Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 1/21/2019 11:05 PM, Cheri wrote:
> >"cshenk" > wrote in message speaking of grab bars
> >
> > > I have one at the back of my shower/tub and an over the tub rim
> > > handrail from Amazon.* I have though of adding one to the back of
> > > the tub and one by the showerhead.
> >
> >
> > I have a handrail on the tub rim too, I love it.
> >
> > Cheri
> Yes, we had one before we remodeled in the old house and eliminated
> the tub. This time we had the second bath made with just a shower
> too. Last time a tub was used in our house was shen my youngest
> granddaughter stayed with us. She was 4 at the time, now 22. I see
> no reason to climb over a tub if it is never going to be used.

Smile, I would die without a bubble bath.

On 1/24/2019 8:46 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 1/21/2019 11:05 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message speaking of grab bars
>>>
>>>> I have one at the back of my shower/tub and an over the tub rim
>>>> handrail from Amazon.Â* I have though of adding one to the back of
>>>> the tub and one by the showerhead.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a handrail on the tub rim too, I love it.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>> Yes, we had one before we remodeled in the old house and eliminated
>> the tub. This time we had the second bath made with just a shower
>> too. Last time a tub was used in our house was shen my youngest
>> granddaughter stayed with us. She was 4 at the time, now 22. I see
>> no reason to climb over a tub if it is never going to be used.
>
> Smile, I would die without a bubble bath.
>

When we listed out house for sale I was wondering if no tub would be a
problem. Only one person mentioned it. The original was just a
standard 5 foot fiberglass tub. In your case, it should be a big deep
tub to get comfy in.

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:09:17 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> When we listed out house for sale I was wondering if no tub would be a
> problem. Only one person mentioned it. The original was just a
> standard 5 foot fiberglass tub. In your case, it should be a big deep
> tub to get comfy in.
>
I think about the only ones really, really wanting a tub are parents with small
children so they can supervise bath time. But I do enjoy an occasional soak
myself, thus I have tubs. When I remodeled the original bathroom here I opted
for a walk-in tub.

On 2019-01-24 11:27 p.m., wrote:
> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:09:17 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> When we listed out house for sale I was wondering if no tub would be a
>> problem. Only one person mentioned it. The original was just a
>> standard 5 foot fiberglass tub. In your case, it should be a big deep
>> tub to get comfy in.
>>
> I think about the only ones really, really wanting a tub are parents with small
> children so they can supervise bath time. But I do enjoy an occasional soak
> myself, thus I have tubs. When I remodeled the original bathroom here I opted
> for a walk-in tub.
>

About once I week I like to soak in a nice hot bath. I suppose I could
live with a walk in shower and no bath. I would not be happy with the
sort of shower stall arrangements that I have seen in hotels and private
homes in Denmark. They were were usually in the corner of the bathroom
and the floor was sloped over to it and there is a floor length shower
curtain. Some of them had a hint of a lip around the shower stall.

After more than 24 hours of travel to get to my hotel there I went to my
room to freshen up before meting my friends for lunch. Since I as having
a quick shower I left my clothes on the bathroom floor. Big mistake.
They were soaked.

On 1/24/2019 11:48 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-01-24 11:27 p.m., wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:09:17 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> When we listed out house for sale I was wondering if no tub would be a
>>> problem.Â* Only one person mentioned it.Â* The original was just a
>>> standard 5 foot fiberglass tub.Â* In your case, it should be a big deep
>>> tub to get comfy in.
>>>
>> I think about the only ones really, really wanting a tub are parents
>> with small
>> children so they can supervise bath time.Â* But I do enjoy an
>> occasional soak
>> myself, thus I have tubs.Â* When I remodeled the original bathroom here
>> I opted
>> for a walk-in tub.
>>
>
> About once I week I like to soak in a nice hot bath. I suppose I could
> live with a walk in shower and no bath.Â*Â* I would not be happy with the
> sort of shower stall arrangements that I have seen in hotels and private
> homes in Denmark.Â* They were were usually in the corner of the bathroom
> and the floor was sloped over to it andÂ* there is a floor length shower
> curtain. Some of them had a hint of a lip around the shower stall.
>
> After more than 24 hours of travel to get to my hotel there I went to my
> room to freshen up before meting my friends for lunch. Since I as having
> a quick shower I left my clothes on the bathroom floor. Big mistake.
> They were soaked.
>

Showers in Europe are no more than a phone booth at best.

The master bath here is a walk in, no door. There is a 1" drop at the
entry. Controls are near the entry so you can turn the water on and not
get wet. I just pull the handle out the the temperature is the same
every time.

The other is a 60" in the same footprint as a tub. You have to step
over a lip of a couple inches and the doors slide.

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 11:48:19 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-01-24 11:27 p.m., wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:09:17 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>
> >> When we listed out house for sale I was wondering if no tub would be a
> >> problem. Only one person mentioned it. The original was just a
> >> standard 5 foot fiberglass tub. In your case, it should be a big deep
> >> tub to get comfy in.
> >>
> > I think about the only ones really, really wanting a tub are parents with small
> > children so they can supervise bath time. But I do enjoy an occasional soak
> > myself, thus I have tubs. When I remodeled the original bathroom here I opted
> > for a walk-in tub.
> >
>
> About once I week I like to soak in a nice hot bath. I suppose I could
> live with a walk in shower and no bath. I would not be happy with the
> sort of shower stall arrangements that I have seen in hotels and private
> homes in Denmark. They were were usually in the corner of the bathroom
> and the floor was sloped over to it and there is a floor length shower
> curtain. Some of them had a hint of a lip around the shower stall.

I would love that. My ideal bathroom would be a one-piece extrusion
with a watertight boot that can come down over the toilet paper and
a self-serve carwash style nozzle in the ceiling. Jet spray the whole
bathroom, squeegee the water down the drain, and voila!

Cindy Hamilton

On 1/24/2019 11:27 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:09:17 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> When we listed out house for sale I was wondering if no tub would be a
>> problem. Only one person mentioned it. The original was just a
>> standard 5 foot fiberglass tub. In your case, it should be a big deep
>> tub to get comfy in.
>>
> I think about the only ones really, really wanting a tub are parents with small
> children so they can supervise bath time. But I do enjoy an occasional soak
> myself, thus I have tubs. When I remodeled the original bathroom here I opted
> for a walk-in tub.
>

If you like a bath, the walk in makes a lot of sense. Even with grab
bars, stepping over a tub can be a danger, even impossible for some.

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 10:52:01 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> If you like a bath, the walk in makes a lot of sense. Even with grab
> bars, stepping over a tub can be a danger, even impossible for some.
>
I do like a bath occasionally and the walk-in also has the water jets. The tub
I opted for has the lowest step-over on the market at 2 inches. But for anyone
wheelchair bound that could still be a problem.

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 23:51:59 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>>
> If you like a bath, the walk in makes a lot of sense. Even with grab
> bars, stepping over a tub can be a danger, even impossible for some.

I had never heard of a 'walk in bathtub' before this thread - so I
googled. From what I saw on various sites/pics, one would have to sit in
there while filling it and then wait until all (or 99%) of the water
drains out before opening the door.... I don't have the patience for that
LOL. Not to mention I would freeze in winter while waiting for the thing
to fill up. (No central heating here).

Also I would be wary about water leakage through the door seals. The
water where we live is very 'hard' and we have to contend with calcium
build-up in the shower head, all our faucets and related plumbing - so we
have to clean and/or change rubber washers/seals on the faucets and
toilet cistern mechanisms, etc. more often than most. By the looks of it,
these tubs are rather pricey too.

But I suppose if one can afford it, and doesn't mind the wait, it would
suit some people.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 23:51:59 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>>
>> If you like a bath, the walk in makes a lot of sense. Even with grab
>> bars, stepping over a tub can be a danger, even impossible for some.
>
> I had never heard of a 'walk in bathtub' before this thread - so I
> googled. From what I saw on various sites/pics, one would have to sit in
> there while filling it and then wait until all (or 99%) of the water
> drains out before opening the door.... I don't have the patience for that
> LOL. Not to mention I would freeze in winter while waiting for the thing
> to fill up. (No central heating here).
>
> Also I would be wary about water leakage through the door seals. The
> water where we live is very 'hard' and we have to contend with calcium
> build-up in the shower head, all our faucets and related plumbing - so we
> have to clean and/or change rubber washers/seals on the faucets and
> toilet cistern mechanisms, etc. more often than most. By the looks of it,
> these tubs are rather pricey too.
>
> But I suppose if one can afford it, and doesn't mind the wait, it would
> suit some people.
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy


I don't think it would be feasible in drought areas either, but then I don't
really know how much water it takes.

Cheri

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 ChattyCathy wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> If you like a bath, the walk in makes a lot of sense. Even with grab
>> bars, stepping over a tub can be a danger, even impossible for some.
>
>I had never heard of a 'walk in bathtub' before this thread - so I
>googled. From what I saw on various sites/pics, one would have to sit in
>there while filling it and then wait until all (or 99%) of the water
>drains out before opening the door.... I don't have the patience for that
>LOL. Not to mention I would freeze in winter while waiting for the thing
>to fill up. (No central heating here).
>
>Also I would be wary about water leakage through the door seals. The
>water where we live is very 'hard' and we have to contend with calcium
>build-up in the shower head, all our faucets and related plumbing - so we
>have to clean and/or change rubber washers/seals on the faucets and
>toilet cistern mechanisms, etc. more often than most. By the looks of it,
>these tubs are rather pricey too.
>
>But I suppose if one can afford it, and doesn't mind the wait, it would
>suit some people.

I wouldn't like having to sit in the tub until it fills and drains.
We have an over sized tub, it's extra deep and exta wide from
Bathfitters, of some sort of space age plastic with a molded in padded
bottom at the rear third. The last owners had it installed, because
she's a soaker, they had a new home built and put a spa tub in their
basement. We don't take soaking baths we prefer showers so I installed
a fancy schmancy shower head that has several spray selections
including a powerful pulsating jet that I like very much for my back.
Neither of us likes soaking in our dirty bathwater.
If you have hard water like our well water you need a water softener,
totally ended all the nasty deposits. Softened water feels very
sexually arousing too, you will have trouble stopping touching your
body, your skin will feel like slippery silk. Also softened water is
a must for doing laundry, washing clothes in hard water is like not
washing them at all. A water softener costs little and very little to
maintain... a 40# sack of salt about every six weeks only costs $6, a
very small price to eliminate all those nasty calcium deposits. Not
only does laundry wash much better so do dishes, and especially
shampooing your hair, you won't need conditioner. All our water is
softened except outside hose bibs, but we have one hose bib right at
the garage door with softened tempered water so we can wash the salt
off the cars in winter with warm water, and no water spots ever.
Washing everything with softened water makes a very noticeable
difference, soap lathers like it's supposed to, even toothpaste works
smuch better. All our water also passes through a UV light chamber,
kills bacteria and viruses,,, cuts way down on colds and visits to the
Dermatologist. Our A/C duct has a state of the art Aprilair filter
and also has a UV lamp installed. With the AprilAir filter we never
open windows, we have no screens to collect pollen and schmutz, I
detest looking through screens, especialy dirty screens... the
filtering chamber can be adjusted to let in a percentage of outside
air, sort of like how high end cars have a cabin filter only this is
better. The A/C filter works 24/7, even in winter, when the system
doesn't call for cool the blower motor switches to low speed. With
the Aprilair filter there's only one filter element, needs to be
replaced every two years, $40.. the A/C service guy changes the filter
and the UV lamps. The UV lamps are a bit pricey, about $100 each and
we have three. two for the A/C and one for the water. They may not be
burned out but still need changing every two years as after a while
the UV emission becomes progressively weaker, plus they need proper
disposal, UV lamps contain mercury.... $10 per lamp. Some choose to
do the servic e themselves and toss the old bulbs in their trash but I
have a professional service the A/C and another professional service
the water softener and the RO filter. He tests the water hardness and
adjusts the salt meter to suit, with well water hardness is constantly
changing due to underground flumes changing. He also takes samples to
have tested at an independant lab.
The air one breathes and the water one uses is very important to one's
health.... we believe clean water and clean air extends one's life.
People would be much better off spending the money they waste on the
organic foods scam for better water and air... organic food is most
definately a scam, as is bottled water. I grow most of my own veggies
and use no chemferts or insecticides yet so long as there's
precipitation, runoff, and gravity organic farming is IMPOSSIBLE...
unless grown in a hot house under laboratory clean room conditions.

On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 7:10:09 AM UTC-6, Chatty Cathy wrote:
>
> I had never heard of a 'walk in bathtub' before this thread - so I
> googled. From what I saw on various sites/pics, one would have to sit in
> there while filling it and then wait until all (or 99%) of the water
> drains out before opening the door.... I don't have the patience for that
> LOL. Not to mention I would freeze in winter while waiting for the thing
> to fill up. (No central heating here).
>
You can buy models that have a 'power drain.' They're guaranteed to drain the
water in about 90 seconds. Also, you can buy them that have a heater to keep
the water warm while you are in the tub.
>
> Also I would be wary about water leakage through the door seals. The
> water where we live is very 'hard' and we have to contend with calcium
> build-up in the shower head, all our faucets and related plumbing - so we
> have to clean and/or change rubber washers/seals on the faucets and
> toilet cistern mechanisms, etc. more often than most. By the looks of it,
> these tubs are rather pricey too.
>
I've experienced absolutely no leakage around my door but I don't know what
hard water would do to the seals on these.

Yes, these tubs can be quite pricey. The Safe-Step tub that is sold here has
not been sold for less than $11,000 installed. I had my bathroom completely
remodeled for $12,578. What ****ed me off when inquiring about a Safe-Step
tub is they will absolutely NOT give a quote for the tub and it's installation.
They insist on coming to your house to give a quote and in hopes of selling
you one. Joan doesn't play that game.
>
> But I suppose if one can afford it, and doesn't mind the wait, it would
> suit some people.
>
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy
>
It's not often that I fill my walk-in tub as it holds 65 gallons of water but
it does drain fast without the power drain.