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S Viemeister wrote:
> On 21/10/2020 04:24, cshenk wrote: > > S Viemeister wrote: > > > On 20/10/2020 00:49, cshenk wrote: > > > > Sheldon Martin wrote: > > > > > Ordinary bread is not fussy about type of flour, AP should be > > > > > fine. I'd say the yeast is suspect, probably old. I always > > > > > proof yeast prior to use, even with my bread machine. Simply > > > > > stir the yeast into a cup of slightly sweetened water, if it > > > > > foams then it's good to use. And I keep my yeast in the > > > > > freezer and still I proof it. If yeast is sitting out at room > > > > > temperature it's likely dead... even most stores keep yeast > > > > > refrigerated, but if frozen it will keep well for at least ten > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > Ummm, never saw yeast sold refridgerated, ever. > > > > > > > Blocks of fresh yeast are sold refrigerated. > > > > This is USA and bread machine yeast. > > > The yeast I refer to was purchased in a supermarket in the USA. Well, dunno what you got. 'Fresh yeast' can be misleading. Noted you say 'blocks'. Thats the cake of yeast stuff? Why the heck would you use that? |
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 23:18:31 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>S Viemeister wrote: > >> On 21/10/2020 04:24, cshenk wrote: >> > S Viemeister wrote: >> > > On 20/10/2020 00:49, cshenk wrote: >> > > > Sheldon Martin wrote: >> > > > > Ordinary bread is not fussy about type of flour, AP should be >> > > > > fine. I'd say the yeast is suspect, probably old. I always >> > > > > proof yeast prior to use, even with my bread machine. Simply >> > > > > stir the yeast into a cup of slightly sweetened water, if it >> > > > > foams then it's good to use. And I keep my yeast in the >> > > > > freezer and still I proof it. If yeast is sitting out at room >> > > > > temperature it's likely dead... even most stores keep yeast >> > > > > refrigerated, but if frozen it will keep well for at least ten >> > > > > years. >> > > > >> > > > Ummm, never saw yeast sold refridgerated, ever. >> > > > >> > > Blocks of fresh yeast are sold refrigerated. >> > >> > This is USA and bread machine yeast. >> > >> The yeast I refer to was purchased in a supermarket in the USA. > >Well, dunno what you got. 'Fresh yeast' can be misleading. It can? >Noted you say 'blocks'. Thats the cake of yeast stuff? Why the heck would you >use that? Why not? |
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On 24/10/2020 05:18, cshenk wrote:
> S Viemeister wrote: >> On 21/10/2020 04:24, cshenk wrote: >>> S Viemeister wrote: >>>> Blocks of fresh yeast are sold refrigerated. >>> This is USA and bread machine yeast. >> The yeast I refer to was purchased in a supermarket in the USA. > > Well, dunno what you got. 'Fresh yeast' can be misleading. Noted you > say 'blocks'. Thats the cake of yeast stuff? Why the heck would you > use that? > Fresh, moist, compressed blocks of yeast, not dried stuff. Different yeasts can give different results, and affect the taste of the finished product. I don't use an automatic bread machine, so I am not limited to bread machine dried yeast. |
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On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 9:25:08 PM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 24/10/2020 05:18, cshenk wrote: > > S Viemeister wrote: > >> On 21/10/2020 04:24, cshenk wrote: > >>> S Viemeister wrote: > >>>> Blocks of fresh yeast are sold refrigerated. > >>> This is USA and bread machine yeast. > >> The yeast I refer to was purchased in a supermarket in the USA. > > > > Well, dunno what you got. 'Fresh yeast' can be misleading. Noted you > > say 'blocks'. Thats the cake of yeast stuff? Why the heck would you > > use that? > > > Fresh, moist, compressed blocks of yeast, not dried stuff. Different > yeasts can give different results, and affect the taste of the finished > product. > I don't use an automatic bread machine, so I am not limited to bread > machine dried yeast. Bread machine yeast is kind of a scam. It's just repackaged active dry yeast. Most people use the envelopes. Yeast is yeast is yeast. If they bake a lot, they might get a jar of yeast. I get a 2 lb bag of yeast at Costco or Sam's Club. I don't proof my yeast most times because I'm fairly sure the product's good. |
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On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 5:28:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:47:59 AM UTC-10, GM wrote: > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > > On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:23:52 AM UTC-10, Thomas wrote: > > > > On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 1:32:28 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote: > > > > > Sheldon Martin > wrote in > > > > > : > > > > > > On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 02:53:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>On Saturday, October 17, 2020 at 10:55:30 AM UTC-4, KenK wrote: > > > > > >>> I've done some experimenting with my old bread machine. I used > > > > > >>> all-purpose flour and active dry yeast. The loaf was very small, > > > > > >>> hard and lumpy. I tried again with bread flour amd bread mahine > > > > > >>> yeast. Nice large tasty loaves. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I'm surprised that the flour and yeast made that much difference. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I last used the machine many years ago and I thought I had > > > > > >>> successfully used all-purpose flour and regular yeast then. Maybe > > > > > >>> flour and yeast have changed since then? > > > > > >> > > > > > >>What kind of all-purpose flour was it? A soft, southern-style flour > > > > > >>that's good for biscuits? Or a higher-protein northern flour? If you > > > > > >>don't know the protein content, we can guess from the brand name. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Cindy Hamilton > > > > > > > > > > > > Ordinary bread is not fussy about type of flour, AP should be fine. > > > > > > I'd say the yeast is suspect, probably old. I always proof yeast > > > > > > prior to use, even with my bread machine. Simply stir the yeast into > > > > > > a cup of slightly sweetened water, if it foams then it's good to use. > > > > > > And I keep my yeast in the freezer and still I proof it. If yeast is > > > > > > sitting out at room temperature it's likely dead... even most stores > > > > > > keep yeast refrigerated, but if frozen it will keep well for at least > > > > > > ten years. > > > > > > > > > > > I did proof the yeast as I had had it a long time. Foamed nicely as ever. > > > > > -- > > > > > I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. > > > > Started baking since pandemic. Bought bread machine, bought books and the machine is now in the basement. > > > > I do all pizza, bagels and bread by hand. By hand you will quickly learn what is right. > > > I like to mix up yeast dough in a Ziploc bag. Everything goes into a bag and mixed and kneaded. You don't get flour all over the place and you can even knead while watching a Three Stooges short. When kneading the dough you no longer use your arms and shoulders. You use only your hands. That could be a good thing - or not. > > > > > > This could be used as a male masturbation device. Do Moe, Larry & Curly turn you on? > > > > <grin> > You're the expert, you tell me. My guess is that any tool within your reach can be used to spill your seed. Yoose is like the MacGyver of masturbation. > That would be a funny epitaph, The MacGyver of masturbation. I sometimes think of practical jokes that would only be practical if I won the lottery. One is to make fake tombstones with absurd epitaphs, and sneak them into cemeteries. [fake name] Born Feb. 17, 1956 Died June 21, 1990 He was truly the MacGyver of Onanism Every so often you could drive through the cemetery to see if it had been removed. --Bryan |
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 9:25:08 PM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote: > > On 24/10/2020 05:18, cshenk wrote: > > > S Viemeister wrote: > > >> On 21/10/2020 04:24, cshenk wrote: > > >>> S Viemeister wrote: > > >>>> Blocks of fresh yeast are sold refrigerated. > > >>> This is USA and bread machine yeast. > > >> The yeast I refer to was purchased in a supermarket in the USA. > > > > > > Well, dunno what you got. 'Fresh yeast' can be misleading. > > > Noted you say 'blocks'. Thats the cake of yeast stuff? Why the > > > heck would you use that? > > > > > Fresh, moist, compressed blocks of yeast, not dried stuff. > > Different yeasts can give different results, and affect the taste > > of the finished product. > > I don't use an automatic bread machine, so I am not limited to > > bread machine dried yeast. > > Bread machine yeast is kind of a scam. It's just repackaged active > dry yeast. Most people use the envelopes. Yeast is yeast is yeast. If > they bake a lot, they might get a jar of yeast. I get a 2 lb bag of > yeast at Costco or Sam's Club. I don't proof my yeast most times > because I'm fairly sure the product's good. The term 'Bread Machine Yeast' is a generic that really means 'dry and doesn't have to be tested in warm water to bubble'. Active dry is the same. |
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 22:22:54 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>dsi1 wrote: > >> On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 9:25:08 PM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote: >> > On 24/10/2020 05:18, cshenk wrote: >> > > S Viemeister wrote: >> > >> On 21/10/2020 04:24, cshenk wrote: >> > >>> S Viemeister wrote: >> > >>>> Blocks of fresh yeast are sold refrigerated. >> > >>> This is USA and bread machine yeast. >> > >> The yeast I refer to was purchased in a supermarket in the USA. >> > > >> > > Well, dunno what you got. 'Fresh yeast' can be misleading. >> > > Noted you say 'blocks'. Thats the cake of yeast stuff? Why the >> > > heck would you use that? >> > > >> > Fresh, moist, compressed blocks of yeast, not dried stuff. >> > Different yeasts can give different results, and affect the taste >> > of the finished product. >> > I don't use an automatic bread machine, so I am not limited to >> > bread machine dried yeast. >> >> Bread machine yeast is kind of a scam. It's just repackaged active >> dry yeast. Most people use the envelopes. Yeast is yeast is yeast. If >> they bake a lot, they might get a jar of yeast. I get a 2 lb bag of >> yeast at Costco or Sam's Club. I don't proof my yeast most times >> because I'm fairly sure the product's good. > >The term 'Bread Machine Yeast' is a generic that really means 'dry and >doesn't have to be tested in warm water to bubble'. Active dry is the >same. Typical nonsense from know nothings. Different bread yeasts are as different as different wine grape yeasts. Any yeast that hasn't been proofed recently should be proofed prior to using. Yeast is a living organism that can die and/or become contaminated by different yeasts. Proper packaging and storage is important. |
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Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 22:22:54 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: > > > dsi1 wrote: > > > >> On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 9:25:08 PM UTC-10, S Viemeister > wrote: >> > On 24/10/2020 05:18, cshenk wrote: > >> > > S Viemeister wrote: > >> > >> On 21/10/2020 04:24, cshenk wrote: > >> > >>> S Viemeister wrote: > >> > >>>> Blocks of fresh yeast are sold refrigerated. > >> > >>> This is USA and bread machine yeast. > >> > >> The yeast I refer to was purchased in a supermarket in the > USA. >> > > > >> > > Well, dunno what you got. 'Fresh yeast' can be misleading. > >> > > Noted you say 'blocks'. Thats the cake of yeast stuff? Why > the >> > > heck would you use that? > >> > > > >> > Fresh, moist, compressed blocks of yeast, not dried stuff. > >> > Different yeasts can give different results, and affect the taste > >> > of the finished product. > >> > I don't use an automatic bread machine, so I am not limited to > >> > bread machine dried yeast. > >> > >> Bread machine yeast is kind of a scam. It's just repackaged active > >> dry yeast. Most people use the envelopes. Yeast is yeast is yeast. > If >> they bake a lot, they might get a jar of yeast. I get a 2 lb > bag of >> yeast at Costco or Sam's Club. I don't proof my yeast most > times >> because I'm fairly sure the product's good. > > > > The term 'Bread Machine Yeast' is a generic that really means 'dry > > and doesn't have to be tested in warm water to bubble'. Active dry > > is the same. > > Typical nonsense from know nothings. Different bread yeasts are as > different as different wine grape yeasts. Any yeast that hasn't been > proofed recently should be proofed prior to using. Yeast is a living > organism that can die and/or become contaminated by different yeasts. > Proper packaging and storage is important. You know nothing of bread machines. You know nothing about modern yeast types of storage. Go away Sheldon. |
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 20:31:06 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>Sheldon Martin wrote: > >> Typical nonsense from know nothings. Different bread yeasts are as >> different as different wine grape yeasts. Any yeast that hasn't been >> proofed recently should be proofed prior to using. Yeast is a living >> organism that can die and/or become contaminated by different yeasts. >> Proper packaging and storage is important. > >You know nothing of bread machines. You know nothing about modern yeast >types of storage. Go away Sheldon. He probably thinks the only good yeast is sold by kosher delis in New York. |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:39:39 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 20:31:06 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: > >>Sheldon Martin wrote: >> >>> Typical nonsense from know nothings. Different bread yeasts are as >>> different as different wine grape yeasts. Any yeast that hasn't been >>> proofed recently should be proofed prior to using. Yeast is a living >>> organism that can die and/or become contaminated by different yeasts. >>> Proper packaging and storage is important. >> >>You know nothing of bread machines. You know nothing about modern yeast >>types of storage. Go away Sheldon. > >He probably thinks the only good yeast is sold by kosher delis in New >York. Nope... the only yeast Sheck the Dreck knows is her contagious vaginal yeast infections... and Brushie laps it up. |
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