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On 10/12/2018 4:48 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> Gary > wrote: >> Jinx the Minx wrote: >>> Itâs an uncomfortable 40 degrees out so a comfort classic, hamburger >>> hotdish, is on the menu for tonight. >> I just looked that up. Sounds good. I see many variations after >> beef and egg noodles. How do you make yours? >> > No noodles. Its pretty much scalloped potatoes with carrots, and browned > hamburger (with diced onion) instead of ham. The ratio of meat and carrot > to potato is higher, too., like 1/3 each. Mixed with a basic scalloped > potato sauce (no cream of soup). Dont skimp on salt and pepper else its > pretty dang bland. Then baked a long dang time until the carrots and > potatoes are soft, which depends on how thin you cut them. Hard to screw > up and my kid likes it. I only make it when its the two of us home. > > If I were to re-write the recipe using noodles, Id omit the carrot, add > mushrooms, use cream of mush soup and call it stroganoff hotdish. Ha! > * That sounds a bit like a layered casserole my wife useta make , layers of sliced taters , green beans , mushrooms , ground beef , thick slices of onion and topped with a can of Cream O' Something soup . -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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Terry Coombs > wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 4:48 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >> Gary > wrote: >>> Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>> Itâs an uncomfortable 40 degrees out so a comfort classic, hamburger >>>> hotdish, is on the menu for tonight. >>> I just looked that up. Sounds good. I see many variations after >>> beef and egg noodles. How do you make yours? >>> >> No noodles. Its pretty much scalloped potatoes with carrots, and browned >> hamburger (with diced onion) instead of ham. The ratio of meat and carrot >> to potato is higher, too., like 1/3 each. Mixed with a basic scalloped >> potato sauce (no cream of soup). Dont skimp on salt and pepper else its >> pretty dang bland. Then baked a long dang time until the carrots and >> potatoes are soft, which depends on how thin you cut them. Hard to screw >> up and my kid likes it. I only make it when its the two of us home. >> >> If I were to re-write the recipe using noodles, Id omit the carrot, add >> mushrooms, use cream of mush soup and call it stroganoff hotdish. Ha! >> > * That sounds a bit like a layered casserole my wife useta make , > layers of sliced taters , green beans , mushrooms , ground beef , thick > slices of onion and topped with a can of Cream O' Something soup . > Im not even sure my recipe is a real recipeits just something my mom made when I was a kid and my daughter likes it, so I make it for her. Ive never, ever seen nor heard of it anywhere else. I just googled it and cant even find anything super similar online (although I didnt search long). |
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On 10/12/2018 7:42 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> Terry Coombs > wrote: >> On 10/12/2018 4:48 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >>> Gary > wrote: >>>> Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>>> Itâs an uncomfortable 40 degrees out so a comfort classic, hamburger >>>>> hotdish, is on the menu for tonight. >>>> I just looked that up. Sounds good. I see many variations after >>>> beef and egg noodles. How do you make yours? >>>> >>> No noodles. Its pretty much scalloped potatoes with carrots, and browned >>> hamburger (with diced onion) instead of ham. The ratio of meat and carrot >>> to potato is higher, too., like 1/3 each. Mixed with a basic scalloped >>> potato sauce (no cream of soup). Dont skimp on salt and pepper else its >>> pretty dang bland. Then baked a long dang time until the carrots and >>> potatoes are soft, which depends on how thin you cut them. Hard to screw >>> up and my kid likes it. I only make it when its the two of us home. >>> >>> If I were to re-write the recipe using noodles, Id omit the carrot, add >>> mushrooms, use cream of mush soup and call it stroganoff hotdish. Ha! >>> >> * That sounds a bit like a layered casserole my wife useta make , >> layers of sliced taters , green beans , mushrooms , ground beef , thick >> slices of onion and topped with a can of Cream O' Something soup . >> > Im not even sure my recipe is a real recipeits just something my mom > made when I was a kid and my daughter likes it, so I make it for her. Ive > never, ever seen nor heard of it anywhere else. I just googled it and > cant even find anything super similar online (although I didnt search > long). > * Where do you think "real" recipes came from ? "No Ogg , you stupid cave dweller , the meat goes over the fire fat side UP !" And thus was born the first "real" recipe ... -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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Terry Coombs > wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 7:42 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >> Terry Coombs > wrote: >>> On 10/12/2018 4:48 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>> Gary > wrote: >>>>> Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>>>> Itâs an uncomfortable 40 degrees out so a comfort classic, hamburger >>>>>> hotdish, is on the menu for tonight. >>>>> I just looked that up. Sounds good. I see many variations after >>>>> beef and egg noodles. How do you make yours? >>>>> >>>> No noodles. Its pretty much scalloped potatoes with carrots, and browned >>>> hamburger (with diced onion) instead of ham. The ratio of meat and carrot >>>> to potato is higher, too., like 1/3 each. Mixed with a basic scalloped >>>> potato sauce (no cream of soup). Dont skimp on salt and pepper else its >>>> pretty dang bland. Then baked a long dang time until the carrots and >>>> potatoes are soft, which depends on how thin you cut them. Hard to screw >>>> up and my kid likes it. I only make it when its the two of us home. >>>> >>>> If I were to re-write the recipe using noodles, Id omit the carrot, add >>>> mushrooms, use cream of mush soup and call it stroganoff hotdish. Ha! >>>> >>> * That sounds a bit like a layered casserole my wife useta make , >>> layers of sliced taters , green beans , mushrooms , ground beef , thick >>> slices of onion and topped with a can of Cream O' Something soup . >>> >> Im not even sure my recipe is a real recipeits just something my mom >> made when I was a kid and my daughter likes it, so I make it for her. Ive >> never, ever seen nor heard of it anywhere else. I just googled it and >> cant even find anything super similar online (although I didnt search >> long). >> > * Where do you think "real" recipes came from ? "No Ogg , you stupid > cave dweller , the meat goes over the fire fat side UP !" And thus was > born the first "real" recipe ... > True enough! By real I mostly meant identifiable by some greater collective of people, either by region, or culture, etc. The only two people that I know that make this are my mother and me, but I dont doubt there are lots of similar things out there. |
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On 10/12/2018 9:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 7:42 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >> Terry Coombs > wrote: >>> On 10/12/2018 4:48 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>> Gary > wrote: >>>>> Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>>>> Itâs an uncomfortable 40 degrees out so a comfort classic, >>>>>> hamburger >>>>>> hotdish, is on the menu for tonight. >>>>> I just looked that up. Sounds good. I see many variations after >>>>> beef and egg noodles. How do you make yours? >>>>> >>>> No noodles. Its pretty much scalloped potatoes with carrots, and >>>> browned >>>> hamburger (with diced onion) instead of ham.* The ratio of meat and >>>> carrot >>>> to potato is higher, too., like 1/3 each. Mixed with a basic scalloped >>>> potato sauce (no cream of soup). Dont skimp on salt and pepper else >>>> its >>>> pretty dang bland. Then baked a long dang time until the carrots and >>>> potatoes are soft, which depends on how thin you cut them.* Hard to >>>> screw >>>> up and my kid likes it. I only make it when its the two of us home. >>>> >>>> If I were to re-write the recipe using noodles, Id omit the carrot, >>>> add >>>> mushrooms, use cream of mush soup and call it stroganoff hotdish.* Ha! >>>> >>> ** That sounds a bit like a layered casserole my wife useta make , >>> layers of sliced taters , green beans , mushrooms , ground beef , thick >>> slices of onion and topped with a can of Cream O' Something soup . >>> >> Im not even sure my recipe is a real recipeits just something my mom >> made when I was a kid and my daughter likes it, so I make it for her. >> Ive >> never, ever seen nor heard of it anywhere else.* I just googled it and >> cant even find anything super similar online (although I didnt search >> long). >> > * Where do you think "real" recipes came from ? "No Ogg , you stupid > cave dweller , the meat goes over the fire fat side UP !" And thus was > born the first "real" recipe ... > No need to get testy, Terry. Most recipes were originally cobbled together with what was available or using what one could afford. BTW, when it comes to meat, fat side down, sear then turn the meat and let the melting fat baste the meat as it cooks. She wasn't talking about searing meat. She was talking about sliced potatoes in a cream sauce. Jill |
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On 10/13/2018 4:38 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 9:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: >> On 10/12/2018 7:42 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >>> Terry Coombs > wrote: >>>> On 10/12/2018 4:48 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>>> Gary > wrote: >>>>>> Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>>>>> Itâs an uncomfortable 40 degrees out so a comfort classic, >>>>>>> hamburger >>>>>>> hotdish, is on the menu for tonight. >>>>>> I just looked that up. Sounds good. I see many variations after >>>>>> beef and egg noodles. How do you make yours? >>>>>> >>>>> No noodles. Its pretty much scalloped potatoes with carrots, and >>>>> browned >>>>> hamburger (with diced onion) instead of ham.* The ratio of meat >>>>> and carrot >>>>> to potato is higher, too., like 1/3 each. Mixed with a basic >>>>> scalloped >>>>> potato sauce (no cream of soup). Dont skimp on salt and pepper >>>>> else its >>>>> pretty dang bland. Then baked a long dang time until the carrots and >>>>> potatoes are soft, which depends on how thin you cut them.* Hard >>>>> to screw >>>>> up and my kid likes it. I only make it when its the two of us home. >>>>> >>>>> If I were to re-write the recipe using noodles, Id omit the >>>>> carrot, add >>>>> mushrooms, use cream of mush soup and call it stroganoff hotdish.* >>>>> Ha! >>>>> >>>> ** That sounds a bit like a layered casserole my wife useta make , >>>> layers of sliced taters , green beans , mushrooms , ground beef , >>>> thick >>>> slices of onion and topped with a can of Cream O' Something soup . >>>> >>> Im not even sure my recipe is a real recipeits just something >>> my mom >>> made when I was a kid and my daughter likes it, so I make it for >>> her. Ive >>> never, ever seen nor heard of it anywhere else.* I just googled it and >>> cant even find anything super similar online (although I didnt search >>> long). >>> >> ** Where do you think "real" recipes came from ? "No Ogg , you stupid >> cave dweller , the meat goes over the fire fat side UP !" And thus >> was born the first "real" recipe ... >> > No need to get testy, Terry.* Most recipes were originally cobbled > together with what was available or using what one could afford. BTW, > when it comes to meat, fat side down, sear then turn the meat and let > the melting fat baste the meat as it cooks. * See , you just modified the first "real recipe" to improve the dish. I suspect most recipes evolve as we learn and discover new ingredients ... > > She wasn't talking about searing meat.* She was talking about sliced > potatoes in a cream sauce. > > Jill * You're over reacting Jill ... I was just demonstrating the mostly-mundane origins of "real recipes" . -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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On 10/13/2018 6:14 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 10/13/2018 4:38 PM, jmcquown wrote: >> On 10/12/2018 9:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: >>> On 10/12/2018 7:42 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>> Terry Coombs > wrote: >>>>> On 10/12/2018 4:48 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>>>> Gary > wrote: >>>>>>> Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>>>>>> Itâs an uncomfortable 40 degrees out so a comfort classic, >>>>>>>> hamburger >>>>>>>> hotdish, is on the menu for tonight. >>>>>>> I just looked that up. Sounds good. I see many variations after >>>>>>> beef and egg noodles. How do you make yours? >>>>>>> >>>>>> No noodles. Its pretty much scalloped potatoes with carrots, and >>>>>> browned >>>>>> hamburger (with diced onion) instead of ham.* The ratio of meat >>>>>> and carrot >>>>>> to potato is higher, too., like 1/3 each. Mixed with a basic >>>>>> scalloped >>>>>> potato sauce (no cream of soup). Dont skimp on salt and pepper >>>>>> else its >>>>>> pretty dang bland. Then baked a long dang time until the carrots and >>>>>> potatoes are soft, which depends on how thin you cut them.* Hard >>>>>> to screw >>>>>> up and my kid likes it. I only make it when its the two of us home. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I were to re-write the recipe using noodles, Id omit the >>>>>> carrot, add >>>>>> mushrooms, use cream of mush soup and call it stroganoff hotdish. Ha! >>>>>> >>>>> ** That sounds a bit like a layered casserole my wife useta make , >>>>> layers of sliced taters , green beans , mushrooms , ground beef , >>>>> thick >>>>> slices of onion and topped with a can of Cream O' Something soup . >>>>> >>>> Im not even sure my recipe is a real recipeits just something >>>> my mom >>>> made when I was a kid and my daughter likes it, so I make it for >>>> her. Ive >>>> never, ever seen nor heard of it anywhere else.* I just googled it and >>>> cant even find anything super similar online (although I didnt search >>>> long). >>>> >>> ** Where do you think "real" recipes came from ? "No Ogg , you stupid >>> cave dweller , the meat goes over the fire fat side UP !" And thus >>> was born the first "real" recipe ... >>> >> No need to get testy, Terry.* Most recipes were originally cobbled >> together with what was available or using what one could afford. BTW, >> when it comes to meat, fat side down, sear then turn the meat and let >> the melting fat baste the meat as it cooks. > > * See , you just modified the first "real recipe" to improve the dish. > I suspect most recipes evolve as we learn and discover new ingredients ... > > >> >> She wasn't talking about searing meat.* She was talking about sliced >> potatoes in a cream sauce. >> >> Jill > > * You're over reacting Jill ... I was just demonstrating the > mostly-mundane origins of "real recipes" . > You're the one who called her Ogg. ![]() Jill |
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On 10/13/2018 5:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/13/2018 6:14 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: >> On 10/13/2018 4:38 PM, jmcquown wrote: >>> On 10/12/2018 9:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: >>>> On 10/12/2018 7:42 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>>> Terry Coombs > wrote: >>>>>> On 10/12/2018 4:48 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>>>>> Gary > wrote: >>>>>>>> Jinx the Minx wrote: >>>>>>>>> Itâs an uncomfortable 40 degrees out so a comfort classic, >>>>>>>>> hamburger >>>>>>>>> hotdish, is on the menu for tonight. >>>>>>>> I just looked that up. Sounds good. I see many variations after >>>>>>>> beef and egg noodles. How do you make yours? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> No noodles. Its pretty much scalloped potatoes with carrots, >>>>>>> and browned >>>>>>> hamburger (with diced onion) instead of ham.* The ratio of meat >>>>>>> and carrot >>>>>>> to potato is higher, too., like 1/3 each. Mixed with a basic >>>>>>> scalloped >>>>>>> potato sauce (no cream of soup). Dont skimp on salt and pepper >>>>>>> else its >>>>>>> pretty dang bland. Then baked a long dang time until the carrots >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> potatoes are soft, which depends on how thin you cut them.* Hard >>>>>>> to screw >>>>>>> up and my kid likes it. I only make it when its the two of us >>>>>>> home. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I were to re-write the recipe using noodles, Id omit the >>>>>>> carrot, add >>>>>>> mushrooms, use cream of mush soup and call it stroganoff >>>>>>> hotdish. Ha! >>>>>>> >>>>>> ** That sounds a bit like a layered casserole my wife useta make , >>>>>> layers of sliced taters , green beans , mushrooms , ground beef , >>>>>> thick >>>>>> slices of onion and topped with a can of Cream O' Something soup . >>>>>> >>>>> Im not even sure my recipe is a real recipeits just something >>>>> my mom >>>>> made when I was a kid and my daughter likes it, so I make it for >>>>> her. Ive >>>>> never, ever seen nor heard of it anywhere else.* I just googled it >>>>> and >>>>> cant even find anything super similar online (although I didnt >>>>> search >>>>> long). >>>>> >>>> ** Where do you think "real" recipes came from ? "No Ogg , you >>>> stupid cave dweller , the meat goes over the fire fat side UP !" >>>> And thus was born the first "real" recipe ... >>>> >>> No need to get testy, Terry.* Most recipes were originally cobbled >>> together with what was available or using what one could afford. >>> BTW, when it comes to meat, fat side down, sear then turn the meat >>> and let the melting fat baste the meat as it cooks. >> >> ** See , you just modified the first "real recipe" to improve the >> dish. I suspect most recipes evolve as we learn and discover new >> ingredients ... >> >> >>> >>> She wasn't talking about searing meat.* She was talking about sliced >>> potatoes in a cream sauce. >>> >>> Jill >> >> ** You're over reacting Jill ... I was just demonstrating the >> mostly-mundane origins of "real recipes" . >> > You're the one who called her Ogg. ![]() > > Jill Sweet Jesus Jill , do I have to put a disclaimer in every post ? Ogg was a fictional cave dweller thought up for the purpose of demonstrating how easily a recipe can be originated ... -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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