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For Valentines day, I'm thinking about preparing a decadent
seven-course meal as my present to my boyfriend. This is just a tentative menu, but I was hoping for some feedback. Here goes: Cold appetizer course: Gravlax over cucumber salad Soup course: Carrot soup or roast garlic soup Hot appetizer course: Proscuitto-wrapped asparagus with fontina cheese sauce Pasta course: Cappellini with braised artichoke sauce Intermezzo: Sorbet (not sure what kind) Main course: Braised lamb shanks with white beans, swiss chard, and Herbes de Provence Salad course: Fennel, orange, and red onion salad OR mixed baby greens with raspberries Dessert: Flourless chocolate cake with almonds and espresso Whaddaya think? |
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![]() "Erica" > wrote in message om... > For Valentines day, I'm thinking about preparing a decadent > seven-course meal as my present to my boyfriend. This is just a > tentative menu, but I was hoping for some feedback. Here goes: > > Cold appetizer course: Gravlax over cucumber salad > Soup course: Carrot soup or roast garlic soup > Hot appetizer course: Proscuitto-wrapped asparagus with fontina cheese > sauce > Pasta course: Cappellini with braised artichoke sauce > Intermezzo: Sorbet (not sure what kind) > Main course: Braised lamb shanks with white beans, swiss chard, and > Herbes de Provence > Salad course: Fennel, orange, and red onion salad OR mixed baby greens > with raspberries > Dessert: Flourless chocolate cake with almonds and espresso > > Whaddaya think? Missing bone jumping. ;-) Dimitri |
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Erica wrote:
> For Valentines day, I'm thinking about preparing a decadent > seven-course meal as my present to my boyfriend. This is just a > tentative menu, but I was hoping for some feedback. Here goes: > > Cold appetizer course: Gravlax over cucumber salad > Soup course: Carrot soup or roast garlic soup > Hot appetizer course: Proscuitto-wrapped asparagus with fontina cheese > sauce > Pasta course: Cappellini with braised artichoke sauce > Intermezzo: Sorbet (not sure what kind) > Main course: Braised lamb shanks with white beans, swiss chard, and > Herbes de Provence > Salad course: Fennel, orange, and red onion salad OR mixed baby greens > with raspberries > Dessert: Flourless chocolate cake with almonds and espresso > > Whaddaya think? I'd think twice about the white beans. They give most people gas, not what you want for romance afterwards. I know they're traditional and tasty, but substitute a vegetable there, maybe sweet potatoes. --Lia |
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Erica wrote:
> Whaddaya think? I think I'm jealous -- my wife could use meal planning and cooking lessons from you. Luckily I do the cooking around here :-) -- John Gaughan http://www.johngaughan.net/ |
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John Gaughan > wrote in message >...
> Erica wrote: > > Whaddaya think? > > I think I'm jealous -- my wife could use meal planning and cooking > lessons from you. Luckily I do the cooking around here :-) He USED to cook until we started dating... ![]() |
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sf > wrote in message >. ..
> On 9 Feb 2004 19:22:28 -0800, (Erica) > wrote: > > I think you have a lot of time on your hands. Haha...my vices are few -- good food, good wine, and good cigars -- but I take them VERY seriously. Cooking decadent meals is one of my passions...I always find time to indulge, somehow ![]() Even if it means that I'm living off of bread and eggs for a week to afford this, hehe. |
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"Mia" > wrote in message >...
> I think that I wish I was your boyfriend -- you're wonderful to do all this > and the menu sounds different and very fresh. It seems like you can do the > prep for many of the recipes ahead of time. I especially like the simplicity > and elegance of the fennel, orange, red onion salad -- a citrusy vinaigrette > and some chopped walnuts over the top would be excellent with that. > Just curious -- how did you come up with this menu? I can't wait to steal > some of your ideas. ![]() > > Good luck with the dinner! > Mia Thanks! Here is how I came up with the menu: First, I wanted to have a traditional 7-course meal (even those I cut it down to 6 courses). Dishes had to comply with the following criteria -At least half of the dinner can be made ahead -Can prepare in portions for two (i.e. a whole roast duckling or leg of lamb is out) -Relatively inexpensive (asparagus OK, truffles not) -Utilize passive, rather than active cooking in order to maximize productivity (i.e. breaded cutlets is active cooking, a roast is passive). A must due to the number of courses. -Each dish has few ingredients. Since I'm making lots of courses, I had to use few ingredients to stay under budget. So no ten-herb ragout or anything. This is what my thought process was with the menu: I started out with the cold appetizer. He loves salmon but finds smoked salmon too overpowering. I asked if he likes gravlax, and he confessed that he's never even heard of it. So, I thought that it'd be nice to introduce it to him. I don't want finger food, as that seems more appropriate for a cocktail hour. So, rosettes of gravlax on cucumber rounds or slices of pumpernickel were out. I love cured salmon with tangy dairy (sour cream or cream cheese), and I think that the dill in the gravlax would be delicious with cucumbers, so I decided on a Hungarian cucumber salad. The sugar, salt, and vinegar in the salad meld with the similar flavors of the cured fish, and the cukes, onions, and sour cream will add a nice accent. Carrot soup is cheap, has few ingredients, is easy to prepare, and keeps in the fridge for days. The asparagus with proscuitto and fontina is a nice way of utilizing expensive ingredients without spending too much money. I can buy proscuitto by the slice and small quantities of cheese at my local supermarket, so I can use these decadent ingredients without breaking the bank, especially since no other ingredients are necessary. It also takes about ten minutes to make, start to finish. For the pasta, I didn't want a tomato-based sauce. Primavera has too many ingredients and is too complicated, he doesn't like anchovies, and shellfish is too expensive. A chunky sauce made with 1 or 2 artichokes, lemon, white wine, and herbs is elegant, simple, and can be prepared the day before. Sorbet is a given. The main dish had to be "passive" cooking. No cutlets, scallopine, rare beef, etc. I wanted something that I could cook all day long and serve straight from the oven. Osso Bucco was a thought, but I wanted something more French inspired. I decided on lamb shanks (a cheap cut that turns into something ambrosial after a long, moist, slow cooking) braised in veal stock and red wine with mirepoix and Herbes de Provence. The salads are standbys of mine. Flourless chocolate cake is based on ground almonds, brandy, espresso, and stiffly beaten egg whites, among other things. I make it every year for Passover and it is always a hit. It is served cold (so I can make ahead and refrigerate overnight), and I put a paper doily over the top, sift confectioners sugar over it, and carefully remove the doily for an elegant presentation. Love the chopped walnuts idea! Let me know if you want me to post any of the recipes. --Erica |
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Erica wrote:
> Love the chopped walnuts idea! Let me know if you want me to post any > of the recipes. > Don't shoot me for this request, but I want the recipe for the canteloupe sorbet. Yes, I was the one who suggested it, but that doesn't mean I know how to make it. I've tasted it on rare occasion and adore the flavor. I'd love to make it at home. --Lia |
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Not a problem! I am going to use the Cook's Illustrated master recipe for
fruit sorbet. I'm going to seek out very ripe, if not overripe, canteloupe, as to avoid having it taste like cardboard. Also, I am going to try to seek out a tiny bottle of Midori to use in lieu of the vodka. If not, I'll just use grain alcohol, as I think it is even more undetectable than vodka. I'm using the full 2 T of lemon juice. To all RFCers: I HIGHLY recommend getting a membership to http://www.cooksillustrated.com . You'll thank yourself over and over. -- Creamy Fruit Sorbets Forget about gelatin, egg whites, or corn syrup. The key to smooth, silky sorbets is plenty of sugar and a bit of alcohol. Challenge: Our goal was simple. Restaurant sorbets are invariably creamy and silky. They literally melt in your mouth, almost like ice cream. We found homemade sorbets tasted fine flavor-wise but tended to be overly icy. We wanted to figure out why. Solution: After much trial and error, we found that a high sugar concentration, simple as it is, turned out to be the solution to creamy sorbets. Sugar controls the texture (see "How to Retard Freezing"). By using one-half cup of sugar per cup of fruit (give or take a few tablespoons depending on the fruit), we were able to achieve the desired result: smooth, creamy texture without cloying sweetness. We also found adding a tablespoon of high-proof alcohol improves the texture of the sorbets and permits a slight reduction in the amount of sugar. Tasteless vodka is our first choice. MASTER TECHNIQUE FOR FRUIT SORBETS Serves 4 This recipe can be used to make any fruit sorbet. See the chart (download from link below) for directions on preparing the fruit puree or juice. Since vodka is tasteless, it can be used with any fruit, but other suggestions appear above. For fruits not listed, follow directions for a similar fruit. For example, follow the lemon recipe to make lime sorbet. 2 cups fruit puree or juice 3/4-1 1/4 cups sugar (see chart for exact amount) 0-2 tablespoons lemon juice 1 tablespoon vodka or other alcohol 1. Prepare fruit puree or juice as directed in chart. 2. Combine fruit puree or juice, sugar, lemon juice, and alcohol in large bowl. Stir on and off for several minutes until sugar has dissolved. (To speed chilling process in step 3, combine ingredients in a metal bowl set over a larger bowl filled with ice water.) Rub finger along bottom of bowl to see if sugar has dissolved. 3. Pour mixture into small container. Seal and refrigerate until mixture is no more than 40 degrees. (If mixture has been stirred over a bowl of ice water, it may already be cold enough, and this step may be omitted.) 4. Pour chilled mixture into container of an ice cream machine and churn until frozen. 5. Scoop frozen sorbet into a container. Seal and transfer container to freezer for several hours to allow sorbet to firm up. (Sorbet can be kept frozen for up to 3 days.) "Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message news:i8DWb.11796$uV3.29278@attbi_s51... > Erica wrote: > > > Love the chopped walnuts idea! Let me know if you want me to post any > > of the recipes. > > > > > > Don't shoot me for this request, but I want the recipe for the > canteloupe sorbet. Yes, I was the one who suggested it, but that > doesn't mean I know how to make it. I've tasted it on rare occasion and > adore the flavor. I'd love to make it at home. > > > --Lia > |
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![]() "Erica" > wrote in message om... > For Valentines day, I'm thinking about preparing a decadent > seven-course meal as my present to my boyfriend. This is just a > tentative menu, but I was hoping for some feedback. Here goes: > > Cold appetizer course: Gravlax over cucumber salad > Soup course: Carrot soup or roast garlic soup > Hot appetizer course: Proscuitto-wrapped asparagus with fontina cheese > sauce > Pasta course: Cappellini with braised artichoke sauce > Intermezzo: Sorbet (not sure what kind) > Main course: Braised lamb shanks with white beans, swiss chard, and > Herbes de Provence > Salad course: Fennel, orange, and red onion salad OR mixed baby greens > with raspberries > Dessert: Flourless chocolate cake with almonds and espresso > > Whaddaya think? Whip me Beat me Make me write bad checks I'm yours John ;-)~ |
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Erica wrote:
> For Valentines day, I'm thinking about preparing a decadent > seven-course meal as my present to my boyfriend. This is just a > tentative menu, but I was hoping for some feedback. Here goes: > > Cold appetizer course: Gravlax over cucumber salad > Soup course: Carrot soup or roast garlic soup > Hot appetizer course: Proscuitto-wrapped asparagus with fontina cheese > sauce > Pasta course: Cappellini with braised artichoke sauce > Intermezzo: Sorbet (not sure what kind) > Main course: Braised lamb shanks with white beans, swiss chard, and > Herbes de Provence > Salad course: Fennel, orange, and red onion salad OR mixed baby greens > with raspberries > Dessert: Flourless chocolate cake with almonds and espresso > > Whaddaya think? The carrot soup, not the roasted garlic. Garlic is hard on the breath which is not romantic. Roasted garlic isn't as bad as raw, but garlic still isn't associated with romance. Portion control will be a challenge. When presented with that much rich food, people tend to overeat. Then they collapse snoring afterwards. But telling someone he can't have more seems miserly. I'm not saying it can't be done, but be careful of overstuffing your guest or overstuffing yourself. Could you cut one of the first 4 courses or switch one to something less rich? I have no trouble with rich food from a health or lose-weight perspective. My objection is the way several courses of rich food start to be all the same thing on the palate. I'd make that hot appetizer asparagus and some other vegetables (red peppers and mushrooms?) in lemon and feta or just lemon and green herbs. My suggestion for the sorbet is canteloupe. As I mentioned before, rethink the white beans. Even a little gas is not appropriate for this evening. Sweet potatoes have the advantage of being something that appreciates long slow cooking as do the lamb shanks. They'll go well with the chard color and flavor-wise. I like the fennel salad though both are good. Serve fresh strawberries and grapes with the chocolate cake. The tart flavors will go well and make the dessert less densely rich. You didn't mention wine. I have no idea what to suggest, but I think there should be one. Maybe champagne. That goes with everything. --Lia |
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Julia Altshuler > wrote in message news:<td4Wb.270340$xy6.1380107@attbi_s02>...
> The carrot soup, not the roasted garlic. Garlic is hard on the breath > which is not romantic. Roasted garlic isn't as bad as raw, but garlic > still isn't associated with romance. Good point! > Portion control will be a challenge. When presented with that much rich > food, people tend to overeat. Then they collapse snoring afterwards. > But telling someone he can't have more seems miserly. I'm not saying it > can't be done, but be careful of overstuffing your guest or overstuffing > yourself. Could you cut one of the first 4 courses or switch one to > something less rich? I have no trouble with rich food from a health or > lose-weight perspective. My objection is the way several courses of > rich food start to be all the same thing on the palate. I'd make that > hot appetizer asparagus and some other vegetables (red peppers and > mushrooms?) in lemon and feta or just lemon and green herbs. Yeah, I was thinking about cuttion out the pasta course altogether since pasta is so filling, and substituting a whole steamed artichoke with a nice dipping sauce for the asparagus. What do you think? > My suggestion for the sorbet is canteloupe. Mmmmm, good idea! > As I mentioned before, rethink the white beans. Even a little gas is > not appropriate for this evening. Sweet potatoes have the advantage of > being something that appreciates long slow cooking as do the lamb > shanks. They'll go well with the chard color and flavor-wise. Again, a good point. He looooves sweet potatoes, so that would work well. > I like the fennel salad though both are good. > > Serve fresh strawberries and grapes with the chocolate cake. The tart > flavors will go well and make the dessert less densely rich. Yeah...as I mentioned previously, I might end up serving strawberries with balsamic vinegar instead of the cake altogether. I was planning on using a balsamic vinaigrette with the salad, so if I do those strawberries, I might use red wine or sherry vinegar instead. > You didn't mention wine. I have no idea what to suggest, but I think > there should be one. Maybe champagne. That goes with everything. Hahaha...I informed my boyfriend that his v-day present to me is some red wine to go with dinner ![]() All great suggestions, thank you so much! |
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Erica wrote:
> Yeah, I was thinking about cuttion out the pasta course altogether > since pasta is so filling, and substituting a whole steamed artichoke > with a nice dipping sauce for the asparagus. What do you think? That sounds good, and it reminds me of something else altogether. There are people for whom a meal isn't a meal unless there is bread on the table. If that's the case, definitely have dinner rolls instead of the pasta course. These sorts of questions are my favorite threads. Thanks for something interesting. --Lia |
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Erica > wrote:
> For Valentines day, I'm thinking about preparing a decadent > seven-course meal as my present to my boyfriend. This is just a > tentative menu, but I was hoping for some feedback. Here goes: > Cold appetizer course: Gravlax over cucumber salad > Soup course: Carrot soup or roast garlic soup > Hot appetizer course: Proscuitto-wrapped asparagus with fontina cheese > sauce > Pasta course: Cappellini with braised artichoke sauce > Intermezzo: Sorbet (not sure what kind) > Main course: Braised lamb shanks with white beans, swiss chard, and > Herbes de Provence > Salad course: Fennel, orange, and red onion salad OR mixed baby greens > with raspberries > Dessert: Flourless chocolate cake with almonds and espresso Sounds very appetising and thoughtful. You might want to replace your cake for dessert with something lighter. You two might not have enough room for a heavy dessert after all those courses. Maybe omit the intermeezo and use that for dessert. |
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> Erica > wrote:
> > For Valentines day, I'm thinking about preparing a decadent > > seven-course meal as my present to my boyfriend. This is just a > > tentative menu, but I was hoping for some feedback. Here goes: > > > Cold appetizer course: Gravlax over cucumber salad > > Soup course: Carrot soup or roast garlic soup > > Hot appetizer course: Proscuitto-wrapped asparagus with fontina cheese > > sauce > > Pasta course: Cappellini with braised artichoke sauce > > Intermezzo: Sorbet (not sure what kind) > > Main course: Braised lamb shanks with white beans, swiss chard, and > > Herbes de Provence > > Salad course: Fennel, orange, and red onion salad OR mixed baby greens > > with raspberries > > Dessert: Flourless chocolate cake with almonds and espresso 86 the garlic soup, beans, red onions, and anything else that might give gas, burps, or bad breath. You could have a whole lotta suggestive fun with that asparagus! *L* If you change the beans to sweet potato, will that be too similar with the carrot soup? -- Catbird "Oh-oh, her schizo is about to phrenia" - Bob Hope |
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"Catbird" > wrote in message >...
> 86 the garlic soup, beans, red onions, and anything else that might give > gas, burps, or bad breath. You could have a whole lotta suggestive fun with > that asparagus! *L* If you change the beans to sweet potato, will that be > too similar with the carrot soup? If I change the beans to sweet potato, I am thinking about making a tomato soup with basil guacamole. I'm also considering keeping the beans and making a curried butternut squash soup with cilantro yogurt (found that recipe in Cook's Illustrated). So we will see... ![]() --Erica |
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OK, based on feedback, I have revised the menu:
Cold appetizer: Gravlax over cucumber salad Soup: Caramelized tomato soup with basil guacamole Hot appetizer: Steamed globe artichoke with hollandaise sauce Intermezzo: Cantelope sorbet (probably have a little slice of prosciutto on the side) Main course: Braised lamb shanks with swiss chard, Herbes de Provence, and sweet potatoes Salad: Fennel and orange salad Dessert: Strawberries with balsamic vinegar I agree with everyone's suggestion to make the dinner a little less rich. So, I nixed out the pasta course, replaced the cake with fresh fruit, and subsituted the asparagus with a steamed artichoke. I will make the hollandaise dipping sauce myself since it's so cheap, and I can't resist a buttery sauce with an artichoke. Also, I remember reading in "On Food and Cooking" that artichokes temporarily alter the tastebuds to make food taste sweeter, so it could be delicious before a sorbet. I love the idea of cantelope sorbet as a palette cleanser, and I feel that it begs for a slice of prosciutto to be served alongside. I decided to go with the sweet potatoes with the lamb, and since that may be a bit too similar to carrots, I wanted to change the soup. I definetly want a pureed soup, as a chunky one is more of a meal in itself. He doesn't like parsnips or cauliflower, potato seemed too plain, butternut squash is too similar to sweet potatoes, asparagus is expensive, and broccoli-cheese is too rich. Obviously there are many other veggies that can go into a pureed soup, but you get the idea. I once made Daniel Bolud's recipe for chilled tomato soup with basil guacamole. However, I like hot soup much more, and I recently saw a great recipe for tomato soup that involves roasting seeded canned tomatoes with a sprinkle of brown sugar. I'm going to make that and serve with a timbale of basil guacamole (just avocado, shallots, lemon, and basil) in the center. If I can find those little fingerling potatoes, I might use them in lieu of sweet potatoes, but I still like this soup idea. I'm going to make a big batch so that I can have some for lunch the next day with grilled brie sandwiches ![]() I like the fennel salad for its simplicity and elegance, and I am still debating as to whether or not shaved red onion is a good idea, breath-wise. Normally I would make a balsamic vinaigrette, but since the strawberries come next it could be redundant. I'll probably pick some of the wild grapefruits in my backyard and make a vinaigrette out of those. Thanks for all of your suggestions! --Erica (Erica) wrote in message . com>... > For Valentines day, I'm thinking about preparing a decadent > seven-course meal as my present to my boyfriend. This is just a > tentative menu, but I was hoping for some feedback. Here goes: > > Cold appetizer course: Gravlax over cucumber salad > Soup course: Carrot soup or roast garlic soup > Hot appetizer course: Proscuitto-wrapped asparagus with fontina cheese > sauce > Pasta course: Cappellini with braised artichoke sauce > Intermezzo: Sorbet (not sure what kind) > Main course: Braised lamb shanks with white beans, swiss chard, and > Herbes de Provence > Salad course: Fennel, orange, and red onion salad OR mixed baby greens > with raspberries > Dessert: Flourless chocolate cake with almonds and espresso > > Whaddaya think? |
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(Erica) wrote: > For Valentines day, I'm thinking about preparing a decadent > seven-course meal as my present to my boyfriend. This is just a > tentative menu, but I was hoping for some feedback. Here goes: [snipped a bunch of ideas that make my tummy rumble with pleasure] > Whaddaya think? Sounds wonderful. I just have one question: it doesn't seem like your domain (technodyke) is a place for women with boyfriends? If I'm being too personal, just tell me to go away and I will. -- Dan Abel Sonoma State University AIS |
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Hahaha...that is my spam address.
--Erica "Dan Abel" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > (Erica) wrote: > > > For Valentines day, I'm thinking about preparing a decadent > > seven-course meal as my present to my boyfriend. This is just a > > tentative menu, but I was hoping for some feedback. Here goes: > > [snipped a bunch of ideas that make my tummy rumble with pleasure] > > > > > Whaddaya think? > > > Sounds wonderful. I just have one question: it doesn't seem like your > domain (technodyke) is a place for women with boyfriends? > > If I'm being too personal, just tell me to go away and I will. > > -- > Dan Abel > Sonoma State University > AIS > |
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:53:06 GMT, "Erica" >
wrote: >Hahaha...that is my spam address. > >--Erica > gosh. what would a technodyke do with spam? your curious pal, blake >"Dan Abel" > wrote in message ... >> In article >, >> (Erica) wrote: >> >> > For Valentines day, I'm thinking about preparing a decadent >> > seven-course meal as my present to my boyfriend. This is just a >> > tentative menu, but I was hoping for some feedback. Here goes: >> >> [snipped a bunch of ideas that make my tummy rumble with pleasure] >> >> >> >> > Whaddaya think? >> >> >> Sounds wonderful. I just have one question: it doesn't seem like your >> domain (technodyke) is a place for women with boyfriends? >> >> If I'm being too personal, just tell me to go away and I will. >> >> -- >> Dan Abel >> Sonoma State University >> AIS >> > |
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