Our local newspaper publishes the results of the previous week
inspections by the health department. Most of the violations are minor
and corrected at the time of visit by the inspector. Things like raw
food stored over cooked food, lack of a sign, no record of training.
Occasionally there will be the more serious like rodent droppings or
insects. A few months ago, one place was so bad they shut it down.

They also publish the inspections that had no violations. I noticed
this week who the best were. All the fast food places we often
denigrate about the quality of food. The Burger Kings and McDonald's
had zero violations. Regardless of the food, they seem to have a good
system and employees follow the rules for sanitation.

On 10/12/2019 9:30 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Our local newspaper publishes the results of the previous week
> inspections by the health department.Â* Most of the violations are minor
> and corrected at the time of visit by the inspector.Â* Things like raw
> food stored over cooked food, lack of a sign, no record of training.
> Occasionally there will be the more serious like rodent droppings or
> insects.Â* A few months ago, one place was so bad they shut it down.
>
Back in the 1990's when there was a local TV show that announced the
results of restaurant inpsections. There was a little cafeteria type
place in the building where I worked. I and co-workers would stop in
there to pick up something for breakfast.

Saw on TV how they'd found roaches and who knows what in the kitchen.
Big fail by the health department. It was shut down immediately afterwards.

Dang... I had to figure out how to make my own bacon & egg on toast
sandwiches

Jill

On 10/13/2019 2:52 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/12/2019 9:30 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Our local newspaper publishes the results of the previous week
>> inspections by the health department.Â* Most of the violations are
>> minor and corrected at the time of visit by the inspector.Â* Things
>> like raw food stored over cooked food, lack of a sign, no record of
>> training. Occasionally there will be the more serious like rodent
>> droppings or insects.Â* A few months ago, one place was so bad they
>> shut it down.
>>
> Back in the 1990's when there was a local TV show that announced the
> results of restaurant inpsections.Â* There was a little cafeteria type
> place in the building where I worked.Â* I and co-workers would stop in
> there to pick up something for breakfast.
>
> Saw on TV how they'd found roaches and who knows what in the kitchen.
> Big fail by the health department.Â* It was shut down immediately
> afterwards.
>
> Dang... I had to figure out how to make my own bacon & egg on toast
> sandwiches
>
> Jill

If you ever watch the TV makeover shows you get a little cautious about
eating out at any place. Sure, a little slip-up can happen but basic
sanitation and getting rodent control if needed is not hard.

On 10/13/2019 1:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/13/2019 2:52 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 10/12/2019 9:30 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> Our local newspaper publishes the results of the previous week
>>> inspections by the health department.Â* Most of the violations are
>>> minor and corrected at the time of visit by the inspector.Â* Things
>>> like raw food stored over cooked food, lack of a sign, no record of
>>> training. Occasionally there will be the more serious like rodent
>>> droppings or insects.Â* A few months ago, one place was so bad they
>>> shut it down.
>>>
>> Back in the 1990's when there was a local TV show that announced the
>> results of restaurant inpsections.Â* There was a little cafeteria type
>> place in the building where I worked.Â* I and co-workers would stop in
>> there to pick up something for breakfast.
>>
>> Saw on TV how they'd found roaches and who knows what in the kitchen.
>> Big fail by the health department.Â* It was shut down immediately
>> afterwards.
>>
>> Dang... I had to figure out how to make my own bacon & egg on toast
>> sandwiches
>>
>> Jill
>
> If you ever watch the TV makeover shows you get a little cautious
> about eating out at any place.Â* Sure, a little slip-up can happen but
> basic sanitation and getting rodent control if needed is not hard.


Â* Having worked management in a fast food place (Pizza Slut Delivery) I
can say that if your sanitation is good you won't have a rodent problem
.. Or a roach problem , though we took precautions anyway because they
can come in on produce . Our grandson recently introduced my wife to
Chef Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares ,,,

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 14:11:29 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 10/13/2019 2:52 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 10/12/2019 9:30 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> Our local newspaper publishes the results of the previous week
>>> inspections by the health department.* Most of the violations are
>>> minor and corrected at the time of visit by the inspector.* Things
>>> like raw food stored over cooked food, lack of a sign, no record of
>>> training. Occasionally there will be the more serious like rodent
>>> droppings or insects.* A few months ago, one place was so bad they
>>> shut it down.
>>>
>> Back in the 1990's when there was a local TV show that announced the
>> results of restaurant inpsections.* There was a little cafeteria type
>> place in the building where I worked.* I and co-workers would stop in
>> there to pick up something for breakfast.
>>
>> Saw on TV how they'd found roaches and who knows what in the kitchen.
>> Big fail by the health department.* It was shut down immediately
>> afterwards.
>>
>> Dang... I had to figure out how to make my own bacon & egg on toast
>> sandwiches
>>
>> Jill
>
>If you ever watch the TV makeover shows you get a little cautious about
>eating out at any place. Sure, a little slip-up can happen but basic
>sanitation and getting rodent control if needed is not hard.

The past few years have taught me that in reality, food hygiene
standards are whilst understandable, not actually necessary, and don't
necessarily stop food poisoning.

I wish I took pics of where we ate last night. You guys would have a
total shit-fit Absolutely delicious food, all ingredients fresh
that day. Open kitchen, with a dirt floor (in fact the whole place is
open, no doors or walls). Old broken cement sink, impossible to truly
clean hygienically. No refrigeration (other than for drinks). Rats?
Lots of them (although I didn't spot one last night). The only time
I've been sick from eating food was in Australia, FWIW.

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:30:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>Our local newspaper publishes the results of the previous week
>inspections by the health department. Most of the violations are minor
>and corrected at the time of visit by the inspector. Things like raw
>food stored over cooked food, lack of a sign, no record of training.
>Occasionally there will be the more serious like rodent droppings or
>insects. A few months ago, one place was so bad they shut it down.
>
>They also publish the inspections that had no violations. I noticed
>this week who the best were. All the fast food places we often
>denigrate about the quality of food. The Burger Kings and McDonald's
>had zero violations. Regardless of the food, they seem to have a good
>system and employees follow the rules for sanitation.
>

yeah I worked for McD's back in the 90's I was 17 years old and a
manager. We had to makes sure the entire store was sanitized always,
we had buckets of bleach water all around. Full of towels to clean
stuff. The cold storage had to be perfect. Employee cleanliness was
very important, things like hair length and fingernail length.

Even with all of that the food is still crap! That shit is like poison

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 04:18:20 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 14:11:29 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 10/13/2019 2:52 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>> Back in the 1990's when there was a local TV show that announced the
>>> results of restaurant inpsections.Â* There was a little cafeteria type
>>> place in the building where I worked.Â* I and co-workers would stop in
>>> there to pick up something for breakfast.
>>>
>>> Saw on TV how they'd found roaches and who knows what in the kitchen.
>>> Big fail by the health department.Â* It was shut down immediately
>>> afterwards.
>>>
>>> Dang... I had to figure out how to make my own bacon & egg on toast
>>> sandwiches
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>If you ever watch the TV makeover shows you get a little cautious about
>>eating out at any place. Sure, a little slip-up can happen but basic
>>sanitation and getting rodent control if needed is not hard.
>
>The past few years have taught me that in reality, food hygiene
>standards are whilst understandable, not actually necessary

Lol, Jebus lives in Thailand and suddenly food hygiene standards
aren't necessary. Silly man.

On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 16:19:45 -0500,
wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:30:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>Our local newspaper publishes the results of the previous week
>>inspections by the health department. Most of the violations are minor
>>and corrected at the time of visit by the inspector. Things like raw
>>food stored over cooked food, lack of a sign, no record of training.
>>Occasionally there will be the more serious like rodent droppings or
>>insects. A few months ago, one place was so bad they shut it down.
>>
>>They also publish the inspections that had no violations. I noticed
>>this week who the best were. All the fast food places we often
>>denigrate about the quality of food. The Burger Kings and McDonald's
>>had zero violations. Regardless of the food, they seem to have a good
>>system and employees follow the rules for sanitation.
>>
>
>yeah I worked for McD's back in the 90's I was 17 years old and a
>manager. We had to makes sure the entire store was sanitized always,
>we had buckets of bleach water all around. Full of towels to clean
>stuff. The cold storage had to be perfect. Employee cleanliness was
>very important, things like hair length and fingernail length.
>
>Even with all of that the food is still crap! That shit is like poison

It is but not because of the gluten.

On Sunday, October 13, 2019 at 11:19:51 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>
> yeah I worked for McD's back in the 90's I was 17 years old and a
> manager. We had to makes sure the entire store was sanitized always,
> we had buckets of bleach water all around. Full of towels to clean
> stuff. The cold storage had to be perfect. Employee cleanliness was
> very important, things like hair length and fingernail length.
>
> Even with all of that the food is still crap! That shit is like poison
>
> --
>
> ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

A friend in high school worked at McDonald's. He was a manager too. I thought he was kind of a goody-two-shoes kind of guy. OTOH, he drove a new Camaro. Damn!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHQ5lm8LcKc

On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 14:58:21 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Sunday, October 13, 2019 at 11:19:51 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>
>> yeah I worked for McD's back in the 90's I was 17 years old and a
>> manager. We had to makes sure the entire store was sanitized always,
>> we had buckets of bleach water all around. Full of towels to clean
>> stuff. The cold storage had to be perfect. Employee cleanliness was
>> very important, things like hair length and fingernail length.
>>
>> Even with all of that the food is still crap! That shit is like poison
>>
>> --
>>
>> ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____
>
>A friend in high school worked at McDonald's. He was a manager too. I thought he was kind of a goody-two-shoes kind of guy. OTOH, he drove a new Camaro. Damn!
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHQ5lm8LcKc

LOL I drove a Toyota supra...

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

On Sunday, October 13, 2019 at 4:19:20 PM UTC-10,
>
> LOL I drove a Toyota supra...
>
> --
>
> ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

Excellent choice.

On Sunday, October 13, 2019 at 4:19:51 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:30:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >Our local newspaper publishes the results of the previous week
> >inspections by the health department. Most of the violations are minor
> >and corrected at the time of visit by the inspector. Things like raw
> >food stored over cooked food, lack of a sign, no record of training.
> >Occasionally there will be the more serious like rodent droppings or
> >insects. A few months ago, one place was so bad they shut it down.
> >
> >They also publish the inspections that had no violations. I noticed
> >this week who the best were. All the fast food places we often
> >denigrate about the quality of food. The Burger Kings and McDonald's
> >had zero violations. Regardless of the food, they seem to have a good
> >system and employees follow the rules for sanitation.
> >
>
> yeah I worked for McD's back in the 90's I was 17 years old and a
> manager. We had to makes sure the entire store was sanitized always,
> we had buckets of bleach water all around. Full of towels to clean
> stuff. The cold storage had to be perfect. Employee cleanliness was
> very important, things like hair length and fingernail length.
>
> Even with all of that the food is still crap! That shit is like poison
>
> --
>
> ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

Yep, that's why I call them McCraps!

John Kuthe...

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 8:30:44 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
....
> They also publish the inspections that had no violations. I noticed
> this week who the best were. All the fast food places we often
> denigrate about the quality of food. The Burger Kings and McDonald's
> had zero violations. Regardless of the food, they seem to have a good
> system and employees follow the rules for sanitation.

When you sell food that bacteria will not even eat, it's easier to maintain sanitation rules!

I took the Food Service Sanitation course required for at least one (me) employee in the donut shop I worked at in the early 1980s.

John Kuthe...

"Jeßus" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 14:11:29 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 10/13/2019 2:52 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 10/12/2019 9:30 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> Our local newspaper publishes the results of the previous week
>>> inspections by the health department. Most of the violations are
>>> minor and corrected at the time of visit by the inspector. Things
>>> like raw food stored over cooked food, lack of a sign, no record of
>>> training. Occasionally there will be the more serious like rodent
>>> droppings or insects. A few months ago, one place was so bad they
>>> shut it down.
>>>
>> Back in the 1990's when there was a local TV show that announced the
>> results of restaurant inpsections. There was a little cafeteria type
>> place in the building where I worked. I and co-workers would stop in
>> there to pick up something for breakfast.
>>
>> Saw on TV how they'd found roaches and who knows what in the kitchen.
>> Big fail by the health department. It was shut down immediately
>> afterwards.
>>
>> Dang... I had to figure out how to make my own bacon & egg on toast
>> sandwiches
>>
>> Jill
>
>If you ever watch the TV makeover shows you get a little cautious about
>eating out at any place. Sure, a little slip-up can happen but basic
>sanitation and getting rodent control if needed is not hard.

The past few years have taught me that in reality, food hygiene
standards are whilst understandable, not actually necessary, and don't
necessarily stop food poisoning.

I wish I took pics of where we ate last night. You guys would have a
total shit-fit Absolutely delicious food, all ingredients fresh
that day. Open kitchen, with a dirt floor (in fact the whole place is
open, no doors or walls). Old broken cement sink, impossible to truly
clean hygienically. No refrigeration (other than for drinks). Rats?
Lots of them (although I didn't spot one last night). The only time
I've been sick from eating food was in Australia, FWIW.

==

Enjoy)

writes:
>Our local newspaper publishes the results of the previous week
>inspections by the health department. Most of the violations are minor
>and corrected at the time of visit by the inspector. Things like raw
>food stored over cooked food, lack of a sign, no record of training.
>Occasionally there will be the more serious like rodent droppings or
>insects. A few months ago, one place was so bad they shut it down.
>
>They also publish the inspections that had no violations. I noticed
>this week who the best were. All the fast food places we often
>denigrate about the quality of food. The Burger Kings and McDonald's
>had zero violations. Regardless of the food, they seem to have a good
>system and employees follow the rules for sanitation.



they've got easy to understand signs posted in all restaurants in
King County

<https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health/environmental-health/food-safety/inspection-system/~/media/depts/health/environmental-health/images/food-safety/food-safety-rating-poster-explained.ashx>

On 2019-10-14, tert in seattle > wrote:

> they've got easy to understand signs posted in all restaurants in
> King County

Most are bogus.

Saw an episode of "Kitchen Nightmares" in which Gordon put an "F" over
the "A" rating the resto had received, cuz the "walk-in" was THE
"Nightmare".

nb

wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:30:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > Our local newspaper publishes the results of the previous week
> > inspections by the health department. Most of the violations are
> > minor and corrected at the time of visit by the inspector. Things
> > like raw food stored over cooked food, lack of a sign, no record of
> > training. Occasionally there will be the more serious like rodent
> > droppings or insects. A few months ago, one place was so bad they
> > shut it down.
> >
> > They also publish the inspections that had no violations. I
> > noticed this week who the best were. All the fast food places we
> > often denigrate about the quality of food. The Burger Kings and
> > McDonald's had zero violations. Regardless of the food, they seem
> > to have a good system and employees follow the rules for sanitation.
> >
>
> yeah I worked for McD's back in the 90's I was 17 years old and a
> manager. We had to makes sure the entire store was sanitized always,
> we had buckets of bleach water all around. Full of towels to clean
> stuff. The cold storage had to be perfect. Employee cleanliness was
> very important, things like hair length and fingernail length.
>
> Even with all of that the food is still crap! That shit is like poison
>
> --
>
> ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

I worked in a Taco Bell for a bit while in College. I swear, you COULD
eat off the floor with no fear.

On 2019-10-15, cshenk > wrote:

> I worked in a Taco Bell for a bit while in College. I swear, you COULD
> eat off the floor with no fear.

Glad to hear it!

Like Chris Porter, I looooove Taco Bell.

Unfortunately, we lost our's about 4 yrs ago (along with KFC, which
was partnered in the same bldg).

nb

On 2019-10-14 8:06 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> yeah I worked for McD's back in the 90's I was 17 years old and a
>> manager. We had to makes sure the entire store was sanitized always,
>> we had buckets of bleach water all around. Full of towels to clean
>> stuff. The cold storage had to be perfect. Employee cleanliness was
>> very important, things like hair length and fingernail length.
>>
>> Even with all of that the food is still crap! That shit is like poison
>>
>> --
>>
>> ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____
>
> I worked in a Taco Bell for a bit while in College. I swear, you COULD
> eat off the floor with no fear.
>

One day I was working in the Hamilton area and went to a Tim Hortons for
coffee. It was a brand new store in an area where there was a lot of
building going on and it was mid winter. I opened the outside door and
someone else was coming out and had opened the inner door. A mouse
scooted in past me and through the second door. When I ordered my
coffee I discretely told the girl at the counter about their invader.
It is not like the place was infested with rodents before I let that
mouse in, but if another customer saw it inside they would assume that
it was.

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 23:29:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-10-14 8:06 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>
>> I worked in a Taco Bell for a bit while in College. I swear, you COULD
>> eat off the floor with no fear.
>>
>
>One day I was working in the Hamilton area and went to a Tim Hortons for
>coffee. It was a brand new store in an area where there was a lot of
>building going on and it was mid winter. I opened the outside door and
>someone else was coming out and had opened the inner door. A mouse
>scooted in past me and through the second door. When I ordered my
>coffee I discretely told the girl at the counter about their invader.
>It is not like the place was infested with rodents before I let that
>mouse in, but if another customer saw it inside they would assume that
>it was.

Dave, you have such an exciting life! Just reading about it is
thrilling!

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Our local newspaper publishes the results of the previous week
> inspections by the health department. Most of the violations are minor
> and corrected at the time of visit by the inspector. Things like raw
> food stored over cooked food, lack of a sign, no record of training.
> Occasionally there will be the more serious like rodent droppings or
> insects. A few months ago, one place was so bad they shut it down.
>
> They also publish the inspections that had no violations. I noticed
> this week who the best were. All the fast food places we often
> denigrate about the quality of food. The Burger Kings and McDonald's
> had zero violations. Regardless of the food, they seem to have a good
> system and employees follow the rules for sanitation.

My neighbor has a Thai restaurant that got into trouble for removing a conditional pass placard. That wasn't too smart but who can blame her? That's like the kiss of death for restaurants. There's a $2000 fine for removing the signs. I'm not a big fan of the system or institutionalized public humiliation.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/1...ealth-placard/