice cream that they ate
> right away, there were no factory packaged half gallons or quarts,
> home freezers were too small to fit a quart nor were they cold enough
> to keep ice cream for more than a couple hours.... ice cream contains
> salt so didn't freeze well in home freezers back then.

Ice cream contains salt??? There may be just a pinch of salt in some
recipes. I never used it. There is enough sugar in it to lower the
freezing temperature, and the alcohol in the vanilla extract. Old hand
cranked ice cream makers used a combination of ice and rock salt. The
salt acted to reduce the freezing point of water to help the heat
transfer to freeze the product.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2020-12-16 12:49 p.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 20:33:51 -0500, Dave Smith
>
> > In the '50s most people bought hand dipped ice cream that they ate
> > right away, there were no factory packaged half gallons or quarts,
> > home freezers were too small to fit a quart nor were they cold
> > enough to keep ice cream for more than a couple hours.... ice cream
> > contains salt so didn't freeze well in home freezers back then.
>
> Ice cream contains salt??? There may be just a pinch of salt in some
> recipes. I never used it. There is enough sugar in it to lower the
> freezing temperature, and the alcohol in the vanilla extract. Old
> hand cranked ice cream makers used a combination of ice and rock
> salt. The salt acted to reduce the freezing point of water to help
> the heat transfer to freeze the product.

I'm not sure if Sheldon ever made icecream but the salt goes in the
outer container, not in the actual ice cream just like you say.

cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2020-12-16 12:49 p.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 20:33:51 -0500, Dave Smith
>>
>>> In the '50s most people bought hand dipped ice cream that they ate
>>> right away, there were no factory packaged half gallons or quarts,
>>> home freezers were too small to fit a quart nor were they cold
>>> enough to keep ice cream for more than a couple hours.... ice cream
>>> contains salt so didn't freeze well in home freezers back then.
>>
>> Ice cream contains salt??? There may be just a pinch of salt in some
>> recipes. I never used it. There is enough sugar in it to lower the
>> freezing temperature, and the alcohol in the vanilla extract. Old
>> hand cranked ice cream makers used a combination of ice and rock
>> salt. The salt acted to reduce the freezing point of water to help
>> the heat transfer to freeze the product.
>
> I'm not sure if Sheldon ever made icecream but the salt goes in the
> outer container, not in the actual ice cream just like you say.
>

Popeye probably made jewish ice cream. Who knows what that
incorporates as ingredients. Hell, he probably used human breast
milk. Or even semen.

Could have whacked off over it too. Maybe served it up with varnish
kashas or other jewish tortillas.