jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 8/9/2020 11:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >> My criteria was simple. About the same size as I'd become used to.
> >> No ice cube trays. Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
> >> digital displays. As few electronics as possible. Please don't
> >> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Sounds like a good choice. I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
> > and water dispenser.
>
> I've gotten used to it. I really didn't want to go back to
> constantly refilling ice-cube trays.

No time for that?

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 8:21:18 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > On 8/9/2020 11:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > >>>
> > >> My criteria was simple. About the same size as I'd become used to.
> > >> No ice cube trays. Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
> > >> digital displays. As few electronics as possible. Please don't
> > >> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
> > >>
> > >> Jill
> > >
> > > Sounds like a good choice. I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
> > > and water dispenser.
> >
> > I've gotten used to it. I really didn't want to go back to
> > constantly refilling ice-cube trays.
>
> No time for that?

It's not the time. It's remembering, filling, spilling, cracking, being
unable to get the cubes out of the damned trays. The entire experience
is outmoded.

That reminds me; I should check the filter on our icemaker line to see
if it needs to be replaced. My husband has probably already taken care
of that.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 8:21:18 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > On 8/9/2020 11:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>>
> > > >> My criteria was simple. About the same size as I'd become used to.
> > > >> No ice cube trays. Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
> > > >> digital displays. As few electronics as possible. Please don't
> > > >> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
> > > >>
> > > >> Jill
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like a good choice. I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
> > > > and water dispenser.
> > >
> > > I've gotten used to it. I really didn't want to go back to
> > > constantly refilling ice-cube trays.
> >
> > No time for that?
>
> It's not the time. It's remembering, filling, spilling, cracking, being
> unable to get the cubes out of the damned trays. The entire experience
> is outmoded.

Oh too funny, Cindy. Sounds like an infomertial where someone is
using
a knife to cut vegetables and it slips and shows vegetables going
all
over the kitchen. They portray that as clutsy old way.

Introducing the all new super chopper and all things cut so neat.
All
for only $19.95 and get a second one free (for an extra charge)

Seriously, filling an icecube tray or two is a problem for you?

On 8/10/2020 9:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> That reminds me; I should check the filter on our icemaker line to see
> if it needs to be replaced. My husband has probably already taken care
> of that.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Mine has a light that goes on. I get 6 months from one. The filters
are not cheap so I tried a generic brand one and it only lasted half the
time and I started getting an off taste Back to the Samsung from now on.

On 8/10/2020 9:27 AM, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 8:21:18 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 8/9/2020 11:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> My criteria was simple.Àš About the same size as I'd become used to.
>>>>>> No ice cube trays.Àš Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>>>>>> digital displays.Àš As few electronics as possible.Àš Please don't
>>>>>> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like a good choice.Àš I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>>>>> and water dispenser.
>>>>
>>>> I've gotten used to it. I really didn't want to go back to
>>>> constantly refilling ice-cube trays.
>>>
>>> No time for that?
>>
>> It's not the time. It's remembering, filling, spilling, cracking, being
>> unable to get the cubes out of the damned trays. The entire experience
>> is outmoded.
>
> Oh too funny, Cindy. Sounds like an infomertial where someone is
> using
> a knife to cut vegetables and it slips and shows vegetables going
> all
> over the kitchen. They portray that as clutsy old way.
>
> Introducing the all new super chopper and all things cut so neat.
> All
> for only $19.95 and get a second one free (for an extra charge)
>
> Seriously, filling an icecube tray or two is a problem for you?
>

It is one of the little annoyances that can be eliminated so some of us
do. I've not shoveled coal for heat either since they invented the
automatic stoker.

I'm willing to pay for some conveniences.

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:37:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 11:22:47 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>> On 2020-08-09 9:10 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> >>>
>> >> My criteria was simple.* About the same size as I'd become used to.
>> >> No ice cube trays.* Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>> >> digital displays.* As few electronics as possible.* Please don't
>> >> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >
>> > Sounds like a good choice.* I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>> > and water dispenser.
>>
>> It seems to be a N. American obsession to have ice in everything. I had
>> a chilled rosé with dinner this evening and I like chilled lager but the
>> ice-cube trays in the freezer are empty.
>
>My husband uses so much ice, our icemaker can't keep up. His
>idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice,
>then add tap water. He drinks perhaps half a dozen of those
>every day.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I would too. Don't have an ice maker but my drinking water must be
cold, preferred with ice. Tepid water does not make my mouth happy.
I specifically bought a water bottle(s) that will accept larger ice
cubes. There must be more people like me because I see now that most
water bottles come with the wider mouth.
Janet US

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 8/10/2020 9:27 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 8:21:18 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >>> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/9/2020 11:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>> On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> My criteria was simple.Àš About the same size as I'd become used to.
> >>>>>> No ice cube trays.Àš Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
> >>>>>> digital displays.Àš As few electronics as possible.Àš Please don't
> >>>>>> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jill
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sounds like a good choice.Àš I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
> >>>>> and water dispenser.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've gotten used to it. I really didn't want to go back to
> >>>> constantly refilling ice-cube trays.
> >>>
> >>> No time for that?
> >>
> >> It's not the time. It's remembering, filling, spilling, cracking, being
> >> unable to get the cubes out of the damned trays. The entire experience
> >> is outmoded.
> >
> > Oh too funny, Cindy. Sounds like an infomertial where someone is
> > using
> > a knife to cut vegetables and it slips and shows vegetables going
> > all
> > over the kitchen. They portray that as clutsy old way.
> >
> > Introducing the all new super chopper and all things cut so neat.
> > All
> > for only $19.95 and get a second one free (for an extra charge)
> >
> > Seriously, filling an icecube tray or two is a problem for you?
> >
>
> It is one of the little annoyances that can be eliminated so some of us
> do. I've not shoveled coal for heat either since they invented the
> automatic stoker.
>
> I'm willing to pay for some conveniences.

Didn't you even have a heated steering wheel for your car?

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 9:27:33 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 8:21:18 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 8/9/2020 11:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > > On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> My criteria was simple. About the same size as I'd become used to.
> > > > >> No ice cube trays. Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
> > > > >> digital displays. As few electronics as possible. Please don't
> > > > >> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Jill
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a good choice. I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
> > > > > and water dispenser.
> > > >
> > > > I've gotten used to it. I really didn't want to go back to
> > > > constantly refilling ice-cube trays.
> > >
> > > No time for that?
> >
> > It's not the time. It's remembering, filling, spilling, cracking, being
> > unable to get the cubes out of the damned trays. The entire experience
> > is outmoded.
>
> Oh too funny, Cindy. Sounds like an infomertial where someone is
> using
> a knife to cut vegetables and it slips and shows vegetables going
> all
> over the kitchen. They portray that as clutsy old way.
>
> Introducing the all new super chopper and all things cut so neat.
> All
> for only $19.95 and get a second one free (for an extra charge)
>
> Seriously, filling an icecube tray or two is a problem for you?

Not anymore.

And, yes, I was always kind of klutzy about filling ice cube trays.
Water on the floor, water spilled in the frezer.

Not being a luddite like you, I welcomed the icemaker.

Look, you don't use ice. We use as much ice as our icemaker can make,
plus two 7-pound bags that I buy every week. Our freezer would be
half full of ice trays. No, thank you.


Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 11:09:16 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/10/2020 9:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >
> > That reminds me; I should check the filter on our icemaker line to see
> > if it needs to be replaced. My husband has probably already taken care
> > of that.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
> Mine has a light that goes on. I get 6 months from one. The filters
> are not cheap so I tried a generic brand one and it only lasted half the
> time and I started getting an off taste Back to the Samsung from now on.

Nice. We just write the installation date on the filter when we install
it.

Cindy Hamilton

On 8/10/2020 11:18 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 8/10/2020 9:27 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 8:21:18 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/9/2020 11:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My criteria was simple.Àš About the same size as I'd become used to.
>>>>>>>> No ice cube trays.Àš Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>>>>>>>> digital displays.Àš As few electronics as possible.Àš Please don't
>>>>>>>> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds like a good choice.Àš I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>>>>>>> and water dispenser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've gotten used to it. I really didn't want to go back to
>>>>>> constantly refilling ice-cube trays.
>>>>>
>>>>> No time for that?
>>>>
>>>> It's not the time. It's remembering, filling, spilling, cracking, being
>>>> unable to get the cubes out of the damned trays. The entire experience
>>>> is outmoded.
>>>
>>> Oh too funny, Cindy. Sounds like an infomertial where someone is
>>> using
>>> a knife to cut vegetables and it slips and shows vegetables going
>>> all
>>> over the kitchen. They portray that as clutsy old way.
>>>
>>> Introducing the all new super chopper and all things cut so neat.
>>> All
>>> for only $19.95 and get a second one free (for an extra charge)
>>>
>>> Seriously, filling an icecube tray or two is a problem for you?
>>>
>>
>> It is one of the little annoyances that can be eliminated so some of us
>> do. I've not shoveled coal for heat either since they invented the
>> automatic stoker.
>>
>> I'm willing to pay for some conveniences.
>
> Didn't you even have a heated steering wheel for your car?
>

Yes, and a towel warmer in the bathroom.

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 11:49:56 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 11:09:16 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > Mine has a light that goes on. I get 6 months from one. The filters
> > are not cheap so I tried a generic brand one and it only lasted half the
> > time and I started getting an off taste Back to the Samsung from now on.
>
> Nice. We just write the installation date on the filter when we install
> it.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
This doesn't have a darn thing to do with water filters. But if I don't
write it on the kitchen calendar when I get a new one to change a/c
filters every three months, they'd never get changed. Pens and markers
still have a use in this day and age.

)

Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:37:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 11:22:47 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>>> On 2020-08-09 9:10 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> My criteria was simple.Â* About the same size as I'd become used to.
>>>>> No ice cube trays.Â* Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>>>>> digital displays.Â* As few electronics as possible.Â* Please don't
>>>>> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a good choice.Â* I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>>>> and water dispenser.
>>>
>>> It seems to be a N. American obsession to have ice in everything. I had
>>> a chilled rosé with dinner this evening and I like chilled lager but the
>>> ice-cube trays in the freezer are empty.
>>
>> My husband uses so much ice, our icemaker can't keep up. His
>> idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice,
>>
>> then add tap water. He drinks perhaps half a dozen of those
>> every day.
>
> Is that 3.2 kilos/litres? Does he think he's a mermaid? Does he have a
> tail?
>

I know what's on yoose mind Druce.

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 11:18:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 8/10/2020 9:27 AM, Gary wrote:

>> > Oh too funny, Cindy. Sounds like an infomertial where someone is
>> > using
>> > a knife to cut vegetables and it slips and shows vegetables going
>> > all
>> > over the kitchen. They portray that as clutsy old way.
>> >
>> > Introducing the all new super chopper and all things cut so neat.
>> > All
>> > for only $19.95 and get a second one free (for an extra charge)
>> >
>> > Seriously, filling an icecube tray or two is a problem for you?
>> >
>>
>> It is one of the little annoyances that can be eliminated so some of us
>> do. I've not shoveled coal for heat either since they invented the
>> automatic stoker.
>>
>> I'm willing to pay for some conveniences.
>
>Didn't you even have a heated steering wheel for your car?

Old people...

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:37:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 11:22:47 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>> On 2020-08-09 9:10 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> >>>
>> >> My criteria was simple.* About the same size as I'd become used to.
>> >> No ice cube trays.* Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>> >> digital displays.* As few electronics as possible.* Please don't
>> >> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >
>> > Sounds like a good choice.* I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>> > and water dispenser.
>>
>> It seems to be a N. American obsession to have ice in everything. I had
>> a chilled rosé with dinner this evening and I like chilled lager but the
>> ice-cube trays in the freezer are empty.
>
>My husband uses so much ice, our icemaker can't keep up. His
>idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice,
>then add tap water. He drinks perhaps half a dozen of those
>every day.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

If he had any intellect he'd keep a couple gallon jugs of water in the
fridge... would give him a big headstart on how much ice he'd go
throug... and he'd not need to use so large a glass.... probably sits
out melting for hours.

Our fridge has no ice maker, wouldn't want one... those things
literally make stinking ice, picks up all the odors from the food in
the fridge... and no one but no one cleans their ice maker every day,
most never clean them ever ... WTF is the point of top shelf booze or
any beverage with ice cubes that stink from last night's fried fish.
Anyone who claims to use as much ice as your hubby needs to invest in
a countertop icemaker. And besides fridge ice makers take up about a
third the freezer space, and they're something that's prone to break
down... they also place a big drain on the fridge, cuts the life of
the compressor by half. Makes a lot more cents to have a stand alone
icemaker and it still requires regular cleaning.

With only the two of us four ice cube trays is more than adequate,
they get rotated with each fill and are washed regularly. When we
have company a large bag of Klear Kubes from the convenience store is
very inexpensive. I store my Crystal Palace and Diet Sprite in the
fridge, keeps plenty cold so needs little ice... my 20 ounce glass
lives in the freezer. My wife keeps her two quart water bottles
filled in the freezer, she takes two when she golfs, they're still icy
after 18 holes... at 72 she still walks the course, no cart, and no
golf cart ass. She says golfers who ride get zero exercize... she
says that's why Tiger Woods is in lousy physical shape, he always
rides and never carries his clubs.

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 21:03:53 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 6:39:23 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:37:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 11:22:47 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>>> >> On 2020-08-09 9:10 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> >> > On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >> My criteria was simple.* About the same size as I'd become used to.
>>> >> >> No ice cube trays.* Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>>> >> >> digital displays.* As few electronics as possible.* Please don't
>>> >> >> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Jill
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sounds like a good choice.* I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>>> >> > and water dispenser.
>>> >>
>>> >> It seems to be a N. American obsession to have ice in everything. I had
>>> >> a chilled rosé with dinner this evening and I like chilled lager but the
>>> >> ice-cube trays in the freezer are empty.
>>> >
>>> >My husband uses so much ice, our icemaker can't keep up. His
>>> >idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice,
>>> >
>>> >then add tap water. He drinks perhaps half a dozen of those
>>> >every day.
>>>
>>> Is that 3.2 kilos/litres? Does he think he's a mermaid? Does he have a
>>> tail?
>>
>>32 ounces is almost a litre.
>
>Oh, I do that too.

I hope yoose go to a Urologist often to have yoose prostate checked.

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 2:02:59 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 11:49:56 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 11:09:16 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >
> > > Mine has a light that goes on. I get 6 months from one. The filters
> > > are not cheap so I tried a generic brand one and it only lasted half the
> > > time and I started getting an off taste Back to the Samsung from now on.
> >
> > Nice. We just write the installation date on the filter when we install
> > it.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> This doesn't have a darn thing to do with water filters. But if I don't
> write it on the kitchen calendar when I get a new one to change a/c
> filters every three months, they'd never get changed. Pens and markers
> still have a use in this day and age.
>
> )

Heh. We have a sheet of paper affixed to the furnace plenum by a magnet
and a pencil hung nearby with a piece of string. At least we know how
late we were.

Cindy Hamilton

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 21:03:53 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 6:39:23 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:37:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 11:22:47 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>>>>>> On 2020-08-09 9:10 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My criteria was simple.* About the same size as I'd become used to.
>>>>>>>> No ice cube trays.* Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>>>>>>>> digital displays.* As few electronics as possible.* Please don't
>>>>>>>> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds like a good choice.* I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>>>>>>> and water dispenser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems to be a N. American obsession to have ice in everything. I had
>>>>>> a chilled rosé with dinner this evening and I like chilled lager but the
>>>>>> ice-cube trays in the freezer are empty.
>>>>>
>>>>> My husband uses so much ice, our icemaker can't keep up. His
>>>>> idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice,
>>>>>
>>>>> then add tap water. He drinks perhaps half a dozen of those
>>>>> every day.
>>>>
>>>> Is that 3.2 kilos/litres? Does he think he's a mermaid? Does he have a
>>>> tail?
>>>
>>> 32 ounces is almost a litre.
>>
>> Oh, I do that too.
>
> I hope yoose go to a Urologist often to have yoose prostate checked.
>

Why? He doesn't have one.

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:15:17 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:37:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 11:22:47 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>>> On 2020-08-09 9:10 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> > On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >> My criteria was simple.* About the same size as I'd become used to.
>>> >> No ice cube trays.* Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>>> >> digital displays.* As few electronics as possible.* Please don't
>>> >> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>>> >>
>>> >> Jill
>>> >
>>> > Sounds like a good choice.* I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>>> > and water dispenser.
>>>
>>> It seems to be a N. American obsession to have ice in everything. I had
>>> a chilled rosé with dinner this evening and I like chilled lager but the
>>> ice-cube trays in the freezer are empty.
>>
>>My husband uses so much ice, our icemaker can't keep up. His
>>idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice,
>>then add tap water. He drinks perhaps half a dozen of those
>>every day.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
>I would too. Don't have an ice maker but my drinking water must be
>cold, preferred with ice. Tepid water does not make my mouth happy.
>I specifically bought a water bottle(s) that will accept larger ice
>cubes. There must be more people like me because I see now that most
>water bottles come with the wider mouth.
>Janet US

Nah, most are intelligent enough to keep their water bottles in the
freezer.

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 2:05:47 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 2:02:59 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> >
> > This doesn't have a darn thing to do with water filters. But if I don't
> > write it on the kitchen calendar when I get a new one to change a/c
> > filters every three months, they'd never get changed. Pens and markers
> > still have a use in this day and age.
> >
> > )
>
> Heh. We have a sheet of paper affixed to the furnace plenum by a magnet
> and a pencil hung nearby with a piece of string. At least we know how
> late we were.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
My furnace is in the basement and the fresh air return and grill that
hold the filter are in the hallway; thus the calendar. I probably
don't go in the basement but maybe once a year.

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:20:42 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>graham wrote:
>>
>> On 2020-08-09 9:10 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> >>>
>> >> My criteria was simple. About the same size as I'd become used to.
>> >> No ice cube trays. Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>> >> digital displays. As few electronics as possible. Please don't
>> >> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >
>> > Sounds like a good choice. I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>> > and water dispenser.
>>
>> It seems to be a N. American obsession to have ice in everything. I had
>> a chilled rosé with dinner this evening and I like chilled lager but the
>> ice-cube trays in the freezer are empty.
>
>I keep 2 ice cube trays in the freezer but rarely use them.
>Often, when I think of them, they have evaporated to tiny size.
>Main time I check on them is when my daughter will be coming
>for a visit. She likes ice.

Go to the nearest convenience store and spend $2.49 on your daughter
for a large bag of Klear Kubes.

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 05:36:37 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/9/2020 11:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> My criteria was simple.* About the same size as I'd become used to.
>>> No ice cube trays.* Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>>> digital displays.* As few electronics as possible.* Please don't
>>> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Sounds like a good choice.* I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>> and water dispenser.
>
>I've gotten used to it. I really didn't want to go back to
>constantly refilling ice-cube trays.
>
>Jill

It's just you, how many ice cube trays do you use?
It's two of us, I must fill the four ice cube trays a whopping twice a
day.

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 3:13:43 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 2:05:47 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 2:02:59 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > >
> > > This doesn't have a darn thing to do with water filters. But if I don't
> > > write it on the kitchen calendar when I get a new one to change a/c
> > > filters every three months, they'd never get changed. Pens and markers
> > > still have a use in this day and age.
> > >
> > > )
> >
> > Heh. We have a sheet of paper affixed to the furnace plenum by a magnet
> > and a pencil hung nearby with a piece of string. At least we know how
> > late we were.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> My furnace is in the basement and the fresh air return and grill that
> hold the filter are in the hallway; thus the calendar. I probably
> don't go in the basement but maybe once a year.

Ah. All our mechanicals are in the basement.

I go down there every day or two to get something out of (or put something
into) the second refrigerator.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 06:11:10 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 8:21:18 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> > On 8/9/2020 11:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > > On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>>
>> > >> My criteria was simple. About the same size as I'd become used to.
>> > >> No ice cube trays. Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>> > >> digital displays. As few electronics as possible. Please don't
>> > >> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>> > >>
>> > >> Jill
>> > >
>> > > Sounds like a good choice. I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>> > > and water dispenser.
>> >
>> > I've gotten used to it. I really didn't want to go back to
>> > constantly refilling ice-cube trays.
>>
>> No time for that?
>
>It's not the time. It's remembering, filling, spilling, cracking, being
>unable to get the cubes out of the damned trays. The entire experience
>is outmoded.
>
>That reminds me; I should check the filter on our icemaker line to see
>if it needs to be replaced. My husband has probably already taken care
>of that.
>
>Cindy Hamilton\

Definitely something wrong with your brain... takes me less than two
minutes to fill two ice cube trays. All I can think is that your ass
is too fat to get up from the couch.

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 05:36:37 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/9/2020 11:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> My criteria was simple.* About the same size as I'd become used to.
>>>> No ice cube trays.* Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>>>> digital displays.* As few electronics as possible.* Please don't
>>>> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Sounds like a good choice.* I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>>> and water dispenser.
>>
>> I've gotten used to it. I really didn't want to go back to
>> constantly refilling ice-cube trays.
>>
>> Jill
>
> It's just you, how many ice cube trays do you use?
> It's two of us, I must fill the four ice cube trays a whopping twice a
> day.
>

Poor Popeye! Yoose deserve a break. Pour yooself a tall glass of
crystal palace.

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 14:59:51 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 21:03:53 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 6:39:23 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:37:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 11:22:47 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>>>> >> On 2020-08-09 9:10 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> >> > On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> My criteria was simple.Â* About the same size as I'd become used to.
>>>> >> >> No ice cube trays.Â* Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>>>> >> >> digital displays.Â* As few electronics as possible.Â* Please don't
>>>> >> >> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Jill
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Sounds like a good choice.Â* I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>>>> >> > and water dispenser.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It seems to be a N. American obsession to have ice in everything. I had
>>>> >> a chilled rosé with dinner this evening and I like chilled lager but the
>>>> >> ice-cube trays in the freezer are empty.
>>>> >
>>>> >My husband uses so much ice, our icemaker can't keep up. His
>>>> >idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice,
>>>> >
>>>> >then add tap water. He drinks perhaps half a dozen of those
>>>> >every day.
>>>>
>>>> Is that 3.2 kilos/litres? Does he think he's a mermaid? Does he have a
>>>> tail?
>>>
>>>32 ounces is almost a litre.
>>
>>Oh, I do that too.
>
>I hope yoose go to a Urologist often to have yoose prostate checked.

Because I drink a litre of water a day?

On 2020-08-10 3:05 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
)
>
> Heh. We have a sheet of paper affixed to the furnace plenum by a magnet
> and a pencil hung nearby with a piece of string. At least we know how
> late we were.

If you went by the calls you get from duct cleaning services saying that
it is time to get them done again it would probably be an adequate
reminder for the filter change.

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 4:18:45 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-08-10 3:05 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> )
> >
> > Heh. We have a sheet of paper affixed to the furnace plenum by a magnet
> > and a pencil hung nearby with a piece of string. At least we know how
> > late we were.
>
> If you went by the calls you get from duct cleaning services saying that
> it is time to get them done again it would probably be an adequate
> reminder for the filter change.

We don't get those calls. Benefit of not having a landline.

We have two filters. One serves as a prefilter. It uses something like
this:

<https://www.grainger.com/product/5W498>

We try to change that once a month.

The other filter is a big pleated job. I think we change that twice a year.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2020-08-10 4:34 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 4:18:45 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-08-10 3:05 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> )
>>>
>>> Heh. We have a sheet of paper affixed to the furnace plenum by a magnet
>>> and a pencil hung nearby with a piece of string. At least we know how
>>> late we were.
>>
>> If you went by the calls you get from duct cleaning services saying that
>> it is time to get them done again it would probably be an adequate
>> reminder for the filter change.
>
> We don't get those calls. Benefit of not having a landline.

I got one on my cell phone a couple nights ago.

>
> We have two filters. One serves as a prefilter. It uses something like
> this:
>
> <https://www.grainger.com/product/5W498>
>
> We try to change that once a month.
>
> The other filter is a big pleated job. I think we change that twice a year.
>


When I got my new furnace and AC a few years back I asked the installer
about filters. He said to just get the cheap ones and change them monthly.

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 2:34:39 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Ah. All our mechanicals are in the basement.
>
> I go down there every day or two to get something out of (or put something
> into) the second refrigerator.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
My furnace, water heater, and a sump pump are the only thing down there.
It's a dugout with a vapor barrier laid on the dirt floor and thankfully
there is no reason for me to go to that dungeon.

Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 14:59:51 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 21:03:53 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 6:39:23 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:37:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 11:22:47 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2020-08-09 9:10 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My criteria was simple.Â* About the same size as I'd become used to.
>>>>>>>>> No ice cube trays.Â* Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>>>>>>>>> digital displays.Â* As few electronics as possible.Â* Please don't
>>>>>>>>> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sounds like a good choice.Â* I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>>>>>>>> and water dispenser.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems to be a N. American obsession to have ice in everything. I had
>>>>>>> a chilled rosé with dinner this evening and I like chilled lager but the
>>>>>>> ice-cube trays in the freezer are empty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My husband uses so much ice, our icemaker can't keep up. His
>>>>>> idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> then add tap water. He drinks perhaps half a dozen of those
>>>>>> every day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that 3.2 kilos/litres? Does he think he's a mermaid? Does he have a
>>>>> tail?
>>>>
>>>> 32 ounces is almost a litre.
>>>
>>> Oh, I do that too.
>>
>> I hope yoose go to a Urologist often to have yoose prostate checked.
>
> Because I drink a litre of water a day?
>

Popeye really enjoys his trips to get his prostate checked.

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:11:42 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 09:15:17 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:37:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 11:22:47 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>>>> On 2020-08-09 9:10 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> > On 8/9/2020 4:45 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> My criteria was simple.* About the same size as I'd become used to.
>>>> >> No ice cube trays.* Don't need it connected to wi-fi or to have
>>>> >> digital displays.* As few electronics as possible.* Please don't
>>>> >> mention "motherboard" and refrigerator to me in the same breath. LOL
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jill
>>>> >
>>>> > Sounds like a good choice.* I'd never have a fridge without an ice maker
>>>> > and water dispenser.
>>>>
>>>> It seems to be a N. American obsession to have ice in everything. I had
>>>> a chilled rosé with dinner this evening and I like chilled lager but the
>>>> ice-cube trays in the freezer are empty.
>>>
>>>My husband uses so much ice, our icemaker can't keep up. His
>>>idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice,
>>>then add tap water. He drinks perhaps half a dozen of those
>>>every day.
>>>
>>>Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>I would too. Don't have an ice maker but my drinking water must be
>>cold, preferred with ice. Tepid water does not make my mouth happy.
>>I specifically bought a water bottle(s) that will accept larger ice
>>cubes. There must be more people like me because I see now that most
>>water bottles come with the wider mouth.
>>Janet US
>
>Nah, most are intelligent enough to keep their water bottles in the
>freezer.

water bottles generally instruct the buyer not to put them in the
freezer. Having it in the freezer does me no good when I want a
water bottle bed side during the night. With ice, my water bottle
still has ice 36-40 hours later.
Janet US

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 4:50:21 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> water bottles generally instruct the buyer not to put them in the
> freezer. Having it in the freezer does me no good when I want a
> water bottle bed side during the night. With ice, my water bottle
> still has ice 36-40 hours later.
> Janet US
>
I've got two water bottles in the refrigerator. One is just a 24 or 26
ounce one with a 'built-in' straw and I drink out of it throughout the
day. The other one is a 34 or 36-ounce metal insulated bottle and it
goes with me when I leave the house. It stays in the 'frig door a bit
over 3/4 full of water and I have one of those blue ice 'sticks' that
stays in the freezer. When I head out the door the 'stick' goes in that
insulated bottle and the water stays COLD for at least 24-36 hours.

On 2020-08-10 6:03 p.m., wrote:
> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 4:50:21 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> water bottles generally instruct the buyer not to put them in the
>> freezer. Having it in the freezer does me no good when I want a
>> water bottle bed side during the night. With ice, my water bottle
>> still has ice 36-40 hours later.
>> Janet US
>>
> I've got two water bottles in the refrigerator. One is just a 24 or 26
> ounce one with a 'built-in' straw and I drink out of it throughout the
> day. The other one is a 34 or 36-ounce metal insulated bottle and it
> goes with me when I leave the house. It stays in the 'frig door a bit
> over 3/4 full of water and I have one of those blue ice 'sticks' that
> stays in the freezer. When I head out the door the 'stick' goes in that
> insulated bottle and the water stays COLD for at least 24-36 hours.

I may be the oddball in the group, but I don't get all that excited
about ice water. I drink a lot of water every day, much of it at room
temperature. Sometimes I keep some in the fridge. I public water
fountains and many of them are cooled. I carry a refillable plastic
bottle full of water in a bag on my motorcycle. Most times I am out
riding that water is likely to be almost warm, but it still works for me.

>

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:03:19 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 4:50:21 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> water bottles generally instruct the buyer not to put them in the
>> freezer. Having it in the freezer does me no good when I want a
>> water bottle bed side during the night. With ice, my water bottle
>> still has ice 36-40 hours later.
>> Janet US
>>
>I've got two water bottles in the refrigerator. One is just a 24 or 26
>ounce one with a 'built-in' straw and I drink out of it throughout the
>day. The other one is a 34 or 36-ounce metal insulated bottle and it
>goes with me when I leave the house. It stays in the 'frig door a bit
>over 3/4 full of water and I have one of those blue ice 'sticks' that
>stays in the freezer. When I head out the door the 'stick' goes in that
>insulated bottle and the water stays COLD for at least 24-36 hours.

Talking about heading out the door, how's the biking going?

U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 13:10:04 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> > I'm expecting delivery of one if not tomorrow then later in the
> > week.
> >
> > My probably 20 year old GE 23.5 cu. foot side by side fridge
> > started giving me trouble towards the end of June. I have a home
> > warranty plan and they sent someone out from Sears to repair it.
> > Service call deductible is only $45. The evaporator coil was
> > frozen solid. He had to take the inside of the freezer apart. He
> > used a steamer to defrost it. He got it working temporarily. He
> > said he'd order the necesary part but with a fridge that old they
> > likely couldn't get one. Sure enough...
> >
> > So, the fridge went out again a few weeks later. Okay warranty
> > people, talk to the repairman. They can't find the part. Time to
> > replace the fridge. They initially offered me $499. I disputed
> > that. Counter-offer: a check for $650. Is that your final offer?
> > Yes. Okay, I'll take it. Time to shop for a new fridge!
> >
> > Meanwhile, the freezer side of the mostly kaput fridge is still
> > cold enough to act as a refrigerator. So I didn't lose all my
> > food. And thank goodness, I have a stand-alone freezer. I have
> > had to buy bags of ice for cold drinks in the meantime.
> >
> > I finally got around to buying a new side-by-side fridge on Friday.
> > I did a lot of comparison shopping. I was hoping to buy locally (I
> > guess I can call Hilton Head "local"). Help small business during
> > the pandemic, don'tcha know. Bill Wood Appliances. In business
> > for 45 years. The woman I spoke with said they simply didn't have
> > any refrigerators in stock because of the pandemic. Their supply
> > chain has been disrupted. At least they're still open and someone
> > was there to answer the phone.
> >
> > I wound up buying one from Lowe's. There's a Lowe's in town but I
> > bought it online.
> >
> > It's a Frigidaire, 22 cu. ft. side by side with ice/water
> > dispenser. I drink a lot of ice water and I'm soooo not going back
> > to ice cube trays again! Free delivery but every place now charges
> > for hauling away the old appliance.
> >
> > My stand-alone upright freezer is a Frigidaire and I haven't any
> > any problems with it.
> >
> > Once again, thanks to the virus, it might be delivered tomorrow but
> > they'll call ahead of time to let me know. That's a good thing,
> > actually. I need time to remove what few things are in the old
> > fridge/freezer before they install the new one and haul the old one
> > away.
> >
> > At least Lowe's had two of them in stock. Supply seems to be a
> > real problem everwhere I looked.
> >
> > Jill
>
> You are so right. Everyone charges to haul away these days.
> Mattresses, refrigerators, sofas. If you can get the refrigerator
> guys to haul it to the curb, will your waste management company come
> by to haul your old fridge away? Here, if I give them a call, they
> have a special truck that does nothing but haul that kind of stuff
> away -- you just have to get it to the curb for the special pick up
> day.
> Janet US

When we got our new one, we paid for haul away but ended up freecycling
it locally to a family that needed it, which was better than landfill
destination. It was still fully working.

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>
> Talking about heading out the door, how's the biking going?
>
Great! But on some days when it super hot and the humidity is sweltering
I don't ride.

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-08-10 4:34 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 4:18:45 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2020-08-10 3:05 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> )
> >>>
> >>> Heh. We have a sheet of paper affixed to the furnace plenum by a magnet
> >>> and a pencil hung nearby with a piece of string. At least we know how
> >>> late we were.
> >>
> >> If you went by the calls you get from duct cleaning services saying that
> >> it is time to get them done again it would probably be an adequate
> >> reminder for the filter change.
> >
> > We don't get those calls. Benefit of not having a landline.
>
> I got one on my cell phone a couple nights ago.

Perhaps I do too. I rarely answer unless I recognize the number.

> >
> > We have two filters. One serves as a prefilter. It uses something like
> > this:
> >
> > <https://www.grainger.com/product/5W498>
> >
> > We try to change that once a month.
> >
> > The other filter is a big pleated job. I think we change that twice a year.
> >
>
>
> When I got my new furnace and AC a few years back I asked the installer
> about filters. He said to just get the cheap ones and change them monthly.

My asthmatic husband is in charge of air quality.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 5:28:47 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 2:34:39 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Ah. All our mechanicals are in the basement.
> >
> > I go down there every day or two to get something out of (or put something
> > into) the second refrigerator.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> My furnace, water heater, and a sump pump are the only thing down there.
> It's a dugout with a vapor barrier laid on the dirt floor and thankfully
> there is no reason for me to go to that dungeon.

Ah. Mine's 6-7 feet tall with concrete block walls and a concrete
floor. A proper Northern basement.

How tall is yours?

Cindy Hamilton

Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >I keep 2 ice cube trays in the freezer but rarely use them.
> >Often, when I think of them, they have evaporated to tiny size.
> >Main time I check on them is when my daughter will be coming
> >for a visit. She likes ice.
>
> Go to the nearest convenience store and spend $2.49 on your daughter
> for a large bag of Klear Kubes.

That clear ice is cool but I wouldn't need that for daughter.
She makes coffee and immediately turns it into ice coffee.
She only uses one tray per visit.

Interestingly, when the swamps of my local state park freezes
over (not for many years now), it's perfectly clear ice. You
can walk over it and see the bottom perfectly about 12" down.

Any other ponds or lakes here freeze to frosty ice.

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 20:18:56 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>
>> Talking about heading out the door, how's the biking going?
>>
>Great! But on some days when it super hot and the humidity is sweltering
>I don't ride.

With the pandemic I notice many more bikes around, that's good, we
have long had bike lanes that nobody seemed to use.