"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 5:12:49 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
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> It's ok, there's something i didnt click right on the picture so it
> didnt share right.
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> Carbs are a fad no-no right now. Used correctly, they are a non-issue.

I have eaten some carbs recently. What I'm not going to do is bake bread or
cook rice. Those are no-nos.

==

Which you are doing for your health!

On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 9:46:11 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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> ==
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> Which you are doing for your health!

My main goal is to get off of diabetes meds. Is that attainable? Ay, that's the rub!

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 9:46:11 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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> ==
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> Which you are doing for your health!

My main goal is to get off of diabetes meds. Is that attainable? Ay, that's
the rub!

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I suppose it depends on whether you are type 2 or type 1!

D has type 2 and has no meds. That was down to food. He has been clear for
so long now that he does have some carbs but his preferences have changed.
Ie today he wants cauliflower rice as a side.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "dsi1" wrote in message
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> On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 9:46:11 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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>> ==
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>> Which you are doing for your health!
>
> My main goal is to get off of diabetes meds. Is that attainable? Ay,
> that's
> the rub!
>
> ===
>
> I suppose it depends on whether you are type 2 or type 1!

Type 1's generally do not take meds. They have to take insulin. Type 2's may
or may not take insulin and/or meds. I take both.
>
> D has type 2 and has no meds. That was down to food. He has been clear
> for so long now that he does have some carbs but his preferences have
> changed. Ie today he wants cauliflower rice as a side.

I wish it was just down to food for me. There is also type 3 (Alzheimer's)
and 3c.

https://www.pancreapedia.org/reviews...pe-3c-diabetes

"Julie Bove" wrote in message news

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "dsi1" wrote in message
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> On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 9:46:11 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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>> ==
>>
>> Which you are doing for your health!
>
> My main goal is to get off of diabetes meds. Is that attainable? Ay,
> that's
> the rub!
>
> ===
>
> I suppose it depends on whether you are type 2 or type 1!

Type 1's generally do not take meds. They have to take insulin.


Insulin is not a med????


Type 2's may
or may not take insulin and/or meds. I take both.
>
> D has type 2 and has no meds. That was down to food. He has been clear
> for so long now that he does have some carbs but his preferences have
> changed. Ie today he wants cauliflower rice as a side.

I wish it was just down to food for me. There is also type 3 (Alzheimer's)
and 3c.

https://www.pancreapedia.org/reviews...pe-3c-diabetes

On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 11:52:03 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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> ===
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> I suppose it depends on whether you are type 2 or type 1!
>
> D has type 2 and has no meds. That was down to food. He has been clear for
> so long now that he does have some carbs but his preferences have changed.
> Ie today he wants cauliflower rice as a side.

I think you are correct about that. Congrats on beating diabetes.

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 11:52:03 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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> ===
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> I suppose it depends on whether you are type 2 or type 1!
>
> D has type 2 and has no meds. That was down to food. He has been clear
> for
> so long now that he does have some carbs but his preferences have changed.
> Ie today he wants cauliflower rice as a side.

I think you are correct about that. Congrats on beating diabetes.

==

Dunno if we have beaten it. Maybe for now! His tests are clear but .. who
knows??

"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 11:52:03 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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>> ===
>>
>> I suppose it depends on whether you are type 2 or type 1!
>>
>> D has type 2 and has no meds. That was down to food. He has been clear
>> for
>> so long now that he does have some carbs but his preferences have
>> changed.
>> Ie today he wants cauliflower rice as a side.
>
> I think you are correct about that. Congrats on beating diabetes.


Except you never beat it, you control it. Get crazy with lifestyle, and it's
right there again.

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 11:52:03 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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>> ===
>>
>> I suppose it depends on whether you are type 2 or type 1!
>>
>> D has type 2 and has no meds. That was down to food. He has been clear
>> for
>> so long now that he does have some carbs but his preferences have
>> changed.
>> Ie today he wants cauliflower rice as a side.
>
> I think you are correct about that. Congrats on beating diabetes.


Except you never beat it, you control it. Get crazy with lifestyle, and it's
right there again.

Cheri

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Oh yes! Have your taste preferences change over the time you have been low
carbing?

On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:16:06 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

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>"Cheri" wrote in message news >
>"dsi1" > wrote in message
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>> On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 11:52:03 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> I suppose it depends on whether you are type 2 or type 1!
>>>
>>> D has type 2 and has no meds. That was down to food. He has been clear
>>> for
>>> so long now that he does have some carbs but his preferences have
>>> changed.
>>> Ie today he wants cauliflower rice as a side.
>>
>> I think you are correct about that. Congrats on beating diabetes.
>
>
>Except you never beat it, you control it. Get crazy with lifestyle, and it's
>right there again.
>
>Cheri
>
>==
>
>Oh yes! Have your taste preferences change over the time you have been low
>carbing?

There was a low carber in rfc once who said that on her deathbed,
she'd want to eat the crust of a pizza.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
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>> On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 11:52:03 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> I suppose it depends on whether you are type 2 or type 1!
>>>
>>> D has type 2 and has no meds. That was down to food. He has been clear
>>> for
>>> so long now that he does have some carbs but his preferences have
>>> changed.
>>> Ie today he wants cauliflower rice as a side.
>>
>> I think you are correct about that. Congrats on beating diabetes.
>
>
> Except you never beat it, you control it. Get crazy with lifestyle, and
> it's
> right there again.
>
> Cheri
>
> ==
>
> Oh yes! Have your taste preferences change over the time you have been
> low carbing?
>


Sure, I no longer crave a lot of carby things, and actually prefer some
things more than the "real" things. Some things I do crave like bread and
potatoes, etc. but I do eat them in moderation.

Cheri

"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 9:46:11 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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>> ==
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>> Which you are doing for your health!
>
> My main goal is to get off of diabetes meds. Is that attainable? Ay,
> that's the rub!

I've been on them, off them, on them again. Now on them and insulin too. For
me, food is the least of my issues.

Julie Bove wrote:
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> "dsi1" > wrote in message
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> > On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 9:46:11 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >>
> >> ==
> >>
> >> Which you are doing for your health!
> >
> > My main goal is to get off of diabetes meds. Is that attainable? Ay,
> > that's the rub!
>
> I've been on them, off them, on them again. Now on them and insulin too. For
> me, food is the least of my issues.

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True or not true? And I don't know - I'm asking...

Seems that with type 2, first is to lose weight, eat less carbs
(and maybe total calories too for the weight thing) then also
start a good exercise regime especially aerobic type exercises.
At least regular long fast walks.

Again.....I'm asking.
Is that basically right?

On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 8:54:44 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
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> > "dsi1" > wrote in message
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> > > On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 9:46:11 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ==
> > >>
> > >> Which you are doing for your health!
> > >
> > > My main goal is to get off of diabetes meds. Is that attainable? Ay,
> > > that's the rub!
> >
> > I've been on them, off them, on them again. Now on them and insulin too. For
> > me, food is the least of my issues.
>
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> True or not true? And I don't know - I'm asking...
>
> Seems that with type 2, first is to lose weight, eat less carbs
> (and maybe total calories too for the weight thing) then also
> start a good exercise regime especially aerobic type exercises.
> At least regular long fast walks.

Provided one is physically capable of long, fast walks. My husband
can manage a stroll of less than 1000 feet. He doesn't yet have
diabetes, but it's only a matter of time, I think.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 06:16:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 8:54:44 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > I've been on them, off them, on them again. Now on them and insulin too. For
>> > me, food is the least of my issues.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> True or not true? And I don't know - I'm asking...
>>
>> Seems that with type 2, first is to lose weight, eat less carbs
>> (and maybe total calories too for the weight thing) then also
>> start a good exercise regime especially aerobic type exercises.
>> At least regular long fast walks.
>
>Provided one is physically capable of long, fast walks. My husband
>can manage a stroll of less than 1000 feet. He doesn't yet have
>diabetes, but it's only a matter of time, I think.

If you don't have it yet, can't you avoid getting it by adjusting your
lifestyle? Isn't type 2 the result of lifestyle?

"Brice" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 06:16:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
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>>On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 8:54:44 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I've been on them, off them, on them again. Now on them and insulin
>>> > too. For
>>> > me, food is the least of my issues.
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> True or not true? And I don't know - I'm asking...
>>>
>>> Seems that with type 2, first is to lose weight, eat less carbs
>>> (and maybe total calories too for the weight thing) then also
>>> start a good exercise regime especially aerobic type exercises.
>>> At least regular long fast walks.
>>
>>Provided one is physically capable of long, fast walks. My husband
>>can manage a stroll of less than 1000 feet. He doesn't yet have
>>diabetes, but it's only a matter of time, I think.
>
> If you don't have it yet, can't you avoid getting it by adjusting your
> lifestyle? Isn't type 2 the result of lifestyle?


Not always, but much can be prevented with keeping weight in check, eating
right, etc., especially complications, some of which are made worse by some
of the medication, especially when people take more and more pills and
insulin because they don't want to change their lifestyle at all.

Cheri

On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 1:17:56 PM UTC-4, Brice wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 06:16:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 8:54:44 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> Julie Bove wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I've been on them, off them, on them again. Now on them and insulin too. For
> >> > me, food is the least of my issues.
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> True or not true? And I don't know - I'm asking...
> >>
> >> Seems that with type 2, first is to lose weight, eat less carbs
> >> (and maybe total calories too for the weight thing) then also
> >> start a good exercise regime especially aerobic type exercises.
> >> At least regular long fast walks.
> >
> >Provided one is physically capable of long, fast walks. My husband
> >can manage a stroll of less than 1000 feet. He doesn't yet have
> >diabetes, but it's only a matter of time, I think.
>
> If you don't have it yet, can't you avoid getting it by adjusting your
> lifestyle? Isn't type 2 the result of lifestyle?

Not always lifestyle, but very, very frequently.

What adjustment would you suggest for a man who cannot walk
more than 1000 feet (that's about 300 meters), nor at a pace
exceeding a stroll? He will never be capable of exceeding
that performance due to spinal stenosis.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 1:09:17 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
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> I've been on them, off them, on them again. Now on them and insulin too. For
> me, food is the least of my issues.

That's unfortunate, but good luck to you!