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On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 14:46:33 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote: >On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 12:05:14 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >> On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 13:57:24 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >> > wrote: >> >> >On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 8:26:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: >> >> --- >> >> >> >> Pah you are just spoiled <g> >> > >> >Yes, wherever we may roam, it's tough to get food like we do on this rock. My niece from California says there's a Hawaiian place that serves chicken katsu in her town. She says there's also 3 places open that serve poke. Two of the places are good and one is so-so. That's encouraging. :) >> >> Didn't you know that one of the fun things about travelling is that >> you get to eat local stuff instead of the same food you always have? >> You remind me of an Australian women who went to Singapore. "They eat >> all kinds of weird things there. Thank God they had McDonalds!" >> >> I can just see you wandering through Stockholm, looking for the >> Hawaiian restaurant. > >The difference is that I can get American food anywhere in the US, including Hawaii. What I can't get on the mainland is local Hawaiian food. Traveling out of the US is a different matter, because it's a food adventure. I don't expect to find American food or Hawaiian food in most countries. No and if you do, you might not recognize it if it's not run by the real people. I once had breakfast in an "American" place in Belgium. The only American thing about it where the US flags that the place was covered in. >OTOH, when my dad was in Sweden, the cook found out he was from Hawaii and told him that he could make real saimin. What my dad got was spaghetti in chicken soup. That was a big disappointment. OTOH, my dad is now in Las Vegas. My guess is that LV is the only place on the mainland where you can get local Hawaiian style food without much difficulty. Learn something new every day. I thought LV was all about money and fake glamour. |
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Ophelia wrote:
> > > "cshenk" wrote in message > ... > > Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 3:08:17 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote: > >> On 2019-02-18 1:56 p.m., wrote: > >> > On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 12:52:19 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > >> > > > >> >> Eating with chopsticks is pretentious? How redneck. I bet you > >> use your >> hands. > >> > > > >> > Don't be stupid. There is no need to eat with chopsticks at home > >> > or in a Chinese restaurant unless you want to show off your > >> > 'skills.' > >> > > >> > I bet you cut up your food using the 'ham fisted' method. > >> > > >> Beats the heck out of me why someone who normally eats with a knife > >> an fork would use chop sticks only when they eat Asian food. > > > > What about someone who normally eats with whatever is convenient > > and appropriate to the food being consumed? I'd never approach > > a whole steak with chopsticks, but see no reason not to use them > > when they're right on the table at the Chinese restaurant. > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > Good one there! I'd cut the steak with a fork and knife, then use > chopsticks if there was a communal dipping sauce bowl, dipping the > meat so that the part touched by my mouth touched, did not hit the > bowl. The othr way is to reverse the chopsticks when dipping, then > put on your plate and reverse again so your mouth slaiva never > touches the contents of a communal dip bowl. > > == > > See? You are obviously expert too! So why the denigration of those > who want to try! I see no reason to not use them if they suit a purpose. I use them when they fit the meal and that may or may not be an 'asian meal'. |
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Ophelia wrote:
> > > "cshenk" wrote in message > ... > > wrote: > > > On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 12:52:19 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > > > >> Eating with chopsticks is pretentious? How redneck. I bet you use > >> your hands. > > > > > Don't be stupid. There is no need to eat with chopsticks at home or > > in a Chinese restaurant unless you want to show off your 'skills.' > > > It's a bit more than that. Once really *used to them* you start to > find they are not only a bit fun, but work better for some foods. > Cooking utensils also change as it's FAR easier to flip some things > with 'cooking chopsticks' such as lumpia, rounmd sausage or spring > roll. > > There is no need for someone not used to them to learn how to use > them, but there is also no reason why someone who grew up with using > them to not use them at home. > > === > > But why can someone not learn to use them if they wish?? > > Sorry but this is getting ridiculous!! It amazes me just how > prescriptive some people are about things that are none of their > business!!! > > Perhaps someone can tell us what else we are and are not allowed to > do? It would be good to know in advance so we don't get it wrong! > > Come on Carol. You are not normally like this! Ophelia, I never said someone can't learn or may not enjoy it if they wish. I only said they do not have to. I suspect some bad chopping other another's comment who said it was pretentious to use them at all. |
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On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 1:08:51 PM UTC-10, GM wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > > On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 8:26:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > > --- > > > > > > Pah you are just spoiled <g> > > > > Yes, wherever we may roam, it's tough to get food like we do on this rock. My niece from California says there's a Hawaiian place that serves chicken katsu in her town. She says there's also 3 places open that serve poke. Two of the places are good and one is so-so. That's encouraging. :) > > > > For breakfast, my wife had fried pork belly with kim chee. The kim chee was unusual, it was aged stuff. The cabbage gets almost gel-like and the flavor deepens. We wouldn't normally eat kim chee that old but with the pork belly it was pretty wonderful. Oddly enough, kim chee, bacon, bacon fat, and rice, is a Korean comfort food. > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5ynavWBupV7HOA > > > Another Korean comfort food is "Army Stew", it is fried Spam, kimchi, and rice... > > Spam is very popular in South Korea, it arrived with the US soldiers during the Korean War. Spam in fancy gift boxes is a popular present for special occasions, a luxury box can cost hundreds of dollars: > > https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...ift-in-s-korea > > > "Spam is no junk meat - it's fit for a gift in South Korea > > JINCHEON, SOUTH KOREA (AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE) - From the front lines of war to a staple of institutional catering, Spam is rarely seen as a gourmet ingredient - but the canned pink meat holds a unique position in South Korea as a top-selling holiday gift. > > Ahead of the Chuseok harvest festival which started yesterday - one of Korea's biggest celebrations and an occasion for mass family gatherings - presentation wooden boxes of the blue-and-yellow tins, nestled in packing straw, line the shelves of both major retailers and local convenience stores. > > An upmarket black-label pack with six cans of Spam and two bottles of Andalusian olive oil costs over 90,000 won (S$110), but the most popular version is a nine-tin set at 30,000 won. > > Office worker Lee Yoon-ho bought five to give acquaintances, calling it "the most universal" present. "It's affordable and everyone likes it," he said. "All South Koreans like Spam." > > Spam gift boxes worth a total of around 213 billion won were sold in South Korea last year - six times as much as in 2008, when the figure was first recorded. A spokesman for supermarket giant Homeplus said the tinned meat hampers ranked second, third and fourth in its top-selling products last Chuseok. > > "In Western countries, Spam is considered a cheap substitute to fresh meat and people nowadays tend to view it fairly negatively as they associate it with ration packs and poor quality meat," Ms Da-hae West, author of the English-language cookbook Eat Korean, told AFP. "Because Spam is both salty and high in fat, it complements the spicy, tangy elements of Korean food very well - particularly kimchi, as the flavours balance each other out," she said. > > Spam was introduced to the peninsula by the United States army in the 1950s, when civilian food supplies were running low - with meat scarce - during the Korean War. > > South Korea is the second-biggest consumer of Spam after the US, according to US conglomerate Hormel Foods..." > > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-24140705 > > "Why is Spam a luxury food in South Korea? > > Asia is celebrating the annual lunar thanksgiving holiday this week. In South Korea, where it's known as Chuseok, the holiday is celebrated by visiting family, paying respects to ancestors... and the giving and receiving of packaged cans of Spam. > > The pre-cooked tins of pork meat are the stuff of jokes, lunch boxes, wartime memories and, here in South Korea, a low-key, national love affair. > > Spam has become a staple of South Korean life, and the country is now the biggest consumer of it outside the US. > > Since Spam was first launched in the US before World War II, more than seven billion of these chunky little cans have rolled off production lines - like the ones at Spam's South Korean factory in Chuncheong Province. > > Here you can find Classic Spam, Mild Spam, Bacon Spam, Garlic Spam€¦. "If you've got Spam" the slogan on the can proclaims, "you've got it all!" > > So, not for South Korean cans, a dusty shelf at the back of the supermarket. > > Humble origins > Spam, and its home-grown competitors, are prime gifts for the lunar thanksgiving holiday, and they are displayed with verve, in lavish gift-boxes, sometimes topped with ribbon. > > Spam is considered a luxury item, although its origins are humble > The premium Black Label hamper will set you back around $75 (£50). > > "It has Andalucia Olive Oil, and nine tins of Spam," the company's brand manager, Shin Hyo Eun, explains. > > The only way to get meat in those days was to smuggle it from the army base > Ho Gi-suk, Restaurant owner > "Spam has a premium image in Korea. It's probably the most desirable gift one could receive, and to help create the high-class image, we use famous actors in our commercials. > > "Anyone who gets a Spam gift-set also gets a warm feeling in their heart." > > Spam does have a different image here, compared with the West. Where else would television commercials show a young couple ditching their romantic dinner to head home for a plate of Spam? > > But its origins here are much more humble. > > Smuggled spam > > Spam was introduced to Korea by the US army during the Korean War, when food was scarce - and meat even scarcer. Back then, people used whatever they could find to make a meal. > > But the appeal of Spam lasted through the years of plenty and it's now so much a part of South Korean food culture, that it's the staple ingredient in one of the country's favourite dishes: budae jigae or army stew. > > There are lots of restaurants specialising in it, but the most famous line one particular street, just around the corner from a US military base. > > One of the restaurants there is run by Ho Gi-suk. > > She claims to have invented Army Stew back in 1954, when someone brought her smuggled spam, sausages and bacon from the local army base. Mrs Ho made them into a spicy soup, and the rest is history. > > "Back then," she tells me, "there wasn't a lot to eat. But I acquired some ham and sausages€¦ the only way to get meat in those days was to smuggle it from the army base. > > "We had to make do with whatever the soldiers had left over; sometimes it was turkey, sometimes Spam. We'd make a stew with whatever came out, and my recipe was copied and spread throughout Korea." > > Army Stew is now well-established as part of South Korea's culinary landscape - as traditional here as Spam gift-sets for thanksgiving. > > "It's salty, and greasy, and goes very well with the spices," one customer told me. "Korean soup and American ham - it's the perfect fusion food." > > </> The funny thing about that is that I've never seen Korean army stew served in Hawaii. It's easy enough to make so it might go over good at a party. My guess is that you'd be a popular guy if you made it at parties. I wouldn't do it myself but that's just the kind of crazy stuff that millennials like to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCogEWzGDQQ |
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On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 1:17:05 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > Learn something new every day. I thought LV was all about money and > fake glamour. Las Vegas might be all about money and fake glamour but it's also the only place on the mainland where you can get local Hawaiian style food without much difficulty. You wouldn't know that unless you lived here. https://www.yelp.com/search?cflt=haw...as+Vegas%2C+NV |
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 16:32:34 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote: >On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 1:17:05 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >> >> Learn something new every day. I thought LV was all about money and >> fake glamour. > >Las Vegas might be all about money and fake glamour but it's also the only place on the mainland where you can get local Hawaiian style food without much difficulty. You wouldn't know that unless you lived here. > >https://www.yelp.com/search?cflt=haw...as+Vegas%2C+NV The food looks very interesting. |
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On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 5:42:14 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> > wrote: > > Yes, true 'off grid' is a bit different but they do have a little solar > panel on top. It feeds to a small battery that they use to charge > cellphones at night and a DVD player (like this: > > <https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sylvania-Sdvd9020b-black-9-Portable-Dvd-Players-With-5-hour-Battery-black/15066091?athcpid=15066091&athpgid=athenaItemPage&a thcgid=null&athznid=PWVUB&athieid=v0&athstid=CS020 &athguid=86ddf8e3-175-1690d181d8b35b&athena=true> > > Anyways, their 5gal 'hot water heater' arrived today and they tested it > with the LP hookup then took it to the kitchen and washed the dishes. > They have a bracket mount for it at the back of the RV to use as a > shower (when rolling, it's inside someplace obviously). > > They tried to describe the arrangement over the phone and it sounded > both crazy and workable. > Most of the smaller campers have outside faucets so a shower can be taken outdoors or at least a rinse off. Free-standing private shower tents can also be rigged up outdoors. > > Best I can replicate: At the top of the PVC pipe arrangement is a sort > of '6 gallon square plastic funnel' with a shower head (and a turn off > toggle). Hot water is mixed with ambient temp water to the right temp > from another 5gal jug. He said that cold water jug is perched on the > roof but he didnt feel safe running a LP heater that way so made a > bracket for that. > > Heater at max temp, his mix of 50/50 hot and cold seems to provide a > suitable amount. > > See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_shower > > It's not a 'Hollywood shower' but quite suitable when water is short, > and with 5G cold/ambient and 5G hot, they get plenty to wash hair and > such when not at a camp ground. The average 'Navy Shower' is 3 gallons > and they will have 5 each, or they can each take 3G showers and then > use the rest to wash the dishes with a single LP heated water set. > > Anyways, I'm having fun watching them tell me about it! > There's lots of things they can rig up to use to save time and water that many of us haven't ever thought of doing. Whenever we stayed in campgrounds we also used their shower facilities. But out in wilds you have to make do. |
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 18:29:56 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote: >On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 5:42:14 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote: >> >> wrote: >> >> Yes, true 'off grid' is a bit different but they do have a little solar >> panel on top. It feeds to a small battery that they use to charge >> cellphones at night and a DVD player (like this: >> >> <https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sylvania-Sdvd9020b-black-9-Portable-Dvd-Players-With-5-hour-Battery-black/15066091?athcpid=15066091&athpgid=athenaItemPage&a thcgid=null&athznid=PWVUB&athieid=v0&athstid=CS020 &athguid=86ddf8e3-175-1690d181d8b35b&athena=true> >> >> Anyways, their 5gal 'hot water heater' arrived today and they tested it >> with the LP hookup then took it to the kitchen and washed the dishes. >> They have a bracket mount for it at the back of the RV to use as a >> shower (when rolling, it's inside someplace obviously). >> >> They tried to describe the arrangement over the phone and it sounded >> both crazy and workable. >> >Most of the smaller campers have outside faucets so a shower can be taken >outdoors or at least a rinse off. Free-standing private shower tents can >also be rigged up outdoors. >> >> Best I can replicate: At the top of the PVC pipe arrangement is a sort >> of '6 gallon square plastic funnel' with a shower head (and a turn off >> toggle). Hot water is mixed with ambient temp water to the right temp >> from another 5gal jug. He said that cold water jug is perched on the >> roof but he didnt feel safe running a LP heater that way so made a >> bracket for that. >> >> Heater at max temp, his mix of 50/50 hot and cold seems to provide a >> suitable amount. >> >> See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_shower >> >> It's not a 'Hollywood shower' but quite suitable when water is short, >> and with 5G cold/ambient and 5G hot, they get plenty to wash hair and >> such when not at a camp ground. The average 'Navy Shower' is 3 gallons >> and they will have 5 each, or they can each take 3G showers and then >> use the rest to wash the dishes with a single LP heated water set. >> >> Anyways, I'm having fun watching them tell me about it! >> >There's lots of things they can rig up to use to save time and water that >many of us haven't ever thought of doing. Whenever we stayed in campgrounds >we also used their shower facilities. But out in wilds you have to make do. I bought a 5 acre lot on a lake in Washington New Hampshire, this was some 50 years ago. There was a rustic cabin on the lake and for thanksgiving I spent the time with my daughter, She loved it even though we ate turkey sandwiches. One Thanksgiving it began to snow and we could barely get up the hill from the lake... If I didn;t have the Dodge 4X4 pick up we would have been stuck there until May. |
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> On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 18:29:56 -0800 (PST), " > > wrote: > >> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 5:42:14 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote: >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, true 'off grid' is a bit different but they do have a little solar >>> panel on top. It feeds to a small battery that they use to charge >>> cellphones at night and a DVD player (like this: >>> >>> <https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sylvania-Sdvd9020b-black-9-Portable-Dvd-Players-With-5-hour-Battery-black/15066091?athcpid=15066091&athpgid=athenaItemPage&a thcgid=null&athznid=PWVUB&athieid=v0&athstid=CS020 &athguid=86ddf8e3-175-1690d181d8b35b&athena=true> >>> >>> Anyways, their 5gal 'hot water heater' arrived today and they tested it >>> with the LP hookup then took it to the kitchen and washed the dishes. >>> They have a bracket mount for it at the back of the RV to use as a >>> shower (when rolling, it's inside someplace obviously). >>> >>> They tried to describe the arrangement over the phone and it sounded >>> both crazy and workable. >>> >> Most of the smaller campers have outside faucets so a shower can be taken >> outdoors or at least a rinse off. Free-standing private shower tents can >> also be rigged up outdoors. >>> >>> Best I can replicate: At the top of the PVC pipe arrangement is a sort >>> of '6 gallon square plastic funnel' with a shower head (and a turn off >>> toggle). Hot water is mixed with ambient temp water to the right temp >>> from another 5gal jug. He said that cold water jug is perched on the >>> roof but he didnt feel safe running a LP heater that way so made a >>> bracket for that. >>> >>> Heater at max temp, his mix of 50/50 hot and cold seems to provide a >>> suitable amount. >>> >>> See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_shower >>> >>> It's not a 'Hollywood shower' but quite suitable when water is short, >>> and with 5G cold/ambient and 5G hot, they get plenty to wash hair and >>> such when not at a camp ground. The average 'Navy Shower' is 3 gallons >>> and they will have 5 each, or they can each take 3G showers and then >>> use the rest to wash the dishes with a single LP heated water set. >>> >>> Anyways, I'm having fun watching them tell me about it! >>> >> There's lots of things they can rig up to use to save time and water that >> many of us haven't ever thought of doing. Whenever we stayed in campgrounds >> we also used their shower facilities. But out in wilds you have to make do. > > I bought a 5 acre lot on a lake in Washington New Hampshire, this was > some 50 years ago. There was a rustic cabin on the lake and for > thanksgiving I spent the time with my daughter, She loved it even > though we ate turkey sandwiches. One Thanksgiving it began to snow > and we could barely get up the hill from the lake... If I didn;t have > the Dodge 4X4 pick up we would have been stuck there until May. > Popeye, did yoose hump yoose daughter at that cabin? I bet yoose did. Yoose the strongest man in the world. |
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 21:05:50 -0600, Hank Rogers >
wrote: wrote: >> On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 18:29:56 -0800 (PST), " >> > wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 5:42:14 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote: >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, true 'off grid' is a bit different but they do have a little solar >>>> panel on top. It feeds to a small battery that they use to charge >>>> cellphones at night and a DVD player (like this: >>>> >>>> <https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sylvania-Sdvd9020b-black-9-Portable-Dvd-Players-With-5-hour-Battery-black/15066091?athcpid=15066091&athpgid=athenaItemPage&a thcgid=null&athznid=PWVUB&athieid=v0&athstid=CS020 &athguid=86ddf8e3-175-1690d181d8b35b&athena=true> >>>> >>>> Anyways, their 5gal 'hot water heater' arrived today and they tested it >>>> with the LP hookup then took it to the kitchen and washed the dishes. >>>> They have a bracket mount for it at the back of the RV to use as a >>>> shower (when rolling, it's inside someplace obviously). >>>> >>>> They tried to describe the arrangement over the phone and it sounded >>>> both crazy and workable. >>>> >>> Most of the smaller campers have outside faucets so a shower can be taken >>> outdoors or at least a rinse off. Free-standing private shower tents can >>> also be rigged up outdoors. >>>> >>>> Best I can replicate: At the top of the PVC pipe arrangement is a sort >>>> of '6 gallon square plastic funnel' with a shower head (and a turn off >>>> toggle). Hot water is mixed with ambient temp water to the right temp >>>> from another 5gal jug. He said that cold water jug is perched on the >>>> roof but he didnt feel safe running a LP heater that way so made a >>>> bracket for that. >>>> >>>> Heater at max temp, his mix of 50/50 hot and cold seems to provide a >>>> suitable amount. >>>> >>>> See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_shower >>>> >>>> It's not a 'Hollywood shower' but quite suitable when water is short, >>>> and with 5G cold/ambient and 5G hot, they get plenty to wash hair and >>>> such when not at a camp ground. The average 'Navy Shower' is 3 gallons >>>> and they will have 5 each, or they can each take 3G showers and then >>>> use the rest to wash the dishes with a single LP heated water set. >>>> >>>> Anyways, I'm having fun watching them tell me about it! >>>> >>> There's lots of things they can rig up to use to save time and water that >>> many of us haven't ever thought of doing. Whenever we stayed in campgrounds >>> we also used their shower facilities. But out in wilds you have to make do. >> >> I bought a 5 acre lot on a lake in Washington New Hampshire, this was >> some 50 years ago. There was a rustic cabin on the lake and for >> thanksgiving I spent the time with my daughter, She loved it even >> though we ate turkey sandwiches. One Thanksgiving it began to snow >> and we could barely get up the hill from the lake... If I didn;t have >> the Dodge 4X4 pick up we would have been stuck there until May. >> > >Popeye, did yoose hump yoose daughter at that cabin? > >I bet yoose did. Yoose the strongest man in the world. Popeye could have made himself a path up that hill just by breathing on the snow. |
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"dsi1" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 8:26:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > --- > > Pah you are just spoiled <g> Yes, wherever we may roam, it's tough to get food like we do on this rock. My niece from California says there's a Hawaiian place that serves chicken katsu in her town. She says there's also 3 places open that serve poke. Two of the places are good and one is so-so. That's encouraging. :) For breakfast, my wife had fried pork belly with kim chee. The kim chee was unusual, it was aged stuff. The cabbage gets almost gel-like and the flavor deepens. We wouldn't normally eat kim chee that old but with the pork belly it was pretty wonderful. Oddly enough, kim chee, bacon, bacon fat, and rice, is a Korean comfort food. https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5ynavWBupV7HOA == Looks great:)) |
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"dsi1" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 1:08:51 PM UTC-10, GM wrote: > dsi1 wrote: > > > On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 8:26:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > > --- > > > > > > Pah you are just spoiled <g> > > > > Yes, wherever we may roam, it's tough to get food like we do on this > > rock. My niece from California says there's a Hawaiian place that serves > > chicken katsu in her town. She says there's also 3 places open that > > serve poke. Two of the places are good and one is so-so. That's > > encouraging. :) > > > > For breakfast, my wife had fried pork belly with kim chee. The kim chee > > was unusual, it was aged stuff. The cabbage gets almost gel-like and the > > flavor deepens. We wouldn't normally eat kim chee that old but with the > > pork belly it was pretty wonderful. Oddly enough, kim chee, bacon, bacon > > fat, and rice, is a Korean comfort food. > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5ynavWBupV7HOA > > > Another Korean comfort food is "Army Stew", it is fried Spam, kimchi, and > rice... > > Spam is very popular in South Korea, it arrived with the US soldiers > during the Korean War. Spam in fancy gift boxes is a popular present for > special occasions, a luxury box can cost hundreds of dollars: > > https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...ift-in-s-korea > > > "Spam is no junk meat - it's fit for a gift in South Korea > > JINCHEON, SOUTH KOREA (AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE) - From the front lines of war > to a staple of institutional catering, Spam is rarely seen as a gourmet > ingredient - but the canned pink meat holds a unique position in South > Korea as a top-selling holiday gift. > > Ahead of the Chuseok harvest festival which started yesterday - one of > Korea's biggest celebrations and an occasion for mass family gatherings - > presentation wooden boxes of the blue-and-yellow tins, nestled in packing > straw, line the shelves of both major retailers and local convenience > stores. > > An upmarket black-label pack with six cans of Spam and two bottles of > Andalusian olive oil costs over 90,000 won (S$110), but the most popular > version is a nine-tin set at 30,000 won. > > Office worker Lee Yoon-ho bought five to give acquaintances, calling it > "the most universal" present. "It's affordable and everyone likes it," he > said. "All South Koreans like Spam." > > Spam gift boxes worth a total of around 213 billion won were sold in South > Korea last year - six times as much as in 2008, when the figure was first > recorded. A spokesman for supermarket giant Homeplus said the tinned meat > hampers ranked second, third and fourth in its top-selling products last > Chuseok. > > "In Western countries, Spam is considered a cheap substitute to fresh meat > and people nowadays tend to view it fairly negatively as they associate it > with ration packs and poor quality meat," Ms Da-hae West, author of the > English-language cookbook Eat Korean, told AFP. "Because Spam is both > salty and high in fat, it complements the spicy, tangy elements of Korean > food very well - particularly kimchi, as the flavours balance each other > out," she said. > > Spam was introduced to the peninsula by the United States army in the > 1950s, when civilian food supplies were running low - with meat scarce - > during the Korean War. > > South Korea is the second-biggest consumer of Spam after the US, according > to US conglomerate Hormel Foods..." > > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-24140705 == Love the wee dog:) Did he call it Kitty? We call cats Kitty:)) > > "Why is Spam a luxury food in South Korea? > > Asia is celebrating the annual lunar thanksgiving holiday this week. In > South Korea, where it's known as Chuseok, the holiday is celebrated by > visiting family, paying respects to ancestors... and the giving and > receiving of packaged cans of Spam. > > The pre-cooked tins of pork meat are the stuff of jokes, lunch boxes, > wartime memories and, here in South Korea, a low-key, national love > affair. > > Spam has become a staple of South Korean life, and the country is now the > biggest consumer of it outside the US. > > Since Spam was first launched in the US before World War II, more than > seven billion of these chunky little cans have rolled off production > lines - like the ones at Spam's South Korean factory in Chuncheong > Province. > > Here you can find Classic Spam, Mild Spam, Bacon Spam, Garlic Spam€¦. "If > you've got Spam" the slogan on the can proclaims, "you've got it all!" > > So, not for South Korean cans, a dusty shelf at the back of the > supermarket. > > Humble origins > Spam, and its home-grown competitors, are prime gifts for the lunar > thanksgiving holiday, and they are displayed with verve, in lavish > gift-boxes, sometimes topped with ribbon. > > Spam is considered a luxury item, although its origins are humble > The premium Black Label hamper will set you back around $75 (£50). > > "It has Andalucia Olive Oil, and nine tins of Spam," the company's brand > manager, Shin Hyo Eun, explains. > > The only way to get meat in those days was to smuggle it from the army > base > Ho Gi-suk, Restaurant owner > "Spam has a premium image in Korea. It's probably the most desirable gift > one could receive, and to help create the high-class image, we use famous > actors in our commercials. > > "Anyone who gets a Spam gift-set also gets a warm feeling in their heart." > > Spam does have a different image here, compared with the West. Where else > would television commercials show a young couple ditching their romantic > dinner to head home for a plate of Spam? > > But its origins here are much more humble. > > Smuggled spam > > Spam was introduced to Korea by the US army during the Korean War, when > food was scarce - and meat even scarcer. Back then, people used whatever > they could find to make a meal. > > But the appeal of Spam lasted through the years of plenty and it's now so > much a part of South Korean food culture, that it's the staple ingredient > in one of the country's favourite dishes: budae jigae or army stew. > > There are lots of restaurants specialising in it, but the most famous line > one particular street, just around the corner from a US military base. > > One of the restaurants there is run by Ho Gi-suk. > > She claims to have invented Army Stew back in 1954, when someone brought > her smuggled spam, sausages and bacon from the local army base. Mrs Ho > made them into a spicy soup, and the rest is history. > > "Back then," she tells me, "there wasn't a lot to eat. But I acquired some > ham and sausages€¦ the only way to get meat in those days was to smuggle it > from the army base. > > "We had to make do with whatever the soldiers had left over; sometimes it > was turkey, sometimes Spam. We'd make a stew with whatever came out, and > my recipe was copied and spread throughout Korea." > > Army Stew is now well-established as part of South Korea's culinary > landscape - as traditional here as Spam gift-sets for thanksgiving. > > "It's salty, and greasy, and goes very well with the spices," one customer > told me. "Korean soup and American ham - it's the perfect fusion food." > > </> The funny thing about that is that I've never seen Korean army stew served in Hawaii. It's easy enough to make so it might go over good at a party. My guess is that you'd be a popular guy if you made it at parties. I wouldn't do it myself but that's just the kind of crazy stuff that millennials like to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCogEWzGDQQ |
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"cshenk" wrote in message ... Ophelia wrote: > > > "cshenk" wrote in message > ... > > Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 3:08:17 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote: > >> On 2019-02-18 1:56 p.m., wrote: > >> > On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 12:52:19 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > >> > > > >> >> Eating with chopsticks is pretentious? How redneck. I bet you > >> use your >> hands. > >> > > > >> > Don't be stupid. There is no need to eat with chopsticks at home > >> > or in a Chinese restaurant unless you want to show off your > >> > 'skills.' > >> > > >> > I bet you cut up your food using the 'ham fisted' method. > >> > > >> Beats the heck out of me why someone who normally eats with a knife > >> an fork would use chop sticks only when they eat Asian food. > > > > What about someone who normally eats with whatever is convenient > > and appropriate to the food being consumed? I'd never approach > > a whole steak with chopsticks, but see no reason not to use them > > when they're right on the table at the Chinese restaurant. > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > Good one there! I'd cut the steak with a fork and knife, then use > chopsticks if there was a communal dipping sauce bowl, dipping the > meat so that the part touched by my mouth touched, did not hit the > bowl. The othr way is to reverse the chopsticks when dipping, then > put on your plate and reverse again so your mouth slaiva never > touches the contents of a communal dip bowl. > > == > > See? You are obviously expert too! So why the denigration of those > who want to try! I see no reason to not use them if they suit a purpose. I use them when they fit the meal and that may or may not be an 'asian meal'. -- Of course, as everyone else has the right to do too! |
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"cshenk" wrote in message ... Ophelia wrote: > > > "cshenk" wrote in message > ... > > wrote: > > > On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 12:52:19 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > > > >> Eating with chopsticks is pretentious? How redneck. I bet you use > >> your hands. > > > > > Don't be stupid. There is no need to eat with chopsticks at home or > > in a Chinese restaurant unless you want to show off your 'skills.' > > > It's a bit more than that. Once really *used to them* you start to > find they are not only a bit fun, but work better for some foods. > Cooking utensils also change as it's FAR easier to flip some things > with 'cooking chopsticks' such as lumpia, rounmd sausage or spring > roll. > > There is no need for someone not used to them to learn how to use > them, but there is also no reason why someone who grew up with using > them to not use them at home. > > === > > But why can someone not learn to use them if they wish?? > > Sorry but this is getting ridiculous!! It amazes me just how > prescriptive some people are about things that are none of their > business!!! > > Perhaps someone can tell us what else we are and are not allowed to > do? It would be good to know in advance so we don't get it wrong! > > Come on Carol. You are not normally like this! Ophelia, I never said someone can't learn or may not enjoy it if they wish. I only said they do not have to. I suspect some bad chopping other another's comment who said it was pretentious to use them at all. == Yes I noticed you responded to some idiot who said that. It amazes me why anyone thinks they have the right to dictate what others MUST or MUST NOT do! Arrogance beyond comprehension. I am pleased you don't agree! |
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"Ophelia" wrote in message ... "dsi1" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 1:08:51 PM UTC-10, GM wrote: > dsi1 wrote: > > > On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 8:26:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > > --- > > > > > > Pah you are just spoiled <g> > > > > Yes, wherever we may roam, it's tough to get food like we do on this > > rock. My niece from California says there's a Hawaiian place that serves > > chicken katsu in her town. She says there's also 3 places open that > > serve poke. Two of the places are good and one is so-so. That's > > encouraging. :) > > > > For breakfast, my wife had fried pork belly with kim chee. The kim chee > > was unusual, it was aged stuff. The cabbage gets almost gel-like and the > > flavor deepens. We wouldn't normally eat kim chee that old but with the > > pork belly it was pretty wonderful. Oddly enough, kim chee, bacon, bacon > > fat, and rice, is a Korean comfort food. > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5ynavWBupV7HOA > > > Another Korean comfort food is "Army Stew", it is fried Spam, kimchi, and > rice... > > Spam is very popular in South Korea, it arrived with the US soldiers > during the Korean War. Spam in fancy gift boxes is a popular present for > special occasions, a luxury box can cost hundreds of dollars: > > https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...ift-in-s-korea > > > "Spam is no junk meat - it's fit for a gift in South Korea > > JINCHEON, SOUTH KOREA (AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE) - From the front lines of war > to a staple of institutional catering, Spam is rarely seen as a gourmet > ingredient - but the canned pink meat holds a unique position in South > Korea as a top-selling holiday gift. > > Ahead of the Chuseok harvest festival which started yesterday - one of > Korea's biggest celebrations and an occasion for mass family gatherings - > presentation wooden boxes of the blue-and-yellow tins, nestled in packing > straw, line the shelves of both major retailers and local convenience > stores. > > An upmarket black-label pack with six cans of Spam and two bottles of > Andalusian olive oil costs over 90,000 won (S$110), but the most popular > version is a nine-tin set at 30,000 won. > > Office worker Lee Yoon-ho bought five to give acquaintances, calling it > "the most universal" present. "It's affordable and everyone likes it," he > said. "All South Koreans like Spam." > > Spam gift boxes worth a total of around 213 billion won were sold in South > Korea last year - six times as much as in 2008, when the figure was first > recorded. A spokesman for supermarket giant Homeplus said the tinned meat > hampers ranked second, third and fourth in its top-selling products last > Chuseok. > > "In Western countries, Spam is considered a cheap substitute to fresh meat > and people nowadays tend to view it fairly negatively as they associate it > with ration packs and poor quality meat," Ms Da-hae West, author of the > English-language cookbook Eat Korean, told AFP. "Because Spam is both > salty and high in fat, it complements the spicy, tangy elements of Korean > food very well - particularly kimchi, as the flavours balance each other > out," she said. > > Spam was introduced to the peninsula by the United States army in the > 1950s, when civilian food supplies were running low - with meat scarce - > during the Korean War. > > South Korea is the second-biggest consumer of Spam after the US, according > to US conglomerate Hormel Foods..." > > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-24140705 == Love the wee dog:) Did he call it Kitty? We call cats Kitty:)) > > "Why is Spam a luxury food in South Korea? > > Asia is celebrating the annual lunar thanksgiving holiday this week. In > South Korea, where it's known as Chuseok, the holiday is celebrated by > visiting family, paying respects to ancestors... and the giving and > receiving of packaged cans of Spam. > > The pre-cooked tins of pork meat are the stuff of jokes, lunch boxes, > wartime memories and, here in South Korea, a low-key, national love > affair. > > Spam has become a staple of South Korean life, and the country is now the > biggest consumer of it outside the US. > > Since Spam was first launched in the US before World War II, more than > seven billion of these chunky little cans have rolled off production > lines - like the ones at Spam's South Korean factory in Chuncheong > Province. > > Here you can find Classic Spam, Mild Spam, Bacon Spam, Garlic Spam€¦. "If > you've got Spam" the slogan on the can proclaims, "you've got it all!" > > So, not for South Korean cans, a dusty shelf at the back of the > supermarket. > > Humble origins > Spam, and its home-grown competitors, are prime gifts for the lunar > thanksgiving holiday, and they are displayed with verve, in lavish > gift-boxes, sometimes topped with ribbon. > > Spam is considered a luxury item, although its origins are humble > The premium Black Label hamper will set you back around $75 (£50). > > "It has Andalucia Olive Oil, and nine tins of Spam," the company's brand > manager, Shin Hyo Eun, explains. > > The only way to get meat in those days was to smuggle it from the army > base > Ho Gi-suk, Restaurant owner > "Spam has a premium image in Korea. It's probably the most desirable gift > one could receive, and to help create the high-class image, we use famous > actors in our commercials. > > "Anyone who gets a Spam gift-set also gets a warm feeling in their heart." > > Spam does have a different image here, compared with the West. Where else > would television commercials show a young couple ditching their romantic > dinner to head home for a plate of Spam? > > But its origins here are much more humble. > > Smuggled spam > > Spam was introduced to Korea by the US army during the Korean War, when > food was scarce - and meat even scarcer. Back then, people used whatever > they could find to make a meal. > > But the appeal of Spam lasted through the years of plenty and it's now so > much a part of South Korean food culture, that it's the staple ingredient > in one of the country's favourite dishes: budae jigae or army stew. > > There are lots of restaurants specialising in it, but the most famous line > one particular street, just around the corner from a US military base. > > One of the restaurants there is run by Ho Gi-suk. > > She claims to have invented Army Stew back in 1954, when someone brought > her smuggled spam, sausages and bacon from the local army base. Mrs Ho > made them into a spicy soup, and the rest is history. > > "Back then," she tells me, "there wasn't a lot to eat. But I acquired some > ham and sausages€¦ the only way to get meat in those days was to smuggle it > from the army base. > > "We had to make do with whatever the soldiers had left over; sometimes it > was turkey, sometimes Spam. We'd make a stew with whatever came out, and > my recipe was copied and spread throughout Korea." > > Army Stew is now well-established as part of South Korea's culinary > landscape - as traditional here as Spam gift-sets for thanksgiving. > > "It's salty, and greasy, and goes very well with the spices," one customer > told me. "Korean soup and American ham - it's the perfect fusion food." > > </> The funny thing about that is that I've never seen Korean army stew served in Hawaii. It's easy enough to make so it might go over good at a party. My guess is that you'd be a popular guy if you made it at parties. I wouldn't do it myself but that's just the kind of crazy stuff that millennials like to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCogEWzGDQQ == That is one heckuva mix in that!!! |
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Ophelia wrote:
> > "cshenk" wrote: > I see no reason to not use them if they suit a purpose. I use them when > they fit the meal and that may or may not be an 'asian meal'. Yoose (tm by Hank) could easily use chopsticks to eat french fries. :) > > -- > > Of course, as everyone else has the right to do too! I just find it funny how humanity has progressed so far now yet some people still insist on using a pair of sticks to eat their food. Especially ppl that were not raised using them. lol |
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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 10:03:56 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote: > > > > "cshenk" wrote: > > I see no reason to not use them if they suit a purpose. I use them when > > they fit the meal and that may or may not be an 'asian meal'. > > Yoose (tm by Hank) could easily use chopsticks to eat french > fries. :) > > > > -- > > > > Of course, as everyone else has the right to do too! > > I just find it funny how humanity has progressed so far now yet > some people still insist on using a pair of sticks to eat their > food. Especially ppl that were not raised using them. lol A pair of sticks are no more or less primitive than a fork. Before the relatively recent invention of the fork, your ancestors used their fingers or stabbed their food with a knife. Cindy Hamilton |
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"Ophelia" wrote in message ... "dsi1" wrote in message > South Korea is the second-biggest consumer of Spam after the US, according > to US conglomerate Hormel Foods..." > > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-24140705 Love the wee dog:) Did he call it Kitty? We call cats Kitty:)) The funny thing about that is that I've never seen Korean army stew served in Hawaii. It's easy enough to make so it might go over good at a party. My guess is that you'd be a popular guy if you made it at parties. I wouldn't do it myself but that's just the kind of crazy stuff that millennials like to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCogEWzGDQQ That has one heckuva lot of different things in there! |
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Apologies for this one! Not sure what happened. It just got away before I was finished ! :) "Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... "dsi1" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 1:08:51 PM UTC-10, GM wrote: > dsi1 wrote: > > > On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 8:26:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > > --- > > > > > > Pah you are just spoiled <g> > > > > Yes, wherever we may roam, it's tough to get food like we do on this > > rock. My niece from California says there's a Hawaiian place that serves > > chicken katsu in her town. She says there's also 3 places open that > > serve poke. Two of the places are good and one is so-so. That's > > encouraging. :) > > > > For breakfast, my wife had fried pork belly with kim chee. The kim chee > > was unusual, it was aged stuff. The cabbage gets almost gel-like and the > > flavor deepens. We wouldn't normally eat kim chee that old but with the > > pork belly it was pretty wonderful. Oddly enough, kim chee, bacon, bacon > > fat, and rice, is a Korean comfort food. > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5ynavWBupV7HOA > > > Another Korean comfort food is "Army Stew", it is fried Spam, kimchi, and > rice... > > Spam is very popular in South Korea, it arrived with the US soldiers > during the Korean War. Spam in fancy gift boxes is a popular present for > special occasions, a luxury box can cost hundreds of dollars: > > https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...ift-in-s-korea > > > "Spam is no junk meat - it's fit for a gift in South Korea > > JINCHEON, SOUTH KOREA (AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE) - From the front lines of war > to a staple of institutional catering, Spam is rarely seen as a gourmet > ingredient - but the canned pink meat holds a unique position in South > Korea as a top-selling holiday gift. > > Ahead of the Chuseok harvest festival which started yesterday - one of > Korea's biggest celebrations and an occasion for mass family gatherings - > presentation wooden boxes of the blue-and-yellow tins, nestled in packing > straw, line the shelves of both major retailers and local convenience > stores. > > An upmarket black-label pack with six cans of Spam and two bottles of > Andalusian olive oil costs over 90,000 won (S$110), but the most popular > version is a nine-tin set at 30,000 won. > > Office worker Lee Yoon-ho bought five to give acquaintances, calling it > "the most universal" present. "It's affordable and everyone likes it," he > said. "All South Koreans like Spam." > > Spam gift boxes worth a total of around 213 billion won were sold in South > Korea last year - six times as much as in 2008, when the figure was first > recorded. A spokesman for supermarket giant Homeplus said the tinned meat > hampers ranked second, third and fourth in its top-selling products last > Chuseok. > > "In Western countries, Spam is considered a cheap substitute to fresh meat > and people nowadays tend to view it fairly negatively as they associate it > with ration packs and poor quality meat," Ms Da-hae West, author of the > English-language cookbook Eat Korean, told AFP. "Because Spam is both > salty and high in fat, it complements the spicy, tangy elements of Korean > food very well - particularly kimchi, as the flavours balance each other > out," she said. > > Spam was introduced to the peninsula by the United States army in the > 1950s, when civilian food supplies were running low - with meat scarce - > during the Korean War. > > South Korea is the second-biggest consumer of Spam after the US, according > to US conglomerate Hormel Foods..." > > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-24140705 == Love the wee dog:) Did he call it Kitty? We call cats Kitty:)) > > "Why is Spam a luxury food in South Korea? > > Asia is celebrating the annual lunar thanksgiving holiday this week. In > South Korea, where it's known as Chuseok, the holiday is celebrated by > visiting family, paying respects to ancestors... and the giving and > receiving of packaged cans of Spam. > > The pre-cooked tins of pork meat are the stuff of jokes, lunch boxes, > wartime memories and, here in South Korea, a low-key, national love > affair. > > Spam has become a staple of South Korean life, and the country is now the > biggest consumer of it outside the US. > > Since Spam was first launched in the US before World War II, more than > seven billion of these chunky little cans have rolled off production > lines - like the ones at Spam's South Korean factory in Chuncheong > Province. > > Here you can find Classic Spam, Mild Spam, Bacon Spam, Garlic Spam€¦. "If > you've got Spam" the slogan on the can proclaims, "you've got it all!" > > So, not for South Korean cans, a dusty shelf at the back of the > supermarket. > > Humble origins > Spam, and its home-grown competitors, are prime gifts for the lunar > thanksgiving holiday, and they are displayed with verve, in lavish > gift-boxes, sometimes topped with ribbon. > > Spam is considered a luxury item, although its origins are humble > The premium Black Label hamper will set you back around $75 (£50). > > "It has Andalucia Olive Oil, and nine tins of Spam," the company's brand > manager, Shin Hyo Eun, explains. > > The only way to get meat in those days was to smuggle it from the army > base > Ho Gi-suk, Restaurant owner > "Spam has a premium image in Korea. It's probably the most desirable gift > one could receive, and to help create the high-class image, we use famous > actors in our commercials. > > "Anyone who gets a Spam gift-set also gets a warm feeling in their heart." > > Spam does have a different image here, compared with the West. Where else > would television commercials show a young couple ditching their romantic > dinner to head home for a plate of Spam? > > But its origins here are much more humble. > > Smuggled spam > > Spam was introduced to Korea by the US army during the Korean War, when > food was scarce - and meat even scarcer. Back then, people used whatever > they could find to make a meal. > > But the appeal of Spam lasted through the years of plenty and it's now so > much a part of South Korean food culture, that it's the staple ingredient > in one of the country's favourite dishes: budae jigae or army stew. > > There are lots of restaurants specialising in it, but the most famous line > one particular street, just around the corner from a US military base. > > One of the restaurants there is run by Ho Gi-suk. > > She claims to have invented Army Stew back in 1954, when someone brought > her smuggled spam, sausages and bacon from the local army base. Mrs Ho > made them into a spicy soup, and the rest is history. > > "Back then," she tells me, "there wasn't a lot to eat. But I acquired some > ham and sausages€¦ the only way to get meat in those days was to smuggle it > from the army base. > > "We had to make do with whatever the soldiers had left over; sometimes it > was turkey, sometimes Spam. We'd make a stew with whatever came out, and > my recipe was copied and spread throughout Korea." > > Army Stew is now well-established as part of South Korea's culinary > landscape - as traditional here as Spam gift-sets for thanksgiving. > > "It's salty, and greasy, and goes very well with the spices," one customer > told me. "Korean soup and American ham - it's the perfect fusion food." > > </> The funny thing about that is that I've never seen Korean army stew served in Hawaii. It's easy enough to make so it might go over good at a party. My guess is that you'd be a popular guy if you made it at parties. I wouldn't do it myself but that's just the kind of crazy stuff that millennials like to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCogEWzGDQQ == That is one heckuva mix in that!!! |
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > A pair of sticks are no more or less primitive than a fork. Oh yes they are, timewise. > > Before the relatively recent invention of the fork, your ancestors > used their fingers or stabbed their food with a knife. Do you see anything wrong with that? If so, then why did they (and YOU) switch to eating with twigs? the old sticks have been replaced by more useful utensils now. Many primitive earthlings still sit on the floor and eat with their hands. Many still eat raw food like before fire and cooking was invented. All of those oldest people are dead now and they all died at a very young age. I see no reason to mimick their ancient ways. Respect our history but not try to recreate. Joan was correct, imo. Using chopsticks by modern people that didn't grow up using them, is just a showoff dumb thing to so unless you use them all the time for every meal. You work with computers. Do you use an abacus for work? That's the old ancient way too. Still use a slide rule? Doubtful. Note: I love ya, Cindy. Please don't get mad at my opposite opinions. :) |
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> > Apologies for this one! Not sure what happened. > It just got away before I was finished ! :) What would Janet UK have to say about this? ;) |
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Janet wrote:
> > says... > > > I just find it funny how humanity has progressed so far now yet > > some people still insist on using a pair of sticks to eat their > > food. Especially ppl that were not raised using them. lol > > > No doubt you were raised to drink from a teat and shit in your > nappy, but now you drink from a cup and crap in a toilet. > > Your mother might admire your progress but she's still hoping you'll > grow up one day. > > Janet UK Hi there, Janet of the UK version: Your response actually makes no sense. Using chopsticks today would be comparable to still pooping in diapers many years ago. It worked at the time but then we learn a better way. Perhaps I should quit my toilet and start using adult diapers? Sadly, that might end up happening but thankfully not yet. |
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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 10:45:03 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > A pair of sticks are no more or less primitive than a fork. > > Oh yes they are, timewise. Can you provide quantitative evidence of this assertion? > > > > Before the relatively recent invention of the fork, your ancestors > > used their fingers or stabbed their food with a knife. > > Do you see anything wrong with that? If so, then why did they > (and YOU) switch to eating with twigs? Your ancestors never switched to twigs. They switched to the fork after it was invented. > the old sticks have been > replaced by more useful utensils now. No. The sticks are still in use in the area where they were invented. > Many primitive earthlings > still sit on the floor and eat with their hands. Many still eat > raw food like before fire and cooking was invented. All of those > oldest people are dead now and they all died at a very young age. > I see no reason to mimick their ancient ways. > > Respect our history but not try to recreate. Joan was correct, > imo. Using chopsticks by modern people that didn't grow up using > them, is just a showoff dumb thing to so unless you use them all > the time for every meal. > > You work with computers. Do you use an abacus for work? That's > the old ancient way too. Still use a slide rule? Doubtful. I don't use an abacus at work, but sometimes I do arithmetic in my head. It's just quicker. Not every invention is an advancement. > Note: I love ya, Cindy. Please don't get mad at my opposite > opinions. :) Not mad, as such, except when you are judgmental about what other people use. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 09:47:40 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 10:45:03 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote: >> Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> > >> > A pair of sticks are no more or less primitive than a fork. >> >> Oh yes they are, timewise. > >Can you provide quantitative evidence of this assertion? Gary don't do that. Gary only works with gut feelings. |
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"Gary" wrote in message ... Ophelia wrote: > > Apologies for this one! Not sure what happened. > It just got away before I was finished ! :) What would Janet UK have to say about this? ;) === Why the hell would I care!!!!!!!!! LOLOL |
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"Gary" wrote in message ... Respect our history but not try to recreate. Joan was correct, imo. Using chopsticks by modern people that didn't grow up using them, is just a showoff dumb thing to so unless you use them all the time for every meal. -- Ahhh THAT is where it came from??? Huh no surprises there then! |
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:03:27 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > >"Gary" wrote in message ... > > >Respect our history but not try to recreate. Joan was correct, >imo. Using chopsticks by modern people that didn't grow up using >them, is just a showoff dumb thing to so unless you use them all >the time for every meal. They make it way too complicated. Just use what you feel like, I'd say. |
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"Bruce" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:03:27 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote: > > >"Gary" wrote in message ... > > >Respect our history but not try to recreate. Joan was correct, >imo. Using chopsticks by modern people that didn't grow up using >them, is just a showoff dumb thing to so unless you use them all >the time for every meal. They make it way too complicated. Just use what you feel like, I'd say. == Halleluja!!!!! At last! The voice of common sense and reason. Really, what one person prefers is absolutely NOTHING to do with anyone else unless it affects them. If they can show how it affects them I will listen, until then, they can bugger off!!! |
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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 1:04:32 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 1:08:51 PM UTC-10, GM wrote: > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 8:26:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > > > --- > > > > > > > > Pah you are just spoiled <g> > > > > > > Yes, wherever we may roam, it's tough to get food like we do on this > > > rock. My niece from California says there's a Hawaiian place that serves > > > chicken katsu in her town. She says there's also 3 places open that > > > serve poke. Two of the places are good and one is so-so. That's > > > encouraging. :) > > > > > > For breakfast, my wife had fried pork belly with kim chee. The kim chee > > > was unusual, it was aged stuff. The cabbage gets almost gel-like and the > > > flavor deepens. We wouldn't normally eat kim chee that old but with the > > > pork belly it was pretty wonderful. Oddly enough, kim chee, bacon, bacon > > > fat, and rice, is a Korean comfort food. > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5ynavWBupV7HOA > > > > > > Another Korean comfort food is "Army Stew", it is fried Spam, kimchi, and > > rice... > > > > Spam is very popular in South Korea, it arrived with the US soldiers > > during the Korean War. Spam in fancy gift boxes is a popular present for > > special occasions, a luxury box can cost hundreds of dollars: > > > > https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...ift-in-s-korea > > > > > > "Spam is no junk meat - it's fit for a gift in South Korea > > > > JINCHEON, SOUTH KOREA (AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE) - From the front lines of war > > to a staple of institutional catering, Spam is rarely seen as a gourmet > > ingredient - but the canned pink meat holds a unique position in South > > Korea as a top-selling holiday gift. > > > > Ahead of the Chuseok harvest festival which started yesterday - one of > > Korea's biggest celebrations and an occasion for mass family gatherings - > > presentation wooden boxes of the blue-and-yellow tins, nestled in packing > > straw, line the shelves of both major retailers and local convenience > > stores. > > > > An upmarket black-label pack with six cans of Spam and two bottles of > > Andalusian olive oil costs over 90,000 won (S$110), but the most popular > > version is a nine-tin set at 30,000 won. > > > > Office worker Lee Yoon-ho bought five to give acquaintances, calling it > > "the most universal" present. "It's affordable and everyone likes it," he > > said. "All South Koreans like Spam." > > > > Spam gift boxes worth a total of around 213 billion won were sold in South > > Korea last year - six times as much as in 2008, when the figure was first > > recorded. A spokesman for supermarket giant Homeplus said the tinned meat > > hampers ranked second, third and fourth in its top-selling products last > > Chuseok. > > > > "In Western countries, Spam is considered a cheap substitute to fresh meat > > and people nowadays tend to view it fairly negatively as they associate it > > with ration packs and poor quality meat," Ms Da-hae West, author of the > > English-language cookbook Eat Korean, told AFP. "Because Spam is both > > salty and high in fat, it complements the spicy, tangy elements of Korean > > food very well - particularly kimchi, as the flavours balance each other > > out," she said. > > > > Spam was introduced to the peninsula by the United States army in the > > 1950s, when civilian food supplies were running low - with meat scarce - > > during the Korean War. > > > > South Korea is the second-biggest consumer of Spam after the US, according > > to US conglomerate Hormel Foods..." > > > > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-24140705 > > == > > Love the wee dog:) Did he call it Kitty? We call cats Kitty:)) > > > > > > "Why is Spam a luxury food in South Korea? > > > > Asia is celebrating the annual lunar thanksgiving holiday this week. In > > South Korea, where it's known as Chuseok, the holiday is celebrated by > > visiting family, paying respects to ancestors... and the giving and > > receiving of packaged cans of Spam. > > > > The pre-cooked tins of pork meat are the stuff of jokes, lunch boxes, > > wartime memories and, here in South Korea, a low-key, national love > > affair. > > > > Spam has become a staple of South Korean life, and the country is now the > > biggest consumer of it outside the US. > > > > Since Spam was first launched in the US before World War II, more than > > seven billion of these chunky little cans have rolled off production > > lines - like the ones at Spam's South Korean factory in Chuncheong > > Province. > > > > Here you can find Classic Spam, Mild Spam, Bacon Spam, Garlic Spam€¦. "If > > you've got Spam" the slogan on the can proclaims, "you've got it all!" > > > > So, not for South Korean cans, a dusty shelf at the back of the > > supermarket. > > > > Humble origins > > Spam, and its home-grown competitors, are prime gifts for the lunar > > thanksgiving holiday, and they are displayed with verve, in lavish > > gift-boxes, sometimes topped with ribbon. > > > > Spam is considered a luxury item, although its origins are humble > > The premium Black Label hamper will set you back around $75 (£50). > > > > "It has Andalucia Olive Oil, and nine tins of Spam," the company's brand > > manager, Shin Hyo Eun, explains. > > > > The only way to get meat in those days was to smuggle it from the army > > base > > Ho Gi-suk, Restaurant owner > > "Spam has a premium image in Korea. It's probably the most desirable gift > > one could receive, and to help create the high-class image, we use famous > > actors in our commercials. > > > > "Anyone who gets a Spam gift-set also gets a warm feeling in their heart." > > > > Spam does have a different image here, compared with the West. Where else > > would television commercials show a young couple ditching their romantic > > dinner to head home for a plate of Spam? > > > > But its origins here are much more humble. > > > > Smuggled spam > > > > Spam was introduced to Korea by the US army during the Korean War, when > > food was scarce - and meat even scarcer. Back then, people used whatever > > they could find to make a meal. > > > > But the appeal of Spam lasted through the years of plenty and it's now so > > much a part of South Korean food culture, that it's the staple ingredient > > in one of the country's favourite dishes: budae jigae or army stew. > > > > There are lots of restaurants specialising in it, but the most famous line > > one particular street, just around the corner from a US military base. > > > > One of the restaurants there is run by Ho Gi-suk. > > > > She claims to have invented Army Stew back in 1954, when someone brought > > her smuggled spam, sausages and bacon from the local army base. Mrs Ho > > made them into a spicy soup, and the rest is history. > > > > "Back then," she tells me, "there wasn't a lot to eat. But I acquired some > > ham and sausages€¦ the only way to get meat in those days was to smuggle it > > from the army base. > > > > "We had to make do with whatever the soldiers had left over; sometimes it > > was turkey, sometimes Spam. We'd make a stew with whatever came out, and > > my recipe was copied and spread throughout Korea." > > > > Army Stew is now well-established as part of South Korea's culinary > > landscape - as traditional here as Spam gift-sets for thanksgiving. > > > > "It's salty, and greasy, and goes very well with the spices," one customer > > told me. "Korean soup and American ham - it's the perfect fusion food." > > > > </> > > The funny thing about that is that I've never seen Korean army stew served > in Hawaii. It's easy enough to make so it might go over good at a party. My > guess is that you'd be a popular guy if you made it at parties. I wouldn't > do it myself but that's just the kind of crazy stuff that millennials like > to do. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCogEWzGDQQ Asians are just plain weird but I like the way that guy laughs. If I had a laugh like that, it would be like my trademark. People would know me by my laugh. Unfortunately, I just have a plain regular boring laugh. This makes me sad. |
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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:03:56 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote: > > > > "cshenk" wrote: > > I see no reason to not use them if they suit a purpose. I use them when > > they fit the meal and that may or may not be an 'asian meal'. > > Yoose (tm by Hank) could easily use chopsticks to eat french > fries. :) > > > > -- > > > > Of course, as everyone else has the right to do too! > > I just find it funny how humanity has progressed so far now yet > some people still insist on using a pair of sticks to eat their > food. Especially ppl that were not raised using them. lol In the future, everyone will eat with chopsticks. It's trendy to eat Cheetos with chopsticks. Why? So you don't get all that orange crap on your fingers! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFJF2CRASRM |
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Gary > wrote:
> Janet wrote: >> >> says... >> >>> I just find it funny how humanity has progressed so far now yet >>> some people still insist on using a pair of sticks to eat their >>> food. Especially ppl that were not raised using them. lol >>> >> No doubt you were raised to drink from a teat and shit in your >> nappy, but now you drink from a cup and crap in a toilet. >> >> Your mother might admire your progress but she's still hoping you'll >> grow up one day. >> >> Janet UK > > Hi there, Janet of the UK version: > Your response actually makes no sense. Using chopsticks today > would be comparable to still pooping in diapers many years ago. > It worked at the time but then we learn a better way. > > Perhaps I should quit my toilet and start using adult diapers? > Sadly, that might end up happening but thankfully not yet. > Actually, many people in this world would argue that eating with their hands (yes, hands!) is the most efficient way to eat, and works better than knife and fork, or even chopstick. |
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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:45:03 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > A pair of sticks are no more or less primitive than a fork. > > Oh yes they are, timewise. > > > > Before the relatively recent invention of the fork, your ancestors > > used their fingers or stabbed their food with a knife. > > Do you see anything wrong with that? If so, then why did they > (and YOU) switch to eating with twigs? the old sticks have been > replaced by more useful utensils now. Many primitive earthlings > still sit on the floor and eat with their hands. Many still eat > raw food like before fire and cooking was invented. All of those > oldest people are dead now and they all died at a very young age. > I see no reason to mimick their ancient ways. > > Respect our history but not try to recreate. Joan was correct, > imo. Using chopsticks by modern people that didn't grow up using > them, is just a showoff dumb thing to so unless you use them all > the time for every meal. > > You work with computers. Do you use an abacus for work? That's > the old ancient way too. Still use a slide rule? Doubtful. > > Note: I love ya, Cindy. Please don't get mad at my opposite > opinions. :) Some white folks will see it as an erosion of white culture and resent it. Some Asians will see it as cultural appropriation and resent it. As it goes, it's the seemingly small, unimportant things that people make a big deal of, ain't it? As it goes, eating a bowl of ramen or saimin with a fork just don't seem right to me. Eating spaghetti with chopsticks would not be right either. Any culturally savvy person would know this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQBIj1aw_UA |
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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 3:21:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:03:56 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > > "cshenk" wrote: > > > I see no reason to not use them if they suit a purpose. I use them when > > > they fit the meal and that may or may not be an 'asian meal'. > > > > Yoose (tm by Hank) could easily use chopsticks to eat french > > fries. :) > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Of course, as everyone else has the right to do too! > > > > I just find it funny how humanity has progressed so far now yet > > some people still insist on using a pair of sticks to eat their > > food. Especially ppl that were not raised using them. lol > > In the future, everyone will eat with chopsticks. It's trendy to eat Cheetos with chopsticks. Why? So you don't get all that orange crap on your fingers! > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFJF2CRASRM I thought people in the future were going to eat food pills or something. No utensils required. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 16:32:00 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>In article >, says... > >> I just find it funny how humanity has progressed so far now yet >> some people still insist on using a pair of sticks to eat their >> food. Especially ppl that were not raised using them. lol >> > No doubt you were raised to drink from a teat and shit in your >nappy, but now you drink from a cup and crap in a toilet. > >Your mother might admire your progress but she's still hoping you'll >grow up one day. > > Janet UK What progress, no progress... he still can't afford to feed a ferret let alone himself. Don't hold your breath... until Gary's last breath he'll be all on his lonesome in some fercocktah Apartment/Flat barely surviving by dumpster diving at McD's, and still periodcally be on dial up between evictions. His mom warned him how paint fumes will rob him of a normal personna.... he started off sniffing his mom's nail polish remover... at least he didn't paint his nails pink,... not that we know. LOL |
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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 10:22:07 AM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> Gary > wrote: > > Janet wrote: > >> > >> says... > >> > >>> I just find it funny how humanity has progressed so far now yet > >>> some people still insist on using a pair of sticks to eat their > >>> food. Especially ppl that were not raised using them. lol > >>> > >> No doubt you were raised to drink from a teat and shit in your > >> nappy, but now you drink from a cup and crap in a toilet. > >> > >> Your mother might admire your progress but she's still hoping you'll > >> grow up one day. > >> > >> Janet UK > > > > Hi there, Janet of the UK version: > > Your response actually makes no sense. Using chopsticks today > > would be comparable to still pooping in diapers many years ago. > > It worked at the time but then we learn a better way. > > > > Perhaps I should quit my toilet and start using adult diapers? > > Sadly, that might end up happening but thankfully not yet. > > > > Actually, many people in this world would argue that eating with their > hands (yes, hands!) is the most efficient way to eat, and works better than > knife and fork, or even chopstick. Heck yeah, you're right about that. Eating with your hands puts you in direct contact with the food you eat. Using a fork or chopstick separates you from your food - they are the condoms of the food world. I was at a restaurant where you ate with your hands. Afterwards, they passed around a basin and poured water on your hands to clean them. Since we were sitting/laying on cushions, I fell into a slumber soon afterwards but was awakened with a splash of orange blossom water. The experience was dreamlike. https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...KsgbRu8O4qd2ja |
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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 10:37:40 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 3:21:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > > On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:03:56 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > > > > "cshenk" wrote: > > > > I see no reason to not use them if they suit a purpose. I use them when > > > > they fit the meal and that may or may not be an 'asian meal'. > > > > > > Yoose (tm by Hank) could easily use chopsticks to eat french > > > fries. :) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Of course, as everyone else has the right to do too! > > > > > > I just find it funny how humanity has progressed so far now yet > > > some people still insist on using a pair of sticks to eat their > > > food. Especially ppl that were not raised using them. lol > > > > In the future, everyone will eat with chopsticks. It's trendy to eat Cheetos with chopsticks. Why? So you don't get all that orange crap on your fingers! > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFJF2CRASRM > > I thought people in the future were going to eat food pills or > something. No utensils required. > > Cindy Hamilton Why yes, of course. https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...g?format=1500w |
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 12:31:57 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote: >On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:45:03 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: >> Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> > >> > A pair of sticks are no more or less primitive than a fork. >> >> Oh yes they are, timewise. >> > >> > Before the relatively recent invention of the fork, your ancestors >> > used their fingers or stabbed their food with a knife. >> >> Do you see anything wrong with that? If so, then why did they >> (and YOU) switch to eating with twigs? the old sticks have been >> replaced by more useful utensils now. Many primitive earthlings >> still sit on the floor and eat with their hands. Many still eat >> raw food like before fire and cooking was invented. All of those >> oldest people are dead now and they all died at a very young age. >> I see no reason to mimick their ancient ways. >> >> Respect our history but not try to recreate. Joan was correct, >> imo. Using chopsticks by modern people that didn't grow up using >> them, is just a showoff dumb thing to so unless you use them all >> the time for every meal. >> >> You work with computers. Do you use an abacus for work? That's >> the old ancient way too. Still use a slide rule? Doubtful. >> >> Note: I love ya, Cindy. Please don't get mad at my opposite >> opinions. :) > >Some white folks will see it as an erosion of white culture and resent it. Some Asians will see it as cultural appropriation and resent it. As it goes, it's the seemingly small, unimportant things that people make a big deal of, ain't it? > >As it goes, eating a bowl of ramen or saimin with a fork just don't seem right to me. Eating spaghetti with chopsticks would not be right either. Any culturally savvy person would know this. > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQBIj1aw_UA I hereby give you white permission to eat spaghetti with chopsticks. |
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:47:23 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > >"Bruce" wrote in message ... > >On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:03:27 -0000, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > >> >> >>"Gary" wrote in message ... >> >> >>Respect our history but not try to recreate. Joan was correct, >>imo. Using chopsticks by modern people that didn't grow up using >>them, is just a showoff dumb thing to so unless you use them all >>the time for every meal. > >They make it way too complicated. Just use what you feel like, I'd >say. > >== > >Halleluja!!!!! At last! The voice of common sense and reason. > >Really, what one person prefers is absolutely NOTHING to do with anyone else >unless it affects them. > >If they can show how it affects them I will listen, until then, they can >bugger off!!! LOL |
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