On 2018-09-20 10:02 AM, wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:46:16 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>
>>
>> On 19-Sep-2018, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:32:40 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18-Sep-2018, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Do you have metal replacement gears for the more "modern" KitchenAid
>>>>> mixers? :-)
>>>>
>>>> Sorry; but, I do not. The parts I provision, some newly made, others
>>>> recycled, are for Rival and Magic Hostess (metal bodied) meat slicers,
>>>> Kitcheneer and Shred-o-matic appliances of the 60s-80s.
>>>
>>> That seems to ring a bell now. I've always wanted a real meat
>>> slicer. You know, 400 RPM with the the automatic shuttle and feeder
>>> - kind of like they use (or used) at Arby's back in the dayz. Just
>>> set it and forget it!
>>
>> I know the slicers you mean; I have lusted for one as well. But, I settled
>> for an old Rival workhorse. A few years back, when I baked a lot of bread,
>> I lusted for a Berkel bread slicer.
>
> Unless you're selling sliced loaves it doesn't make sense to slice a
> lot of bread before eating it.... use a bread knife to slice as
> needed.


If there are enough people around to eat a loaf of bread within a day or
two will slice it as needed. My wife rarely eats bread and I only eat a
slice or two a day, so I keep bread in the freezer. It is hard to slice
frozen bread, so I get sliced bread from our local bakery and take out a
slice or two as needed.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:20:15 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-09-20 10:02 AM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:46:16 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 19-Sep-2018, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:32:40 GMT, l not -l wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18-Sep-2018, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have metal replacement gears for the more "modern" KitchenAid
>>>>>> mixers? :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry; but, I do not. The parts I provision, some newly made, others
>>>>> recycled, are for Rival and Magic Hostess (metal bodied) meat slicers,
>>>>> Kitcheneer and Shred-o-matic appliances of the 60s-80s.
>>>>
>>>> That seems to ring a bell now. I've always wanted a real meat
>>>> slicer. You know, 400 RPM with the the automatic shuttle and feeder
>>>> - kind of like they use (or used) at Arby's back in the dayz. Just
>>>> set it and forget it!
>>>
>>> I know the slicers you mean; I have lusted for one as well. But, I settled
>>> for an old Rival workhorse. A few years back, when I baked a lot of bread,
>>> I lusted for a Berkel bread slicer.
>>
>> Unless you're selling sliced loaves it doesn't make sense to slice a
>> lot of bread before eating it.... use a bread knife to slice as
>> needed.
>
>
>If there are enough people around to eat a loaf of bread within a day or
>two will slice it as needed. My wife rarely eats bread and I only eat a
>slice or two a day, so I keep bread in the freezer. It is hard to slice
>frozen bread, so I get sliced bread from our local bakery and take out a
>slice or two as needed.

I found that when sliced bread is frozen the slices stick together.
When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy
packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
loaf is defrosted in the fridge. About half the time we buy hard
rolls. We obviously consume more bread than you... and we both prefer
different types of bread. My wife prefers multi-grain breads, loaded
with seeds... I like bread with seeds but my teeth don't enjoy it, She
toasts her bread, I rarely toast bread. I can tell when she's
toasting bread, invariably the smoke alarm goes off.

>> If there are enough people around to eat a loaf of bread within a day or
>> two will slice it as needed. My wife rarely eats bread and I only eat a
>> slice or two a day, so I keep bread in the freezer. It is hard to slice
>> frozen bread, so I get sliced bread from our local bakery and take out a
>> slice or two as needed.
>
> I found that when sliced bread is frozen the slices stick together.

Sometimes they do stick a little. It is only our baker's sourdough whole
wheat that I have trouble prying apart. Sometimes I have to slide a
knife in and pry it a bit. The rest of the time I can pull it off by
hand. The regular whole wheat separated much more easily. I am careful
how I put it into the freezer and make sure that it is not bent and
mutilated because that makes it hard to separate when frozen.


> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy
> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.
However, I love of bread lasts me about a week and a half. It would go
from fresh to stale to an penicillin project before I got through it.

> About half the time we buy hard
> rolls. We obviously consume more bread than you... and we both prefer
> different types of bread. My wife prefers multi-grain breads, loaded
> with seeds... I like bread with seeds but my teeth don't enjoy it, She
> toasts her bread, I rarely toast bread. I can tell when she's
> toasting bread, invariably the smoke alarm goes off.

I like whole wheat rolls, but good ones are hard to find. Our regular
baker makes good ones, but they are expensive. I was getting white
dinner rolls from an Italian bakery on one town but the last two times
they were not fresh. Actually, two batches ago the owner warned me they
were day old. That's fine because they were going in the freezer anyway,
and day olds from the freezer are as good as those bought fresh then
frozen. They turned out to have been a lot more than day old. They were
stale. The next time I bought fresh rolls and they were half stale.

Last week I started picking them up at a different Italian bakery. The
rolls were fresher and froze nicely. When thawed for use they were very
fresh tasting.

On 2018-09-20 10:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>
>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days.Â* When we buy
>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.

NEVER keep bread in the fridge!

"graham" > wrote in message
news
> On 2018-09-20 10:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
>>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy
>>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
>>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
>> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.
>
> NEVER keep bread in the fridge!



Why not?

Cheri

On 2018-09-20 10:34 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "graham" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 2018-09-20 10:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
>>>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy
>>>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
>>>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
>>> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.
>>
>> NEVER keep bread in the fridge!
>
>
>
> Why not?
>
> Cheri
It stales faster.

On 2018-09-20 10:38 AM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-09-20 10:34 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "graham" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 2018-09-20 10:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
>>>>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy
>>>>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
>>>>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
>>>> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.
>>>
>>> NEVER keep bread in the fridge!
>>
>>
>>
>> Why not?
>>
>> Cheri
> It stales faster.
To regular bread bakers, that's Bread 101!

"graham" > wrote in message
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> On 2018-09-20 10:34 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "graham" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 2018-09-20 10:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
>>>>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy
>>>>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
>>>>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
>>>> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.
>>>
>>> NEVER keep bread in the fridge!
>>
>>
>>
>> Why not?
>>
>> Cheri
> It stales faster.


OK, but I haven't really found that to be true with the bread I buy, not
often, but if I leave it out, it molds quickly. I think you mostly make your
own?

Cheri

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:38:59 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-09-20 10:34 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "graham" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 2018-09-20 10:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
>>>>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy
>>>>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
>>>>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
>>>> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.
>>>
>>> NEVER keep bread in the fridge!
>>
>>
>>
>> Why not?
>>
>> Cheri
>It stales faster.

Faster than???

Cheri wrote:
>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> news
> > On 2018-09-20 10:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
> >>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy
> >>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
> >>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
> >> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.
> >
> > NEVER keep bread in the fridge!
>
> Why not?
>
> Cheri

As old as you are, you should know.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "graham" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > On 2018-09-20 10:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
>> >>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy
>> >>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
>> >>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
>> >> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the
>> >> fridge.
>> >
>> > NEVER keep bread in the fridge!
>>
>> Why not?
>>
>> Cheri
>
> As old as you are, you should know.


It's never been a problem for me and I have a whole lot of years to go by.


Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"graham" > wrote in message
news
> On 2018-09-20 10:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
>>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy
>>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
>>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
>> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.
>
> NEVER keep bread in the fridge!



Why not?

Cheri

==

I make all our bread and I don't eat much, so I put half in the freezer.
I've never thought of putting it in the fridge. It seems to keep ok in the
bread bin until he needs the other half.

On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 9:10:28 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> ==
>
> I make all our bread and I don't eat much, so I put half in the freezer.
> I've never thought of putting it in the fridge. It seems to keep ok in the
> bread bin until he needs the other half.

I'll sometimes put bread in the refrigerator to keep it from getting moldy. Mold is a problem in the tropics so I can appreciate bread that contains a lot of chemicals that suppress that green stuff. I don't mind if the bread is stale. Stale bread I can eat. OTOH, I won't be eating bread for a while..

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:32:50 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-09-20 10:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
>>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days.* When we buy
>>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
>>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
>> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.
>
>NEVER keep bread in the fridge!

don't even bother trying, Graham.

On 2018-09-20 11:09 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:32:50 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-09-20 10:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
>>>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days.Â* When we buy
>>>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
>>>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
>>> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.
>>
>> NEVER keep bread in the fridge!
>
> don't even bother trying, Graham.
>
I know I shouldn't have bothered but I've a bad cold and don't feel like
doing much except mindlessly swanning about on the computer:-(

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:09:49 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:32:50 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 2018-09-20 10:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
>>>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days.* When we buy
>>>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
>>>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
>>> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.
>>
>>NEVER keep bread in the fridge!
>
>don't even bother trying, Graham.

Asking Janet US not to be pompous and up her own bum is like asking a
frog's ass not to be watertight.

graham wrote:
>
> On 2018-09-20 10:24 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >
> >> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
> >> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy
> >> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
> >> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
> > If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.
>
> NEVER keep bread in the fridge!

Agree. Whenever I buy a fresh loaf, it stays out room temp for up
to a week. After that, I'll put it in fridge for toast and buy a
new loaf for fresh.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:24:39 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>
>>> If there are enough people around to eat a loaf of bread within a day or
>>> two will slice it as needed. My wife rarely eats bread and I only eat a
>>> slice or two a day, so I keep bread in the freezer. It is hard to slice
>>> frozen bread, so I get sliced bread from our local bakery and take out a
>>> slice or two as needed.
>>
>> I found that when sliced bread is frozen the slices stick together.
>
>Sometimes they do stick a little. It is only our baker's sourdough whole
>wheat that I have trouble prying apart. Sometimes I have to slide a
>knife in and pry it a bit. The rest of the time I can pull it off by
>hand. The regular whole wheat separated much more easily. I am careful
>how I put it into the freezer and make sure that it is not bent and
>mutilated because that makes it hard to separate when frozen.
>
>
>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy
>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire
>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge.
>If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the fridge.
>However, I love of bread lasts me about a week and a half. It would go
>from fresh to stale to an penicillin project before I got through it.
>
> > About half the time we buy hard
>> rolls. We obviously consume more bread than you... and we both prefer
>> different types of bread. My wife prefers multi-grain breads, loaded
>> with seeds... I like bread with seeds but my teeth don't enjoy it, She
>> toasts her bread, I rarely toast bread. I can tell when she's
>> toasting bread, invariably the smoke alarm goes off.
>
>I like whole wheat rolls, but good ones are hard to find. Our regular
>baker makes good ones, but they are expensive. I was getting white
>dinner rolls from an Italian bakery on one town but the last two times
>they were not fresh. Actually, two batches ago the owner warned me they
>were day old. That's fine because they were going in the freezer anyway,
>and day olds from the freezer are as good as those bought fresh then
>frozen. They turned out to have been a lot more than day old. They were
>stale. The next time I bought fresh rolls and they were half stale.
>
>Last week I started picking them up at a different Italian bakery. The
>rolls were fresher and froze nicely. When thawed for use they were very
>fresh tasting.

Since discovering this brand it's mostly all we buy.
http://www.heidelbergbread.com/bread/

On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 12:39:47 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> Since discovering this brand it's mostly all we buy.
> http://www.heidelbergbread.com/bread/
>
>
New York state only.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 12:39:47 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> Since discovering this brand it's mostly all we buy.
>> http://www.heidelbergbread.com/bread/
>>
>New York state only.

And sold in a fairly localized area close to their bakery.
It's a better product than many neighborhood bakeries.

On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 08:39:37 -0400, wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 12:39:47 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> Since discovering this brand it's mostly all we buy.
>>> http://www.heidelbergbread.com/bread/
>>>
>>New York state only.
>
>And sold in a fairly localized area close to their bakery.
>It's a better product than many neighborhood bakeries.

I doubt that, because you don't have the freshness. Other than that,
they look good.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:32:05 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:02:23 -0400, wrote:
>
>> I found that when sliced bread is frozen the slices stick together.
>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as
>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy
>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge...
>
>Bakery bread in the refrigerator? TIAD! Every moron knows not to
>store bread in the fridge. It stales 7 times faster in the fridge
>than at room temp and loses proper texture within a day.
>
>TIAD!
>
>-sw

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