> wrote in message
...
> On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 10:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2019-03-25 11:02 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > I am
>> > currently working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on some
>> > paperwork but I do know my total income for the year and that total
>> > puts
>> > me below the poverty level for this area. Poverty level being
>> > $72,000.00
>> > per year
>>
>>
>> I'm calling bullshit on that one. The poverty threhold for Washington
>> is $24,339 for a family of four. The median household income is 86,167.
>>
> I'm with you, it IS bullshit as I checked the Federal Poverty Guide.
> Where
> she comes up with these numbers, I don't want to know.

I got that figure from the news. I posted links. Here's one of them:

https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income...ngton/seattle/

On 2019-03-25 11:28 p.m., wrote:
> On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 10:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2019-03-25 11:02 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I am
>>> currently working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on some
>>> paperwork but I do know my total income for the year and that total puts
>>> me below the poverty level for this area. Poverty level being $72,000.00
>>> per year
>>
>>
>> I'm calling bullshit on that one. The poverty threhold for Washington
>> is $24,339 for a family of four. The median household income is 86,167.
>>
> I'm with you, it IS bullshit as I checked the Federal Poverty Guide. Where
> she comes up with these numbers, I don't want to know.
>

Only in the land of Bove is the poverty line 80% of the median. I might
have been prepared to pass it off as a typo, but 8 is a long way from
the 2 key on either numeric pad.

On 2019-03-26 1:42 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2019-03-25 11:02 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> I think it's cute that after 2 years you still refer to him as "your
>>>> gardener" when that's the least of what he is. But if it makes you
>>>> feel all high society, then knock yourself out.
>>>
>>> It is true that he's also my handyman and a friend. But he is the one
>>> that takes care of my gardening and that is what I first hired him
>>> for. So I refer to him as such. I am certainly not high society. I am
>>> currently working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on some
>>> paperwork but I do know my total income for the year and that total
>>> puts me below the poverty level for this area. Poverty level being
>>> $72,000.00 per year
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm calling bullshit on that one.Â* The poverty threhold for Washington
>> is $24,339 for a family of four. The median household income is 86,167.
>
> I'll get you a link.
>
> https://www.king5.com/article/news/l.../281-434107397
>
>
> And another:
>
> https://q13fox.com/2017/04/26/72000-...homish-county/
>
>
> So... Low income. Is that the same as poverty? Don't know.


NO. It is not the same as poverty.

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >> Are there any Banquet product left out there worth trying? I had a
> >> $.25 pot pie last week (on clearance, half prce). Just as horrible
> >> and cheap as I remember, just only half the size.
> >
> > Nonsense. Fix them up a bit. Use the turkey ones (more flavor)
> >
> > In a deep bowl, put 1/2 cup corn (or your favorite veg), 1/3 cup
> > water, then the turkey pot pie. Put lid on bowl and microwave
> > (700 watts) for 3:33. Chop and stir all then microwave for
> > another 2:22 or until very hot. Serve with buttered bread or
> > rolls. yum
> >
> > Decent meal in a pinch. Quit bitching about cheap and easy meals.
> > This one should make you happy enough.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

> I am very sure I would not these prepared ANY way. Let alone raw
> dough in the microwave.

Well excuse me pal but you bought one so I assume you heated and
ate it. My way has the dough cooked, not raw, idiot. Turns it
into very thin dumplings or such.

> And why in the **** would I be adding 1/3cup water to microwaved pot
> pie that's already a watery, tasteless mess?

Because you are a clueless 'know it all' who can't think beyond
your own lack of imagination in your own widdle SouthWestern part
of the country. Maybe I should have added several hot peppers to
what I said. That probably would have soothed your ego a bit.

I've always assumed you were bullied as a kid. This explains your
attitude to everyone else these days. Poor wittle Stevie coming
home every day from school crying.

Most of your worldy knowledge comes from Google. We all know the
internet can't be wrong.
Yoose are even smarter than Popeye and Bruce.

I taught you to grill hotdogs over a gas stove flame years ago.
If you insist on buying Banquet pot pies, try what I just told
you. Remember...only the Turkey ones are worth trying.

In article >, says...
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> news
> > On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 18:31:00 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On 3/23/2019 12:35 PM, Gary wrote:
> >>>> Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Salisbury Steak used to be good. It's horrid now.
> >>>>
> >>>> Everything is horrid to you, Julie.
> >>>>
> >>> Not if it's brown rice and beans!
> >>
> >> My gardener is the one who eats the brown rice.
> >
> > I think it's cute that after 2 years you still refer to him as "your
> > gardener" when that's the least of what he is. But if it makes you
> > feel all high society, then knock yourself out.
>
> It is true that he's also my handyman and a friend. But he is the one that
> takes care of my gardening and that is what I first hired him for. So I
> refer to him as such. I am certainly not high society. I am currently
> working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on some paperwork but I
> do know my total income for the year and that total puts me below the
> poverty level for this area. Poverty level being $72,000.00 per year.

or a family of four, you donkey. You are a single person .


Janet UK

In article >, says...
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2019-03-25 11:02 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> >>> I think it's cute that after 2 years you still refer to him as "your
> >>> gardener" when that's the least of what he is. But if it makes you
> >>> feel all high society, then knock yourself out.
> >>
> >> It is true that he's also my handyman and a friend. But he is the one
> >> that takes care of my gardening and that is what I first hired him for.
> >> So I refer to him as such. I am certainly not high society. I am
> >> currently working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on some
> >> paperwork but I do know my total income for the year and that total puts
> >> me below the poverty level for this area. Poverty level being $72,000.00
> >> per year
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm calling bullshit on that one. The poverty threhold for Washington is
> > $24,339 for a family of four. The median household income is 86,167.
>
> I'll get you a link.
>
> https://www.king5.com/article/news/l.../281-434107397


which part of ** FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR do you fail to understand?

Janet UK

On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 20:02:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>news
>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 18:31:00 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 3/23/2019 12:35 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Salisbury Steak used to be good. It's horrid now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything is horrid to you, Julie.
>>>>>
>>>> Not if it's brown rice and beans!
>>>
>>> My gardener is the one who eats the brown rice.
>>
>> I think it's cute that after 2 years you still refer to him as "your
>> gardener" when that's the least of what he is. But if it makes you
>> feel all high society, then knock yourself out.
>
>It is true that he's also my handyman and a friend. But he is the one that
>takes care of my gardening and that is what I first hired him for. So I
>refer to him as such. I am certainly not high society. I am currently
>working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on some paperwork but I
>do know my total income for the year and that total puts me below the
>poverty level for this area. Poverty level being $72,000.00 per year. That
>in and of itself is a joke. In order to qualify for any sort of assistance
>here, you'd have to make less than $1,500.00 per month. If that's all you
>make here, you'll be homeless unless you can find some sort of shared living
>situation. Gee... Maybe Kuthe could come here and... Oh, perish the thought!

I think you better get something like Turbo Tax so you don't really
mess yourself up with the tax man. The program will guide you through
everything. If you use Turbo Tax the program will get you every penny
you can have and will search out every single deduction, line by line
for you. I think Turbo Tax for your situation is $39 or so at Costco.
Just read the back of the box to see which level of the program
applies to you. The program will even submit your taxes to federal
and state via Internet and let you know that your taxes were received.
I' be real interested to know where you came up with a figure of $72K
for poverty level for taxes. Those folks working at McDonalds in
Washington state must make a heck of a good salary. Poverty level for
tax purposes is probably less than $15K/year.
Janet US

On 3/26/2019 9:40 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-03-26 1:42 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 2019-03-25 11:02 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>> I think it's cute that after 2 years you still refer to him as "your
>>>>> gardener" when that's the least of what he is. But if it makes you
>>>>> feel all high society, then knock yourself out.
>>>>
>>>> It is true that he's also my handyman and a friend. But he is the
>>>> one that takes care of my gardening and that is what I first hired
>>>> him for. So I refer to him as such. I am certainly not high society.
>>>> I am currently working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on
>>>> some paperwork but I do know my total income for the year and that
>>>> total puts me below the poverty level for this area. Poverty level
>>>> being $72,000.00 per year
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm calling bullshit on that one.Â* The poverty threhold for
>>> Washington is $24,339 for a family of four. The median household
>>> income is 86,167.
>>
>> I'll get you a link.
>>
>> https://www.king5.com/article/news/l.../281-434107397
>>
>>
>> And another:
>>
>> https://q13fox.com/2017/04/26/72000-...homish-county/
>>
>>
>> So... Low income. Is that the same as poverty? Don't know.
>
>
> NO. It is not the same as poverty.

Poverty is definitely not $72,000 a year. Poverty is worrying
constantly about paying for a roof over your head, food, a way to cook
it. It definitely doesn't involve having hired help. LOL

Jill

On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 8:34:57 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2019-03-25 11:28 p.m., wrote:
>
> > On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 10:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm calling bullshit on that one. The poverty threhold for Washington
> >> is $24,339 for a family of four. The median household income is 86,167.
> >>
> > I'm with you, it IS bullshit as I checked the Federal Poverty Guide. Where
> > she comes up with these numbers, I don't want to know.
> >
>
> Only in the land of Bove is the poverty line 80% of the median. I might
> have been prepared to pass it off as a typo, but 8 is a long way from
> the 2 key on either numeric pad.
>
Now that she's once AGAIN been caught in a lie and called out for it does she
back peddle and state "I got that figure from the news. I posted links.
Here's one of them: https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income...ngton/seattle/ "

Dunce can't even read although she claims she can read a book in 2 hours.
No where in that article does it state 'poverty level' incomes; pathological
liar and always will. In 6 months she'll state she never posted that link.

On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 12:13:37 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 20:02:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >I am currently
> >working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on some paperwork but I
> >do know my total income for the year and that total puts me below the
> >poverty level for this area. Poverty level being $72,000.00 per year.
>
Rest of her bullshit post was snipped. No need to repeat the lies.
>
> I think you better get something like Turbo Tax so you don't really
> mess yourself up with the tax man. The program will guide you through
> everything. If you use Turbo Tax the program will get you every penny
> you can have and will search out every single deduction, line by line
> for you. I think Turbo Tax for your situation is $39 or so at Costco.
> Just read the back of the box to see which level of the program
> applies to you. The program will even submit your taxes to federal
> and state via Internet and let you know that your taxes were received.
> I' be real interested to know where you came up with a figure of $72K
> for poverty level for taxes. Those folks working at McDonalds in
> Washington state must make a heck of a good salary. Poverty level for
> tax purposes is probably less than $15K/year.
> Janet US
>
She can do her taxes online through Turbo Tax for free if she can read simple
instructions. It will walk her through, line by line, and ask her to input
her figures. It will tell her if she qualifies or not depending on the in-
formation she enters. If she's not comfortable typing in all the addresses
and numbers from her different forms then T.T. will import all that info
for her, for a fee, of course.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/26/2019 9:40 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-03-26 1:42 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2019-03-25 11:02 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>> I think it's cute that after 2 years you still refer to him as "your
>>>>>> gardener" when that's the least of what he is. But if it makes you
>>>>>> feel all high society, then knock yourself out.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is true that he's also my handyman and a friend. But he is the one
>>>>> that takes care of my gardening and that is what I first hired him
>>>>> for. So I refer to him as such. I am certainly not high society. I am
>>>>> currently working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on some
>>>>> paperwork but I do know my total income for the year and that total
>>>>> puts me below the poverty level for this area. Poverty level being
>>>>> $72,000.00 per year
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm calling bullshit on that one. The poverty threhold for Washington
>>>> is $24,339 for a family of four. The median household income is 86,167.
>>>
>>> I'll get you a link.
>>>
>>> https://www.king5.com/article/news/l.../281-434107397
>>>
>>> And another:
>>>
>>> https://q13fox.com/2017/04/26/72000-...homish-county/
>>>
>>> So... Low income. Is that the same as poverty? Don't know.
>>
>>
>> NO. It is not the same as poverty.
>
> Poverty is definitely not $72,000 a year. Poverty is worrying constantly
> about paying for a roof over your head, food, a way to cook it. It
> definitely doesn't involve having hired help. LOL

Who here has hired help?

> wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 8:34:57 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2019-03-25 11:28 p.m., wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 10:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm calling bullshit on that one. The poverty threhold for Washington
>> >> is $24,339 for a family of four. The median household income is
>> >> 86,167.
>> >>
>> > I'm with you, it IS bullshit as I checked the Federal Poverty Guide.
>> > Where
>> > she comes up with these numbers, I don't want to know.
>> >
>>
>> Only in the land of Bove is the poverty line 80% of the median. I might
>> have been prepared to pass it off as a typo, but 8 is a long way from
>> the 2 key on either numeric pad.
>>
> Now that she's once AGAIN been caught in a lie and called out for it does
> she
> back peddle and state "I got that figure from the news. I posted links.
> Here's one of them:
> https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income...ngton/seattle/ "
>
> Dunce can't even read although she claims she can read a book in 2 hours.
> No where in that article does it state 'poverty level' incomes;
> pathological
> liar and always will. In 6 months she'll state she never posted that
> link.

It does say low income. There has been much debate on that here. A family of
four making $72,000.00 a year could not live here without some kind of
assistance. Things are just too expensive. And yet? They do not qualify for
assistance.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 20:02:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 18:31:00 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 3/23/2019 12:35 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Salisbury Steak used to be good. It's horrid now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything is horrid to you, Julie.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Not if it's brown rice and beans!
>>>>
>>>> My gardener is the one who eats the brown rice.
>>>
>>> I think it's cute that after 2 years you still refer to him as "your
>>> gardener" when that's the least of what he is. But if it makes you
>>> feel all high society, then knock yourself out.
>>
>>It is true that he's also my handyman and a friend. But he is the one that
>>takes care of my gardening and that is what I first hired him for. So I
>>refer to him as such. I am certainly not high society. I am currently
>>working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on some paperwork but I
>>do know my total income for the year and that total puts me below the
>>poverty level for this area. Poverty level being $72,000.00 per year. That
>>in and of itself is a joke. In order to qualify for any sort of assistance
>>here, you'd have to make less than $1,500.00 per month. If that's all you
>>make here, you'll be homeless unless you can find some sort of shared
>>living
>>situation. Gee... Maybe Kuthe could come here and... Oh, perish the
>>thought!
>
> I think you better get something like Turbo Tax so you don't really
> mess yourself up with the tax man. The program will guide you through
> everything. If you use Turbo Tax the program will get you every penny
> you can have and will search out every single deduction, line by line
> for you. I think Turbo Tax for your situation is $39 or so at Costco.
> Just read the back of the box to see which level of the program
> applies to you. The program will even submit your taxes to federal
> and state via Internet and let you know that your taxes were received.
> I' be real interested to know where you came up with a figure of $72K
> for poverty level for taxes. Those folks working at McDonalds in
> Washington state must make a heck of a good salary. Poverty level for
> tax purposes is probably less than $15K/year.
> Janet US

Uh... I've been using Turbo Tax for years. The online version!

The figure I quoted was on the news. It was hotly debated. Apparently they
did not say poverty but low income. Funny thing is, a lot of people have to
live on amounts less than that and they do not qualify for any assistance.
We just band together and try to help each other out when we can.

I believe the minimum wage here is $21 for Seattle. I could be wrong. I
don't work and I don't live in Seattle. It is a high wage though.

> wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 12:13:37 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 20:02:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >I am currently
>> >working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on some paperwork but
>> >I
>> >do know my total income for the year and that total puts me below the
>> >poverty level for this area. Poverty level being $72,000.00 per year.
>>
> Rest of her bullshit post was snipped. No need to repeat the lies.
>>
>> I think you better get something like Turbo Tax so you don't really
>> mess yourself up with the tax man. The program will guide you through
>> everything. If you use Turbo Tax the program will get you every penny
>> you can have and will search out every single deduction, line by line
>> for you. I think Turbo Tax for your situation is $39 or so at Costco.
>> Just read the back of the box to see which level of the program
>> applies to you. The program will even submit your taxes to federal
>> and state via Internet and let you know that your taxes were received.
>> I' be real interested to know where you came up with a figure of $72K
>> for poverty level for taxes. Those folks working at McDonalds in
>> Washington state must make a heck of a good salary. Poverty level for
>> tax purposes is probably less than $15K/year.
>> Janet US
>>
> She can do her taxes online through Turbo Tax for free if she can read
> simple
> instructions. It will walk her through, line by line, and ask her to
> input
> her figures. It will tell her if she qualifies or not depending on the
> in-
> formation she enters. If she's not comfortable typing in all the
> addresses
> and numbers from her different forms then T.T. will import all that info
> for her, for a fee, of course.

Oh FOAD. Like I said... Been using Turbo Tax for years.

On 2019-03-26 7:13 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 8:34:57 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2019-03-25 11:28 p.m., wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 10:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm calling bullshit on that one.Â* The poverty threhold for
>>> Washington
>>> >> isÂ* $24,339 for a family of four. The median household income is
>>> >> 86,167.
>>> >>
>>> > I'm with you, it IS bullshit as I checked the Federal Poverty
>>> Guide. > Where
>>> > she comes up with these numbers, I don't want to know.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Only in the land of Bove is the poverty line 80% of the median. I might
>>> have been prepared to pass it off as a typo, but 8 is a long way from
>>> the 2 key on either numeric pad.
>>>
>> Now that she's once AGAIN been caught in a lie and called out for it
>> does she
>> back peddle and state "I got that figure from the news. I posted links.
>> Here's one of them:
>> https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income...ngton/seattle/ "
>>
>> Dunce can't even read although she claims she can read a book in 2 hours.
>> No where in that article does it state 'poverty level' incomes;
>> pathological
>> liar and always will.Â* In 6 months she'll state she never posted that
>> link.
>
> It does say low income. There has been much debate on that here. A
> family of four making $72,000.00 a year could not live here without some
> kind of assistance. Things are just too expensive. And yet? They do not
> qualify for assistance.


They probably don't qualify for assistance because with a family income
of $72,000 they are taking in almost three times the poverty line, which
is $24,399, not $72,000.

On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:09:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 3/26/2019 9:40 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2019-03-26 1:42 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 2019-03-25 11:02 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> I think it's cute that after 2 years you still refer to him as "your
>>>>>>> gardener" when that's the least of what he is. But if it makes you
>>>>>>> feel all high society, then knock yourself out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is true that he's also my handyman and a friend. But he is the one
>>>>>> that takes care of my gardening and that is what I first hired him
>>>>>> for. So I refer to him as such. I am certainly not high society. I am
>>>>>> currently working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on some
>>>>>> paperwork but I do know my total income for the year and that total
>>>>>> puts me below the poverty level for this area. Poverty level being
>>>>>> $72,000.00 per year
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm calling bullshit on that one. The poverty threhold for Washington
>>>>> is $24,339 for a family of four. The median household income is 86,167.
>>>>
>>>> I'll get you a link.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.king5.com/article/news/l.../281-434107397
>>>>
>>>> And another:
>>>>
>>>> https://q13fox.com/2017/04/26/72000-...homish-county/
>>>>
>>>> So... Low income. Is that the same as poverty? Don't know.
>>>
>>>
>>> NO. It is not the same as poverty.
>>
>> Poverty is definitely not $72,000 a year. Poverty is worrying constantly
>> about paying for a roof over your head, food, a way to cook it. It
>> definitely doesn't involve having hired help. LOL
>
>Who here has hired help?

Do you not have a gardener?

Doris

On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 6:19:21 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Oh FOAD. Like I said... Been using Turbo Tax for years.
>
Be nice to me, I save your life today. I killed a shit eating dog.

On 3/26/2019 7:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>

>>>>
>>>> And another:
>>>>
>>>> https://q13fox.com/2017/04/26/72000-...homish-county/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So... Low income. Is that the same as poverty? Don't know.
>>>
>>>
>>> NO. It is not the same as poverty.
>>
>> Poverty is definitely not $72,000 a year.Â* Poverty is worrying
>> constantly about paying for a roof over your head, food, a way to cook
>> it.Â* It definitely doesn't involve having hired help. LOL
>
> Who here has hired help?

Full or part time? I have a cleaning lady.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:09:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 3/26/2019 9:40 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2019-03-26 1:42 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 2019-03-25 11:02 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> I think it's cute that after 2 years you still refer to him as
>>>>>>>> "your
>>>>>>>> gardener" when that's the least of what he is. But if it makes you
>>>>>>>> feel all high society, then knock yourself out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is true that he's also my handyman and a friend. But he is the
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> that takes care of my gardening and that is what I first hired him
>>>>>>> for. So I refer to him as such. I am certainly not high society. I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> currently working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on some
>>>>>>> paperwork but I do know my total income for the year and that total
>>>>>>> puts me below the poverty level for this area. Poverty level being
>>>>>>> $72,000.00 per year
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm calling bullshit on that one. The poverty threhold for Washington
>>>>>> is $24,339 for a family of four. The median household income is
>>>>>> 86,167.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll get you a link.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.king5.com/article/news/l.../281-434107397
>>>>>
>>>>> And another:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://q13fox.com/2017/04/26/72000-...homish-county/
>>>>>
>>>>> So... Low income. Is that the same as poverty? Don't know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NO. It is not the same as poverty.
>>>
>>> Poverty is definitely not $72,000 a year. Poverty is worrying
>>> constantly
>>> about paying for a roof over your head, food, a way to cook it. It
>>> definitely doesn't involve having hired help. LOL
>>
>>Who here has hired help?
>
> Do you not have a gardener?

Yes. I do. But he's not hired help. Unless you count the part about how I
help him and he helps me. I did initially hire him to do some specific
things. But now he lives here. I cook for him. That in exchange for what he
does in the yard and around the house.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2019-03-26 7:13 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 8:34:57 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2019-03-25 11:28 p.m., wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 10:18:40 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'm calling bullshit on that one. The poverty threhold for
>>>> Washington
>>>> >> is $24,339 for a family of four. The median household income is
>>>> >> 86,167.
>>>> >>
>>>> > I'm with you, it IS bullshit as I checked the Federal Poverty
>>>> Guide. > Where
>>>> > she comes up with these numbers, I don't want to know.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Only in the land of Bove is the poverty line 80% of the median. I might
>>>> have been prepared to pass it off as a typo, but 8 is a long way from
>>>> the 2 key on either numeric pad.
>>>>
>>> Now that she's once AGAIN been caught in a lie and called out for it
>>> does she
>>> back peddle and state "I got that figure from the news. I posted links.
>>> Here's one of them:
>>> https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income...ngton/seattle/ "
>>>
>>> Dunce can't even read although she claims she can read a book in 2
>>> hours.
>>> No where in that article does it state 'poverty level' incomes;
>>> pathological
>>> liar and always will. In 6 months she'll state she never posted that
>>> link.
>>
>> It does say low income. There has been much debate on that here. A family
>> of four making $72,000.00 a year could not live here without some kind of
>> assistance. Things are just too expensive. And yet? They do not qualify
>> for assistance.
>
>
> They probably don't qualify for assistance because with a family income of
> $72,000 they are taking in almost three times the poverty line, which is
> $24,399, not $72,000.

If a person only made $25,000 a year here, they'd have to live on the
street, in their car or have someone put them up.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/26/2019 9:40 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-03-26 1:42 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2019-03-25 11:02 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>> I think it's cute that after 2 years you still refer to him as "your
>>>>>> gardener" when that's the least of what he is. But if it makes you
>>>>>> feel all high society, then knock yourself out.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is true that he's also my handyman and a friend. But he is the one
>>>>> that takes care of my gardening and that is what I first hired him
>>>>> for. So I refer to him as such. I am certainly not high society. I am
>>>>> currently working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm waiting on some
>>>>> paperwork but I do know my total income for the year and that total
>>>>> puts me below the poverty level for this area. Poverty level being
>>>>> $72,000.00 per year
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm calling bullshit on that one. The poverty threhold for Washington
>>>> is $24,339 for a family of four. The median household income is 86,167.
>>>
>>> I'll get you a link.
>>>
>>> https://www.king5.com/article/news/l.../281-434107397
>>>
>>> And another:
>>>
>>> https://q13fox.com/2017/04/26/72000-...homish-county/
>>>
>>> So... Low income. Is that the same as poverty? Don't know.
>>
>>
>> NO. It is not the same as poverty.
>
> Poverty is definitely not $72,000 a year. Poverty is worrying constantly
> about paying for a roof over your head, food, a way to cook it. It
> definitely doesn't involve having hired help. LOL

Who here has hired help?

==

I had a cleaner all the years I was working, but not now.

On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 7:10:09 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:

> Who here has hired help?

Until my husband retired, I did. Someone came in every other week to
clean my house.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2019-03-27 2:36 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message

>> They probably don't qualify for assistance because with a family
>> income of $72,000 they are taking in almost three times the poverty
>> line, which is $24,399, not $72,000.
>
> If a person only made $25,000 a year here, they'd have to live on the
> street, in their car or have someone put them up.


Yes. That is what poverty is. Never the less, you posted that the
poverty line where you live is $72,000, which is almost three times
higher than the official amount, and the links posted to support that
claim even though they did not support it at all.

On 3/26/2019 7:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 3/26/2019 9:40 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2019-03-26 1:42 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 2019-03-25 11:02 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> I think it's cute that after 2 years you still refer to him as "your
>>>>>>> gardener" when that's the least of what he is. But if it makes you
>>>>>>> feel all high society, then knock yourself out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is true that he's also my handyman and a friend. But he is the
>>>>>> one that takes care of my gardening and that is what I first hired
>>>>>> him for. So I refer to him as such. I am certainly not high
>>>>>> society. I am currently working on my taxes. Can't file yet as I'm
>>>>>> waiting on some paperwork but I do know my total income for the
>>>>>> year and that total puts me below the poverty level for this area.
>>>>>> Poverty level being $72,000.00 per year
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm calling bullshit on that one. The poverty threhold for
>>>>> Washington is $24,339 for a family of four. The median household
>>>>> income is 86,167.
>>>>
>>>> I'll get you a link.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.king5.com/article/news/l.../281-434107397
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And another:
>>>>
>>>> https://q13fox.com/2017/04/26/72000-...homish-county/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So... Low income. Is that the same as poverty? Don't know.
>>>
>>>
>>> NO. It is not the same as poverty.
>>
>> Poverty is definitely not $72,000 a year.Â* Poverty is worrying
>> constantly about paying for a roof over your head, food, a way to cook
>> it.Â* It definitely doesn't involve having hired help. LOL
>
> Who here has hired help?

You do, or rather, you *did*. Now he's a "friend" who lives with you;
apparently he's doing chores in exchange for room & board.

I pay someone to do yard work as needed. A few months ago I paid him to
cut rather large limbs off the oak tree out front to keep them from
damaging the roof. I'll soon be paying him to clean the gutters. He's
hired help.

Jill

On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 22:39:48 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 3/26/2019 7:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>>>>>
>>>>> And another:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://q13fox.com/2017/04/26/72000-...homish-county/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So... Low income. Is that the same as poverty? Don't know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NO. It is not the same as poverty.
>>>
>>> Poverty is definitely not $72,000 a year.* Poverty is worrying
>>> constantly about paying for a roof over your head, food, a way to cook
>>> it.* It definitely doesn't involve having hired help. LOL
>>
>> Who here has hired help?
>
>Full or part time? I have a cleaning lady.

same here.

Doris