Like I'm gonna BUY ONE? ;-)

Like when I was 18 ands I went up to CMC Stereo and I KNEW MORE ABOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT than the CMC Salesman did!!

I learned about audio equipment from reading manufacturer's sales brochure material I mailed away for! Same way with the Tesla rerp, who I told I have a degree in Electrical Engineering, and I taught the Tesla sales rep more than he taught ME about all-electric cars!

And the Tesla S is SWEET! Faster off the line than my Nissan Leaf (but with the SAME BACKWARDS-ASS directional controller only on the Tree and not on The Floor like my Leaf!

Still like my Leaf better, and it DIDN'T cost me $100,000+ but only slightly LESS than $10K off a 3 year LEASE!!

NEVER BUY NEW! New Cars DROP substantially in price as soon as you drive it off the dealer lot! Let some OTHER Foole take the depreciation hit!! :-)

Namaste

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe wrote:
> Like I'm gonna BUY ONE? ;-)
>
> Like when I was 18 ands I went up to CMC Stereo and I KNEW MORE ABOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT than the CMC Salesman did!!
>
> I learned about audio equipment from reading manufacturer's sales brochure material I mailed away for! Same way with the Tesla rerp, who I told I have a degree in Electrical Engineering, and I taught the Tesla sales rep more than he taught ME about all-electric cars!
>
> And the Tesla S is SWEET! Faster off the line than my Nissan Leaf (but with the SAME BACKWARDS-ASS directional controller only on the Tree and not on The Floor like my Leaf!
>
> Still like my Leaf better, and it DIDN'T cost me $100,000+ but only slightly LESS than $10K off a 3 year LEASE!!
>
> NEVER BUY NEW! New Cars DROP substantially in price as soon as you drive it off the dealer lot! Let some OTHER Foole take the depreciation hit!! :-)
>
> Namaste
>
> John Kuthe...

I lease all of my vehicles and they are always covered by the
warranty!! I pay zero for repairs and I don't have to guess if the cars
were serviced properly or if they were in an accident or flood!!! In my
state I only pay sales tax on the lease payment and not the entire
vehicle cost!!!!

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 12:50:22 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> Like I'm gonna BUY ONE? ;-)
>
> Like when I was 18 ands I went up to CMC Stereo and I KNEW MORE ABOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT than the CMC Salesman did!!
>
> I learned about audio equipment from reading manufacturer's sales brochure material I mailed away for! Same way with the Tesla rerp, who I told I have a degree in Electrical Engineering, and I taught the Tesla sales rep more than he taught ME about all-electric cars!
>
> And the Tesla S is SWEET! Faster off the line than my Nissan Leaf (but with the SAME BACKWARDS-ASS directional controller only on the Tree and not on The Floor like my Leaf!
>
> Still like my Leaf better, and it DIDN'T cost me $100,000+ but only slightly LESS than $10K off a 3 year LEASE!!
>
> NEVER BUY NEW! New Cars DROP substantially in price as soon as you drive it off the dealer lot! Let some OTHER Foole take the depreciation hit!! :-)
>
> Namaste
>
> John Kuthe...

My son's new girlfriend bought a used Leaf. They were riding in it during a recent rainstorm and were rear-ended by a Honda CRV. My son got out and asked the driver if he was alright and the guy told him to pull over to the side. They did but he didn't. He cut over through 2 lanes and went the opposite direction. That sucked but I suppose that's a lot better than getting incinerated in a white hot electrochemical explosion.

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:16:24 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
>
> I lease all of my vehicles and they are always covered by the
> warranty!! I pay zero for repairs and I don't have to guess if the cars
> were serviced properly or if they were in an accident or flood!!! In my
> state I only pay sales tax on the lease payment and not the entire
> vehicle cost!!!!

Someone should come out with keyboards with extra keys that have 1,2,3, or 4 exclamations. That would be sweet. I'd sure use them. I need to post with a little more enthusiasm. The great thing about these keyboards is that a person that would buy such a product would be likely to buy at least 2 of them at a time(!).

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 6:16:24 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
> > Like I'm gonna BUY ONE? ;-)
> >
> > Like when I was 18 ands I went up to CMC Stereo and I KNEW MORE ABOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT than the CMC Salesman did!!
> >
> > I learned about audio equipment from reading manufacturer's sales brochure material I mailed away for! Same way with the Tesla rerp, who I told I have a degree in Electrical Engineering, and I taught the Tesla sales rep more than he taught ME about all-electric cars!
> >
> > And the Tesla S is SWEET! Faster off the line than my Nissan Leaf (but with the SAME BACKWARDS-ASS directional controller only on the Tree and not on The Floor like my Leaf!
> >
> > Still like my Leaf better, and it DIDN'T cost me $100,000+ but only slightly LESS than $10K off a 3 year LEASE!!
> >
> > NEVER BUY NEW! New Cars DROP substantially in price as soon as you drive it off the dealer lot! Let some OTHER Foole take the depreciation hit!! :-)
> >
> > Namaste
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> I lease all of my vehicles and they are always covered by the
> warranty!! I pay zero for repairs and I don't have to guess if the cars
> were serviced properly or if they were in an accident or flood!!! In my
> state I only pay sales tax on the lease payment and not the entire
> vehicle cost!!!!

Exactly! Which is ahy buying USED fresh off a 3 year lease is most frugal!

And if it was a LEMON, then...

John Kuthe..

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 6:21:44 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 12:50:22 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> > Like I'm gonna BUY ONE? ;-)
> >
> > Like when I was 18 ands I went up to CMC Stereo and I KNEW MORE ABOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT than the CMC Salesman did!!
> >
> > I learned about audio equipment from reading manufacturer's sales brochure material I mailed away for! Same way with the Tesla rerp, who I told I have a degree in Electrical Engineering, and I taught the Tesla sales rep more than he taught ME about all-electric cars!
> >
> > And the Tesla S is SWEET! Faster off the line than my Nissan Leaf (but with the SAME BACKWARDS-ASS directional controller only on the Tree and not on The Floor like my Leaf!
> >
> > Still like my Leaf better, and it DIDN'T cost me $100,000+ but only slightly LESS than $10K off a 3 year LEASE!!
> >
> > NEVER BUY NEW! New Cars DROP substantially in price as soon as you drive it off the dealer lot! Let some OTHER Foole take the depreciation hit!! :-)
> >
> > Namaste
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> My son's new girlfriend bought a used Leaf. They were riding in it during a recent rainstorm and were rear-ended by a Honda CRV. My son got out and asked the driver if he was alright and the guy told him to pull over to the side. They did but he didn't. He cut over through 2 lanes and went the opposite direction. That sucked but I suppose that's a lot better than getting incinerated in a white hot electrochemical explosion.

A WHAT?? Do you KNOW much about electricity, batteries and electric vehicles? I DO! TONS!!!

What you show concern with when you say "but I suppose that's a lot better than getting incinerated in a white hot electrochemical explosion"! What chemicals in a Leaf are likely to explode? Do you KNOW what chemicals are in a Leaf? I DO

John Kuthe...

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:01:43 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> A WHAT?? Do you KNOW much about electricity, batteries and electric vehicles? I DO! TONS!!!
>
> What you show concern with when you say "but I suppose that's a lot better than getting incinerated in a white hot electrochemical explosion"! What chemicals in a Leaf are likely to explode? Do you KNOW what chemicals are in a Leaf? I DO
>
> John Kuthe...

As far as I know, the batteries in electric cars are electrochemical storage devices. My guess is that, in a few years, we'll be using solid state batteries. At least that's the direction researchers are scrambling for. This probably does not bode well for Musk/Tesla and his Gigafactory.

https://futurism.com/massachusetts-s...ttery-company/

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:23:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:01:43 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> > A WHAT?? Do you KNOW much about electricity, batteries and electric vehicles? I DO! TONS!!!
> >
> > What you show concern with when you say "but I suppose that's a lot better than getting incinerated in a white hot electrochemical explosion"! What chemicals in a Leaf are likely to explode? Do you KNOW what chemicals are in a Leaf? I DO
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> As far as I know, the batteries in electric cars are electrochemical storage devices. My guess is that, in a few years, we'll be using solid state batteries. At least that's the direction researchers are scrambling for. This probably does not bode well for Musk/Tesla and his Gigafactory.
>
> https://futurism.com/massachusetts-s...ttery-company/

Lithium batteries ARE SOLID STATE you MORAN!! Every BIT SOLID STATE! Lithium melts at 357F and nothing IN a Leaf burns at that temp!! And if something DID melt the lithium, so what? The FIRE would be more of a problem than the melted lithium!

Moran!

John Kuthe...

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:30:56 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:23:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:01:43 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> > >
> > > A WHAT?? Do you KNOW much about electricity, batteries and electric vehicles? I DO! TONS!!!
> > >
> > > What you show concern with when you say "but I suppose that's a lot better than getting incinerated in a white hot electrochemical explosion"! What chemicals in a Leaf are likely to explode? Do you KNOW what chemicals are in a Leaf? I DO
> > >
> > > John Kuthe...
> >
> > As far as I know, the batteries in electric cars are electrochemical storage devices. My guess is that, in a few years, we'll be using solid state batteries. At least that's the direction researchers are scrambling for. This probably does not bode well for Musk/Tesla and his Gigafactory.
> >
> > https://futurism.com/massachusetts-s...ttery-company/
>
> Lithium batteries ARE SOLID STATE you MORAN!! Every BIT SOLID STATE! Lithium melts at 357F and nothing IN a Leaf burns at that temp!! And if something DID melt the lithium, so what? The FIRE would be more of a problem than the melted lithium!
>
> Moran!
>
> John Kuthe...

You must have been smoking weed when they introduced the subject in class. Feel free to believe that cars run on solid state batteries. It's not my job to educate you in the things you should already know.

Namaste!

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:36:30 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:30:56 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:23:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:01:43 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A WHAT?? Do you KNOW much about electricity, batteries and electric vehicles? I DO! TONS!!!
> > > >
> > > > What you show concern with when you say "but I suppose that's a lot better than getting incinerated in a white hot electrochemical explosion"! What chemicals in a Leaf are likely to explode? Do you KNOW what chemicals are in a Leaf? I DO
> > > >
> > > > John Kuthe...
> > >
> > > As far as I know, the batteries in electric cars are electrochemical storage devices. My guess is that, in a few years, we'll be using solid state batteries. At least that's the direction researchers are scrambling for. This probably does not bode well for Musk/Tesla and his Gigafactory.
> > >
> > > https://futurism.com/massachusetts-s...ttery-company/
> >
> > Lithium batteries ARE SOLID STATE you MORAN!! Every BIT SOLID STATE! Lithium melts at 357F and nothing IN a Leaf burns at that temp!! And if something DID melt the lithium, so what? The FIRE would be more of a problem than the melted lithium!
> >
> > Moran!
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> You must have been smoking weed when they introduced the subject in class.. Feel free to believe that cars run on solid state batteries. It's not my job to educate you in the things you should already know.
>
> Namaste!

Of the three common states of matter (or 4 of you count plasma!) are solid, liquid and gaseous. At STP lithium is solid.

What part of "solid state" do you not understand? Remember you are replying to a Computer Engineer!

John Kuthe...

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:45:49 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> Of the three common states of matter (or 4 of you count plasma!) are solid, liquid and gaseous. At STP lithium is solid.
>
> What part of "solid state" do you not understand? Remember you are replying to a Computer Engineer!
>
> John Kuthe...

I'm surprised that you seem unaware that lithium have to potential to explode in a furious white hot ball of flame. You must be smoking too much of that happy weed. Repent before it's too late!

When people say "solid state" batteries, they mean that it doesn't use a liquid electrolyte to facilitate ionic movement in the cell. You know how there are two kind of capacitors? Solid state capacitors and electrolytic capacitors? Same thing. The only difference is that most lithium batteries use a liquid electrolyte.

"Do you KNOW what chemicals are in a Leaf? I DO"

Here's the part where you get to answer your own question and prove your education didn't go up completely in smoke.

Namaste!

On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:45:45 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:36:30 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:30:56 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
>> >
>> > Lithium batteries ARE SOLID STATE you MORAN!! Every BIT SOLID STATE! Lithium melts at 357F and nothing IN a Leaf burns at that temp!! And if something DID melt the lithium, so what? The FIRE would be more of a problem than the melted lithium!
>> >
>> > Moran!
>> >
>> > John Kuthe...
>>
>> You must have been smoking weed when they introduced the subject in class. Feel free to believe that cars run on solid state batteries. It's not my job to educate you in the things you should already know.
>>
>> Namaste!
>
>Of the three common states of matter (or 4 of you count plasma!) are solid, liquid and gaseous. At STP lithium is solid.
>
>What part of "solid state" do you not understand? Remember you are replying to a Computer Engineer!

Hey, I was a software engineer once. Does that mean I'm a genius too?

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 8:47:09 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:45:45 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:36:30 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:30:56 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Lithium batteries ARE SOLID STATE you MORAN!! Every BIT SOLID STATE! Lithium melts at 357F and nothing IN a Leaf burns at that temp!! And if something DID melt the lithium, so what? The FIRE would be more of a problem than the melted lithium!
> >> >
> >> > Moran!
> >> >
> >> > John Kuthe...
> >>
> >> You must have been smoking weed when they introduced the subject in class. Feel free to believe that cars run on solid state batteries. It's not my job to educate you in the things you should already know.
> >>
> >> Namaste!
> >
> >Of the three common states of matter (or 4 of you count plasma!) are solid, liquid and gaseous. At STP lithium is solid.
> >
> >What part of "solid state" do you not understand? Remember you are replying to a Computer Engineer!
>
> Hey, I was a software engineer once. Does that mean I'm a genius too?

Software is candy, it must rin on hardware to get anything done.

Ever hear of the book Programming Pearls? Required reading for one of my Computer Engineering classes. We had no classes in programming languages but as we went through the Computer Engineering program at WashU 1989 to 1995 we learned to expect in certain classes we'd be programming in certain specific languages. Pascal, C, LISP, ADA, PROLOG, etc. Assembler too! Nothing in BASIC that I remember.

John Kuthe...

On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:47:37 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 8:47:09 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:45:45 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:36:30 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> >> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:30:56 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Lithium batteries ARE SOLID STATE you MORAN!! Every BIT SOLID STATE! Lithium melts at 357F and nothing IN a Leaf burns at that temp!! And if something DID melt the lithium, so what? The FIRE would be more of a problem than the melted lithium!
>> >> >
>> >> > Moran!
>> >> >
>> >> > John Kuthe...
>> >>
>> >> You must have been smoking weed when they introduced the subject in class. Feel free to believe that cars run on solid state batteries. It's not my job to educate you in the things you should already know.
>> >>
>> >> Namaste!
>> >
>> >Of the three common states of matter (or 4 of you count plasma!) are solid, liquid and gaseous. At STP lithium is solid.
>> >
>> >What part of "solid state" do you not understand? Remember you are replying to a Computer Engineer!
>>
>> Hey, I was a software engineer once. Does that mean I'm a genius too?
>
>Software is candy, it must rin on hardware to get anything done.

Just like hardware doesn't do anything without software.

On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:30:52 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:23:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:01:43 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>> A WHAT?? Do you KNOW much about electricity, batteries and electric vehicles? I DO! TONS!!!
>>>
>>> What you show concern with when you say "but I suppose that's a lot better than getting incinerated in a white hot electrochemical explosion"! What chemicals in a Leaf are likely to explode? Do you KNOW what chemicals are in a Leaf? I DO
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>> As far as I know, the batteries in electric cars are electrochemical storage devices. My guess is that, in a few years, we'll be using solid state batteries. At least that's the direction researchers are scrambling for. This probably does not bode well for Musk/Tesla and his Gigafactory.
>>
>> https://futurism.com/massachusetts-s...ttery-company/
>
> Lithium batteries ARE SOLID STATE you MORAN!! Every BIT SOLID STATE!

There's that 1960's college "electrical engineering degree" showing
it's age. Batteries are not considered solid state, only
semiconductors when compared to vacuum tubes. Lithium (and all
batteries for the last 2,300 years) batteries are electromechanical.
They rely on chemical reactions to store energy and convert it to
electricity. Atoms and other shit is moving in those batteries, you
just can't see it.

Even I know that and I don't have a useless electrical engineering
degree.

This is the first time dsi1 actually got something right. but then he
follows it up with this "I guess... " bullshit, as usual.

ObFood: According to nutritional information, there's less than half a
spear of asparagus in a can of Campbell's Cream of Asparagus Soup, yet
it costs twice as much as Cream of Celery Soup. this means they're
paying $28/pound for asparagus. Or that they're just greedy assholes
preying on gullible consumers.

-sw

On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:45:45 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> Remember you are replying to a Computer Engineer!

i thought you were an electrical engineer. Two totally different
educations and professions.

FWIW, most of us don't think you're anything except an unemployed and
mentally unstable nurse.

-sw

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 12:50:22 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> Like I'm gonna BUY ONE? ;-)
>
> Like when I was 18 ands I went up to CMC Stereo and I KNEW MORE ABOUT
> THEIR EQUIPMENT than the CMC Salesman did!!
>
> I learned about audio equipment from reading manufacturer's sales brochure
> material I mailed away for! Same way with the Tesla rerp, who I told I
> have a degree in Electrical Engineering, and I taught the Tesla sales rep
> more than he taught ME about all-electric cars!
>
> And the Tesla S is SWEET! Faster off the line than my Nissan Leaf (but
> with the SAME BACKWARDS-ASS directional controller only on the Tree and
> not on The Floor like my Leaf!
>
> Still like my Leaf better, and it DIDN'T cost me $100,000+ but only
> slightly LESS than $10K off a 3 year LEASE!!
>
> NEVER BUY NEW! New Cars DROP substantially in price as soon as you drive
> it off the dealer lot! Let some OTHER Foole take the depreciation hit!!
> :-)
>
> Namaste
>
> John Kuthe...

My son's new girlfriend bought a used Leaf. They were riding in it during a
recent rainstorm and were rear-ended by a Honda CRV. My son got out and
asked the driver if he was alright and the guy told him to pull over to the
side. They did but he didn't. He cut over through 2 lanes and went the
opposite direction. That sucked but I suppose that's a lot better than
getting incinerated in a white hot electrochemical explosion.

==

Did they get the registration number?

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 10:17:35 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Did they get the registration number?

They didn't get a thing. My guess is that it was raining heavily. The state was hit with big rain during the weekend. Kauai was badly hit.

https://www.surfer.com/features/kauai-is-flooded/

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 10:17:35 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Did they get the registration number?

They didn't get a thing. My guess is that it was raining heavily. The state
was hit with big rain during the weekend. Kauai was badly hit.

https://www.surfer.com/features/kauai-is-flooded/

==

Oh, I am sorry

dsi1 wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 10:17:35 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > Did they get the registration number?
>
> They didn't get a thing. My guess is that it was raining heavily. The state was hit with big rain during the weekend. Kauai was badly hit.
>
> https://www.surfer.com/features/kauai-is-flooded/

27 inches of rain in 24 hours. oh man! ;-o

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 6:50:22 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> Like I'm gonna BUY ONE? ;-)
>
> Like when I was 18 ands I went up to CMC Stereo and I KNEW MORE ABOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT than the CMC Salesman did!!
>
> I learned about audio equipment from reading manufacturer's sales brochure material I mailed away for! Same way with the Tesla rerp, who I told I have a degree in Electrical Engineering, and I taught the Tesla sales rep more than he taught ME about all-electric cars!
>
> And the Tesla S is SWEET! Faster off the line than my Nissan Leaf (but with the SAME BACKWARDS-ASS directional controller only on the Tree and not on The Floor like my Leaf!
>
> Still like my Leaf better, and it DIDN'T cost me $100,000+ but only slightly LESS than $10K off a 3 year LEASE!!
>
> NEVER BUY NEW! New Cars DROP substantially in price as soon as you drive it off the dealer lot! Let some OTHER Foole take the depreciation hit!! :-)
>
> Namaste
>
> John Kuthe...

Yawn. It's a car: a tool for moving me and my stuff from point A to point B.
Neither the Tesla nor the Leaf is sufficient to my needs.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 05:49:16 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 10:17:35 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> > Did they get the registration number?
>>
>> They didn't get a thing. My guess is that it was raining heavily. The state was hit with big rain during the weekend. Kauai was badly hit.
>>
>> https://www.surfer.com/features/kauai-is-flooded/
>
>27 inches of rain in 24 hours. oh man! ;-o

That's nothing compared to what we get.

On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 03:13:10 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 6:50:22 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>> Like I'm gonna BUY ONE? ;-)
>>
>> Like when I was 18 ands I went up to CMC Stereo and I KNEW MORE ABOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT than the CMC Salesman did!!
>>
>> I learned about audio equipment from reading manufacturer's sales brochure material I mailed away for! Same way with the Tesla rerp, who I told I have a degree in Electrical Engineering, and I taught the Tesla sales rep more than he taught ME about all-electric cars!
>>
>> And the Tesla S is SWEET! Faster off the line than my Nissan Leaf (but with the SAME BACKWARDS-ASS directional controller only on the Tree and not on The Floor like my Leaf!
>>
>> Still like my Leaf better, and it DIDN'T cost me $100,000+ but only slightly LESS than $10K off a 3 year LEASE!!
>>
>> NEVER BUY NEW! New Cars DROP substantially in price as soon as you drive it off the dealer lot! Let some OTHER Foole take the depreciation hit!! :-)
>>
>> Namaste
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
>Yawn. It's a car: a tool for moving me and my stuff from point A to point B.
>Neither the Tesla nor the Leaf is sufficient to my needs.

If it has more than 2 wheels and a roof and actually starts, I'm good.
I don't need airco, cruise control, bum warmers, hill start assist or
automated lane change warning systems. That's all so Ed Pawlowski.

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 6:21:29 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 03:13:10 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 6:50:22 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> >> Like I'm gonna BUY ONE? ;-)
> >>
> >> Like when I was 18 ands I went up to CMC Stereo and I KNEW MORE ABOUT THEIR EQUIPMENT than the CMC Salesman did!!
> >>
> >> I learned about audio equipment from reading manufacturer's sales brochure material I mailed away for! Same way with the Tesla rerp, who I told I have a degree in Electrical Engineering, and I taught the Tesla sales rep more than he taught ME about all-electric cars!
> >>
> >> And the Tesla S is SWEET! Faster off the line than my Nissan Leaf (but with the SAME BACKWARDS-ASS directional controller only on the Tree and not on The Floor like my Leaf!
> >>
> >> Still like my Leaf better, and it DIDN'T cost me $100,000+ but only slightly LESS than $10K off a 3 year LEASE!!
> >>
> >> NEVER BUY NEW! New Cars DROP substantially in price as soon as you drive it off the dealer lot! Let some OTHER Foole take the depreciation hit!! :-)
> >>
> >> Namaste
> >>
> >> John Kuthe...
> >
> >Yawn. It's a car: a tool for moving me and my stuff from point A to point B.
> >Neither the Tesla nor the Leaf is sufficient to my needs.
>
> If it has more than 2 wheels and a roof and actually starts, I'm good.
> I don't need airco, cruise control, bum warmers, hill start assist or
> automated lane change warning systems. That's all so Ed Pawlowski.

I need something that will get me up out of my driveway when it snows,
pull a utility trailer, provide ready access to groceries (I hate
bending down to lift them out of a car's trunk), and haul a decent
amount of stuff when I don't want to pull the trailer. I've got a
2004 Toyota Highlander. Air-conditioning is a must in this climate.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 5:13:14 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
....
>
> Yawn. It's a car: a tool for moving me and my stuff from point A to point B.
> Neither the Tesla nor the Leaf is sufficient to my needs.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Maybe you better ADJUST YOIUR NEEDS!!

Gasoline/Fossil Fuelkl CARS are GOING AWEAY!!

They MUST!!

****ING 50 million year okld PLANT MATERIAL!!

Should have LEFT IT IN THE GROIUND!!

John Kuthe...

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 8:08:31 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
....
> I need something that will get me up out of my driveway when it snows,
> pull a utility trailer, provide ready access to groceries (I hate
> bending down to lift them out of a car's trunk), and haul a decent
> amount of stuff when I don't want to pull the trailer. I've got a
> 2004 Toyota Highlander. Air-conditioning is a must in this climate.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

You REALLY have to asadjust your NEEDS!

Like HOW MANY ARE WANTS?

John Kuthe...

On 4/18/2018 6:21 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 03:13:10 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:

>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>> Yawn. It's a car: a tool for moving me and my stuff from point A to point B.
>> Neither the Tesla nor the Leaf is sufficient to my needs.
>
> If it has more than 2 wheels and a roof and actually starts, I'm good.
> I don't need airco, cruise control, bum warmers, hill start assist or
> automated lane change warning systems. That's all so Ed Pawlowski.
>

Don't forget the heated steering wheel! Making another 3000 mile trip
next week and will enjoy all those goodies.

On 2018-04-18 9:08 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 6:21:29 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

> I need something that will get me up out of my driveway when it snows,
> pull a utility trailer, provide ready access to groceries (I hate
> bending down to lift them out of a car's trunk), and haul a decent
> amount of stuff when I don't want to pull the trailer. I've got a
> 2004 Toyota Highlander. Air-conditioning is a must in this climate.

I wonder about temperature control in electric vehicles. If it is really
hot you need A/C. I can usually live without that up here, but in the
dead of winter I want some heat in the car, and you need a good
defroster when the windows fog up.

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 9:34:45 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 8:08:31 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> ...
> > I need something that will get me up out of my driveway when it snows,
> > pull a utility trailer, provide ready access to groceries (I hate
> > bending down to lift them out of a car's trunk), and haul a decent
> > amount of stuff when I don't want to pull the trailer. I've got a
> > 2004 Toyota Highlander. Air-conditioning is a must in this climate.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> You REALLY have to asadjust your NEEDS!
>
> Like HOW MANY ARE WANTS?
>
> John Kuthe...

Up the dosage, John. You're way too labile.

Cindy Hamilton

On 4/18/2018 10:22 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 9:34:45 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 8:08:31 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> ...
>>> I need something that will get me up out of my driveway when it snows,
>>> pull a utility trailer, provide ready access to groceries (I hate
>>> bending down to lift them out of a car's trunk), and haul a decent
>>> amount of stuff when I don't want to pull the trailer. I've got a
>>> 2004 Toyota Highlander. Air-conditioning is a must in this climate.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> You REALLY have to asadjust your NEEDS!
>>
>> Like HOW MANY ARE WANTS?
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
> Up the dosage, John. You're way too labile.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Labile is a good word. But Cindy, don't you realize you don't NEED
to be able to get out of the driveway when it snows? At least not in
the world according to Kuthe. LOL

Jill

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Bruce wrote:
> > If it has more than 2 wheels and a roof and actually starts, I'm good.
> > I don't need airco, cruise control, bum warmers, hill start assist or
> > automated lane change warning systems. That's all so Ed Pawlowski.
> >
>
> Don't forget the heated steering wheel! Making another 3000 mile trip
> next week and will enjoy all those goodies.

lol. I was going to mention your heated steering wheel too. None
of that is necessary for me here but you do drive lots of miles
and in sometimes very cold weather too. Each to their own.

John Kuthe wrote:
>
> ****ING 50 million year okld PLANT MATERIAL!!
> Should have LEFT IT IN THE GROUND!!

John, it doesn't do any good left in the ground.
We do need to find alt energy though before it runs out.

Also, within reason...no need to hoard money. Doesn't do any good
if you don't spend it. Good for financial security though.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> ... But Cindy, don't you realize you don't NEED
> to be able to get out of the driveway when it snows? At least not in
> the world according to Kuthe. LOL

Nor in the world according to me either. Here in Virginia, a deep
snow is so rare, we just take a few days off until it melts. No
worries.

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:39:55 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> Someone should come out with keyboards with extra keys that have 1,2,3, or >4 exclamations.

I BOUGHT the DELUXE version!!!!

(Because I'm a GENIUS!!!)

(Really!!)

(SEE?!)

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 12:18:33 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > ... But Cindy, don't you realize you don't NEED
> > to be able to get out of the driveway when it snows? At least not in
> > the world according to Kuthe. LOL
>
> Nor in the world according to me either. Here in Virginia, a deep
> snow is so rare, we just take a few days off until it melts. No
> worries.

Here in Michigan, we get a bunch of snow all winter long. I can't
always wait for the snowplows and salt trucks to come by before I
leave for work.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:46:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ==
>
> Oh, I am sorry

In the year 2018 the Gods of technology are still no match for the ancient Gods of nature.

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:49:02 PM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>
> 27 inches of rain in 24 hours. oh man! ;-o

There's a wonderful picture of Laird Hamilton evacuating some girls who were at a sleepover. Two of them are wearing what seems to be wetsuits. Who the heck wears wetsuits at a sleepover?

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 6:42:28 AM UTC-10, Thomas wrote:
>
> I BOUGHT the DELUXE version!!!!
>
> (Because I'm a GENIUS!!!)
>
> (Really!!)
>
> (SEE?!)

Congrats on your new magical keyboard!!!!

My uncle Charlie says that just because you have taken some computer science classes in skool, it doesn't mean you get to call yourself a scientist!!!

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 2:33:14 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 6:42:28 AM UTC-10, Thomas wrote:
> >
> > I BOUGHT the DELUXE version!!!!
> >
> > (Because I'm a GENIUS!!!)
> >
> > (Really!!)
> >
> > (SEE?!)
>
> Congrats on your new magical keyboard!!!!
>
> My uncle Charlie says that just because you have taken some computer science classes in skool, it doesn't mean you get to call yourself a scientist!!!

My rule of thumb is "If it has 'science' in the name, it isn't".

Cindy Hamilton
Computer "Scientist"

On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 06:08:27 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 6:21:29 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 03:13:10 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Yawn. It's a car: a tool for moving me and my stuff from point A to point B.
>> >Neither the Tesla nor the Leaf is sufficient to my needs.
>>
>> If it has more than 2 wheels and a roof and actually starts, I'm good.
>> I don't need airco, cruise control, bum warmers, hill start assist or
>> automated lane change warning systems. That's all so Ed Pawlowski.
>
>I need something that will get me up out of my driveway when it snows,
>pull a utility trailer, provide ready access to groceries (I hate
>bending down to lift them out of a car's trunk), and haul a decent
>amount of stuff when I don't want to pull the trailer. I've got a
>2004 Toyota Highlander. Air-conditioning is a must in this climate.

Sounds good to me and I'd want airco too where you live. Here, I just
open two opposing windows to get a cool breeze.