lid writes:
>In article >,
>says...
>>
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 4:18:57 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > For the past couple of years, every kitchen on TV has one of those high
>> > loop kitchen faucets with a pull down sprayer. I was curious how
>> > practical they really are.
>> >
>> > Couple of weeks ago our 20 year old Moen started to act up. For a few
>> > bucks I can get a cartridge to fix it, but instead, decided to replace
>> > it. We chose a modest priced American Standard but you can pay from
>> > about $120 to $500 for one.
>> >
>> > Now that I've used it for two weeks, it is a very handy design and makes
>> > rinsing big pots or sink cleanup easy. No way would I go back to the
>> > old style single lever design we had all our lives. If you have to
>> > repair or replace, this is the way to go.
>>
>> We have one of those. I'll have to agree with you about not going back to a
>> conventional design. My in-laws had a faucet with a auxiliary sprayer on the
>> side. It would have water standing in it for long periods of time, until you
>> used the sprayer. The new single hose design makes more sense. I like to
>> pull out the hose and use it to add water to pans while they're on the
>> stove.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Post a pic please? I haven't seen those.
>>
>>
>https://tinyurl.com/yaclw9d2

that was a real dick move Cheri

writes:
>On Mon 14 May 2018 05:55:00p, Ed Pawlowski told us...

>>>> Kitchen faucets. You can't miss them, they have a big loop on
>>>> the spout.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/MOEN-Kad...e-Pull-Down-Sp
>>>> ra
>>>> yer-Kitchen-Faucet-with-Reflex-and-Power-Clean-in-Chrome-87966/30
>>>> 03
>>>> 88139?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CD29B%7C26-3_FAUCETS%7CNA%7CPLA
>>>> %7
>>>> CTop_Sellers%7c71700000032893889%7c587000038595067 67%7c9270003099
>>>> 71
>>>> 56018&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5-TXBRCHARIsANLixNx0pVXe9BzX_n3iqAxQ9uOreJMyF
>>>> MY
>>>> uGQCeTUsmoPQonhOzyog_wWkaAlDfEALw_wcB&dclid=CP-G4JjthdsCFQqRswodg
>>>> KQ M5g
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> Thank you. I think I was expecting to see something with a long
>>>> flexible tube attached.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is what I expected to see and what I wanted to install.
>>>
>>> https://is.gd/aGgLa9
>>>
>>
>> I've not seen that style in person. Looks like the entire thing
>> can flex rather than a hose chafing inside.
>
>You're right about the way it functions. These have been around for
>decades but used primarily in restaurant and commercial kitchens.
>When the professioinal or commercial look began becoming popular in
>homes, these faucets started appearing in homes. The same was true
>of pot fillers over the ranges.

No, the home version Ed (poorly) described is not at all like the
pre-rinse faucet you're vaguely referring to. For one thing a pre-rinse
faucet hose is not retractable, for another there's a lever where you
hold it, just like a garden hose nozzle, that turns the water on and
off. There's a separate spout for non-spraying water. The pre-rinse
faucet produces much higher pressure than the home version. Here's a
very clear image of something that looks like what I've used:

<http://podstainless.co.uk/media/uploads/projects/IMG_0087.JPG.600x455_q85_crop.jpg>

"tert in seattle" wrote in message news

No, the home version Ed (poorly) described is not at all like the
pre-rinse faucet you're vaguely referring to. For one thing a pre-rinse
faucet hose is not retractable, for another there's a lever where you
hold it, just like a garden hose nozzle, that turns the water on and
off. There's a separate spout for non-spraying water. The pre-rinse
faucet produces much higher pressure than the home version. Here's a
very clear image of something that looks like what I've used:

<http://podstainless.co.uk/media/uploads/projects/IMG_0087.JPG.600x455_q85_crop.jpg>

==

Thanks for that. I have looked around since this thread started and I have
seen a lot of different ones which do a similar job. I don't have one and I
hadn't really been interested in looking at them. Maybe next time

On Fri, 18 May 2018 05:05:23 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:

writes:
>>On Mon 14 May 2018 05:55:00p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>
>>>>> Kitchen faucets. You can't miss them, they have a big loop on
>>>>> the spout.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/MOEN-Kad...e-Pull-Down-Sp
>>>>> ra
>>>>> yer-Kitchen-Faucet-with-Reflex-and-Power-Clean-in-Chrome-87966/30
>>>>> 03
>>>>> 88139?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CD29B%7C26-3_FAUCETS%7CNA%7CPLA
>>>>> %7
>>>>> CTop_Sellers%7c71700000032893889%7c587000038595067 67%7c9270003099
>>>>> 71
>>>>> 56018&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5-TXBRCHARIsANLixNx0pVXe9BzX_n3iqAxQ9uOreJMyF
>>>>> MY
>>>>> uGQCeTUsmoPQonhOzyog_wWkaAlDfEALw_wcB&dclid=CP-G4JjthdsCFQqRswodg
>>>>> KQ M5g
>>>>>
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you. I think I was expecting to see something with a long
>>>>> flexible tube attached.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is what I expected to see and what I wanted to install.
>>>>
>>>> https://is.gd/aGgLa9
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've not seen that style in person. Looks like the entire thing
>>> can flex rather than a hose chafing inside.
>>
>>You're right about the way it functions. These have been around for
>>decades but used primarily in restaurant and commercial kitchens.
>>When the professioinal or commercial look began becoming popular in
>>homes, these faucets started appearing in homes. The same was true
>>of pot fillers over the ranges.
>
>No, the home version Ed (poorly) described is not at all like the
>pre-rinse faucet you're vaguely referring to. For one thing a pre-rinse
>faucet hose is not retractable, for another there's a lever where you
>hold it, just like a garden hose nozzle, that turns the water on and
>off. There's a separate spout for non-spraying water. The pre-rinse
>faucet produces much higher pressure than the home version. Here's a
>very clear image of something that looks like what I've used:
>
><http://podstainless.co.uk/media/uploads/projects/IMG_0087.JPG.600x455_q85_crop.jpg>


I doubt too many would want that for a home kitchen... that photo
looks like a set up in a county morgue, or maybe for a Proctologist.

writes:
>On Fri, 18 May 2018 05:05:23 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:
>
writes:
>>>On Mon 14 May 2018 05:55:00p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>>
>>>>>> Kitchen faucets. You can't miss them, they have a big loop on
>>>>>> the spout.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/MOEN-Kad...e-Pull-Down-Sp
>>>>>> ra
>>>>>> yer-Kitchen-Faucet-with-Reflex-and-Power-Clean-in-Chrome-87966/30
>>>>>> 03
>>>>>> 88139?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CD29B%7C26-3_FAUCETS%7CNA%7CPLA
>>>>>> %7
>>>>>> CTop_Sellers%7c71700000032893889%7c587000038595067 67%7c9270003099
>>>>>> 71
>>>>>> 56018&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5-TXBRCHARIsANLixNx0pVXe9BzX_n3iqAxQ9uOreJMyF
>>>>>> MY
>>>>>> uGQCeTUsmoPQonhOzyog_wWkaAlDfEALw_wcB&dclid=CP-G4JjthdsCFQqRswodg
>>>>>> KQ M5g
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you. I think I was expecting to see something with a long
>>>>>> flexible tube attached.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what I expected to see and what I wanted to install.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://is.gd/aGgLa9
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've not seen that style in person. Looks like the entire thing
>>>> can flex rather than a hose chafing inside.
>>>
>>>You're right about the way it functions. These have been around for
>>>decades but used primarily in restaurant and commercial kitchens.
>>>When the professioinal or commercial look began becoming popular in
>>>homes, these faucets started appearing in homes. The same was true
>>>of pot fillers over the ranges.
>>
>>No, the home version Ed (poorly) described is not at all like the
>>pre-rinse faucet you're vaguely referring to. For one thing a pre-rinse
>>faucet hose is not retractable, for another there's a lever where you
>>hold it, just like a garden hose nozzle, that turns the water on and
>>off. There's a separate spout for non-spraying water. The pre-rinse
>>faucet produces much higher pressure than the home version. Here's a
>>very clear image of something that looks like what I've used:
>>
>><http://podstainless.co.uk/media/uploads/projects/IMG_0087.JPG.600x455_q85_crop.jpg>
>
>
>I doubt too many would want that for a home kitchen...


DUH!

I have one of these faucets and really like it. The long pull-out hose makes it easy to rinse the sink or fill heavy pots sitting on the nearby counter. What I don't like is that the handle is on the right-hand side, which makes it awkward for a right handed person. When I approach the sink holding a glass, it's usually in my right hand, I have to reach across the faucet with my left hand to access the handle. If I'm trying to fill a small pot that is in my right hand, again, I either have to switch the pot to my left hand, or awkwardly reach across with my left hand to turn the water on or adjust the temp. The handle should be in the middle, not on one side or the other. Not a huge problem, but annoying none the less.

Denise in NH

On 5/21/2018 12:22 PM, wrote:
> I have one of these faucets and really like it. The long pull-out hose makes it easy to rinse the sink or fill heavy pots sitting on the nearby counter. What I don't like is that the handle is on the right-hand side, which makes it awkward for a right handed person. When I approach the sink holding a glass, it's usually in my right hand, I have to reach across the faucet with my left hand to access the handle. If I'm trying to fill a small pot that is in my right hand, again, I either have to switch the pot to my left hand, or awkwardly reach across with my left hand to turn the water on or adjust the temp. The handle should be in the middle, not on one side or the other. Not a huge problem, but annoying none the less.
>
> Denise in NH
>

Not a problem. Thought it would be since I'm laft handed but it works
out well for me. I did see one a couple of weeks ago that was laft side
handle and yes, it would be awkward for me. You can install if
opposite, only difference being hot toward you instead of way.

On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 8:33:46 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Not a problem. Thought it would be since I'm laft handed but it works
> out well for me. I did see one a couple of weeks ago that was laft side
> handle and yes, it would be awkward for me. You can install if
> opposite, only difference being hot toward you instead of way.

Of course, you're going to have to put the sink on the opposite side of the kitchen. It's a small price to pay to be able to hold a glass and operate the valve lever at the same time.