On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 12:56:12 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 1:41:55 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 2:06:22 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > dsi1 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I like to boil my pork clean for 20 minutes and then dump out
> > > > the nasty porky water.
> > >
> > > But aren't you also dumping out much of the pork flavor?
> > >
> > > Worked with a guy once that claimed he made the best grilled
> > > chicken in the universe so I asked him how he did it.
> > >
> > > He boiled his chicken for about 20 minutes before
> > > putting them on the grill. He didn't even save the water
> > > for broth. Needless to say, I didn't try his method.
> > You are indeed dumping out pork flavor but it's a tradition. My auntie taught me that one. She said that pork is a dirty meat. It's not necessary these days but I like to follow tradition. God knows what happens if you don't follow the rules.
> Generally speaking, nothing. Most traditions are pointless and should be abandoned.
> Their purpose is to identify members of a "tribe" and to cement the relationship of
> each person to his/her tribe.

And they extend far beyond that. Traditions are part of the framework that justifies extant
power structures. Sports teams play in stadiums where the wealthy eat jumbo shrimp in
skyboxes, while the hoi palloi chow down hot dogs in the bleachers, feeling more unity with
the wealthy fans of their own team than with folks of their own station who root for the
team that happens to represent a different city. In larger societies, sports fandom obfuscates
the class interests of the average Jane/John, who might otherwise feel more affinity with
their natural allies. That's OK in a society that is reasonably egalitarian, but it's dysfunctional
in one that has run amok with economic inequity.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 1:56:09 PM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 12:56:12 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 1:41:55 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 2:06:22 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > > dsi1 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I like to boil my pork clean for 20 minutes and then dump out
> > > > > the nasty porky water.
> > > >
> > > > But aren't you also dumping out much of the pork flavor?
> > > >
> > > > Worked with a guy once that claimed he made the best grilled
> > > > chicken in the universe so I asked him how he did it.
> > > >
> > > > He boiled his chicken for about 20 minutes before
> > > > putting them on the grill. He didn't even save the water
> > > > for broth. Needless to say, I didn't try his method.
> > > You are indeed dumping out pork flavor but it's a tradition. My auntie taught me that one. She said that pork is a dirty meat. It's not necessary these days but I like to follow tradition. God knows what happens if you don't follow the rules.
> > Generally speaking, nothing. Most traditions are pointless and should be abandoned.
> > Their purpose is to identify members of a "tribe" and to cement the relationship of
> > each person to his/her tribe.
>
> And they extend far beyond that. Traditions are part of the framework that justifies extant
> power structures. Sports teams play in stadiums where the wealthy eat jumbo shrimp in
> skyboxes, while the hoi palloi chow down hot dogs in the bleachers, feeling more unity with
> the wealthy fans of their own team than with folks of their own station who root for the
> team that happens to represent a different city. In larger societies, sports fandom obfuscates
> the class interests of the average Jane/John, who might otherwise feel more affinity with
> their natural allies. That's OK in a society that is reasonably egalitarian, but it's dysfunctional
> in one that has run amok with economic inequity.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> --Bryan

What's weird about these times is Trump's minions' cult of personality. I've never see anything before. It's as if they were mesmerized. It's like America has turned into some kind of third-world, commie country. That's awesome - but not in a good way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0

On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 17:47:54 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 1:56:09 PM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 12:56:12 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 1:41:55 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> > > On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 2:06:22 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> > > > dsi1 wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I like to boil my pork clean for 20 minutes and then dump out
>> > > > > the nasty porky water.
>> > > >
>> > > > But aren't you also dumping out much of the pork flavor?
>> > > >
>> > > > Worked with a guy once that claimed he made the best grilled
>> > > > chicken in the universe so I asked him how he did it.
>> > > >
>> > > > He boiled his chicken for about 20 minutes before
>> > > > putting them on the grill. He didn't even save the water
>> > > > for broth. Needless to say, I didn't try his method.
>> > > You are indeed dumping out pork flavor but it's a tradition. My auntie taught me that one. She said that pork is a dirty meat. It's not necessary these days but I like to follow tradition. God knows what happens if you don't follow the rules.
>> > Generally speaking, nothing. Most traditions are pointless and should be abandoned.
>> > Their purpose is to identify members of a "tribe" and to cement the relationship of
>> > each person to his/her tribe.
>>
>> And they extend far beyond that. Traditions are part of the framework that justifies extant
>> power structures. Sports teams play in stadiums where the wealthy eat jumbo shrimp in
>> skyboxes, while the hoi palloi chow down hot dogs in the bleachers, feeling more unity with
>> the wealthy fans of their own team than with folks of their own station who root for the
>> team that happens to represent a different city. In larger societies, sports fandom obfuscates
>> the class interests of the average Jane/John, who might otherwise feel more affinity with
>> their natural allies. That's OK in a society that is reasonably egalitarian, but it's dysfunctional
>> in one that has run amok with economic inequity.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> --Bryan
>
>What's weird about these times is Trump's minions' cult of personality. I've never see anything before. It's as if they were mesmerized. It's like America has turned into some kind of third-world, commie country. That's awesome - but not in a good way.

Commie? More like the Philippines. No wait, Turkey! They have a
fascist president and his people lovingly re-elect him.

On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 17:47:54 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>>
>> And they extend far beyond that. Traditions are part of the framework that justifies extant
>> power structures. Sports teams play in stadiums where the wealthy eat jumbo shrimp in
>> skyboxes, while the hoi palloi chow down hot dogs in the bleachers, feeling more unity with
>> the wealthy fans of their own team than with folks of their own station who root for the
>> team that happens to represent a different city. In larger societies, sports fandom obfuscates
>> the class interests of the average Jane/John, who might otherwise feel more affinity with
>> their natural allies. That's OK in a society that is reasonably egalitarian, but it's dysfunctional
>> in one that has run amok with economic inequity.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> --Bryan
>
>What's weird about these times is Trump's minions' cult of personality. I've never see anything before. It's as if they were mesmerized. It's like America has turned into some kind of third-world, commie country. That's awesome - but not in a good way.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0


Better still: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry-3uatYDJk

On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 4:13:57 PM UTC-10, Graham wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 17:47:54 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >>
> >> And they extend far beyond that. Traditions are part of the framework that justifies extant
> >> power structures. Sports teams play in stadiums where the wealthy eat jumbo shrimp in
> >> skyboxes, while the hoi palloi chow down hot dogs in the bleachers, feeling more unity with
> >> the wealthy fans of their own team than with folks of their own station who root for the
> >> team that happens to represent a different city. In larger societies, sports fandom obfuscates
> >> the class interests of the average Jane/John, who might otherwise feel more affinity with
> >> their natural allies. That's OK in a society that is reasonably egalitarian, but it's dysfunctional
> >> in one that has run amok with economic inequity.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >
> >What's weird about these times is Trump's minions' cult of personality. I've never see anything before. It's as if they were mesmerized. It's like America has turned into some kind of third-world, commie country. That's awesome - but not in a good way.
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0
>
>
> Better still: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry-3uatYDJk

That's way too high end satire for this crowd!

On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 19:29:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 4:13:57 PM UTC-10, Graham wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 17:47:54 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >> And they extend far beyond that. Traditions are part of the framework that justifies extant
>> >> power structures. Sports teams play in stadiums where the wealthy eat jumbo shrimp in
>> >> skyboxes, while the hoi palloi chow down hot dogs in the bleachers, feeling more unity with
>> >> the wealthy fans of their own team than with folks of their own station who root for the
>> >> team that happens to represent a different city. In larger societies, sports fandom obfuscates
>> >> the class interests of the average Jane/John, who might otherwise feel more affinity with
>> >> their natural allies. That's OK in a society that is reasonably egalitarian, but it's dysfunctional
>> >> in one that has run amok with economic inequity.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >>
>> >> --Bryan
>> >
>> >What's weird about these times is Trump's minions' cult of personality. I've never see anything before. It's as if they were mesmerized. It's like America has turned into some kind of third-world, commie country. That's awesome - but not in a good way.
>> >
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0
>>
>>
>> Better still: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry-3uatYDJk
>
>That's way too high end satire for this crowd!

I thought it was very unfunny.

On 2020 Sep 23, , dsi1 wrote
(in >):

> What's weird about these times is Trump's minions' cult of personality. I've
> never see anything before. It's as if they were mesmerized. It's like America
> has turned into some kind of third-world, commie country. That's awesome -
> but not in a good way.

Substitute €œTrumps" with €œDemocrat's" and you will have a clear view
of the real world. I can hardly wait to stand in line for a can of tomato
sauce and a pound of carrots. I'll only have to deal with buying one kind of
car, if I can afford it by being a member of the €œParty", while stylin' in
my government issued clothes.
You will find out what a minion is, and you wont like it.
For the sed savvy, s/Trumps/Democrats/g and I do mean globally.

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 4:19:51 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Sep 23, , dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
>
> > What's weird about these times is Trump's minions' cult of personality. I've
> > never see anything before. It's as if they were mesmerized. It's like America
> > has turned into some kind of third-world, commie country. That's awesome -
> > but not in a good way.
>
> Substitute €œTrumps" with €œDemocrat's" and you will have a clear view
> of the real world. I can hardly wait to stand in line for a can of tomato
> sauce and a pound of carrots. I'll only have to deal with buying one kind of
> car, if I can afford it by being a member of the €œParty", while stylin' in
> my government issued clothes.
> You will find out what a minion is, and you wont like it.
> For the sed savvy, s/Trumps/Democrats/g and I do mean globally.

The minions have sold their soul to the devil. They're guilty of looking away from the rich and powerful being able to mistreat women because they feel they can. They're guilty of looking away while the commies interfere with our elections. They are guilty of looking away while Trump and his cronies erode our institutions of the vote and rule of law.

The minions look away because they believe that the rich are fighting for their interests but the rich are not interested in regular folks. Mostly, they're interested in amassing wealth and power and influence at the expense of the middle class and poor. The reality is that you can't continue to squeeze the lower classes before something explodes. It's happened before and it'll happen again but as we all know, everybody believes that it can't happen here.

On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 16:56:04 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 12:56:12 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 1:41:55 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 2:06:22 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> > > dsi1 wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > I like to boil my pork clean for 20 minutes and then dump out
>> > > > the nasty porky water.
>> > >
>> > > But aren't you also dumping out much of the pork flavor?
>> > >
>> > > Worked with a guy once that claimed he made the best grilled
>> > > chicken in the universe so I asked him how he did it.
>> > >
>> > > He boiled his chicken for about 20 minutes before
>> > > putting them on the grill. He didn't even save the water
>> > > for broth. Needless to say, I didn't try his method.
>> > You are indeed dumping out pork flavor but it's a tradition. My auntie taught me that one. She said that pork is a dirty meat. It's not necessary these days but I like to follow tradition. God knows what happens if you don't follow the rules.
>> Generally speaking, nothing. Most traditions are pointless and should be abandoned.
>> Their purpose is to identify members of a "tribe" and to cement the relationship of
>> each person to his/her tribe.
>
>And they extend far beyond that. Traditions are part of the framework that justifies extant
>power structures.

Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people!