https://nypost.com/2018/09/04/justin...e-he-deserves/

Justin Trudeau finally gets the trade trouble he deserves

By F.H. Buckley September 4, 2018

"If youre trying to make sense out of the NAFTA negotiations, where Canada is suddenly rushing to avoid being shut out of a US-Mexico deal, consider this: With his insufferable moral arrogance, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been cruising for a bruising €” and now hes gotten it.

Given Trudeaus attempt to reinvent the country as the smarmy Eddie Haskell of nations, its been fun to watch €” but lets make sure it doesnt end up costing both Canada and the United States.

Trudeaus first rude awakening, by the way, didnt come at the hands of Team Trump. Justin had become a laughingstock when visiting India last February, where he dressed the family Bollywood-style. Even the Indians thought he was a joke.

More serious was his next reality check, via the Saudis. The Canadian foreign ministry had tweeted that Saudi Arabia should release womens-rights activists, and the Saudis responded by closing their embassy, ordering Saudi students to return home and freezing all trade ties. Diplomatically, thats going rogue.

Remarkably, the US refused to take sides. Our State Department simply asked both parties to work it out.

Then came Trumps rebuff of Trudeau over the NAFTA talks. The Canadians had assumed they were in the drivers seat, and presented a set of initial demands that were guaranteed to infuriate Trump. They wanted gender equality and native rights to be on the table, and suggested that right-to-work laws were an unfair trade practice.

They took their time bargaining, and let the Mexicans know that theyd look after them. They knew Trump had problems with Mexico and told Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto theyd stick up for him.

Except that Justin had gone out of his way to annoy Trump. When the G-7 assembled in Quebec last June, Trudeau prepared the wokiest of politically correct topics to discuss, and showed he was peeved when Trump turned up late at a session.

It all came undone over the last two weeks. First, the Mexicans, to whom the Canadians had condescended, showed that they didnt need Trudeaus help and cut a deal with Trump that excluded Canada. Of course we want Canada to be included in NAFTA, they said. But you have to understand that, for us, Mexico comes first and we need a trade deal with the US.

So much for the three amigos.

After the deal with Mexico was announced, Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland cut short a European visit to come to Washington and negotiate with the US trade representative. While the talks were ongoing, the Toronto Star revealed that Trump had said off the record that the United States wasnt going to bend on any item. If they had problems with that, he said he had an easy answer. Hed show them a picture of the Chevy Impala, which is made in Oshawa, Ontario, and shipped to the US duty-free under NAFTA.

If NAFTA goes down, Canada will be the big loser, especially in its auto industry, where 120,000 Canadian jobs are at stake. But we also would be losers. The auto industry has suppliers on both sides of the border and just-in-time production methods would put thousands of Americans immediately out of work if Detroits Ambassador Bridge were shut down for a few days.. As it is, more US trade crosses over that bridge than our entire trade with Japan.

Trump worries about trade deficits, but were running a trade surplus in goods and service with Canada, and its one of the very few countries of which that can be said. Its the most important trading partner for 35 states, and as many as 9 million US jobs depend on trade with Canada.

Its not as if there will be much daylight between the two countries, when trade negotiations begin on Wednesday. Were not happy with Canadas supply-management system, which subsidizes eggs and milk products €” and thats something the Canadians should be happy to give up, since it costs the average Canadian family $150 a year.

The Canadians also want a dispute-resolution mechanism, which could prove an advantage to the US as well as Canada. Everybody cheats, and it wouldnt hurt to have neutral parties work things out.

So both sides should be able to compromise and get to yes. Given the two leaders personalities, its easy to see how the Canada-US deal could fall apart. Lets hope it doesnt..."

F.H. Buckley is the author of the new book €œThe Republican Workers Party: How the Trump Victory Drove Everyone Crazy, and Why It Was Just What We Needed.€�

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:48:40 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote:

>https://nypost.com/2018/09/04/justin...e-he-deserves/
>
>Justin Trudeau finally gets the trade trouble he deserves
>
>By F.H. Buckley September 4, 2018
>
>"If you’re trying to make sense out of the NAFTA negotiations, where Canada is suddenly rushing to avoid being shut out of a US-Mexico deal, consider this: With his insufferable moral arrogance, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been cruising for a bruising — and now he’s gotten it.
>
>Given Trudeau’s attempt to reinvent the country as the smarmy Eddie Haskell of nations, it’s been fun to watch — but let’s make sure it doesn’t end up costing both Canada and the United States.
>
>Trudeau’s first rude awakening, by the way, didn’t come at the hands of Team Trump. Justin had become a laughingstock when visiting India last February, where he dressed the family Bollywood-style. Even the Indians thought he was a joke.
>
>More serious was his next reality check, via the Saudis. The Canadian foreign ministry had tweeted that Saudi Arabia should release women’s-rights activists, and the Saudis responded by closing their embassy, ordering Saudi students to return home and freezing all trade ties. Diplomatically, that’s going rogue.
>
>Remarkably, the US refused to take sides. Our State Department simply asked both parties to work it out.
>
>Then came Trump’s rebuff of Trudeau over the NAFTA talks. The Canadians had assumed they were in the driver’s seat, and presented a set of initial demands that were guaranteed to infuriate Trump. They wanted gender equality and native rights to be on the table, and suggested that right-to-work laws were an unfair trade practice.
>
>They took their time bargaining, and let the Mexicans know that they’d look after them. They knew Trump had problems with Mexico and told Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto they’d stick up for him.
>
>Except that Justin had gone out of his way to annoy Trump. When the G-7 assembled in Quebec last June, Trudeau prepared the wokiest of politically correct topics to discuss, and showed he was peeved when Trump turned up late at a session.
>
>It all came undone over the last two weeks. First, the Mexicans, to whom the Canadians had condescended, showed that they didn’t need Trudeau’s help and cut a deal with Trump that excluded Canada. Of course we want Canada to be included in NAFTA, they said. But you have to understand that, for us, Mexico comes first and we need a trade deal with the US.
>
>So much for the three amigos.
>
>After the deal with Mexico was announced, Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland cut short a European visit to come to Washington and negotiate with the US trade representative. While the talks were ongoing, the Toronto Star revealed that Trump had said off the record that the United States wasn’t going to bend on any item. If they had problems with that, he said he had an easy answer. He’d show them a picture of the Chevy Impala, which is made in Oshawa, Ontario, and shipped to the US duty-free under NAFTA.
>
>If NAFTA goes down, Canada will be the big loser, especially in its auto industry, where 120,000 Canadian jobs are at stake. But we also would be losers. The auto industry has suppliers on both sides of the border and just-in-time production methods would put thousands of Americans immediately out of work if Detroit’s Ambassador Bridge were shut down for a few days. As it is, more US trade crosses over that bridge than our entire trade with Japan.
>
>Trump worries about trade deficits, but we’re running a trade surplus in goods and service with Canada, and it’s one of the very few countries of which that can be said. It’s the most important trading partner for 35 states, and as many as 9 million US jobs depend on trade with Canada.
>
>It’s not as if there will be much daylight between the two countries, when trade negotiations begin on Wednesday. We’re not happy with Canada’s supply-management system, which subsidizes eggs and milk products — and that’s something the Canadians should be happy to give up, since it costs the average Canadian family $150 a year.
>
>The Canadians also want a dispute-resolution mechanism, which could prove an advantage to the US as well as Canada. Everybody cheats, and it wouldn’t hurt to have neutral parties work things out.
>
>So both sides should be able to compromise and get to yes. Given the two leaders’ personalities, it’s easy to see how the Canada-US deal could fall apart. Let’s hope it doesn’t..."
>
>F.H. Buckley is the author of the new book “The Republican Workers Party: How the Trump Victory Drove Everyone Crazy, and Why It Was Just What We Needed.”

I wonder why the US didn't take sides in the conflict between Canada
and barbaric state Saudi Arabia. Could it have been because of money,
money, money? Are the US's morals for sale? To ask the question is to
answer it.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 07:55:43 +1000, Druce >
wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:48:40 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote:
>
>>https://nypost.com/2018/09/04/justin...e-he-deserves/
>>
>>Justin Trudeau finally gets the trade trouble he deserves
>>
>>By F.H. Buckley September 4, 2018
>>
>>"If you’re trying to make sense out of the NAFTA negotiations, where Canada is suddenly rushing to avoid being shut out of a US-Mexico deal, consider this: With his insufferable moral arrogance, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been cruising for a bruising — and now he’s gotten it.
>>
>>Given Trudeau’s attempt to reinvent the country as the smarmy Eddie Haskell of nations, it’s been fun to watch — but let’s make sure it doesn’t end up costing both Canada and the United States.
>>
>>Trudeau’s first rude awakening, by the way, didn’t come at the hands of Team Trump. Justin had become a laughingstock when visiting India last February, where he dressed the family Bollywood-style. Even the Indians thought he was a joke.
>>
>>More serious was his next reality check, via the Saudis. The Canadian foreign ministry had tweeted that Saudi Arabia should release women’s-rights activists, and the Saudis responded by closing their embassy, ordering Saudi students to return home and freezing all trade ties. Diplomatically, that’s going rogue.
>>
>>Remarkably, the US refused to take sides. Our State Department simply asked both parties to work it out.
>>
>>Then came Trump’s rebuff of Trudeau over the NAFTA talks. The Canadians had assumed they were in the driver’s seat, and presented a set of initial demands that were guaranteed to infuriate Trump. They wanted gender equality and native rights to be on the table, and suggested that right-to-work laws were an unfair trade practice.
>>
>>They took their time bargaining, and let the Mexicans know that they’d look after them. They knew Trump had problems with Mexico and told Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto they’d stick up for him.
>>
>>Except that Justin had gone out of his way to annoy Trump. When the G-7 assembled in Quebec last June, Trudeau prepared the wokiest of politically correct topics to discuss, and showed he was peeved when Trump turned up late at a session.
>>
>>It all came undone over the last two weeks. First, the Mexicans, to whom the Canadians had condescended, showed that they didn’t need Trudeau’s help and cut a deal with Trump that excluded Canada. Of course we want Canada to be included in NAFTA, they said. But you have to understand that, for us, Mexico comes first and we need a trade deal with the US.
>>
>>So much for the three amigos.
>>
>>After the deal with Mexico was announced, Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland cut short a European visit to come to Washington and negotiate with the US trade representative. While the talks were ongoing, the Toronto Star revealed that Trump had said off the record that the United States wasn’t going to bend on any item. If they had problems with that, he said he had an easy answer. He’d show them a picture of the Chevy Impala, which is made in Oshawa, Ontario, and shipped to the US duty-free under NAFTA.
>>
>>If NAFTA goes down, Canada will be the big loser, especially in its auto industry, where 120,000 Canadian jobs are at stake. But we also would be losers. The auto industry has suppliers on both sides of the border and just-in-time production methods would put thousands of Americans immediately out of work if Detroit’s Ambassador Bridge were shut down for a few days. As it is, more US trade crosses over that bridge than our entire trade with Japan.
>>
>>Trump worries about trade deficits, but we’re running a trade surplus in goods and service with Canada, and it’s one of the very few countries of which that can be said. It’s the most important trading partner for 35 states, and as many as 9 million US jobs depend on trade with Canada.
>>
>>It’s not as if there will be much daylight between the two countries, when trade negotiations begin on Wednesday. We’re not happy with Canada’s supply-management system, which subsidizes eggs and milk products — and that’s something the Canadians should be happy to give up, since it costs the average Canadian family $150 a year.
>>
>>The Canadians also want a dispute-resolution mechanism, which could prove an advantage to the US as well as Canada. Everybody cheats, and it wouldn’t hurt to have neutral parties work things out.
>>
>>So both sides should be able to compromise and get to yes. Given the two leaders’ personalities, it’s easy to see how the Canada-US deal could fall apart. Let’s hope it doesn’t..."
>>
>>F.H. Buckley is the author of the new book “The Republican Workers Party: How the Trump Victory Drove Everyone Crazy, and Why It Was Just What We Needed.”
>
>I wonder why the US didn't take sides in the conflict between Canada
>and barbaric state Saudi Arabia. Could it have been because of money,
>money, money? Are the US's morals for sale? To ask the question is to
>answer it.

It's more of the Trumpism at work, not news, not correct.

On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 19:59:44 -0300, wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 07:55:43 +1000, Druce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:48:40 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote:
>>
>>>https://nypost.com/2018/09/04/justin...e-he-deserves/
>>>
>>>Justin Trudeau finally gets the trade trouble he deserves
>>>
>>>By F.H. Buckley September 4, 2018
>>>
>>>"If you’re trying to make sense out of the NAFTA negotiations, where Canada is suddenly rushing to avoid being shut out of a US-Mexico deal, consider this: With his insufferable moral arrogance, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been cruising for a bruising — and now he’s gotten it.
>>>
>>>Given Trudeau’s attempt to reinvent the country as the smarmy Eddie Haskell of nations, it’s been fun to watch — but let’s make sure it doesn’t end up costing both Canada and the United States.
>>>
>>>Trudeau’s first rude awakening, by the way, didn’t come at the hands of Team Trump. Justin had become a laughingstock when visiting India last February, where he dressed the family Bollywood-style. Even the Indians thought he was a joke.
>>>
>>>More serious was his next reality check, via the Saudis. The Canadian foreign ministry had tweeted that Saudi Arabia should release women’s-rights activists, and the Saudis responded by closing their embassy, ordering Saudi students to return home and freezing all trade ties. Diplomatically, that’s going rogue.
>>>
>>>Remarkably, the US refused to take sides. Our State Department simply asked both parties to work it out.
>>>
>>>Then came Trump’s rebuff of Trudeau over the NAFTA talks. The Canadians had assumed they were in the driver’s seat, and presented a set of initial demands that were guaranteed to infuriate Trump. They wanted gender equality and native rights to be on the table, and suggested that right-to-work laws were an unfair trade practice.
>>>
>>>They took their time bargaining, and let the Mexicans know that they’d look after them. They knew Trump had problems with Mexico and told Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto they’d stick up for him.
>>>
>>>Except that Justin had gone out of his way to annoy Trump. When the G-7 assembled in Quebec last June, Trudeau prepared the wokiest of politically correct topics to discuss, and showed he was peeved when Trump turned up late at a session.
>>>
>>>It all came undone over the last two weeks. First, the Mexicans, to whom the Canadians had condescended, showed that they didn’t need Trudeau’s help and cut a deal with Trump that excluded Canada. Of course we want Canada to be included in NAFTA, they said. But you have to understand that, for us, Mexico comes first and we need a trade deal with the US.
>>>
>>>So much for the three amigos.
>>>
>>>After the deal with Mexico was announced, Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland cut short a European visit to come to Washington and negotiate with the US trade representative. While the talks were ongoing, the Toronto Star revealed that Trump had said off the record that the United States wasn’t going to bend on any item. If they had problems with that, he said he had an easy answer. He’d show them a picture of the Chevy Impala, which is made in Oshawa, Ontario, and shipped to the US duty-free under NAFTA.
>>>
>>>If NAFTA goes down, Canada will be the big loser, especially in its auto industry, where 120,000 Canadian jobs are at stake. But we also would be losers. The auto industry has suppliers on both sides of the border and just-in-time production methods would put thousands of Americans immediately out of work if Detroit’s Ambassador Bridge were shut down for a few days. As it is, more US trade crosses over that bridge than our entire trade with Japan.
>>>
>>>Trump worries about trade deficits, but we’re running a trade surplus in goods and service with Canada, and it’s one of the very few countries of which that can be said. It’s the most important trading partner for 35 states, and as many as 9 million US jobs depend on trade with Canada.
>>>
>>>It’s not as if there will be much daylight between the two countries, when trade negotiations begin on Wednesday. We’re not happy with Canada’s supply-management system, which subsidizes eggs and milk products — and that’s something the Canadians should be happy to give up, since it costs the average Canadian family $150 a year.
>>>
>>>The Canadians also want a dispute-resolution mechanism, which could prove an advantage to the US as well as Canada. Everybody cheats, and it wouldn’t hurt to have neutral parties work things out.
>>>
>>>So both sides should be able to compromise and get to yes. Given the two leaders’ personalities, it’s easy to see how the Canada-US deal could fall apart. Let’s hope it doesn’t..."
>>>
>>>F.H. Buckley is the author of the new book “The Republican Workers Party: How the Trump Victory Drove Everyone Crazy, and Why It Was Just What We Needed.”
>>
>>I wonder why the US didn't take sides in the conflict between Canada
>>and barbaric state Saudi Arabia. Could it have been because of money,
>>money, money? Are the US's morals for sale? To ask the question is to
>>answer it.
>
>It's more of the Trumpism at work, not news, not correct.

The New York Post isn't dumb media, is it? Not like Fox News.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 09:10:39 +1000, Druce >
wrote:

>On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 19:59:44 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 07:55:43 +1000, Druce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:48:40 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>https://nypost.com/2018/09/04/justin...e-he-deserves/
>>>>
>>>>Justin Trudeau finally gets the trade trouble he deserves
>>>>
>>>>By F.H. Buckley September 4, 2018
>>>>
>>>>"If you’re trying to make sense out of the NAFTA negotiations, where Canada is suddenly rushing to avoid being shut out of a US-Mexico deal, consider this: With his insufferable moral arrogance, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been cruising for a bruising — and now he’s gotten it.
>>>>
>>>>Given Trudeau’s attempt to reinvent the country as the smarmy Eddie Haskell of nations, it’s been fun to watch — but let’s make sure it doesn’t end up costing both Canada and the United States.
>>>>
>>>>Trudeau’s first rude awakening, by the way, didn’t come at the hands of Team Trump. Justin had become a laughingstock when visiting India last February, where he dressed the family Bollywood-style. Even the Indians thought he was a joke.
>>>>
>>>>More serious was his next reality check, via the Saudis. The Canadian foreign ministry had tweeted that Saudi Arabia should release women’s-rights activists, and the Saudis responded by closing their embassy, ordering Saudi students to return home and freezing all trade ties. Diplomatically, that’s going rogue.
>>>>
>>>>Remarkably, the US refused to take sides. Our State Department simply asked both parties to work it out.
>>>>
>>>>Then came Trump’s rebuff of Trudeau over the NAFTA talks. The Canadians had assumed they were in the driver’s seat, and presented a set of initial demands that were guaranteed to infuriate Trump. They wanted gender equality and native rights to be on the table, and suggested that right-to-work laws were an unfair trade practice.
>>>>
>>>>They took their time bargaining, and let the Mexicans know that they’d look after them. They knew Trump had problems with Mexico and told Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto they’d stick up for him.
>>>>
>>>>Except that Justin had gone out of his way to annoy Trump. When the G-7 assembled in Quebec last June, Trudeau prepared the wokiest of politically correct topics to discuss, and showed he was peeved when Trump turned up late at a session.
>>>>
>>>>It all came undone over the last two weeks. First, the Mexicans, to whom the Canadians had condescended, showed that they didn’t need Trudeau’s help and cut a deal with Trump that excluded Canada. Of course we want Canada to be included in NAFTA, they said. But you have to understand that, for us, Mexico comes first and we need a trade deal with the US.
>>>>
>>>>So much for the three amigos.
>>>>
>>>>After the deal with Mexico was announced, Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland cut short a European visit to come to Washington and negotiate with the US trade representative. While the talks were ongoing, the Toronto Star revealed that Trump had said off the record that the United States wasn’t going to bend on any item. If they had problems with that, he said he had an easy answer. He’d show them a picture of the Chevy Impala, which is made in Oshawa, Ontario, and shipped to the US duty-free under NAFTA.
>>>>
>>>>If NAFTA goes down, Canada will be the big loser, especially in its auto industry, where 120,000 Canadian jobs are at stake. But we also would be losers. The auto industry has suppliers on both sides of the border and just-in-time production methods would put thousands of Americans immediately out of work if Detroit’s Ambassador Bridge were shut down for a few days. As it is, more US trade crosses over that bridge than our entire trade with Japan.
>>>>
>>>>Trump worries about trade deficits, but we’re running a trade surplus in goods and service with Canada, and it’s one of the very few countries of which that can be said. It’s the most important trading partner for 35 states, and as many as 9 million US jobs depend on trade with Canada.
>>>>
>>>>It’s not as if there will be much daylight between the two countries, when trade negotiations begin on Wednesday. We’re not happy with Canada’s supply-management system, which subsidizes eggs and milk products — and that’s something the Canadians should be happy to give up, since it costs the average Canadian family $150 a year.
>>>>
>>>>The Canadians also want a dispute-resolution mechanism, which could prove an advantage to the US as well as Canada. Everybody cheats, and it wouldn’t hurt to have neutral parties work things out.
>>>>
>>>>So both sides should be able to compromise and get to yes. Given the two leaders’ personalities, it’s easy to see how the Canada-US deal could fall apart. Let’s hope it doesn’t..."
>>>>
>>>>F.H. Buckley is the author of the new book “The Republican Workers Party: How the Trump Victory Drove Everyone Crazy, and Why It Was Just What We Needed.”
>>>
>>>I wonder why the US didn't take sides in the conflict between Canada
>>>and barbaric state Saudi Arabia. Could it have been because of money,
>>>money, money? Are the US's morals for sale? To ask the question is to
>>>answer it.
>>
>>It's more of the Trumpism at work, not news, not correct.
>
>The New York Post isn't dumb media, is it? Not like Fox News.

Not sure, it's not one I read daily such as London Daily Telegraph, so
I don't recognise the format etc. I don't take anything at face
value anymore.

On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 20:48:40 -0300, wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 09:10:39 +1000, Druce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 19:59:44 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 07:55:43 +1000, Druce >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:48:40 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>https://nypost.com/2018/09/04/justin...e-he-deserves/
>>>>>
>>>>>Justin Trudeau finally gets the trade trouble he deserves
>>>>>
>>>>>By F.H. Buckley September 4, 2018
>>>>>
>>>>>"If you’re trying to make sense out of the NAFTA negotiations, where Canada is suddenly rushing to avoid being shut out of a US-Mexico deal, consider this: With his insufferable moral arrogance, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been cruising for a bruising — and now he’s gotten it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Given Trudeau’s attempt to reinvent the country as the smarmy Eddie Haskell of nations, it’s been fun to watch — but let’s make sure it doesn’t end up costing both Canada and the United States.
>>>>>
>>>>>Trudeau’s first rude awakening, by the way, didn’t come at the hands of Team Trump. Justin had become a laughingstock when visiting India last February, where he dressed the family Bollywood-style. Even the Indians thought he was a joke.
>>>>>
>>>>>More serious was his next reality check, via the Saudis. The Canadian foreign ministry had tweeted that Saudi Arabia should release women’s-rights activists, and the Saudis responded by closing their embassy, ordering Saudi students to return home and freezing all trade ties. Diplomatically, that’s going rogue.
>>>>>
>>>>>Remarkably, the US refused to take sides. Our State Department simply asked both parties to work it out.
>>>>>
>>>>>Then came Trump’s rebuff of Trudeau over the NAFTA talks. The Canadians had assumed they were in the driver’s seat, and presented a set of initial demands that were guaranteed to infuriate Trump. They wanted gender equality and native rights to be on the table, and suggested that right-to-work laws were an unfair trade practice.
>>>>>
>>>>>They took their time bargaining, and let the Mexicans know that they’d look after them. They knew Trump had problems with Mexico and told Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto they’d stick up for him.
>>>>>
>>>>>Except that Justin had gone out of his way to annoy Trump. When the G-7 assembled in Quebec last June, Trudeau prepared the wokiest of politically correct topics to discuss, and showed he was peeved when Trump turned up late at a session.
>>>>>
>>>>>It all came undone over the last two weeks. First, the Mexicans, to whom the Canadians had condescended, showed that they didn’t need Trudeau’s help and cut a deal with Trump that excluded Canada. Of course we want Canada to be included in NAFTA, they said. But you have to understand that, for us, Mexico comes first and we need a trade deal with the US.
>>>>>
>>>>>So much for the three amigos.
>>>>>
>>>>>After the deal with Mexico was announced, Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland cut short a European visit to come to Washington and negotiate with the US trade representative. While the talks were ongoing, the Toronto Star revealed that Trump had said off the record that the United States wasn’t going to bend on any item. If they had problems with that, he said he had an easy answer. He’d show them a picture of the Chevy Impala, which is made in Oshawa, Ontario, and shipped to the US duty-free under NAFTA.
>>>>>
>>>>>If NAFTA goes down, Canada will be the big loser, especially in its auto industry, where 120,000 Canadian jobs are at stake. But we also would be losers. The auto industry has suppliers on both sides of the border and just-in-time production methods would put thousands of Americans immediately out of work if Detroit’s Ambassador Bridge were shut down for a few days. As it is, more US trade crosses over that bridge than our entire trade with Japan.
>>>>>
>>>>>Trump worries about trade deficits, but we’re running a trade surplus in goods and service with Canada, and it’s one of the very few countries of which that can be said. It’s the most important trading partner for 35 states, and as many as 9 million US jobs depend on trade with Canada.
>>>>>
>>>>>It’s not as if there will be much daylight between the two countries, when trade negotiations begin on Wednesday. We’re not happy with Canada’s supply-management system, which subsidizes eggs and milk products — and that’s something the Canadians should be happy to give up, since it costs the average Canadian family $150 a year.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Canadians also want a dispute-resolution mechanism, which could prove an advantage to the US as well as Canada. Everybody cheats, and it wouldn’t hurt to have neutral parties work things out.
>>>>>
>>>>>So both sides should be able to compromise and get to yes. Given the two leaders’ personalities, it’s easy to see how the Canada-US deal could fall apart. Let’s hope it doesn’t..."
>>>>>
>>>>>F.H. Buckley is the author of the new book “The Republican Workers Party: How the Trump Victory Drove Everyone Crazy, and Why It Was Just What We Needed.”
>>>>
>>>>I wonder why the US didn't take sides in the conflict between Canada
>>>>and barbaric state Saudi Arabia. Could it have been because of money,
>>>>money, money? Are the US's morals for sale? To ask the question is to
>>>>answer it.
>>>
>>>It's more of the Trumpism at work, not news, not correct.
>>
>>The New York Post isn't dumb media, is it? Not like Fox News.
>
>Not sure, it's not one I read daily such as London Daily Telegraph, so
>I don't recognise the format etc. I don't take anything at face
>value anymore.

Well, it's clearly just an opinion.

Did you hear the current story about a high placed White House person
speaking of Resistance against Trump and that he's amoral,
ill-informed and reckless? And has the intellectual capacities of a
5th grader? That's nasty towards 5th graders, but anyway.

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 6:10:43 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>
> The New York Post isn't dumb media, is it? Not like Fox News.
>
>
The New York Post is owned by Robert Murdoch. It has been accused of reporting
news to suit Murdoch's business dealings. It has been voted in the past as the
least credible major news outlet in New York.

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:06:11 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 6:10:43 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>
>> The New York Post isn't dumb media, is it? Not like Fox News.
>>
>>
>The New York Post is owned by Robert Murdoch. It has been accused of reporting
>news to suit Murdoch's business dealings. It has been voted in the past as the
>least credible major news outlet in New York.

Oh, that doesn't sound good. Murdoch's bad news.

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 8:13:05 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:06:11 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >The New York Post is owned by Robert Murdoch. It has been accused of reporting
> >news to suit Murdoch's business dealings. It has been voted in the past as the
> >least credible major news outlet in New York.
>
> Oh, that doesn't sound good. Murdoch's bad news.
>
Since he has business dealings in China he will allow no editorials or
bad press in his paper directed at them.

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:51:26 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 8:13:05 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:06:11 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >The New York Post is owned by Robert Murdoch. It has been accused of reporting
>> >news to suit Murdoch's business dealings. It has been voted in the past as the
>> >least credible major news outlet in New York.
>>
>> Oh, that doesn't sound good. Murdoch's bad news.
>>
>Since he has business dealings in China he will allow no editorials or
>bad press in his paper directed at them.

That's very corrupt. He's Australian, originally, I believe.

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 9:33:10 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:51:26 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
> >>
> >Since he has business dealings in China he will allow no editorials or
> >bad press in his paper directed at them.
>
> That's very corrupt. He's Australian, originally, I believe.
>
His paper, he can choose what is printed or not. People are free to buy
and read his paper and make their own conclusions. Papers and TV stations
are free to report on what they want to and twist it to suit their own
agenda. He's not doing anything any other newspaper is not doing. Some
are just not so blatant about it.

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:41:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 9:33:10 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:51:26 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >Since he has business dealings in China he will allow no editorials or
>> >bad press in his paper directed at them.
>>
>> That's very corrupt. He's Australian, originally, I believe.
>>
>His paper, he can choose what is printed or not. People are free to buy
>and read his paper and make their own conclusions. Papers and TV stations
>are free to report on what they want to and twist it to suit their own
>agenda. He's not doing anything any other newspaper is not doing. Some
>are just not so blatant about it.

You'd love to live in Russia, I can tell.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:23:24 +1000, Druce >
wrote:


>>>>>>F.H. Buckley is the author of the new book “The Republican Workers Party: How the Trump Victory Drove Everyone Crazy, and Why It Was Just What We Needed.”
>>>>>
>>>>>I wonder why the US didn't take sides in the conflict between Canada
>>>>>and barbaric state Saudi Arabia. Could it have been because of money,
>>>>>money, money? Are the US's morals for sale? To ask the question is to
>>>>>answer it.
>>>>
>>>>It's more of the Trumpism at work, not news, not correct.
>>>
>>>The New York Post isn't dumb media, is it? Not like Fox News.
>>
>>Not sure, it's not one I read daily such as London Daily Telegraph, so
>>I don't recognise the format etc. I don't take anything at face
>>value anymore.
>
>Well, it's clearly just an opinion.
>
>Did you hear the current story about a high placed White House person
>speaking of Resistance against Trump and that he's amoral,
>ill-informed and reckless? And has the intellectual capacities of a
>5th grader? That's nasty towards 5th graders, but anyway.

That was an op-ed in the NY Times though, I put more faith in their
print

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:06:11 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 6:10:43 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>
>> The New York Post isn't dumb media, is it? Not like Fox News.
>>
>>
>The New York Post is owned by Robert Murdoch. It has been accused of reporting
>news to suit Murdoch's business dealings. It has been voted in the past as the
>least credible major news outlet in New York.

Thanks for clearing that up - I wondered where it fitted in, and yes,
definitely anything Murdoch is not great!

On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 12:33:06 +1000, Druce >
wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:51:26 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 8:13:05 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:06:11 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >The New York Post is owned by Robert Murdoch. It has been accused of reporting
>>> >news to suit Murdoch's business dealings. It has been voted in the past as the
>>> >least credible major news outlet in New York.
>>>
>>> Oh, that doesn't sound good. Murdoch's bad news.
>>>
>>Since he has business dealings in China he will allow no editorials or
>>bad press in his paper directed at them.
>
>That's very corrupt. He's Australian, originally, I believe.

You're correct. Then he moved to London but he's very much out of
favour there now, concentrating on the USA looks like, has a son in
the same business too.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 07:40:22 -0300, wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:23:24 +1000, Druce >
>wrote:
>
>
>>>>>>>F.H. Buckley is the author of the new book “The Republican Workers Party: How the Trump Victory Drove Everyone Crazy, and Why It Was Just What We Needed.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I wonder why the US didn't take sides in the conflict between Canada
>>>>>>and barbaric state Saudi Arabia. Could it have been because of money,
>>>>>>money, money? Are the US's morals for sale? To ask the question is to
>>>>>>answer it.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's more of the Trumpism at work, not news, not correct.
>>>>
>>>>The New York Post isn't dumb media, is it? Not like Fox News.
>>>
>>>Not sure, it's not one I read daily such as London Daily Telegraph, so
>>>I don't recognise the format etc. I don't take anything at face
>>>value anymore.
>>
>>Well, it's clearly just an opinion.
>>
>>Did you hear the current story about a high placed White House person
>>speaking of Resistance against Trump and that he's amoral,
>>ill-informed and reckless? And has the intellectual capacities of a
>>5th grader? That's nasty towards 5th graders, but anyway.
>
>That was an op-ed in the NY Times though, I put more faith in their
>print

I don't know what an op-ed is -editor opinion?-, but it's made
cnn.com, Dutch news and probably worldwide.

wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:23:24 +1000, Druce >
> wrote:
>
>
> >>>>>>F.H. Buckley is the author of the new book €œThe Republican Workers Party: How the Trump Victory Drove Everyone Crazy, and Why It Was Just What We Needed.€�
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I wonder why the US didn't take sides in the conflict between Canada
> >>>>>and barbaric state Saudi Arabia. Could it have been because of money,
> >>>>>money, money? Are the US's morals for sale? To ask the question is to
> >>>>>answer it.
> >>>>
> >>>>It's more of the Trumpism at work, not news, not correct.
> >>>
> >>>The New York Post isn't dumb media, is it? Not like Fox News.
> >>
> >>Not sure, it's not one I read daily such as London Daily Telegraph, so
> >>I don't recognise the format etc. I don't take anything at face
> >>value anymore.
> >
> >Well, it's clearly just an opinion.
> >
> >Did you hear the current story about a high placed White House person
> >speaking of Resistance against Trump and that he's amoral,
> >ill-informed and reckless? And has the intellectual capacities of a
> >5th grader? That's nasty towards 5th graders, but anyway.
>
> That was an op-ed in the NY Times though, I put more faith in their
> print


The NYT has an extreme left - wing bias, so no longer a reliable news source - they cater to the US East/West Coast liberal "chattering class" elite....

--
Best
Greg

On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 04:34:18 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote:

wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:23:24 +1000, Druce >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Well, it's clearly just an opinion.
>> >
>> >Did you hear the current story about a high placed White House person
>> >speaking of Resistance against Trump and that he's amoral,
>> >ill-informed and reckless? And has the intellectual capacities of a
>> >5th grader? That's nasty towards 5th graders, but anyway.
>>
>> That was an op-ed in the NY Times though, I put more faith in their
>> print
>
>The NYT has an extreme left - wing bias, so no longer a reliable news source - they cater to the US East/West Coast liberal "chattering class" elite...

Ah, the open-minded part of your society

On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 20:51:48 +1000, Druce >
wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 07:40:22 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:23:24 +1000, Druce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>F.H. Buckley is the author of the new book “The Republican Workers Party: How the Trump Victory Drove Everyone Crazy, and Why It Was Just What We Needed.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I wonder why the US didn't take sides in the conflict between Canada
>>>>>>>and barbaric state Saudi Arabia. Could it have been because of money,
>>>>>>>money, money? Are the US's morals for sale? To ask the question is to
>>>>>>>answer it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's more of the Trumpism at work, not news, not correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>The New York Post isn't dumb media, is it? Not like Fox News.
>>>>
>>>>Not sure, it's not one I read daily such as London Daily Telegraph, so
>>>>I don't recognise the format etc. I don't take anything at face
>>>>value anymore.
>>>
>>>Well, it's clearly just an opinion.
>>>
>>>Did you hear the current story about a high placed White House person
>>>speaking of Resistance against Trump and that he's amoral,
>>>ill-informed and reckless? And has the intellectual capacities of a
>>>5th grader? That's nasty towards 5th graders, but anyway.
>>
>>That was an op-ed in the NY Times though, I put more faith in their
>>print
>
>I don't know what an op-ed is -editor opinion?-, but it's made
>cnn.com, Dutch news and probably worldwide.

Guardian also.

On 2018-09-06 5:34 AM, GM wrote:

>
>
> The NYT has an extreme left - wing bias, so no longer a reliable news source - they cater to the US East/West Coast liberal "chattering class" elite...
>
If you think the NYT is extreme ledt wing, you must be a real knuckle
dragger!
To the rest of the world, the NYT is seen as a newspaper of record!

On 2018-09-05 5:48 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 09:10:39 +1000, Druce >

>>> It's more of the Trumpism at work, not news, not correct.
>>
>> The New York Post isn't dumb media, is it? Not like Fox News.
>
> Not sure, it's not one I read daily such as London Daily Telegraph, so
> I don't recognise the format etc. I don't take anything at face
> value anymore.
>
The post is just a print version of Faux News. Both owned by Murdoch.

On 9/6/2018 6:51 AM, Druce wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 07:40:22 -0300, wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:23:24 +1000, Druce >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>>>> F.H. Buckley is the author of the new book €œThe Republican Workers Party: How the Trump Victory Drove Everyone Crazy, and Why It Was Just What We Needed.€�
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder why the US didn't take sides in the conflict between Canada
>>>>>>> and barbaric state Saudi Arabia. Could it have been because of money,
>>>>>>> money, money? Are the US's morals for sale? To ask the question is to
>>>>>>> answer it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's more of the Trumpism at work, not news, not correct.
>>>>>
>>>>> The New York Post isn't dumb media, is it? Not like Fox News.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure, it's not one I read daily such as London Daily Telegraph, so
>>>> I don't recognise the format etc. I don't take anything at face
>>>> value anymore.
>>>
>>> Well, it's clearly just an opinion.
>>>
>>> Did you hear the current story about a high placed White House person
>>> speaking of Resistance against Trump and that he's amoral,
>>> ill-informed and reckless? And has the intellectual capacities of a
>>> 5th grader? That's nasty towards 5th graders, but anyway.
>>
>> That was an op-ed in the NY Times though, I put more faith in their
>> print
>
> I don't know what an op-ed is -editor opinion?-, but it's made
> cnn.com, Dutch news and probably worldwide.
>
Opinion-Editorial. They are written by outsiders, not the newspaper
staff. They may take the opposing view of the paper also.

It is like a Letter to the Editor but longer, often more detailed. I've
authored a couple in the past and even got paid a token amount for it.

On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 11:28:40 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/6/2018 6:51 AM, Druce wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 07:40:22 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:23:24 +1000, Druce >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>> F.H. Buckley is the author of the new book “The Republican Workers Party: How the Trump Victory Drove Everyone Crazy, and Why It Was Just What We Needed.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder why the US didn't take sides in the conflict between Canada
>>>>>>>> and barbaric state Saudi Arabia. Could it have been because of money,
>>>>>>>> money, money? Are the US's morals for sale? To ask the question is to
>>>>>>>> answer it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's more of the Trumpism at work, not news, not correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The New York Post isn't dumb media, is it? Not like Fox News.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure, it's not one I read daily such as London Daily Telegraph, so
>>>>> I don't recognise the format etc. I don't take anything at face
>>>>> value anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Well, it's clearly just an opinion.
>>>>
>>>> Did you hear the current story about a high placed White House person
>>>> speaking of Resistance against Trump and that he's amoral,
>>>> ill-informed and reckless? And has the intellectual capacities of a
>>>> 5th grader? That's nasty towards 5th graders, but anyway.
>>>
>>> That was an op-ed in the NY Times though, I put more faith in their
>>> print
>>
>> I don't know what an op-ed is -editor opinion?-, but it's made
>> cnn.com, Dutch news and probably worldwide.
>>
>Opinion-Editorial. They are written by outsiders, not the newspaper
>staff. They may take the opposing view of the paper also.
>
>It is like a Letter to the Editor but longer, often more detailed. I've
>authored a couple in the past and even got paid a token amount for it.

Thanks.

On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 08:35:29 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-09-06 5:34 AM, GM wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The NYT has an extreme left - wing bias, so no longer a reliable news source - they cater to the US East/West Coast liberal "chattering class" elite...
>>
>If you think the NYT is extreme ledt wing, you must be a real knuckle
>dragger!
>To the rest of the world, the NYT is seen as a newspaper of record!

GM is very right wing, so he'd think a good newspaper is extreme left
wing.

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 11:51:39 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:41:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >His paper, he can choose what is printed or not. People are free to buy
> >and read his paper and make their own conclusions. Papers and TV stations
> >are free to report on what they want to and twist it to suit their own
> >agenda. He's not doing anything any other newspaper is not doing. Some
> >are just not so blatant about it.
>
> You'd love to live in Russia, I can tell.
>
>
I don't see how my statement means I'd love to live in Russia. I just
pointed out to you it's his paper and he can print what he pleases as
long as he can get someone to buy it.

On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 11:24:04 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 11:51:39 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:41:02 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >His paper, he can choose what is printed or not. People are free to buy
>> >and read his paper and make their own conclusions. Papers and TV stations
>> >are free to report on what they want to and twist it to suit their own
>> >agenda. He's not doing anything any other newspaper is not doing. Some
>> >are just not so blatant about it.
>>
>> You'd love to live in Russia, I can tell.
>>
>>
>I don't see how my statement means I'd love to live in Russia. I just
>pointed out to you it's his paper and he can print what he pleases as
>long as he can get someone to buy it.

I thought papers in western countries should be about journalism and
journalism came with certain standards, such as writing facts and not
just stories that suit your bank account or other interests.

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 1:28:45 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 11:24:04 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >I don't see how my statement means I'd love to live in Russia. I just
> >pointed out to you it's his paper and he can print what he pleases as
> >long as he can get someone to buy it.
>
> I thought papers in western countries should be about journalism and
> journalism came with certain standards, such as writing facts and not
> just stories that suit your bank account or other interests.
>
>
It happens the world over in all 'free' countries. In those countries
that are controlled by dictators journalism standards are not expected.

On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 11:53:06 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 1:28:45 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 11:24:04 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >I don't see how my statement means I'd love to live in Russia. I just
>> >pointed out to you it's his paper and he can print what he pleases as
>> >long as he can get someone to buy it.
>>
>> I thought papers in western countries should be about journalism and
>> journalism came with certain standards, such as writing facts and not
>> just stories that suit your bank account or other interests.
>>
>>
>It happens the world over in all 'free' countries. In those countries
>that are controlled by dictators journalism standards are not expected.

It happens but it shouldn't.

graham wrote:

> On 2018-09-06 5:34 AM, GM wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > The NYT has an extreme left - wing bias, so no longer a reliable news source - they cater to the US East/West Coast liberal "chattering class" elite...
> >
> If you think the NYT is extreme ledt wing, you must be a real knuckle
> dragger!


Tut tut there, graham, that is a very un - Christian like thing for you to say...nevertheless be assured that I *will* pray for your soul...in your case a novena may be necessary...!!!


> To the rest of the world, the NYT is seen as a newspaper of record!


No longer true...

This is my fave news site (actually more of a news "aggregator"):

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Also:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/

--
Best
Greg

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 6:10:44 PM UTC-4, GM wrote:
> graham wrote:
>
> > On 2018-09-06 5:34 AM, GM wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > The NYT has an extreme left - wing bias, so no longer a reliable news source - they cater to the US East/West Coast liberal "chattering class" elite...
> > >
> > If you think the NYT is extreme ledt wing, you must be a real knuckle
> > dragger!
>
>
> Tut tut there, graham, that is a very un - Christian like thing for you to say...nevertheless be assured that I *will* pray for your soul...in your case a novena may be necessary...!!!
>
>
> > To the rest of the world, the NYT is seen as a newspaper of record!
>
>
> No longer true...
>
> This is my fave news site (actually more of a news "aggregator"):
>
> https://www.realclearpolitics.com/

I should try them more often. I use Google news because it has stuff
besides politics.

>
> Also:
>
> https://fivethirtyeight.com/

I'm impressed by their statistical methods.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 02:48:32 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 6:10:44 PM UTC-4, GM wrote:
>> graham wrote:
>>
>> > On 2018-09-06 5:34 AM, GM wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > The NYT has an extreme left - wing bias, so no longer a reliable news source - they cater to the US East/West Coast liberal "chattering class" elite...
>> > >
>> > If you think the NYT is extreme ledt wing, you must be a real knuckle
>> > dragger!
>>
>>
>> Tut tut there, graham, that is a very un - Christian like thing for you to say...nevertheless be assured that I *will* pray for your soul...in your case a novena may be necessary...!!!
>>
>>
>> > To the rest of the world, the NYT is seen as a newspaper of record!
>>
>>
>> No longer true...
>>
>> This is my fave news site (actually more of a news "aggregator"):
>>
>> https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
>
>I should try them more often. I use Google news because it has stuff
>besides politics.
>
>>
>> Also:
>>
>> https://fivethirtyeight.com/
>
>I'm impressed by their statistical methods.
>
>Cindy Hamilton


538 offers pretty good tech analysis of political polls. One of their
offerings is a rating of most of the political pollsters. These
ratings are decently searchable, too.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/