On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 10:20:44 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-12-10 9:35 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 12/10/2018 11:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2018-12-10 9:36 a.m., wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:13:05 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> eplied with "It isn't here, tip comes before tax."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you came back with the information about the bill that showed the
>>>>>> cost of the meal followed by the tax, the the balance due, followed by
>>>>>> the tip, which turned out to be 20% if the meal after taxes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand what she's saying even if you don't.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> It's not rocket science and proves he is wrong when he assumes that we
>>>> do in Nova Scotia what they do in Ontario - very far from it thank
>>>> god!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well I know that it is not rocket science. I just used the information
>>> that you provided from your bill and, using the calculator function on
>>> my computer, I calculated what a 15% tip and a 20% tip would have been
>>> on the meal only and on the balance due, which included the tax. The
>>> 20% tip on the balance due was exactly what you reported to be your tip.
>>>
>>> You paid the top on the tax as well as the meal.** It really is not
>>> rocket science.* Rather than talk to Jill about how you proved me
>>> wrong perhaps you should show me where I am wrong.
>>>
>> Please don't invoke my name in an attempt to prove her wrong.
>>
>> Jill
>This is getting to be "dog with a bone!!"

You must be the bone because there's no way you're a scientist... any
junkyard mutt is more intelligent than you. I seriously doubt you
even prepare flakie wakies because in all these years no one here has
ever seen any food you have cooked. Graham, you are a total fraud.
Imagine, a scientist who can't use a digicam.

Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 14:31:03 -0500, wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 21:35:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> I want to
>>> study 4th century Greek sculpture and make a lot of money to pay off my
>>> huge student loans. .
>>
>> You'd need to be able to lick your eyebrows.
>>
>> My electrician friend has been married a very long time, more than 50
>> years to a very attractive Irish lass and they managed to raise five
>> kids, four girls, one boy. He's nothing much to look at, he wasn't
>> much to look at when I met him in '78. She never worked at a paying
>> job, didn't need to, my friend made a good living. Maureen worked at
>> raising kids and taking very good care of Joe S. Kids are all grown,
>> girls have families of their own, Joe Jr works as an electrician with
>> his father. Joe doesn't do much physical work anymore, his eyes are
>> failing, in fact his son has to drive him everywhere, out to job sites
>> and to perspective jobs to do estimates. Joe has had his own
>> contracting business now for more than 30 years, he employs a half
>> dozen electricians. He's a workaholic, he can easily afford to retire
>> but I doubt he ever will voluntarilly; he's on the phone all day
>> working up estimates and purchasing equipment for jobs, evenings he
>> teaches getting youngsters ready to take the electrician license test.
>> These days he takes on mostly commercial jobs, he has no time to add a
>> recepticle in someone's home kitchen.
>
> And your point is?
>

He'll get around to telling us how he humped Maureen while his friend
was busy doing electrical work.

Not as impressive as "deflowering" nuns in the Vatican, but still a
notch on his tallywhacker.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 18:38:29 -0500, wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 10:20:44 -0700, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 2018-12-10 9:35 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 12/10/2018 11:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2018-12-10 9:36 a.m., wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:13:05 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> eplied with "It isn't here, tip comes before tax."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then you came back with the information about the bill that showed the
>>>>>>> cost of the meal followed by the tax, the the balance due, followed by
>>>>>>> the tip, which turned out to be 20% if the meal after taxes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand what she's saying even if you don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not rocket science and proves he is wrong when he assumes that we
>>>>> do in Nova Scotia what they do in Ontario - very far from it thank
>>>>> god!!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well I know that it is not rocket science. I just used the information
>>>> that you provided from your bill and, using the calculator function on
>>>> my computer, I calculated what a 15% tip and a 20% tip would have been
>>>> on the meal only and on the balance due, which included the tax. The
>>>> 20% tip on the balance due was exactly what you reported to be your tip.
>>>>
>>>> You paid the top on the tax as well as the meal.** It really is not
>>>> rocket science.* Rather than talk to Jill about how you proved me
>>>> wrong perhaps you should show me where I am wrong.
>>>>
>>> Please don't invoke my name in an attempt to prove her wrong.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>This is getting to be "dog with a bone!!"
>
>You must be the bone because there's no way you're a scientist... any
>junkyard mutt is more intelligent than you. I seriously doubt you
>even prepare flakie wakies because in all these years no one here has
>ever seen any food you have cooked. Graham, you are a total fraud.
>Imagine, a scientist who can't use a digicam.

You are really an idiot - you know zilch about Graham, likely because
you're too busy trying to **** women, he is highly qualified and
probably - although I don't know that - a very nice **** for a woman
because he doesn't bring all the hangups to it that you evidently do!

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:56:47 -0600, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 14:31:03 -0500, wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 21:35:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want to
>>>> study 4th century Greek sculpture and make a lot of money to pay off my
>>>> huge student loans. .
>>>
>>> You'd need to be able to lick your eyebrows.
>>>
>>> My electrician friend has been married a very long time, more than 50
>>> years to a very attractive Irish lass and they managed to raise five
>>> kids, four girls, one boy. He's nothing much to look at, he wasn't
>>> much to look at when I met him in '78. She never worked at a paying
>>> job, didn't need to, my friend made a good living. Maureen worked at
>>> raising kids and taking very good care of Joe S. Kids are all grown,
>>> girls have families of their own, Joe Jr works as an electrician with
>>> his father. Joe doesn't do much physical work anymore, his eyes are
>>> failing, in fact his son has to drive him everywhere, out to job sites
>>> and to perspective jobs to do estimates. Joe has had his own
>>> contracting business now for more than 30 years, he employs a half
>>> dozen electricians. He's a workaholic, he can easily afford to retire
>>> but I doubt he ever will voluntarilly; he's on the phone all day
>>> working up estimates and purchasing equipment for jobs, evenings he
>>> teaches getting youngsters ready to take the electrician license test.
>>> These days he takes on mostly commercial jobs, he has no time to add a
>>> recepticle in someone's home kitchen.
>>
>> And your point is?
>>
>
>He'll get around to telling us how he humped Maureen while his friend
>was busy doing electrical work.
>
>Not as impressive as "deflowering" nuns in the Vatican, but still a
>notch on his tallywhacker.
>

You should tell the Vatican mafia, maybe if we got lucky they would
take him out!

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 20:47:20 -0400, wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 18:38:29 -0500, wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 10:20:44 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2018-12-10 9:35 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 12/10/2018 11:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-12-10 9:36 a.m., wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:13:05 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>> eplied with "It isn't here, tip comes before tax."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then you came back with the information about the bill that showed the
>>>>>>>> cost of the meal followed by the tax, the the balance due, followed by
>>>>>>>> the tip, which turned out to be 20% if the meal after taxes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand what she's saying even if you don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not rocket science and proves he is wrong when he assumes that we
>>>>>> do in Nova Scotia what they do in Ontario - very far from it thank
>>>>>> god!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I know that it is not rocket science. I just used the information
>>>>> that you provided from your bill and, using the calculator function on
>>>>> my computer, I calculated what a 15% tip and a 20% tip would have been
>>>>> on the meal only and on the balance due, which included the tax. The
>>>>> 20% tip on the balance due was exactly what you reported to be your tip.
>>>>>
>>>>> You paid the top on the tax as well as the meal.** It really is not
>>>>> rocket science.* Rather than talk to Jill about how you proved me
>>>>> wrong perhaps you should show me where I am wrong.
>>>>>
>>>> Please don't invoke my name in an attempt to prove her wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>This is getting to be "dog with a bone!!"
>>
>>You must be the bone because there's no way you're a scientist... any
>>junkyard mutt is more intelligent than you. I seriously doubt you
>>even prepare flakie wakies because in all these years no one here has
>>ever seen any food you have cooked. Graham, you are a total fraud.
>>Imagine, a scientist who can't use a digicam.
>
>You are really an idiot - you know zilch about Graham, likely because
>you're too busy trying to **** women, he is highly qualified and
>probably - although I don't know that - a very nice **** for a woman
>because he doesn't bring all the hangups to it that you evidently do!

With that post you make yourself an IMBECILE.

wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 18:38:29 -0500, wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 10:20:44 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-12-10 9:35 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 12/10/2018 11:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-12-10 9:36 a.m., wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:13:05 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>> eplied with "It isn't here, tip comes before tax."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then you came back with the information about the bill that showed the
>>>>>>>> cost of the meal followed by the tax, the the balance due, followed by
>>>>>>>> the tip, which turned out to be 20% if the meal after taxes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand what she's saying even if you don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not rocket science and proves he is wrong when he assumes that we
>>>>>> do in Nova Scotia what they do in Ontario - very far from it thank
>>>>>> god!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I know that it is not rocket science. I just used the information
>>>>> that you provided from your bill and, using the calculator function on
>>>>> my computer, I calculated what a 15% tip and a 20% tip would have been
>>>>> on the meal only and on the balance due, which included the tax. The
>>>>> 20% tip on the balance due was exactly what you reported to be your tip.
>>>>>
>>>>> You paid the top on the tax as well as the meal. It really is not
>>>>> rocket science. Rather than talk to Jill about how you proved me
>>>>> wrong perhaps you should show me where I am wrong.
>>>>>
>>>> Please don't invoke my name in an attempt to prove her wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> This is getting to be "dog with a bone!!"
>>
>> You must be the bone because there's no way you're a scientist... any
>> junkyard mutt is more intelligent than you. I seriously doubt you
>> even prepare flakie wakies because in all these years no one here has
>> ever seen any food you have cooked. Graham, you are a total fraud.
>> Imagine, a scientist who can't use a digicam.
>
> You are really an idiot - you know zilch about Graham, likely because
> you're too busy trying to **** women, he is highly qualified and
> probably - although I don't know that - a very nice **** for a woman
> because he doesn't bring all the hangups to it that you evidently do!
>

Popeye probably don't get laid often if at all (even if he's not impotent).

He spends most of his time chasing down gays.

jmcquown wrote:

> On 12/9/2018 9:54 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/9/2018 10:03 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > > On 12/8/2018 5:08 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > > > Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > FWIW.... there are minimum wages for servers here. It is
> > > > > > > lower for those serving alcohol, but it currently $12.20
> > > > > > > /hr here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A waitress may only make 1.25 an hour and be expected to
> > > > > > 'make of the rest in tips' which she then has to split with
> > > > > > the cook and bus boy (cook and busboy make over minimum
> > > > > > wage already).
> > > > > >
> > > > > Carol, FYI in Virginia the hourly wage for a waiter/waitress
> > > > > is $2.13.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > CA pays $9.00 per hour.
> > > >
> > > > Cheri
> > >
> > > It does vary by state. I just checked, in CA it went up to $10.50
> > > for establishments with less than 25 employees. $11.00 an hour if
> > > they have more than 25 employees. Of course California is an
> > > expensive state to live in.
> > >
> > > Both Virginia and South Carolina still only pay $2.13/hr. up to
> > > the minimum *Federal wage* which is still stuck at $7.25/hour.
> > > If a tipped employee doesn't earn enough in tips to make up the
> > > difference the employer is expected to make up the difference,
> > > which amounts to $5.12/hour.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > My experience is very dated but the employer never made up the
> > difference. They may however send off a final statement that looked
> > like they had so you owed taxes on money you never got.
> >
> Tipped employees fill out a form (IRS 4070A) once a month or at the
> end of each payroll period declaring their tips. The Point of Sale
> system usually keeps track of this information as well. I'm sure
> plenty of employers encourage their servers to report at least the
> $5.12/hour in tips so they can continue to get the tip credit, which
> allows them to only pay the minimum base wage. They are supposed to
> make up the difference if the employee doesn't earn enough in tips to
> meet the Federal minimum wage.
>
> Jill

Interesting. Either that was not in effect in 1978, or I had crooked
employers. I never got one of those.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:56:47 -0600, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 14:31:03 -0500, wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 21:35:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want to
>>>> study 4th century Greek sculpture and make a lot of money to pay off my
>>>> huge student loans. .
>>>
>>> You'd need to be able to lick your eyebrows.
>>>
>>> My electrician friend has been married a very long time, more than 50
>>> years to a very attractive Irish lass and they managed to raise five
>>> kids, four girls, one boy. He's nothing much to look at, he wasn't
>>> much to look at when I met him in '78. She never worked at a paying
>>> job, didn't need to, my friend made a good living. Maureen worked at
>>> raising kids and taking very good care of Joe S. Kids are all grown,
>>> girls have families of their own, Joe Jr works as an electrician with
>>> his father. Joe doesn't do much physical work anymore, his eyes are
>>> failing, in fact his son has to drive him everywhere, out to job sites
>>> and to perspective jobs to do estimates. Joe has had his own
>>> contracting business now for more than 30 years, he employs a half
>>> dozen electricians. He's a workaholic, he can easily afford to retire
>>> but I doubt he ever will voluntarilly; he's on the phone all day
>>> working up estimates and purchasing equipment for jobs, evenings he
>>> teaches getting youngsters ready to take the electrician license test.
>>> These days he takes on mostly commercial jobs, he has no time to add a
>>> recepticle in someone's home kitchen.
>>
>> And your point is?
>>
>
>He'll get around to telling us how he humped Maureen while his friend
>was busy doing electrical work.

Ah yes, this was only part 1. That would make sense.

(...)

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 20:48:22 -0400, wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:56:47 -0600, Hank Rogers >
>wrote:
>
>>Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 14:31:03 -0500, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 21:35:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I want to
>>>>> study 4th century Greek sculpture and make a lot of money to pay off my
>>>>> huge student loans. .
>>>>
>>>> You'd need to be able to lick your eyebrows.
>>>>
>>>> My electrician friend has been married a very long time, more than 50
>>>> years to a very attractive Irish lass and they managed to raise five
>>>> kids, four girls, one boy. He's nothing much to look at, he wasn't
>>>> much to look at when I met him in '78. She never worked at a paying
>>>> job, didn't need to, my friend made a good living. Maureen worked at
>>>> raising kids and taking very good care of Joe S. Kids are all grown,
>>>> girls have families of their own, Joe Jr works as an electrician with
>>>> his father. Joe doesn't do much physical work anymore, his eyes are
>>>> failing, in fact his son has to drive him everywhere, out to job sites
>>>> and to perspective jobs to do estimates. Joe has had his own
>>>> contracting business now for more than 30 years, he employs a half
>>>> dozen electricians. He's a workaholic, he can easily afford to retire
>>>> but I doubt he ever will voluntarilly; he's on the phone all day
>>>> working up estimates and purchasing equipment for jobs, evenings he
>>>> teaches getting youngsters ready to take the electrician license test.
>>>> These days he takes on mostly commercial jobs, he has no time to add a
>>>> recepticle in someone's home kitchen.
>>>
>>> And your point is?
>>>
>>
>>He'll get around to telling us how he humped Maureen while his friend
>>was busy doing electrical work.
>>
>>Not as impressive as "deflowering" nuns in the Vatican, but still a
>>notch on his tallywhacker.
>>
>
>You should tell the Vatican mafia, maybe if we got lucky they would
>take him out!

They can't do that to the women of the world! Their sorrow would be
visible from outer space.

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> In article >, Ed Pawlowski
> > wrote:
>
>
> > I know plenty of people with degrees that are not utilizing them at
> > all.
>
> Way back when, I used my degree to open a door. I used that
> opportunity for seven years which opened another door. That door had
> nothing to do with my degree, and I used the skills my degree
> originally provided me to work until retirement in that job.
> Degrees used to open doors that were inaccessible to people without
> them. I have no idea how it all works now.
>
> leo

Hi Leo,

A degree is more a requirement with a junior job and in specialty skill
areas, is either a total (MD, RN) or optional (programmer, Manager).
Experience still outweighs a piece of paper *unless* Junior HR folks
with less than 5 years on the job get to filter. Then, it's an issue
if they think a degree matters so much as to outway experience.

Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 20:48:22 -0400, wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:56:47 -0600, Hank Rogers >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 14:31:03 -0500, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 21:35:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to
>>>>>> study 4th century Greek sculpture and make a lot of money to pay off my
>>>>>> huge student loans. .
>>>>>
>>>>> You'd need to be able to lick your eyebrows.
>>>>>
>>>>> My electrician friend has been married a very long time, more than 50
>>>>> years to a very attractive Irish lass and they managed to raise five
>>>>> kids, four girls, one boy. He's nothing much to look at, he wasn't
>>>>> much to look at when I met him in '78. She never worked at a paying
>>>>> job, didn't need to, my friend made a good living. Maureen worked at
>>>>> raising kids and taking very good care of Joe S. Kids are all grown,
>>>>> girls have families of their own, Joe Jr works as an electrician with
>>>>> his father. Joe doesn't do much physical work anymore, his eyes are
>>>>> failing, in fact his son has to drive him everywhere, out to job sites
>>>>> and to perspective jobs to do estimates. Joe has had his own
>>>>> contracting business now for more than 30 years, he employs a half
>>>>> dozen electricians. He's a workaholic, he can easily afford to retire
>>>>> but I doubt he ever will voluntarilly; he's on the phone all day
>>>>> working up estimates and purchasing equipment for jobs, evenings he
>>>>> teaches getting youngsters ready to take the electrician license test.
>>>>> These days he takes on mostly commercial jobs, he has no time to add a
>>>>> recepticle in someone's home kitchen.
>>>>
>>>> And your point is?
>>>>
>>>
>>> He'll get around to telling us how he humped Maureen while his friend
>>> was busy doing electrical work.
>>>
>>> Not as impressive as "deflowering" nuns in the Vatican, but still a
>>> notch on his tallywhacker.
>>>
>>
>> You should tell the Vatican mafia, maybe if we got lucky they would
>> take him out!
>
> They can't do that to the women of the world! Their sorrow would be
> visible from outer space.
>

The solution is to surgically remove and save his valuable organs for
the women, then dispose of the rest in a sewage treatment plant.

wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 19:09:25 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 7:35:58 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> > >
> >> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 15:51:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > wrote in message
> news:369e52f0-c6b6-42a0-845f- >> >
> >> >> Of course they should. But if they have no schooling/training
> or have >> >> opted
> >> >> for a liberal arts degree don't expect to start at $25 an hour
> job that >> >> they have absolutely no qualifications for. This has
> been discussed here >> >> more than once; people getting useless
> degrees and then wonder why they're >> >> not making $100,000 a year
> when they apply for a job they have no clue how >> >> to perform.
> >> >
> >> >Yep, people expect to start out at the top these days whether or
> not they >> >are qualified.
> >>
> >> Nobody was talking about $25 an hour or $100,000 a year. Y'all made
> >> that up yourselves.
> > >
> > Nobody made anything up. You should hear these 20-21 year old's
> > talk about how they've got these useless degrees. Somehow they
> > think a degree entitles them to a top salary.
>
> David used to say that - he said they would be desperate enough to
> enquire about a secretarial job but expect to be paid way more than
> the average because they had a degree. He would explain the job did
> not require a degree

I have to laugh. I have gotten some jobs expressly because with no
degree, they got actual experience and didnt have to pay as much.

Janet wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> > > > You're wrong about that. Yoose and meese could afford a roof
> > > > over our head and food when we were young folks - even an
> > > > education. That's not the case any more. You're totally
> > > > clueless about the economic landscape out there. My guess is
> > > > that very soon the younger generation is going to get tired of
> > > > paying for our useless entitlement asses and then there's'
> > > > going to be trouble for the ah...said asses.
> > >
> > > When I was young, the only way I could afford a roof over my head
> > > was by having roommates and riding the bus. Food was a lot of
> > > rice and spaghetti, and very little meat or vegetables.
> > >
> > > You can dial back the Gen X whine.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > Cut me a break with the boomer gloating about how special they are.
>
> I haven't heard any examples of that.
>
> > Their self-indulgence have sold out the future generations. They
> > cashed a check they have no intention of paying for.
>
> Rubbish. My generation were brought up hard in the aftermath of WW2
> and we've worked for, earned or made everything we have.
>
> Janet UK

Correct. I may be the edge of it but I knew no one owed me anything
except what I made of myself. I worked as many hours as i could, paid
my bills, and paid as much as I could for college. I wasn't able to
pay the last semester and went Navy.

I may not be the smartst person in the world but i knew to not get
stupid with college debt. If you use a loan to get through college, you
BETTER BE WORKING to reduce the loan amount.

dsi1 wrote:

> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 9:23:49 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > Good point. I may give away all my wordly goods and go live in the
> > woods. I can eat wild berries and leaves.
>
> You could do that if you wish, it's not going to change the
> unfavorable write up the boomers are going to get. The reality is
> that you're not going to be able to view the actions of the boomers
> or the Gen Xes objectively. Mostly you see things from the view of a
> crotchety old geezer.

You have issues....

wrote:

> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 11:58:45 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > On 12/10/2018 12:34 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > Cut me a break with the boomer gloating about how special they
> > > are. Their self-indulgence have sold out the future generations.
> > > They cashed a check they have no intention of paying for.
> > >
> > Not sure what you are talking about. I worked, OT when I could,
> > and paid for everything I have. If owning a home is self
> > indulgence, tough.
> >
> I didn't get that comment either. I worked overtime whether I wanted
> to or not, but the paycheck was nice when that extra cashed showed up
> on it. $10 for every Christmas morning, Easter Sunday, and New Years
> Eve I worked would be nice. The only 'self-indulgence' I can think
> of that I gladly jumped on was the FHA loan for my house.

Smile, silver star on a VA loan is really handy!

On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 5:43:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 9:23:49 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >
> > > Good point. I may give away all my wordly goods and go live in the
> > > woods. I can eat wild berries and leaves.
> >
> > You could do that if you wish, it's not going to change the
> > unfavorable write up the boomers are going to get. The reality is
> > that you're not going to be able to view the actions of the boomers
> > or the Gen Xes objectively. Mostly you see things from the view of a
> > crotchety old geezer.
>
> You have issues....

Why yes, I do have an issue with old fogies that believe that their generation was the best there ever was. That's just vanity talking.

On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 12:34:54 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 1:10:13 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 6:30:07 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 11:57:53 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > > > graham wrote:
> > > > >On 2018-12-09 Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> BTW..... that January increase may not happen. The previous Liberal
> > > > >> governmentÂ* had arranged to increase the minimum wage in two steps. They
> > > > >> had already raised it over a dollar per hour and it would have been too
> > > > >> onerous on employers to absorb that in a short period. As it turned out,
> > > > >> a lot of part time and minimum wage jobs disappeared because employers
> > > > >> could not afford it.
> > > > >
> > > > >In other words, their businesses were not viable if they had to pay a
> > > > >living wage.
> > > >
> > > > You're displaying your UNeducatedness, there is no definition for
> > > > "living wage" except in commie governments, and then the dictator
> > > > delegates the living wage.
> > > > The pay was sufficient to accept the position... if the pay is no
> > > > longer deemed sufficient one is free to leave. And what has the
> > > > employee done in the interim to make themself more valuable...
> > > > NOTHING! Therefore the employer would be thrilled when a useless
> > > > employee departs of their own volition, holds down the employer's
> > > > unemployment insurance.
> > > >
> > > > If however the employee went to school at night to acquire more
> > > > skills, so made themself more valuable, the employer would be thrilled
> > > > to offer a commisserate pay raise rather than risk losing a more
> > > > valuable employee.
> > > >
> > > > Your comment not only says that you are unemployable welfare material
> > > > it more loudly says that you are dishonest and thinks it's okay to
> > > > take/steal what you didn't earn.
> > > > Graham, your thought processes are that of a common
> > > > criminal/druggie... your thinking is how shoplifters and tenants who
> > > > don't pay their rent think... ' yoose rich, suck it up'... my reply to
> > > > your ilk is you're FIRED! You're EVICTED! ADIOS MFer!
> > >
> > > You're wrong about that. Yoose and meese could afford a roof over our head and food when we were young folks - even an education. That's not the case any more. You're totally clueless about the economic landscape out there. My guess is that very soon the younger generation is going to get tired of paying for our useless entitlement asses and then there's' going to be trouble for the ah...said asses.
> >
> > When I was young, the only way I could afford a roof over my head was by
> > having roommates and riding the bus. Food was a lot of rice and spaghetti,
> > and very little meat or vegetables.
> >
> > You can dial back the Gen X whine.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> Cut me a break with the boomer gloating about how special they are. Their self-indulgence have sold out the future generations. They cashed a check they have no intention of paying for.

You endlessly ascribe the actions of a few to the entire cohort. Then you
wonder why so many people here dismiss your opinions as crap.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:33:19 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 5:43:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 9:23:49 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good point. I may give away all my wordly goods and go live in the
> > > > woods. I can eat wild berries and leaves.
> > >
> > > You could do that if you wish, it's not going to change the
> > > unfavorable write up the boomers are going to get. The reality is
> > > that you're not going to be able to view the actions of the boomers
> > > or the Gen Xes objectively. Mostly you see things from the view of a
> > > crotchety old geezer.
> >
> > You have issues....
>
> Why yes, I do have an issue with old fogies that believe that their generation was the best there ever was. That's just vanity talking.

Bet you a quarter that we think our parents' generation was the best ever.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:07:32 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 12:34:54 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 1:10:13 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 6:30:07 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 11:57:53 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > > > > graham wrote:
> > > > > >On 2018-12-09 Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> BTW..... that January increase may not happen. The previous Liberal
> > > > > >> governmentÂ* had arranged to increase the minimum wage in two steps. They
> > > > > >> had already raised it over a dollar per hour and it would have been too
> > > > > >> onerous on employers to absorb that in a short period. As it turned out,
> > > > > >> a lot of part time and minimum wage jobs disappeared because employers
> > > > > >> could not afford it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In other words, their businesses were not viable if they had to pay a
> > > > > >living wage.
> > > > >
> > > > > You're displaying your UNeducatedness, there is no definition for
> > > > > "living wage" except in commie governments, and then the dictator
> > > > > delegates the living wage.
> > > > > The pay was sufficient to accept the position... if the pay is no
> > > > > longer deemed sufficient one is free to leave. And what has the
> > > > > employee done in the interim to make themself more valuable...
> > > > > NOTHING! Therefore the employer would be thrilled when a useless
> > > > > employee departs of their own volition, holds down the employer's
> > > > > unemployment insurance.
> > > > >
> > > > > If however the employee went to school at night to acquire more
> > > > > skills, so made themself more valuable, the employer would be thrilled
> > > > > to offer a commisserate pay raise rather than risk losing a more
> > > > > valuable employee.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your comment not only says that you are unemployable welfare material
> > > > > it more loudly says that you are dishonest and thinks it's okay to
> > > > > take/steal what you didn't earn.
> > > > > Graham, your thought processes are that of a common
> > > > > criminal/druggie... your thinking is how shoplifters and tenants who
> > > > > don't pay their rent think... ' yoose rich, suck it up'... my reply to
> > > > > your ilk is you're FIRED! You're EVICTED! ADIOS MFer!
> > > >
> > > > You're wrong about that. Yoose and meese could afford a roof over our head and food when we were young folks - even an education. That's not the case any more. You're totally clueless about the economic landscape out there. My guess is that very soon the younger generation is going to get tired of paying for our useless entitlement asses and then there's' going to be trouble for the ah...said asses.
> > >
> > > When I was young, the only way I could afford a roof over my head was by
> > > having roommates and riding the bus. Food was a lot of rice and spaghetti,
> > > and very little meat or vegetables.
> > >
> > > You can dial back the Gen X whine.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > Cut me a break with the boomer gloating about how special they are. Their self-indulgence have sold out the future generations. They cashed a check they have no intention of paying for.
>
> You endlessly ascribe the actions of a few to the entire cohort. Then you
> wonder why so many people here dismiss your opinions as crap.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

As we all know, old farts never complain about the younger generation. They never gloat about how their generation was harder working and had more guts than the young folks. Well, except for the old farts on this newsgroup.

I can't afford to care about other people's opinion about my opinions. The only thing I care about is what's the truth and what's just vanity. Caring about other people's opinion on your opinion is not the path to a righteous life. I'd sure like to lead a clean life, if you don't mind.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 5:43:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 9:23:49 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good point. I may give away all my wordly goods and go live in the
> > > > woods. I can eat wild berries and leaves.
> > >
> > > You could do that if you wish, it's not going to change the
> > > unfavorable write up the boomers are going to get. The reality is
> > > that you're not going to be able to view the actions of the boomers
> > > or the Gen Xes objectively. Mostly you see things from the view of a
> > > crotchety old geezer.
> >
> > You have issues....
>
> Why yes, I do have an issue with old fogies that believe that their generation was the best there ever was.

Nobody said that.

> That's just vanity talking.

It's voices talking in your head.

Janet UK.

On 2018-12-11 11:16 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:07:32 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton

>> You endlessly ascribe the actions of a few to the entire cohort.
>> Then you wonder why so many people here dismiss your opinions as
>> crap.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> As we all know, old farts never complain about the younger
> generation. They never gloat about how their generation was harder
> working and had more guts than the young folks. Well, except for the
> old farts on this newsgroup.
>
> I can't afford to care about other people's opinion about my
> opinions. The only thing I care about is what's the truth and what's
> just vanity. Caring about other people's opinion on your opinion is
> not the path to a righteous life. I'd sure like to lead a clean life,
> if you don't mind.

It seems that the current generation always tends to worry about the
next generation. Meanwhile, the younger generation rejects the older one
and vows to do things differently. I guess that is why we see so many
reversals in fashions and standards and keep bouncing back and fourth.
My parents generation were into the religious religious ethic. The US
had to deal with the not so subtle coercion of the the McCarthy era. My
generation fought against that. More of us went to university and pushed
the limits of freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom from
religion. Now we are seeing a huge reversal. The censorship in now done
under the auspices of political correctness.

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 6:53:49 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-12-11 11:16 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:07:32 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
>
> >> You endlessly ascribe the actions of a few to the entire cohort.
> >> Then you wonder why so many people here dismiss your opinions as
> >> crap.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > As we all know, old farts never complain about the younger
> > generation. They never gloat about how their generation was harder
> > working and had more guts than the young folks. Well, except for the
> > old farts on this newsgroup.
> >
> > I can't afford to care about other people's opinion about my
> > opinions. The only thing I care about is what's the truth and what's
> > just vanity. Caring about other people's opinion on your opinion is
> > not the path to a righteous life. I'd sure like to lead a clean life,
> > if you don't mind.
>
> It seems that the current generation always tends to worry about the
> next generation. Meanwhile, the younger generation rejects the older one
> and vows to do things differently. I guess that is why we see so many
> reversals in fashions and standards and keep bouncing back and fourth.
> My parents generation were into the religious religious ethic. The US
> had to deal with the not so subtle coercion of the the McCarthy era. My
> generation fought against that. More of us went to university and pushed
> the limits of freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom from
> religion. Now we are seeing a huge reversal. The censorship in now done
> under the auspices of political correctness.

The boomers are a great disappointment. They thought they were going to change everything that was wrong with their parents but instead were motivated by greed and became worse. OTOH, the young people's desire for conformity, political correctness, and acting as a mob, is a little frightening to this old fart.

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:15:04 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:33:19 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 5:43:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > > dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 9:23:49 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Good point. I may give away all my wordly goods and go live in the
> > > > > woods. I can eat wild berries and leaves.
> > > >
> > > > You could do that if you wish, it's not going to change the
> > > > unfavorable write up the boomers are going to get. The reality is
> > > > that you're not going to be able to view the actions of the boomers
> > > > or the Gen Xes objectively. Mostly you see things from the view of a
> > > > crotchety old geezer.
> > >
> > > You have issues....
> >
> > Why yes, I do have an issue with old fogies that believe that their generation was the best there ever was. That's just vanity talking.
>
> Bet you a quarter that we think our parents' generation was the best ever.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Wadda ya mean "we."

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:07:32 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 12:34:54 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 1:10:13 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 6:30:07 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 11:57:53 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > > > > graham wrote:
> > > > > >On 2018-12-09 Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> BTW..... that January increase may not happen. The previous
> > > > > >> Liberal
> > > > > >> government had arranged to increase the minimum wage in two
> > > > > >> steps. They
> > > > > >> had already raised it over a dollar per hour and it would have
> > > > > >> been too
> > > > > >> onerous on employers to absorb that in a short period. As it
> > > > > >> turned out,
> > > > > >> a lot of part time and minimum wage jobs disappeared because
> > > > > >> employers
> > > > > >> could not afford it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In other words, their businesses were not viable if they had to
> > > > > >pay a
> > > > > >living wage.
> > > > >
> > > > > You're displaying your UNeducatedness, there is no definition for
> > > > > "living wage" except in commie governments, and then the dictator
> > > > > delegates the living wage.
> > > > > The pay was sufficient to accept the position... if the pay is no
> > > > > longer deemed sufficient one is free to leave. And what has the
> > > > > employee done in the interim to make themself more valuable...
> > > > > NOTHING! Therefore the employer would be thrilled when a useless
> > > > > employee departs of their own volition, holds down the employer's
> > > > > unemployment insurance.
> > > > >
> > > > > If however the employee went to school at night to acquire more
> > > > > skills, so made themself more valuable, the employer would be
> > > > > thrilled
> > > > > to offer a commisserate pay raise rather than risk losing a more
> > > > > valuable employee.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your comment not only says that you are unemployable welfare
> > > > > material
> > > > > it more loudly says that you are dishonest and thinks it's okay to
> > > > > take/steal what you didn't earn.
> > > > > Graham, your thought processes are that of a common
> > > > > criminal/druggie... your thinking is how shoplifters and tenants
> > > > > who
> > > > > don't pay their rent think... ' yoose rich, suck it up'... my
> > > > > reply to
> > > > > your ilk is you're FIRED! You're EVICTED! ADIOS MFer!
> > > >
> > > > You're wrong about that. Yoose and meese could afford a roof over
> > > > our head and food when we were young folks - even an education.
> > > > That's not the case any more. You're totally clueless about the
> > > > economic landscape out there. My guess is that very soon the younger
> > > > generation is going to get tired of paying for our useless
> > > > entitlement asses and then there's' going to be trouble for the
> > > > ah...said asses.
> > >
> > > When I was young, the only way I could afford a roof over my head was
> > > by
> > > having roommates and riding the bus. Food was a lot of rice and
> > > spaghetti,
> > > and very little meat or vegetables.
> > >
> > > You can dial back the Gen X whine.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > Cut me a break with the boomer gloating about how special they are.
> > Their self-indulgence have sold out the future generations. They cashed
> > a check they have no intention of paying for.
>
> You endlessly ascribe the actions of a few to the entire cohort. Then you
> wonder why so many people here dismiss your opinions as crap.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

As we all know, old farts never complain about the younger generation. They
never gloat about how their generation was harder working and had more guts
than the young folks. Well, except for the old farts on this newsgroup.

Seems to me that ALL ages complain about the ages/ways of others on any
given day.

Cheri

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:09:56 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 11 Dec 2018 09:54:58a, Dave Smith told us...
>
>> It seems that the current generation always tends to worry about
>> the next generation. Meanwhile, the younger generation rejects the
>> older one and vows to do things differently. I guess that is why
>> we see so many reversals in fashions and standards and keep
>> bouncing back and fourth. My parents generation were into the
>> religious religious ethic. The US had to deal with the not so
>> subtle coercion of the the McCarthy era. My generation fought
>> against that. More of us went to university and pushed the limits
>> of freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom from
>> religion. Now we are seeing a huge reversal. The censorship in now
>> done under the auspices of political correctness.
>>
>
>Like many other things, political correctness has been carried way
>too far, having practical obliterated true freedom of speech.

Amen.

On 2018-12-11 10:09 a.m., Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 11 Dec 2018 09:54:58a, Dave Smith told us...
>
>> On 2018-12-11 11:16 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:07:32 AM UTC-10, Cindy
>>> Hamilton
>>
>>>> You endlessly ascribe the actions of a few to the entire cohort.
>>>> Then you wonder why so many people here dismiss your opinions as
>>>> crap.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> As we all know, old farts never complain about the younger
>>> generation. They never gloat about how their generation was
>>> harder working and had more guts than the young folks. Well,
>>> except for the old farts on this newsgroup.
>>>
>>> I can't afford to care about other people's opinion about my
>>> opinions. The only thing I care about is what's the truth and
>>> what's just vanity. Caring about other people's opinion on your
>>> opinion is not the path to a righteous life. I'd sure like to
>>> lead a clean life, if you don't mind.
>>
>> It seems that the current generation always tends to worry about
>> the next generation. Meanwhile, the younger generation rejects the
>> older one and vows to do things differently. I guess that is why
>> we see so many reversals in fashions and standards and keep
>> bouncing back and fourth. My parents generation were into the
>> religious religious ethic. The US had to deal with the not so
>> subtle coercion of the the McCarthy era. My generation fought
>> against that. More of us went to university and pushed the limits
>> of freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom from
>> religion. Now we are seeing a huge reversal. The censorship in now
>> done under the auspices of political correctness.
>>
>
> Like many other things, political correctness has been carried way
> too far, having practical obliterated true freedom of speech.
>
>
>
One of the age groups in ice hockey is "Midget". Now tiny people are
asking for it to be changed as it offends them. Well, as Stephen Fry put
it: "So ****ing what!"!

"graham" > wrote in message
news
> One of the age groups in ice hockey is "Midget". Now tiny people are
> asking for it to be changed as it offends them. Well, as Stephen Fry put
> it: "So ****ing what!"!


Are you sure "tiny people" is OK to say? ;-)

Cheri

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message

> Political Correctness? What the hell does politics hav to do with
> it? IMHO, the term "PoliticalCorrectness should have ever been
> coined. However, I' an old fogey, so what do I know. :-)

I believe the term is there because if you aren't "correct" in your
thinking, or at least in what you portray to the general public your career
in politics is pretty much out the window with some factions so politicians
usually try to be "correct" in their statements. I could be wrong.

Cheri

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:25:28 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>
> Seems to me that ALL ages complain about the ages/ways of others on any
> given day.
>
> Cheri

I don't typically hear people bitching about other people in real life. It's probably because I avoid people that tends toward negativity. They are not pleasant to be around.

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:07:32 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 12:34:54 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 1:10:13 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 6:30:07 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 11:57:53 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > > > > graham wrote:
> > > > > >On 2018-12-09 Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> BTW..... that January increase may not happen. The previous
> > > > > >> Liberal
> > > > > >> government had arranged to increase the minimum wage in two
> > > > > >> steps. They
> > > > > >> had already raised it over a dollar per hour and it would have
> > > > > >> been too
> > > > > >> onerous on employers to absorb that in a short period. As it
> > > > > >> turned out,
> > > > > >> a lot of part time and minimum wage jobs disappeared because
> > > > > >> employers
> > > > > >> could not afford it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In other words, their businesses were not viable if they had to
> > > > > >pay a
> > > > > >living wage.
> > > > >
> > > > > You're displaying your UNeducatedness, there is no definition for
> > > > > "living wage" except in commie governments, and then the dictator
> > > > > delegates the living wage.
> > > > > The pay was sufficient to accept the position... if the pay is no
> > > > > longer deemed sufficient one is free to leave. And what has the
> > > > > employee done in the interim to make themself more valuable...
> > > > > NOTHING! Therefore the employer would be thrilled when a useless
> > > > > employee departs of their own volition, holds down the employer's
> > > > > unemployment insurance.
> > > > >
> > > > > If however the employee went to school at night to acquire more
> > > > > skills, so made themself more valuable, the employer would be
> > > > > thrilled
> > > > > to offer a commisserate pay raise rather than risk losing a more
> > > > > valuable employee.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your comment not only says that you are unemployable welfare
> > > > > material
> > > > > it more loudly says that you are dishonest and thinks it's okay to
> > > > > take/steal what you didn't earn.
> > > > > Graham, your thought processes are that of a common
> > > > > criminal/druggie... your thinking is how shoplifters and tenants
> > > > > who
> > > > > don't pay their rent think... ' yoose rich, suck it up'... my
> > > > > reply to
> > > > > your ilk is you're FIRED! You're EVICTED! ADIOS MFer!
> > > >
> > > > You're wrong about that. Yoose and meese could afford a roof over
> > > > our head and food when we were young folks - even an education.
> > > > That's not the case any more. You're totally clueless about the
> > > > economic landscape out there. My guess is that very soon the younger
> > > > generation is going to get tired of paying for our useless
> > > > entitlement asses and then there's' going to be trouble for the
> > > > ah...said asses.
> > >
> > > When I was young, the only way I could afford a roof over my head was
> > > by
> > > having roommates and riding the bus. Food was a lot of rice and
> > > spaghetti,
> > > and very little meat or vegetables.
> > >
> > > You can dial back the Gen X whine.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > Cut me a break with the boomer gloating about how special they are.
> > Their self-indulgence have sold out the future generations. They cashed
> > a check they have no intention of paying for.
>
> You endlessly ascribe the actions of a few to the entire cohort. Then you
> wonder why so many people here dismiss your opinions as crap.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

As we all know, old farts never complain about the younger generation. They
never gloat about how their generation was harder working and had more guts
than the young folks. Well, except for the old farts on this newsgroup.

Seems to me that ALL ages complain about the ages/ways of others on any
given day.

Cheri

==

Ain't that the truth!!

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 6:53:49 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2018-12-11 11:16 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:07:32 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > >> You endlessly ascribe the actions of a few to the entire cohort.
> > >> Then you wonder why so many people here dismiss your opinions as
> > >> crap.
> > >>
> > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > > As we all know, old farts never complain about the younger
> > > generation. They never gloat about how their generation was harder
> > > working and had more guts than the young folks. Well, except for the
> > > old farts on this newsgroup.
> > >
> > > I can't afford to care about other people's opinion about my
> > > opinions. The only thing I care about is what's the truth and what's
> > > just vanity. Caring about other people's opinion on your opinion is
> > > not the path to a righteous life. I'd sure like to lead a clean life,
> > > if you don't mind.
> >
> > It seems that the current generation always tends to worry about the
> > next generation. Meanwhile, the younger generation rejects the older one
> > and vows to do things differently. I guess that is why we see so many
> > reversals in fashions and standards and keep bouncing back and fourth.
> > My parents generation were into the religious religious ethic. The US
> > had to deal with the not so subtle coercion of the the McCarthy era. My
> > generation fought against that. More of us went to university and pushed
> > the limits of freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom from
> > religion. Now we are seeing a huge reversal. The censorship in now done
> > under the auspices of political correctness.
>
> The boomers are a great disappointment. They thought they were going to change everything that was wrong with their parents but instead were motivated by greed and became worse. OTOH, the young people's desire for conformity, political correctness, and acting as a mob, is a little frightening to this old fart.

You don't know jack about the boomers. 99% of them just wanted
jobs, houses, and families like everybody else. It's the 1% of
them who were noisy and got themselves on the news. Those are
the ones you remember. Not people like my doctor, my dentist,
and my mechanic.

Cindy Hamilton

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:25:28 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> Seems to me that ALL ages complain about the ages/ways of others on any
>> given day.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I don't typically hear people bitching about other people in real life.
> It's probably because I avoid people that tends toward negativity. They
> are not pleasant to be around.

=======

No, I don't hear the people standing next to me in person complaining, but I
see it on TV, news etc.I mostly avoid people who give their medical reports
every time you see them, I can handle the negativity better.

Cheri

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 10:17:50 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 6:53:49 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2018-12-11 11:16 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:07:32 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > > >> You endlessly ascribe the actions of a few to the entire cohort.
> > > >> Then you wonder why so many people here dismiss your opinions as
> > > >> crap.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > > > As we all know, old farts never complain about the younger
> > > > generation. They never gloat about how their generation was harder
> > > > working and had more guts than the young folks. Well, except for the
> > > > old farts on this newsgroup.
> > > >
> > > > I can't afford to care about other people's opinion about my
> > > > opinions. The only thing I care about is what's the truth and what's
> > > > just vanity. Caring about other people's opinion on your opinion is
> > > > not the path to a righteous life. I'd sure like to lead a clean life,
> > > > if you don't mind.
> > >
> > > It seems that the current generation always tends to worry about the
> > > next generation. Meanwhile, the younger generation rejects the older one
> > > and vows to do things differently. I guess that is why we see so many
> > > reversals in fashions and standards and keep bouncing back and fourth..
> > > My parents generation were into the religious religious ethic. The US
> > > had to deal with the not so subtle coercion of the the McCarthy era. My
> > > generation fought against that. More of us went to university and pushed
> > > the limits of freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom from
> > > religion. Now we are seeing a huge reversal. The censorship in now done
> > > under the auspices of political correctness.
> >
> > The boomers are a great disappointment. They thought they were going to change everything that was wrong with their parents but instead were motivated by greed and became worse. OTOH, the young people's desire for conformity, political correctness, and acting as a mob, is a little frightening to this old fart.
>
> You don't know jack about the boomers. 99% of them just wanted
> jobs, houses, and families like everybody else. It's the 1% of
> them who were noisy and got themselves on the news. Those are
> the ones you remember. Not people like my doctor, my dentist,
> and my mechanic.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

That's just my opinion. I prefer to rely on my own opinion rather than some random person's opinion of my opinion. This only makes sense.

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 12:33:19 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>
> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 5:43:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > You have issues....
>
> Why yes, I do have an issue with old fogies that believe that their generation was the best there ever was. That's just vanity talking.
>
The best generation were the people that fought in WW2. Most of us here are
the product of that generation.

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 10:28:49 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi1> wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:25:28 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> >>
> >> Seems to me that ALL ages complain about the ages/ways of others on any
> >> given day.
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > I don't typically hear people bitching about other people in real life.
> > It's probably because I avoid people that tends toward negativity. They
> > are not pleasant to be around.
>
> =======
>
> No, I don't hear the people standing next to me in person complaining, but I
> see it on TV, news etc.I mostly avoid people who give their medical reports
> every time you see them, I can handle the negativity better.
>
> Cheri

You might be able to handle negativity to a fair degree. Me, I don't do so well. That's the breaks I guess.

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 12:33:19 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 5:43:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > You have issues....
> >
> > Why yes, I do have an issue with old fogies that believe that their generation was the best there ever was. That's just vanity talking.
> >
> The best generation were the people that fought in WW2. Most of us here are
> the product of that generation.

I have heard this. Mostly our parents were put through the fire. I suspect that most generations would rise up when duty calls - but I could be wrong.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 10:28:49 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> "dsi1" <dsi1> wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:25:28 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Seems to me that ALL ages complain about the ages/ways of others on
>> >> any
>> >> given day.
>> >>
>> >> Cheri
>> >
>> > I don't typically hear people bitching about other people in real life.
>> > It's probably because I avoid people that tends toward negativity. They
>> > are not pleasant to be around.
>>
>> =======
>>
>> No, I don't hear the people standing next to me in person complaining,
>> but I
>> see it on TV, news etc.I mostly avoid people who give their medical
>> reports
>> every time you see them, I can handle the negativity better.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> You might be able to handle negativity to a fair degree. Me, I don't do so
> well. That's the breaks I guess.

=========

Yes, I can handle it better than whining or hearing "it's not fair."

Cheri

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:57:58 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 12:33:19 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 5:43:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>> >
>> > You have issues....
>>
>> Why yes, I do have an issue with old fogies that believe that their generation was the best there ever was. That's just vanity talking.
>>
>The best generation were the people that fought in WW2. Most of us here are
>the product of that generation.

All those generalisations are nonsense. Among the people who fought in
WW2, there were good ones, bad ones and mediocre ones. The same
applies to the people who fought in any other war. And it also applies
to the people who lay on the couch watching soaps.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 13:03:03 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 12:33:19 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>> >
>> > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 5:43:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>> > >
>> > > You have issues....
>> >
>> > Why yes, I do have an issue with old fogies that believe that their generation was the best there ever was. That's just vanity talking.
>> >
>> The best generation were the people that fought in WW2. Most of us here are
>> the product of that generation.
>
>I have heard this. Mostly our parents were put through the fire. I suspect that most generations would rise up when duty calls - but I could be wrong.

Yes, when you have no choice, you have no choice.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:37:36 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"graham" > wrote in message
>news >
>> One of the age groups in ice hockey is "Midget". Now tiny people are
>> asking for it to be changed as it offends them. Well, as Stephen Fry put
>> it: "So ****ing what!"!
>
>
>Are you sure "tiny people" is OK to say? ;-)
>
>Cheri

Dwarf works.