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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 09:25:23 -0500, songbird >
wrote: >cshenk wrote: >> Cindy Hamilton wrote: >... >>> Campbell's tomato soup is horribly sweet. So's the vegetarian >>> vegetable. >> >> Umm, might you be interpreting lack of salt as 'sweet' there? Neither >> has sugar added at all. > > the easiest tomato soup from almost scratch is >a tiny can of tomato paste (which if you get a >decent brand is tomato only). then you can add >whatever spices and thickeners you want (or none >at all) and adjust the other liquids to taste. > > some people may taste the umami from tomatoes >as sweet too (not all people are alike in how >they taste/smell things). > > songbird For me the best tomato soup is to blend a 6 oz can of tomato paste with 2 1/2 cans of water, add a couple three drops of tobasco, a wee pinch of celery salt and pour into a tall glass filled with ice until half full, then top off with Crystal Palace vodka and add a celery stick for stirring... add wooster to taste. For me the only real tomato soup is the tomatoey broth from a pot of sweet & sour stuffed cabbage... sweet is some raisins, sour is the juice of one lemon, secret ingredient is a small can of V8. I've never tasted any canned tomato soup even worth doctoring. |
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On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 1:05:42 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 23:38:23 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > > > > >"Bruce" > wrote in message > .. . > >> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 18:29:20 -0500, S Viemeister > >> > wrote: > >> > >>>On 2/16/2019 4:23 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: > >>>> Bruce > wrote: > >>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:32:16 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote: > >>>>>> Umm, might you be interpreting lack of salt as 'sweet' there? Neither > >>>>>> has sugar added at all. > >>>>> Campbell's Soup, Tomato: > >>>>> "water, tomato puree (water, tomato paste), sugar, bleached enriched > >>>>> flour (wheat flour, niacin, ferrous sulfate, thiamine mononitrate, > >>>>> riboflavin, folic acid), wheat flour, contains less than 1% of: dried > >>>>> dairy blend (whey, calcium caseinate), salt, modified food starch, > >>>>> butter (milk), vegetable oil (corn, cottonseed, canola and/or > >>>>> soybean), citric acid, flavoring and ascorbic acid (added to help > >>>>> retain color)." > >>>>> Sugar is the 3rd ingredient. > >>>>> We should organise a Misinformation Contest. In the left corner > >>>>> CSHENK, in the right corner SHELDON. It's gonna be close! > >>>>> > >>>> You are misinformed. Campbell's tomato soup doesn't contain sugar, it > >>>> contains high fructose corn syrup, as the SECOND ingredient-right > >>>> behind > >>>> tomato purée. That the equivalent of 3 teaspoons of sugar per serving. > >>>> > >>>Perhaps not misinformed. > >>>Many businesses with international distribution, vary their formulas for > >>>different countries - like Coca Cola, with HFCS in the US, but cane > >>>sugar in Mexico. I know that there are differences in the UK and US > >>>versions of Campbell's, and that is likely the case for Australia, too.. > >> > >> I got it from he > >> > >> <http://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=product&id=FD74E9A6-18D4-11E1-8977-1231380C180E> > > > >Campbell's hasn't used sugar in this country for years. Only HFCS. > > In what way is that better or worse? It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain as to how BAD it was. Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. ===== |
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> > It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain > as to how BAD it was. > Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. > Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 08:08:00 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote: >On 2/17/2019 3:05 AM, Bruce wrote: > >>> Campbell's hasn't used sugar in this country for years. Only HFCS. >> >> In what way is that better or worse? >> >I believe it saves them money. Accountants, rather than chefs, make >decisions like that. Yes, such is the food industry. |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 04:18:47 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 7:26:56 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> > >> We're fortunate here. Those others miss out on the Monopotassium >> Phosphate. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopotassium_phosphate >> Monopotassium phosphate, MKP, (also potassium dihydrogenphosphate, KDP, >> or monobasic potassium phosphate), KH2PO4, is a soluble salt of >> potassium and the dihydrogen phosphate ion which is used as a >> fertilizer, a food additive and a fungicide. It is a source of >> phosphorus and potassium. It is also a buffering agent. When used in >> fertilizer mixtures with urea and ammonium phosphates, it minimizes >> escape of ammonia by keeping the acidity at a relatively low level. > >It probably tastes better than bicarbonate of soda, which many people >add to their homemade tomato-based recipes to control the acid level. I've never heard of that. |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 08:36:40 -0800 (PST), Roy >
wrote: >On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 1:05:42 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: >> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 23:38:23 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >"Bruce" > wrote in message >> .. . >> >> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 18:29:20 -0500, S Viemeister >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >>>On 2/16/2019 4:23 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >> >>>> Bruce > wrote: >> >>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:32:16 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote: >> >>>>>> Umm, might you be interpreting lack of salt as 'sweet' there? Neither >> >>>>>> has sugar added at all. >> >>>>> Campbell's Soup, Tomato: >> >>>>> "water, tomato puree (water, tomato paste), sugar, bleached enriched >> >>>>> flour (wheat flour, niacin, ferrous sulfate, thiamine mononitrate, >> >>>>> riboflavin, folic acid), wheat flour, contains less than 1% of: dried >> >>>>> dairy blend (whey, calcium caseinate), salt, modified food starch, >> >>>>> butter (milk), vegetable oil (corn, cottonseed, canola and/or >> >>>>> soybean), citric acid, flavoring and ascorbic acid (added to help >> >>>>> retain color)." >> >>>>> Sugar is the 3rd ingredient. >> >>>>> We should organise a Misinformation Contest. In the left corner >> >>>>> CSHENK, in the right corner SHELDON. It's gonna be close! >> >>>>> >> >>>> You are misinformed. Campbell's tomato soup doesn't contain sugar, it >> >>>> contains high fructose corn syrup, as the SECOND ingredient-right >> >>>> behind >> >>>> tomato purée. That the equivalent of 3 teaspoons of sugar per serving. >> >>>> >> >>>Perhaps not misinformed. >> >>>Many businesses with international distribution, vary their formulas for >> >>>different countries - like Coca Cola, with HFCS in the US, but cane >> >>>sugar in Mexico. I know that there are differences in the UK and US >> >>>versions of Campbell's, and that is likely the case for Australia, too. >> >> >> >> I got it from he >> >> >> >> <http://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=product&id=FD74E9A6-18D4-11E1-8977-1231380C180E> >> > >> >Campbell's hasn't used sugar in this country for years. Only HFCS. >> >> In what way is that better or worse? > >It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain >as to how BAD it was. >Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. >Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. >===== Well, who on earth wants sugar of any other sweetener added to a pizza. 6 year olds? |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:10:29 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>Roy wrote: >> >> It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain >> as to how BAD it was. >> Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. >> Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. > >Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in >moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just >mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. Because it has no place on a pizza. |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 03:14:48 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"cshenk" > wrote in message ... >> Dave Smith wrote: >> >>> On 2019-02-16 1:18 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>> > On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 10:44:36 AM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: >>> >>> > > Mostly the canned and jarred sauces (especially in the so called >>> > > more high scale brands) add a lot of sugar and/or salt to them. >>> > > Haven't noted a sweet soup yet but there probably are some. >>> > >>> > Campbell's tomato soup is horribly sweet. So's the vegetarian >>> > vegetable. >>> >>> >>> I wonder the sweetness comes from tomato paste. We reheated some >>> leftover pasta sauce the other day. We had just got our new fridge >>> and had cleaned out the freezer. There had been two half cans of >>> tomato paste in there and I added one of them to the sauce. It was >>> not just a richer tomato flavour to the sauce. It was much sweeter. >> >> Dunno but Bruce as usual is being an asshole. Campbells old fashioned >> vegetable: No added sugar (no hiddent HFCS). > >He said Vegetarian Vegetable. Not sure where he looked but the Canadian >version does contain sugar. Ours doesn't. I wasn't just talking about vegetarian. Besides, no sugar but HFCS. Same difference. |
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> Roy wrote: > > > > It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff > > and then complain as to how BAD it was. > > Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. > > Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. > > Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in > moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just > mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. As Charlotte is dieting to lose just a little for the Navy, we got indunated by well meaning but clueless people on Keto Diets. It's the new mellenial thing. The idea is you can eat 3,000 calories a day (ok, exagurating) but if none are carbs you ose weight. Sorry, it's not that easy. If you take in 3,000 calories a day and burn off only 2,000 then you will gain weight. If you take in 2,000 a day and burn off 3,000 a day, you will lose weight. 'Keto diets' work by reducing your total calories just like any other once you work the math out. They mostly remove the calories from carbs and leave the rest the same. |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:57:04 -0500, Gary > wrote:
wrote: >> >> Perhaps they've improved some but the last time I tried jarred pasta >> sauce has to be twenty years ago and it was awful. > >The computer you used 20 years ago sucked compared to today's >computers. Do you think food is any different? Computers are a recent invention. Food isn't. |
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Gary wrote:
> wrote: >> >> Perhaps they've improved some but the last time I tried jarred pasta >> sauce has to be twenty years ago and it was awful. > > The computer you used 20 years ago sucked compared to today's > computers. Do you think food is any different? yes, by a long ways. most people eat a lot more over-processed foods than they used to. his point is well supported by reading labels in the pasta sauce aisle in a normal grocery store. it's not just pasta sauce, but almost every item inside the aisles (around the edges you find dairy, meats, fruits and veggies). songbird |
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On 2/17/2019 12:10 PM, Gary wrote:
> Roy wrote: >> >> It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain >> as to how BAD it was. >> Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. >> Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. > > Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in > moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just > mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. > In a tomato sauce it is lost and makes no difference. HFCS is cheap so they use that over cane sugar. With ice cream and some soda, cane sugar is superior because of the flavor. Sugars are often added to make things taste sweeter and sell more product. It just does not belong in some places in any form. Many food processors are truly evil with ingredients not needed except to enhance profit. |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:42:40 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 2/17/2019 12:10 PM, Gary wrote: >> Roy wrote: >>> >>> It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain >>> as to how BAD it was. >>> Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. >>> Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. >> >> Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in >> moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just >> mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. >> >In a tomato sauce it is lost and makes no difference. HFCS is cheap so >they use that over cane sugar. With ice cream and some soda, cane sugar >is superior because of the flavor. > >Sugars are often added to make things taste sweeter and sell more >product. It just does not belong in some places in any form. Many food >processors are truly evil with ingredients not needed except to enhance >profit. But people in RFC often hate it when you point that out. They'd rather not know. |
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On 2019-02-17 1:29 p.m., songbird wrote:
> Gary wrote: >> wrote: >>> >>> Perhaps they've improved some but the last time I tried jarred pasta >>> sauce has to be twenty years ago and it was awful. >> >> The computer you used 20 years ago sucked compared to today's >> computers. Do you think food is any different? > > yes, by a long ways. > > most people eat a lot more over-processed foods > than they used to. > > his point is well supported by reading labels > in the pasta sauce aisle in a normal grocery store. We don't buy many processed or prepared foods. We tend to cook from scratch with fresh or frozen foods and some canned goods. I had tried some prepared pasta sauces and was never impressed. A couple minutes of chopping and sauteeing and then adding a jar of passata is usually better than anything commercially prepared and sold in a jar or can. A while ago I was introduced to the organic marinara sauce at Costco. I usually have some on hand and sometimes wonder if that little bit of work I go to is worth it. > > it's not just pasta sauce, but almost every item > inside the aisles (around the edges you find dairy, > meats, fruits and veggies). > > There are entire aisles of grocery stores I rarely even walk down except as a short cut. For instance, most of the grocery stores around here have a frozen foods section with pizzas, lasagna, meatballs and other various Italian entrees, chicken nuggets, fish sticks, waffles etc. Every once in a while I have to make a point of checking them out just so I know what is available. |
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On 2/17/2019 1:51 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:42:40 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> On 2/17/2019 12:10 PM, Gary wrote: >>> Roy wrote: >>>> >>>> It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain >>>> as to how BAD it was. >>>> Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. >>>> Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. >>> >>> Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in >>> moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just >>> mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. >>> >> In a tomato sauce it is lost and makes no difference. HFCS is cheap so >> they use that over cane sugar. With ice cream and some soda, cane sugar >> is superior because of the flavor. >> >> Sugars are often added to make things taste sweeter and sell more >> product. It just does not belong in some places in any form. Many food >> processors are truly evil with ingredients not needed except to enhance >> profit. > > But people in RFC often hate it when you point that out. They'd rather > not know. > You'd think people come to RFC so they can learn, share, eat better. You get needled quite a bit for posting ingredients, but, it shows why we should do real cooking unless you want to join rec.junkfood.chemicals. Today I'm making dinner for six and there won't be any chemicals. Beef, sweet potatoes, green beans. Butter, salt, pepper, garlic. Wine, iced tea, lemon. Sure, I eat junk at times, but very limited. |
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On 2019-02-17 2:53 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/17/2019 1:51 PM, Bruce wrote: >> On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:42:40 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >> >>> On 2/17/2019 12:10 PM, Gary wrote: >>>> Roy wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff >>>>> and then complain >>>>> as to how BAD it was. >>>>> Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. >>>>> Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. >>>> >>>> Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in >>>> moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just >>>> mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. >>>> >>> In a tomato sauce it is lost and makes no difference.Â* HFCS is cheap so >>> they use that over cane sugar.Â* With ice cream and some soda, cane sugar >>> is superior because of the flavor. >>> >>> Sugars are often added to make things taste sweeter and sell more >>> product.Â* It just does not belong in some places in any form.Â* Many food >>> processors are truly evil with ingredients not needed except to enhance >>> profit. >> >> But people in RFC often hate it when you point that out. They'd rather >> not know. >> > > You'd think people come to RFC so they can learn, share, eat better. You > get needled quite a bit for posting ingredients, but, it shows why we > should do real cooking unless you want to join rec.junkfood.chemicals. > > Today I'm making dinner for six and there won't be any chemicals.Â* Beef, > sweet potatoes, green beans.Â* Butter, salt, pepper, garlic.Â* Wine, iced > tea, lemon. > > Sure, I eat junk at times, but very limited. Our menu for the night is pretty well set. We are doing a prime rib of beef, garlic mashed potatoes, beans, squash, gravy and Yorkshire pudding. There will be some horse radish. Dessert is chocolate eclairs. I made the choux baking yesterday and my wife has iced the tops and will fill with whipped cream shortly. She will also be serving some of my leftover Christmas fruit cake. We plan to have some wine with it. Other than the wine and the horseradish, we will be preparing everything ourselves. Ooops... I forgot the fresh rolls that we picked up at the bakery this morning. |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 Gary wrote:
>penmart01 wrote: >> >> Perhaps they've improved some but the last time I tried jarred pasta >> sauce has to be twenty years ago and it was awful. > >The computer you used 20 years ago sucked compared to today's >computers. Do you think food is any different? Yes, food has greatly deteriorated, along with taste expectations... most people nowadays think shit tastes wonderful, their taste buds have migrated to their rectum... eat enough fast food you too will contract chronic TIAD. Restaurant food was better 20 years ago... was much better 60 years ago.... even your favorite Golden Arches burger was far better quality way back when it cost 15¢. I can still remember when house-made tube steak from a neighborhood German butcher shop was better quality than what today's most expensive steak houses serve. There will always be those who willingly drop a C-note on a crappy steak dinner and rave about it no end... The Emperor's New Clothes is timeless. Today people have grown accustomed to air travel on a measly bag of peanuts. I remember flying with a voluptuous stewardess bringing me a scrumptious meal... I don't fly anymore, I don't want some faggot bringing me peanuts. Truth is when you bought a computer 20 years ago it ran for twenty years. Today computers have lots more technology but you're lucky if they last 2 years. I knew right away that computer longiviety was going downhill fast when their steel cabinets and chasssis became plastic. I remember flying TWA, their Tourest Class was more posh than today's First Class, and air travel meals were superb |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 14:53:17 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 2/17/2019 1:51 PM, Bruce wrote: >> On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:42:40 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >> >>> In a tomato sauce it is lost and makes no difference. HFCS is cheap so >>> they use that over cane sugar. With ice cream and some soda, cane sugar >>> is superior because of the flavor. >>> >>> Sugars are often added to make things taste sweeter and sell more >>> product. It just does not belong in some places in any form. Many food >>> processors are truly evil with ingredients not needed except to enhance >>> profit. >> >> But people in RFC often hate it when you point that out. They'd rather >> not know. >> > >You'd think people come to RFC so they can learn, share, eat better. >You get needled quite a bit for posting ingredients, but, it shows why >we should do real cooking unless you want to join rec.junkfood.chemicals. > >Today I'm making dinner for six and there won't be any chemicals. Beef, >sweet potatoes, green beans. Butter, salt, pepper, garlic. Wine, iced >tea, lemon. > >Sure, I eat junk at times, but very limited. Yes, it's different when you choose to eat junk occasionally, but many people don't seem to realise that most prefab food is also junk. |
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 04:57:39 +1100, Bruce >
wrote: >On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 08:36:40 -0800 (PST), Roy > >wrote: > >>On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 1:05:42 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: >>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 23:38:23 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>> > wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >"Bruce" > wrote in message >>> .. . >>> >> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 18:29:20 -0500, S Viemeister >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >>>On 2/16/2019 4:23 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >>> >>>> Bruce > wrote: >>> >>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:32:16 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote: >>> >>>>>> Umm, might you be interpreting lack of salt as 'sweet' there? Neither >>> >>>>>> has sugar added at all. >>> >>>>> Campbell's Soup, Tomato: >>> >>>>> "water, tomato puree (water, tomato paste), sugar, bleached enriched >>> >>>>> flour (wheat flour, niacin, ferrous sulfate, thiamine mononitrate, >>> >>>>> riboflavin, folic acid), wheat flour, contains less than 1% of: dried >>> >>>>> dairy blend (whey, calcium caseinate), salt, modified food starch, >>> >>>>> butter (milk), vegetable oil (corn, cottonseed, canola and/or >>> >>>>> soybean), citric acid, flavoring and ascorbic acid (added to help >>> >>>>> retain color)." >>> >>>>> Sugar is the 3rd ingredient. >>> >>>>> We should organise a Misinformation Contest. In the left corner >>> >>>>> CSHENK, in the right corner SHELDON. It's gonna be close! >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> You are misinformed. Campbell's tomato soup doesn't contain sugar, it >>> >>>> contains high fructose corn syrup, as the SECOND ingredient-right >>> >>>> behind >>> >>>> tomato purée. That the equivalent of 3 teaspoons of sugar per serving. >>> >>>> >>> >>>Perhaps not misinformed. >>> >>>Many businesses with international distribution, vary their formulas for >>> >>>different countries - like Coca Cola, with HFCS in the US, but cane >>> >>>sugar in Mexico. I know that there are differences in the UK and US >>> >>>versions of Campbell's, and that is likely the case for Australia, too. >>> >> >>> >> I got it from he >>> >> >>> >> <http://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=product&id=FD74E9A6-18D4-11E1-8977-1231380C180E> >>> > >>> >Campbell's hasn't used sugar in this country for years. Only HFCS. >>> >>> In what way is that better or worse? >> >>It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain >>as to how BAD it was. >>Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. >>Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. >>===== > >Well, who on earth wants sugar of any other sweetener added to a >pizza. 6 year olds? Tomatoes are fruit, and fruit contains a lot of sugar naturally. if they are adding sugar then they are using unripened tasteless cardboard tomatoes. |
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 04:57:57 +1100, Bruce >
wrote: >On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:10:29 -0500, Gary > wrote: > >>Roy wrote: >>> >>> It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain >>> as to how BAD it was. >>> Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. >>> Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. >> >>Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in >>moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just >>mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. > >Because it has no place on a pizza. Then you don't want tomato on your pizza, and some sugar is required to feed the yeast. |
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On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 3:48:42 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 04:57:57 +1100, Bruce > > wrote: > > >On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:10:29 -0500, Gary > wrote: > > > >>Roy wrote: > >>> > >>> It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain > >>> as to how BAD it was. > >>> Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. > >>> Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. > >> > >>Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in > >>moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just > >>mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. > > > >Because it has no place on a pizza. > > Then you don't want tomato on your pizza, and some sugar is required > to feed the yeast. No sugar is required. I make pizza dough without sugar. The yeast gets along fine with the carbs in the flour. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 14:09:07 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 3:48:42 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: >> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 04:57:57 +1100, Bruce > >> wrote: >> >> >On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:10:29 -0500, Gary > wrote: >> > >> >>Roy wrote: >> >>> >> >>> It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain >> >>> as to how BAD it was. >> >>> Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. >> >>> Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. >> >> >> >>Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in >> >>moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just >> >>mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. >> > >> >Because it has no place on a pizza. >> >> Then you don't want tomato on your pizza, and some sugar is required >> to feed the yeast. > >No sugar is required. I make pizza dough without sugar. The yeast >gets along fine with the carbs in the flour. Exactly. I think it's an old fashioned, unnecessary step to add sugar. |
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On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 1:26:27 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "cshenk" > wrote in message > ... > > > > Julie, I was talking RV's and at 5 gallons, he'd just dump the water > > that had no more than a little ivory soap or something added. > > You expect a person who does work that gets him dirty and sweaty all day to > take a 5 gallon shower? I don't think so. There's a real shower, sink and > toilet in the house and the house is very close to the back house. > Our resident moron apparently doesn't have a clue about taking a shower in a motorhome. > > I do buy a lot of cheap baby wipes so he can use those if he needs to and he > has a water dispenser for drinking. > But she's willing to buy cheap baby wipes and think dozens of them will get him cleaner or as clean as a shower. Somewhere some village is missing their idiot and she's landed here. Aren't we lucky? |
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On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 6:10:34 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:
> > wrote: > > > Somewhere some village is missing their idiot > > and she's landed here. Aren't we lucky? > > > > Well, the gardener can't get too dirty ... he's only pruning her begonias. > BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! |
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On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/17/2019 1:51 PM, Bruce wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:42:40 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > > > >> On 2/17/2019 12:10 PM, Gary wrote: > >>> Roy wrote: > >>>> > >>>> It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain > >>>> as to how BAD it was. > >>>> Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. > >>>> Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. > >>> > >>> Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in > >>> moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just > >>> mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. > >>> > >> In a tomato sauce it is lost and makes no difference. HFCS is cheap so > >> they use that over cane sugar. With ice cream and some soda, cane sugar > >> is superior because of the flavor. > >> > >> Sugars are often added to make things taste sweeter and sell more > >> product. It just does not belong in some places in any form. Many food > >> processors are truly evil with ingredients not needed except to enhance > >> profit. > > > > But people in RFC often hate it when you point that out. They'd rather > > not know. > > > > You'd think people come to RFC so they can learn, share, eat better. > You get needled quite a bit for posting ingredients, but, it shows why > we should do real cooking unless you want to join rec.junkfood.chemicals. > > Today I'm making dinner for six and there won't be any chemicals. Beef, > sweet potatoes, green beans. Butter, salt, pepper, garlic. Wine, iced > tea, lemon. > > Sure, I eat junk at times, but very limited. Here's what we had for lunch yesterday. 100% all natural Chinese food: https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...liOCYyss8ZZQ65 |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 17:24:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote: >On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 2/17/2019 1:51 PM, Bruce wrote: >> > On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:42:40 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >> > >> >> On 2/17/2019 12:10 PM, Gary wrote: >> >>> Roy wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain >> >>>> as to how BAD it was. >> >>>> Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. >> >>>> Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. >> >>> >> >>> Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in >> >>> moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just >> >>> mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. >> >>> >> >> In a tomato sauce it is lost and makes no difference. HFCS is cheap so >> >> they use that over cane sugar. With ice cream and some soda, cane sugar >> >> is superior because of the flavor. >> >> >> >> Sugars are often added to make things taste sweeter and sell more >> >> product. It just does not belong in some places in any form. Many food >> >> processors are truly evil with ingredients not needed except to enhance >> >> profit. >> > >> > But people in RFC often hate it when you point that out. They'd rather >> > not know. >> > >> >> You'd think people come to RFC so they can learn, share, eat better. >> You get needled quite a bit for posting ingredients, but, it shows why >> we should do real cooking unless you want to join rec.junkfood.chemicals. >> >> Today I'm making dinner for six and there won't be any chemicals. Beef, >> sweet potatoes, green beans. Butter, salt, pepper, garlic. Wine, iced >> tea, lemon. >> >> Sure, I eat junk at times, but very limited. > >Here's what we had for lunch yesterday. 100% all natural Chinese food: > >https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...liOCYyss8ZZQ65 My experience with the small Chinese restaurants in Sydney is that they're great chefs and their food's very cheap. And I'll forgive them the cockroaches if they and their excrements don't end up in the food. But because they're so focused on cheap, their meat's the worst industry meat, their vegetables are the cheapest probably GM vegetables, their fish is dank basement grown basa and their prawns are chicken manure fed from Asia. I'd rather pay a bit more. |
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"cshenk" > wrote in message ... > Julie Bove wrote: > >> >> "cshenk" > wrote in message >> ... >> > Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> > >> > > On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 10:44:36 AM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: >> >>> Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> > > > >> >>> > On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 6:20:26 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: >> >>> > > On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 6:02:28 AM UTC-10, Sheldon >> >>> > > wrote: >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > Yoose all should be embarrassed to advertise that yoose all >> >>> > > > buy that doodoo... it's very easy to make your own by the >> big >>> > > > potful and freeze portions... would be a much better >> product >>> > > > and would cost far less. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > People that think it's easier to cook up a giant pot of stuff >> >>> > > than open a little can probably need to get themselves a >> better >>> > > can opener. >> >>> > >> >>> > Not easier than a can, but not difficult. And a much, much >> better >>> > result. >> >>> > For me, canned and jarred sauces and soups are much too sweet. >> >>> > >> >>> > Cindy Hamilton >> > > > >> >>> Mostly the canned and jarred sauces (especially in the so called >> >>> more high scale brands) add a lot of sugar and/or salt to them. >> >>> Haven't noted a sweet soup yet but there probably are some. >> > > >> > > Campbell's tomato soup is horribly sweet. So's the vegetarian >> > > vegetable. >> > > >> > > Cindy Hamilton >> > >> > Umm, might you be interpreting lack of salt as 'sweet' there? >> > Neither has sugar added at all. >> >> Nope. It's sickeningly sweet. Not likely sugar. More likely HFCS. > > Humm, ok apparently campbells tomato adds sugar? LOL, didn't know > that. The Vegetarian Veggie one I have has no sugar added at all. In this country its HFCS. |
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"Bruce" > wrote in message ... > On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 23:38:23 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> >>"Bruce" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 18:29:20 -0500, S Viemeister >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>On 2/16/2019 4:23 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>>> Bruce > wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:32:16 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote: >>>>>>> Umm, might you be interpreting lack of salt as 'sweet' there? >>>>>>> Neither >>>>>>> has sugar added at all. >>>>>> Campbell's Soup, Tomato: >>>>>> "water, tomato puree (water, tomato paste), sugar, bleached enriched >>>>>> flour (wheat flour, niacin, ferrous sulfate, thiamine mononitrate, >>>>>> riboflavin, folic acid), wheat flour, contains less than 1% of: dried >>>>>> dairy blend (whey, calcium caseinate), salt, modified food starch, >>>>>> butter (milk), vegetable oil (corn, cottonseed, canola and/or >>>>>> soybean), citric acid, flavoring and ascorbic acid (added to help >>>>>> retain color)." >>>>>> Sugar is the 3rd ingredient. >>>>>> We should organise a Misinformation Contest. In the left corner >>>>>> CSHENK, in the right corner SHELDON. It's gonna be close! >>>>>> >>>>> You are misinformed. Campbell's tomato soup doesn't contain sugar, it >>>>> contains high fructose corn syrup, as the SECOND ingredient-right >>>>> behind >>>>> tomato purée. That the equivalent of 3 teaspoons of sugar per >>>>> serving. >>>>> >>>>Perhaps not misinformed. >>>>Many businesses with international distribution, vary their formulas for >>>>different countries - like Coca Cola, with HFCS in the US, but cane >>>>sugar in Mexico. I know that there are differences in the UK and US >>>>versions of Campbell's, and that is likely the case for Australia, too. >>> >>> I got it from he >>> >>> <http://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=product&id=FD74E9A6-18D4-11E1-8977-1231380C180E> >> >>Campbell's hasn't used sugar in this country for years. Only HFCS. > > In what way is that better or worse? It is suspected to cause heart problems in diabetics and the way it is processed in the body, it can lead to obesity, more so than sugar. But corn is abundant here so it's cheaper to use. |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 17:53:11 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Bruce" > wrote in message .. . >> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 23:38:23 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>> >>>"Bruce" > wrote in message ... >>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 18:29:20 -0500, S Viemeister >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>>On 2/16/2019 4:23 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>>>> Bruce > wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:32:16 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote: >>>>>>>> Umm, might you be interpreting lack of salt as 'sweet' there? >>>>>>>> Neither >>>>>>>> has sugar added at all. >>>>>>> Campbell's Soup, Tomato: >>>>>>> "water, tomato puree (water, tomato paste), sugar, bleached enriched >>>>>>> flour (wheat flour, niacin, ferrous sulfate, thiamine mononitrate, >>>>>>> riboflavin, folic acid), wheat flour, contains less than 1% of: dried >>>>>>> dairy blend (whey, calcium caseinate), salt, modified food starch, >>>>>>> butter (milk), vegetable oil (corn, cottonseed, canola and/or >>>>>>> soybean), citric acid, flavoring and ascorbic acid (added to help >>>>>>> retain color)." >>>>>>> Sugar is the 3rd ingredient. >>>>>>> We should organise a Misinformation Contest. In the left corner >>>>>>> CSHENK, in the right corner SHELDON. It's gonna be close! >>>>>>> >>>>>> You are misinformed. Campbell's tomato soup doesn't contain sugar, it >>>>>> contains high fructose corn syrup, as the SECOND ingredient-right >>>>>> behind >>>>>> tomato purée. That the equivalent of 3 teaspoons of sugar per >>>>>> serving. >>>>>> >>>>>Perhaps not misinformed. >>>>>Many businesses with international distribution, vary their formulas for >>>>>different countries - like Coca Cola, with HFCS in the US, but cane >>>>>sugar in Mexico. I know that there are differences in the UK and US >>>>>versions of Campbell's, and that is likely the case for Australia, too. >>>> >>>> I got it from he >>>> >>>> <http://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=product&id=FD74E9A6-18D4-11E1-8977-1231380C180E> >>> >>>Campbell's hasn't used sugar in this country for years. Only HFCS. >> >> In what way is that better or worse? > >It is suspected to cause heart problems in diabetics and the way it is >processed in the body, it can lead to obesity, more so than sugar. But corn >is abundant here so it's cheaper to use. And probably GM corn. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 2/17/2019 1:51 PM, Bruce wrote: >> On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:42:40 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >> >>> On 2/17/2019 12:10 PM, Gary wrote: >>>> Roy wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff >>>>> and then complain >>>>> as to how BAD it was. >>>>> Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. >>>>> Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. >>>> >>>> Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in >>>> moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just >>>> mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. >>>> >>> In a tomato sauce it is lost and makes no difference. HFCS is cheap so >>> they use that over cane sugar. With ice cream and some soda, cane sugar >>> is superior because of the flavor. >>> >>> Sugars are often added to make things taste sweeter and sell more >>> product. It just does not belong in some places in any form. Many food >>> processors are truly evil with ingredients not needed except to enhance >>> profit. >> >> But people in RFC often hate it when you point that out. They'd rather >> not know. >> > > You'd think people come to RFC so they can learn, share, eat better. You > get needled quite a bit for posting ingredients, but, it shows why we > should do real cooking unless you want to join rec.junkfood.chemicals. > > Today I'm making dinner for six and there won't be any chemicals. Beef, > sweet potatoes, green beans. Butter, salt, pepper, garlic. Wine, iced > tea, lemon. > > Sure, I eat junk at times, but very limited. I screwed up! What I took out of the freezer was not bean soup at all but beef stew. Grrr... So I am cooking some small red beans. I cooked rice yesterday. Will make a salad with bacon in it. People can pick and choose what they eat. Pot roast tomorrow. |
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 17:24:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote: >On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 2/17/2019 1:51 PM, Bruce wrote: >> > On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:42:40 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >> > >> >> On 2/17/2019 12:10 PM, Gary wrote: >> >>> Roy wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> It wouldn't matter what they use as Julie would still buy the stuff and then complain >> >>>> as to how BAD it was. >> >>>> Jeez, If it is bad then DON'T BUY THE CRAP and get on with life. >> >>>> Cook your own or procure a better brand of canned pasta. >> >>> >> >>> Not only that...sugar in any form is not evil. All food in >> >>> moderation is the bottom line. Way too many food snobs here. Just >> >>> mention HFCS here and people gasp in horror. Get real. >> >>> >> >> In a tomato sauce it is lost and makes no difference. HFCS is cheap so >> >> they use that over cane sugar. With ice cream and some soda, cane sugar >> >> is superior because of the flavor. >> >> >> >> Sugars are often added to make things taste sweeter and sell more >> >> product. It just does not belong in some places in any form. Many food >> >> processors are truly evil with ingredients not needed except to enhance >> >> profit. >> > >> > But people in RFC often hate it when you point that out. They'd rather >> > not know. >> > >> >> You'd think people come to RFC so they can learn, share, eat better. >> You get needled quite a bit for posting ingredients, but, it shows why >> we should do real cooking unless you want to join rec.junkfood.chemicals. >> >> Today I'm making dinner for six and there won't be any chemicals. Beef, >> sweet potatoes, green beans. Butter, salt, pepper, garlic. Wine, iced >> tea, lemon. >> >> Sure, I eat junk at times, but very limited. > >Here's what we had for lunch yesterday. 100% all natural Chinese food: > >https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...liOCYyss8ZZQ65 What is it, it doesn't look like any Chinese food I've ever seen... pieces are too big and sloppily arranged... and why the fork, Chinese eat with chopsticks. |
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On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 8:23:03 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 17:24:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > > wrote: > > >Here's what we had for lunch yesterday. 100% all natural Chinese food: > > > >https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...liOCYyss8ZZQ65 > > What is it, it doesn't look like any Chinese food I've ever seen... > pieces are too big and sloppily arranged... and why the fork, Chinese > eat with chopsticks. > Every Chinese restaurant, fancy and expensive or plain and cheap, are ALL going to be different. Not a single one of food items will look the same; similar maybe, but not the same. The only folks, besides Orientals, that I see eating with chopsticks are the locals trying to impress other diners. Chopsticks do not make the food taste any better than using a fork nor does it make your dining experience any better. |
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