On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 04:51:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 7:41:03 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I understand that, but it makes it hard to compare French vs. Italian
>> >> bread.
>> >
>> >I'm only referring to the loaves of french and italian, not
>> >baguettes or any other variety.
>> >
>> >Both are very long. French loaf is more round where the
>> >italian is wider and more oval.
>> I don't know what kind of French and Italian bread you buy at a
>> supermarket in the US, but the most iconic French bread is the
>> baguette.
>> <https://images-ca-1-0-1-eu.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/photos/slide/880/pain-baguette-3000x2000.jpg>
>
>Those look great.
>
>Supermarket "French" and "Italian" loaves are little more than Wonder bread baked onsite and in a
>funny shape. They might have a little more crust on the outside, but they're usually pretty squishy on
>the inside.

Yes. It's no comparison to the real thing. Not that I can get anything
like the real thing here without driving for an hour or so.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 10:46:15 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/30/2020 7:40 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:37:07 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:54:12 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If there was a real bakery nearby, I'd use it but no way
>>>>> will I drive off to wherever the nearest one is just for
>>>>> bread. I'm not that picky.
>>>>
>>>> I understand that, but it makes it hard to compare French vs. Italian
>>>> bread.
>>>
>>> I'm only referring to the loaves of french and italian, not
>>> baguettes or any other variety.
>>>
>>> Both are very long. French loaf is more round where the
>>> italian is wider and more oval.
>>
>> I don't know what kind of French and Italian bread you buy at a
>> supermarket in the US, but the most iconic French bread is the
>> baguette.
>> <https://images-ca-1-0-1-eu.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/photos/slide/880/pain-baguette-3000x2000.jpg>
>>
>
>Difficult to find any that good. In many supermarket bakeries the main
>difference between French and Italian seems to be the label.

Yes, same here.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:46:53 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 11:27:27 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 05:26:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 8/29/2020 4:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> > Made an Italian version of Sloppy Joe's tonight, Giuseppe Sciatto.
>> >> >
>> >> > Used both sweet and hot Italian sausage meat, Bolognais sauce, a mix of
>> >> > Parmesan, Cheddar, Asiago cheese. Turned out rather well.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
>> >> > personal taste. We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Buns? French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
>> >>
>> >> YUM!
>> >
>> >I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>> >on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>> >sandwich even sloppier.
>> >
>> >Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>> >with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>> >
>> >Personal choice: I've always prefered the Italian bread over
>> >French
>>
>> Have you ever had a real baguette? Meaning not from the supermarket.
>
>Why yes, there's a lot of Japanese bakeries on this rock. They make real baguettes. The real baguettes are like waffles. They have only a few minutes of life until they turn ordinary.

Yes, they have very little shelf life because there's no fat, let
alone preservative, in them. Just flour, water, yeast and salt.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 11:50:15 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>> But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
>
>Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
>knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.

You have a strange idea about Europeans. They can just as well be
crass rednecks

On 8/30/2020 11:40 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
>>>>>>> personal taste. We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Buns? French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YUM!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>>> sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>> with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personal choice: I've always prefered the Italian bread over
>>>>> French
>>>>
>>>> Have you ever had a real baguette? Meaning not from the supermarket.
>>>
>>> Does the supermarket bakery (cooked fresh each morning from
>>> premixed dough) count? Otherwise...no.
>>>
>>> If there was a real bakery nearby, I'd use it but no way
>>> will I drive off to wherever the nearest one is just for
>>> bread. I'm not that picky.
>> It's not possible to be picky about a *sloppy* joe.
>
> Sure it is. I'm very picky about how they're flavored. Too much sugar is
> an epic fail, although the classic sloppy joe is supposed to be a little sweet.
> We like to put a generous amount of Tabasco in ours.
>
> I'm less picky about the bread. Squishy white buns are fine; they harmonize
> well with the slight sweetness of the meat sauce.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

The ones I bought were brioche buns. Firmer that the typical burger
buns, not like a crusty roll though.

On 8/30/2020 11:50 AM, Gary wrote:
> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>> On 8/30/2020 4:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:26:27 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/29/2020 4:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> Made an Italian version of Sloppy Joe's tonight, Giuseppe Sciatto.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Used both sweet and hot Italian sausage meat, Bolognais sauce, a mix of
>>>>>> Parmesan, Cheddar, Asiago cheese. Turned out rather well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
>>>>>> personal taste. We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Buns? French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
>>>>>
>>>>> YUM!
>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>> sandwich even sloppier.
>>>
>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>
>>
>> Exactly.
>>
>> But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
>
> Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
> knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
>

Fork is to eat what fall out when you pick up the sandwich. If nothing
falls out, you didn't make it right.

On 2020-08-30 11:05 a.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 9:46:19 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/30/2020 7:40 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:37:07 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:54:12 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 05:26:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>>>>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>>>>>> sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>>>>> with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Personal choice: I've always prefered the Italian bread over
>>>>>>>> French
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you ever had a real baguette? Meaning not from the supermarket.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the supermarket bakery (cooked fresh each morning from
>>>>>> premixed dough) count? Otherwise...no.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If there was a real bakery nearby, I'd use it but no way
>>>>>> will I drive off to wherever the nearest one is just for
>>>>>> bread. I'm not that picky.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that, but it makes it hard to compare French vs. Italian
>>>>> bread.
>>>>
>>>> I'm only referring to the loaves of french and italian, not
>>>> baguettes or any other variety.
>>>>
>>>> Both are very long. French loaf is more round where the
>>>> italian is wider and more oval.
>>>
>>> I don't know what kind of French and Italian bread you buy at a
>>> supermarket in the US, but the most iconic French bread is the
>>> baguette.
>>> <https://images-ca-1-0-1-eu.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/photos/slide/880/pain-baguette-3000x2000.jpg>
>>>
>> Difficult to find any that good. In many supermarket bakeries the main
>> difference between French and Italian seems to be the label.
>
> If it's baked by the grocery company, it won't be either French or Italian.
>
> https://www.marconibakery.com/breads
> Baked a couple of blocks from where Yogi Berra and Joe Garagiola grew up.
>
> --Bryan
>
It's not a lot different in France. Many of the boulangeries buy in
frozen, pre-formed baguettes and bake them as needed. For "real" bread,
you have to find a boulangerie artisinale.

On 2020-08-30 11:35 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/30/2020 11:40 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
>>>>>>>> personal taste. We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Buns? French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> YUM!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>>>> sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>>> with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personal choice: I've always prefered the Italian bread over
>>>>>> French
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you ever had a real baguette? Meaning not from the supermarket.
>>>>
>>>> Does the supermarket bakery (cooked fresh each morning from
>>>> premixed dough) count? Otherwise...no.
>>>>
>>>> If there was a real bakery nearby, I'd use it but no way
>>>> will I drive off to wherever the nearest one is just for
>>>> bread. I'm not that picky.
>>> It's not possible to be picky about a *sloppy* joe.
>>
>> Sure it is.Â* I'm very picky about how they're flavored.Â* Too much
>> sugar is
>> an epic fail, although the classic sloppy joe is supposed to be a
>> little sweet.
>> We like to put a generous amount of Tabasco in ours.
>>
>> I'm less picky about the bread.Â* Squishy white buns are fine; they
>> harmonize
>> well with the slight sweetness of the meat sauce.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
> The ones I bought were brioche buns.Â* Firmer that the typical burger
> buns, not like a crusty roll though.

Richer too!

On 2020-08-30 9:50 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>> On 8/30/2020 4:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:26:27 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/29/2020 4:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> Made an Italian version of Sloppy Joe's tonight, Giuseppe Sciatto.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Used both sweet and hot Italian sausage meat, Bolognais sauce, a mix of
>>>>>> Parmesan, Cheddar, Asiago cheese. Turned out rather well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
>>>>>> personal taste. We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Buns? French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
>>>>>
>>>>> YUM!
>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>> sandwich even sloppier.
>>>
>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>
>>
>> Exactly.
>>
>> But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
>
> Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
> knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
>
There's no other way given the size of some hamburgers.

On 2020-08-30 11:20 a.m., Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 11:50:15 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>
>>> But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
>>
>> Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
>> knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
>
> You have a strange idea about Europeans. They can just as well be
> crass rednecks
>
In Berlin and London yesterday, they even had Q-Anon idiots along with
anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers in big demonstrations.
Actually, idiots all!!!

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 10:50:26 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >
> > But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
>
> Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
> knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
>
I eat sloppy joes with a knife and fork, always have. The bun is split
open, the meat mixture is liberally dished on both halves and then I dig
in with that knife and fork. If I were skimpy with the serving and actually
served it as a sandwich, then no, I'd forgo the utensils.

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:51:24 AM UTC-5, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
> On 8/30/2020 8:50 AM, Gary wrote:
>
> > Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >>
> >> But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
> >
> > Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
> > knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
> >
>
> I thought they were open faced and messy.
>
Mine are!

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:54:12 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 05:26:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 8/29/2020 4:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> > Made an Italian version of Sloppy Joe's tonight, Giuseppe Sciatto.
>> >> >
>> >> > Used both sweet and hot Italian sausage meat, Bolognais sauce, a mix of
>> >> > Parmesan, Cheddar, Asiago cheese. Turned out rather well.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
>> >> > personal taste. We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Buns? French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
>> >>
>> >> YUM!
>> >
>> >I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>> >on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>> >sandwich even sloppier.
>> >
>> >Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>> >with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>> >
>> >Personal choice: I've always prefered the Italian bread over
>> >French
>>
>> Have you ever had a real baguette? Meaning not from the supermarket.
>
>Does the supermarket bakery (cooked fresh each morning from
>premixed dough) count? Otherwise...no.
>
>If there was a real bakery nearby, I'd use it but no way
>will I drive off to wherever the nearest one is just for
>bread. I'm not that picky.

Albertsons used to do a fairly passable crusty roll (long or round)
Then they started bagging them up in plastic because of the virus
(keep everything sanitary) Well, you put crusty bread in a plastic
bag and the crusty surface goes away.
Janet US

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:55:11 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
wrote:

snip
... one of my favorite Italian breads is pork
>bread... contains chunks of chicharone, a bread that's eaten still hot
>from the oven by tearing off chunks, not used for sandwiches...
>sometimes the shape of a baguette, sometimes the shape of a large
>ring.
>Most supermarket bakeries are not bakeries, they use frozen dough
>already shaped by machine.

Fried pork rinds in a loaf of bread. I've never heard of anything
like that.
Janet US

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 11:49:26 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2020-08-30 11:20 a.m., Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 11:50:15 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
>>>
>>> Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
>>> knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
>>
>> You have a strange idea about Europeans. They can just as well be
>> crass rednecks
>>
>In Berlin and London yesterday, they even had Q-Anon idiots along with
>anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers in big demonstrations.
>Actually, idiots all!!!

They arrested 200 people in Berlin. And that's only the tip of the
moronic iceberg, no doubt.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>>
>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>
>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>
>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>
>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>
>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>Many people eat pasta with sauce and have some garlic
>bread along with it.
>
>For me...
>- pasta with red sauce
>- tossed salad on the same plate
>- couple pieces of garlic bread made from italian
> (buttered, garlic and parmesian cheese) broiled to brown

If they are sloppy I eat them with a knife and fork. It depends on
sloppiness.
Janet US

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> Gary wrote:
>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>>>
>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>
>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>
>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>
>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>
>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>
>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.

Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
Janet US

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 12:38:18 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/30/2020 11:50 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >>
> >> On 8/30/2020 4:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:26:27 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8/29/2020 4:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>>> Made an Italian version of Sloppy Joe's tonight, Giuseppe Sciatto.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Used both sweet and hot Italian sausage meat, Bolognais sauce, a mix of
> >>>>>> Parmesan, Cheddar, Asiago cheese. Turned out rather well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
> >>>>>> personal taste. We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Buns? French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> YUM!
> >>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
> >>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
> >>>> sandwich even sloppier.
> >>>
> >>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Exactly.
> >>
> >> But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
> >
> > Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
> > knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
> >
> Fork is to eat what fall out when you pick up the sandwich. If nothing
> falls out, you didn't make it right.

They're sloppy joes, not dainty joes. Just use your fingers.

--Bryan

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>
>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>
>>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>>
>>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>
>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>>
>>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>
>>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>
>Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.

Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
herself.

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 12:56:33 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:55:11 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
> wrote:
>
> snip
> .. one of my favorite Italian breads is pork
> >bread... contains chunks of chicharone, a bread that's eaten still hot
> >from the oven by tearing off chunks, not used for sandwiches...
> >sometimes the shape of a baguette, sometimes the shape of a large
> >ring.
> >Most supermarket bakeries are not bakeries, they use frozen dough
> >already shaped by machine.
>
> Fried pork rinds in a loaf of bread. I've never heard of anything
> like that.

Maybe that's where they got the idea for Chicken in a Biskit.

> Janet US

--Bryan

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Gary wrote:
> >>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
> >>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
> >>> > sandwich even sloppier.
> >>>
> >>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
> >>
> >>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
> >>
> >>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
> >>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
> >>>
> >>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
> >>
> >>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
> >
> >You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>
> Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
> Janet US

But correct. I am obese. I might be back up to "morbidly obese", since I've gained back
most of the weight I lost a few years back.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:18:28 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >
>> >>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Gary wrote:
>> >>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>> >>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>> >>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>> >>>
>> >>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>> >>
>> >>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>> >>
>> >>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>> >>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>> >>>
>> >>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>> >>
>> >>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>> >
>> >You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>
>> Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>> Janet US
>
>But correct. I am obese. I might be back up to "morbidly obese", since I've gained back
>most of the weight I lost a few years back.

Still, maybe I shouldn't have said it, even though there was no "ugly
intent".

Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 12:38:18 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/30/2020 11:50 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 8/30/2020 4:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:26:27 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/29/2020 4:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>> Made an Italian version of Sloppy Joe's tonight, Giuseppe Sciatto.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Used both sweet and hot Italian sausage meat, Bolognais sauce, a mix of
>>>>>>>> Parmesan, Cheddar, Asiago cheese. Turned out rather well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
>>>>>>>> personal taste. We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Buns? French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> YUM!
>>>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>>>> sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>>
>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Exactly.
>>>>
>>>> But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
>>>
>>> Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
>>> knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
>>>
>> Fork is to eat what fall out when you pick up the sandwich. If nothing
>> falls out, you didn't make it right.
>
> They're sloppy joes, not dainty joes. Just use your fingers.
>
> --Bryan
>

And don't forget to lick the plate.

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 2:30:43 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 12:38:18 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 8/30/2020 11:50 AM, Gary wrote:
> >>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/30/2020 4:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:26:27 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >>>>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 8/29/2020 4:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Made an Italian version of Sloppy Joe's tonight, Giuseppe Sciatto.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Used both sweet and hot Italian sausage meat, Bolognais sauce, a mix of
> >>>>>>>> Parmesan, Cheddar, Asiago cheese. Turned out rather well.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
> >>>>>>>> personal taste. We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Buns? French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> YUM!
> >>>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
> >>>>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
> >>>>>> sandwich even sloppier.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Exactly.
> >>>>
> >>>> But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
> >>>
> >>> Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
> >>> knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
> >>>
> >> Fork is to eat what fall out when you pick up the sandwich. If nothing
> >> falls out, you didn't make it right.
> >
> > They're sloppy joes, not dainty joes. Just use your fingers.
> >
> > --Bryan
> >
> And don't forget to lick the plate.

Are you spying on me?

--Bryan

U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>>> sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>
>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>
>>> Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>>
>>>>> Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>> with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>
>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>>
>>> That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>
>> You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>
> Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
> Janet US
>

Now you did it! He'll be whining about vultures soon.

Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>>>> sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>>
>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>>>
>>>>>> Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>>> with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>>>
>>>> That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>>
>>> You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>
>> Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>
> Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
> the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
> herself.
>

Congrats on this double sniff Druce!

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 21:55:16 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> On 8/29/2020 8:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/29/2020 7:57 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>> On 8/29/2020 4:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> Made an Italian version of Sloppy Joe's tonight, Giuseppe Sciatto.
>>>>
>>>> Used both sweet and hot Italian sausage meat, Bolognais sauce, a mix of
>>>> Parmesan, Cheddar, Asiago cheese. Turned out rather well.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
>>>> personal taste.* We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Buns?* French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
>>>
>>> YUM!
>>
>> Yes, but could not get a decent bread today so you work with what is
>> available.
>
> Besides that, Sloppy Joes, regardless of the ingredients or the moniker,
> really do require "buns".

Exactly - cheap buns. Or even white bread. Anything else is TIAD
and just isn't right. It needs to be soft and squishy.

Matter of fact - I think that's dinner tonight! Shit, no pickles.

-sw

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 04:14:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>>
>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>>
>>>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>>>
>>>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>>>
>>>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>>
>>>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>
>>Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>
>Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
>the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
>herself.

No, I didn't. There's no reason for comments about race, physical
disabilities, image issues and actually, someone's religion. Comments
like that show a lack of empathy for fellow humans with a knowledge of
what kind of comments really can hurt someone. If that makes me
sanctimonious instead of caring, that's your problem.
Janet US

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:18:28 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >
>> >>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Gary wrote:
>> >>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>> >>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>> >>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>> >>>
>> >>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>> >>
>> >>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>> >>
>> >>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>> >>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>> >>>
>> >>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>> >>
>> >>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>> >
>> >You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>
>> Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>> Janet US
>
>But correct. I am obese. I might be back up to "morbidly obese", since I've gained back
>most of the weight I lost a few years back.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I don't care . That comment was meant to hurt.

Janet US

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:36 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 04:14:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>>>>
>>>>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>>>
>>>>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>>
>>>Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>>
>>Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
>>the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
>>herself.
>
>No, I didn't. There's no reason for comments about race, physical
>disabilities, image issues and actually, someone's religion. Comments
>like that show a lack of empathy for fellow humans with a knowledge of
>what kind of comments really can hurt someone. If that makes me
>sanctimonious instead of caring, that's your problem.

Cindy's quite down to earth about it, but if she has a problem with
what I say, she can tell me.

There's much nastier stuff going on here that I never ever hear you
about. You actually suck up to one of the nastiest people in RFC.
Hypocrite.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:14:05 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:18:28 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Gary wrote:
>>> >>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>> >>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>> >>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>> >>
>>> >>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>> >>
>>> >>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>> >>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>> >>
>>> >>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>> >
>>> >You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>>
>>> Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>But correct. I am obese. I might be back up to "morbidly obese", since I've gained back
>>most of the weight I lost a few years back.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
>I don't care . That comment was meant to hurt.

No, it wasn't. Go back to church with your fellow hypocrites.

Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:36 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 04:14:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>>>>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>>>>>> sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>>>>> with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>>>
>>>> Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>>>
>>> Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
>>> the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
>>> herself.
>>
>> No, I didn't. There's no reason for comments about race, physical
>> disabilities, image issues and actually, someone's religion. Comments
>> like that show a lack of empathy for fellow humans with a knowledge of
>> what kind of comments really can hurt someone. If that makes me
>> sanctimonious instead of caring, that's your problem.
>
> Cindy's quite down to earth about it, but if she has a problem with
> what I say, she can tell me.
>
> There's much nastier stuff going on here that I never ever hear you
> about. You actually suck up to one of the nastiest people in RFC.
> Hypocrite.
>

Yoose like a dog with a bone Gruce.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:21:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:36 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 04:14:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>>>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>>>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>>>>
>>>>>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>>>
>>>>Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>>>
>>>Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
>>>the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
>>>herself.
>>
>>No, I didn't. There's no reason for comments about race, physical
>>disabilities, image issues and actually, someone's religion. Comments
>>like that show a lack of empathy for fellow humans with a knowledge of
>>what kind of comments really can hurt someone. If that makes me
>>sanctimonious instead of caring, that's your problem.
>
>Cindy's quite down to earth about it, but if she has a problem with
>what I say, she can tell me.
>
>There's much nastier stuff going on here that I never ever hear you
>about. You actually suck up to one of the nastiest people in RFC.
>Hypocrite.

I need a name, who do I suck up to? In my mind I am just responding
or participating in a thread, so you'll have to tell me.
OTOH, I do sometimes talk with you, is that who you mean?
Janet US

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:37:55 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:21:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:36 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 04:14:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>>>>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>>>>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>>>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>>>>
>>>>>Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>>>>
>>>>Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
>>>>the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
>>>>herself.
>>>
>>>No, I didn't. There's no reason for comments about race, physical
>>>disabilities, image issues and actually, someone's religion. Comments
>>>like that show a lack of empathy for fellow humans with a knowledge of
>>>what kind of comments really can hurt someone. If that makes me
>>>sanctimonious instead of caring, that's your problem.
>>
>>Cindy's quite down to earth about it, but if she has a problem with
>>what I say, she can tell me.
>>
>>There's much nastier stuff going on here that I never ever hear you
>>about. You actually suck up to one of the nastiest people in RFC.
>>Hypocrite.
>
>I need a name, who do I suck up to? In my mind I am just responding
>or participating in a thread, so you'll have to tell me.
>OTOH, I do sometimes talk with you, is that who you mean?
>Janet US

If you have to ask...

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 6:39:20 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:37:55 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:21:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:36 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 04:14:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> >>>>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Gary wrote:
> >>>>>>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
> >>>>>>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
> >>>>>>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
> >>>>>>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
> >>>>
> >>>>Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
> >>>>the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
> >>>>herself.
> >>>
> >>>No, I didn't. There's no reason for comments about race, physical
> >>>disabilities, image issues and actually, someone's religion. Comments
> >>>like that show a lack of empathy for fellow humans with a knowledge of
> >>>what kind of comments really can hurt someone. If that makes me
> >>>sanctimonious instead of caring, that's your problem.
> >>
> >>Cindy's quite down to earth about it, but if she has a problem with
> >>what I say, she can tell me.
> >>
> >>There's much nastier stuff going on here that I never ever hear you
> >>about. You actually suck up to one of the nastiest people in RFC.
> >>Hypocrite.
> >
> >I need a name, who do I suck up to? In my mind I am just responding
> >or participating in a thread, so you'll have to tell me.
> >OTOH, I do sometimes talk with you, is that who you mean?
> >Janet US
> If you have to ask...

I'm asking, Bruce. I don't suck up to anyone. I sometimes agree with a person whom I usually disagree with if that person has a good point. That even applies to Kuthe, who is the only person here whom I hate. I don't think that anyone here sucks up to anyone. There are no outright coalitions or cliques, just a lot of shifting hostilities, and continuing interpersonal hostilities. Oh, and cutesy nicknames.

--Bryan

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:13:35 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 6:39:20 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:37:55 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:21:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

>> >>Cindy's quite down to earth about it, but if she has a problem with
>> >>what I say, she can tell me.
>> >>
>> >>There's much nastier stuff going on here that I never ever hear you
>> >>about. You actually suck up to one of the nastiest people in RFC.
>> >>Hypocrite.
>> >
>> >I need a name, who do I suck up to? In my mind I am just responding
>> >or participating in a thread, so you'll have to tell me.
>> >OTOH, I do sometimes talk with you, is that who you mean?
>> >Janet US
>> If you have to ask...
>
>I'm asking, Bruce. I don't suck up to anyone. I sometimes agree with a person whom I usually disagree with if that person has a good point. That even applies to Kuthe, who is the only person here whom I hate. I don't think that anyone here sucks up to anyone. There are no outright coalitions or cliques, just a lot of shifting hostilities, and continuing interpersonal hostilities. Oh, and cutesy nicknames.

No you don't suck up. And I don't hate anybody here. Not beyond the
level of newsgroup irritation. But I do hate group bullying and people
who take themselves too seriously.

Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:13:35 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 6:39:20 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:37:55 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:21:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>>>> Cindy's quite down to earth about it, but if she has a problem with
>>>>> what I say, she can tell me.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's much nastier stuff going on here that I never ever hear you
>>>>> about. You actually suck up to one of the nastiest people in RFC.
>>>>> Hypocrite.
>>>>
>>>> I need a name, who do I suck up to? In my mind I am just responding
>>>> or participating in a thread, so you'll have to tell me.
>>>> OTOH, I do sometimes talk with you, is that who you mean?
>>>> Janet US
>>> If you have to ask...
>>
>> I'm asking, Bruce. I don't suck up to anyone. I sometimes agree with a person whom I usually disagree with if that person has a good point. That even applies to Kuthe, who is the only person here whom I hate. I don't think that anyone here sucks up to anyone. There are no outright coalitions or cliques, just a lot of shifting hostilities, and continuing interpersonal hostilities. Oh, and cutesy nicknames.
>
> No you don't suck up. And I don't hate anybody here. Not beyond the
> level of newsgroup irritation. But I do hate group bullying and people
> who take themselves too seriously.
>

And those evil american *******s!

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:39:16 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:37:55 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:21:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:36 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 04:14:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>>>>>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>>>>>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>>>>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>>>>>
>>>>>Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
>>>>>the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
>>>>>herself.
>>>>
>>>>No, I didn't. There's no reason for comments about race, physical
>>>>disabilities, image issues and actually, someone's religion. Comments
>>>>like that show a lack of empathy for fellow humans with a knowledge of
>>>>what kind of comments really can hurt someone. If that makes me
>>>>sanctimonious instead of caring, that's your problem.
>>>
>>>Cindy's quite down to earth about it, but if she has a problem with
>>>what I say, she can tell me.
>>>
>>>There's much nastier stuff going on here that I never ever hear you
>>>about. You actually suck up to one of the nastiest people in RFC.
>>>Hypocrite.
>>
>>I need a name, who do I suck up to? In my mind I am just responding
>>or participating in a thread, so you'll have to tell me.
>>OTOH, I do sometimes talk with you, is that who you mean?
>>Janet US
>
>If you have to ask...

I apologize, it just occurred to me that you really didn't understand
that people (particularly women) will say something about themselves
that they don't want to hear coming out of someone else's mouth.
Often they will say something about themselves to take the sting out
of what someone could say about them.
It's like that old joke 'Dear, does this dress make me look fat?'

Janet US

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 18:53:14 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:39:16 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:37:55 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I need a name, who do I suck up to? In my mind I am just responding
>>>or participating in a thread, so you'll have to tell me.
>>>OTOH, I do sometimes talk with you, is that who you mean?
>>>Janet US
>>
>>If you have to ask...
>
>I apologize, it just occurred to me that you really didn't understand
>that people (particularly women) will say something about themselves
>that they don't want to hear coming out of someone else's mouth.

Well I shouldn't have said it, even if it didn't hurt or offend.

>Often they will say something about themselves to take the sting out
>of what someone could say about them.
>It's like that old joke 'Dear, does this dress make me look fat?'

Yes, not necessarily the moment for an honest answer.

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 7:53:23 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> >If you have to ask...
> I apologize, it just occurred to me that you really didn't understand
> that people (particularly women) will say something about themselves
> that they don't want to hear coming out of someone else's mouth.
> Often they will say something about themselves to take the sting out
> of what someone could say about them.
> It's like that old joke 'Dear, does this dress make me look fat?'

The best answer is, "I think it's more likely that those third helpings of mashed potatoes are what makes you look fat."
>
> Janet US

--Bryan