I buy bottles of chilled wine from a local supermarket's chiller /
fridge. When I bring them home, I leave them unopened at room
temperature.

Is it safe to do so? Can I leave the wine to stay at room temperature
for weeks / months, or will it spoil? Should I place the wine in the
fridge?

ty for wisdom

On 2017-11-01, > wrote:

> Is it safe to do so? Can I leave the wine to stay at room temperature
> for weeks / months, or will it spoil? Should I place the wine in the
> fridge?


One traditionally serves white wine chilled and red wine at room temp.

Both need NOT be chilled for storage. They will store nicely at a low
room temps (hence "wine cellars"), indefinitely, but both wines should be
stored with corked end pointing downward (or at least laying down
level) to make sure the cork remains wet from the wine contents, so as
not to dry out the cork and allow oxygen to enter the bottle.

nb

nb plus 1

On 11/1/2017 6:27 PM, Thomas wrote:
> nb plus 1
>


+2, but with modification

Chilled for white win usually means 44 to 47 degrees. Much colder and
you lose some of the flavors when drinking. I store mine at 47.

Red is at room temperature providing your rooms are cool. I store mine
at 64 degrees and then open it about 15 minutes before I'm going to
drink it. By then it is about 67 degrees. In a warm room of 72 or more
it is not as pleasant to drink. Some wines are best decanted an hour
before serving.

Once opened, I prefer to refrigerate, but you can leave it out. The
problem though is oxidation once the wine is exposed to the air.

If you are buying modest price wine, consider a boxed wine. The big
advantage is you can keep them for weeks as no aire gets to the wine to
spoil it.

Experiment, especially with reds. Open the bottle and take a taste.
Come back in 15 minutes and take another sip. Come back in another 15
minutes. Some reds are a bit harsh righ out of the bottle but in 15
minutes or more they are very smooth and fuller tasting.

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 21:18:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>Once opened, I prefer to refrigerate, but you can leave it out. The
>problem though is oxidation once the wine is exposed to the air.

Cool (so to speak). So I can take home a white wine which has been
refrigerated in a supermarket, open it, and leave it at room
temperature for a couple of weeks before drinking?

This seems excessively cautious, but I like to take care.

On 11/4/2017 7:03 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 21:18:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Once opened, I prefer to refrigerate, but you can leave it out. The
>> problem though is oxidation once the wine is exposed to the air.
>
> Cool (so to speak). So I can take home a white wine which has been
> refrigerated in a supermarket, open it, and leave it at room
> temperature for a couple of weeks before drinking?
>
> This seems excessively cautious, but I like to take care.
>

In a couple of weeks you will see changes. I'd plan no more than a
week. A purist would tell you a day or so. If you have the space,
refrigeration would be better.

wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>Once opened, I prefer to refrigerate, but you can leave it out. The
>>problem though is oxidation once the wine is exposed to the air.
>
>Cool (so to speak). So I can take home a white wine which has been
>refrigerated in a supermarket, open it, and leave it at room
>temperature for a couple of weeks before drinking?
>
>This seems excessively cautious, but I like to take care.

The last time I was into drinking wine it was Carlo Rossi Rhine, ice
cold, $4.99/gallon. I'd pour it into a fancy schmancy cut glass
decanter and keep in in my fridge... guests who considered themselves
wine mavens loved it until I showed them the bottle. I've long ago
come to the conclusion that so called wine affectionados judge wine by
price. I've seen people carefully perusing the wine list at pricey
restaurants and choose something they've never tasted previously but
were willing to drop sixty bucks on a bottle, and then couldn't finish
the first glass.

On 1 Nov 2017 21:06:05 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2017-11-01, > wrote:
>
>> Is it safe to do so? Can I leave the wine to stay at room temperature
>> for weeks / months, or will it spoil? Should I place the wine in the
>> fridge?
>
>
>One traditionally serves white wine chilled and red wine at room temp.
>
>Both need NOT be chilled for storage. They will store nicely at a low
>room temps (hence "wine cellars"), indefinitely, but both wines should be
>stored with corked end pointing downward (or at least laying down
>level) to make sure the cork remains wet from the wine contents, so as
>not to dry out the cork and allow oxygen to enter the bottle.

Just buy Australian wines. They all come with screw tops. No cork
problems

On 11/1/2017 4:47 PM, Bruce wrote:
> Just buy Australian wines. They all come with screw tops. No cork
> problems

Auz-alkys like to slam that shit down fast!

On 2017-11-01 4:52 PM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> On 11/1/2017 4:47 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> Just buy Australian wines. They all come with screw tops. No cork
>> problems
>
> Auz-alkys like to slam that shit down fast!

Whereas you prefer to distil your own:-)

On 11/1/2017 7:14 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2017-11-01 4:52 PM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
>> On 11/1/2017 4:47 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> Just buy Australian wines. They all come with screw tops. No cork
>>> problems
>>
>> Auz-alkys like to slam that shit down fast!
>
> Whereas you prefer to distil your own:-)


I was tempted to make some Meade once, too fiddly and the stuff I tried
was meh.

I have made some killer good amateur Kahlua.

https://www.beanilla.com/blog/homemade-kahlua-recipe

Ingredients:

4 cups water
1 1/2 cups instant coffee crystals
4 1/2 cups 100 proof vodka
8 cups sugar
2 vanilla beans


Aged a year or less - not that it needed to be.

It happens that Casa de los peregrinos formulated :
> On 11/1/2017 4:47 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> Just buy Australian wines. They all come with screw tops. No cork
>> problems
>
> Auz-alkys like to slam that shit down fast!
>
wertz forged.

On 2017-11-01, Bruce > wrote:

> Just buy Australian wines. They all come with screw tops. No cork
> problems

True, dat!

Australian and New Zealand wines are the new wine glut, specially
reds. Quite tasty and the price it right, now that CA is considered
the wine capital of the planet.

Myself, I still prefer French white Burgundies (Chardonnays) and
Champagne and will pay the higher prices for 'em. CA Chards and
sparkling wines are terrible, depite large French Champagne wineries
buying huge tracts of land in Napa Valley. Brands like Moet/Chandon,
Mumm's, etc, are now making "sparkling wines" using CA grapes (still
tastes like Cook's or Cold Duck).

On the not-so-bright side, at least now, CA wineries have an excuse for their
extremely charcoal-heavy chards.

BTW, corks will become a non-issue when we run outta cork trees. CA
has some premium brands using screw tops, but to keep CA oenophiles
happy, plastic corks. 8|

nb

On 2017-11-02 10:05 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-11-01, Bruce > wrote:
>
>
> BTW, corks will become a non-issue when we run outta cork trees. CA
> has some premium brands using screw tops, but to keep CA oenophiles
> happy, plastic corks. 8|

There are some wines that have synthetic cork stoppers, but screw tops
are the way to go for a lot of wines. They create a better seal, and
they are easy top open. You don't get corked wine with a screw cap. It
is just a misinformed public mind set that only cheap wine comes in
screw top bottles.

On 11/2/2017 10:25 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-11-02 10:05 AM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2017-11-01, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>
>> BTW, corks will become a non-issue when we run outta cork trees.Â* CA
>> has some premium brands using screw tops, but to keep CA oenophiles
>> happy, plastic corks.Â* 8|
>
> There are some wines that have synthetic cork stoppers, but screw tops
> are the way to go for a lot of wines. They create a better seal, and
> they are easy top open. You don't get corked wine with a screw cap.Â* It
> is just a misinformed public mind set that only cheap wine comes in
> screw top bottles.
>
I bought a bottle of wine with a screw top and couldn't get the damn
thing open! I had to (very carefully) use the tip of a sharp knife to
cut through the perforation around the cap before I could get the cap to
turn. Give me a synthetic cork and a corkscrew any day!

Jill

On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 10:25:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-11-02 10:05 AM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2017-11-01, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>
>> BTW, corks will become a non-issue when we run outta cork trees. CA
>> has some premium brands using screw tops, but to keep CA oenophiles
>> happy, plastic corks. 8|
>
>There are some wines that have synthetic cork stoppers, but screw tops
>are the way to go for a lot of wines. They create a better seal, and
>they are easy top open. You don't get corked wine with a screw cap. It
>is just a misinformed public mind set that only cheap wine comes in
>screw top bottles.

I think that used to be the case, but no longer.

On 2017-11-02 8:05 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-11-01, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> Just buy Australian wines. They all come with screw tops. No cork
>> problems
>
> True, dat!
>
> Australian and New Zealand wines are the new wine glut, specially
> reds. Quite tasty and the price it right, now that CA is considered
> the wine capital of the planet.
>
Only by Californians, perhaps!
Visit Bordeaux, Beaune, the Languedoc or Rhone Valley. You'd soon change
your mind.

On 2017-11-02, graham > wrote:

> Only by Californians, perhaps! Visit Bordeaux, Beaune, the
> Languedoc or Rhone Valley. You'd soon change your mind.

I've already changed it. Read much?

nb

On 11/2/2017 7:31 AM, graham wrote:

> Only by Californians, perhaps!
> Visit Bordeaux, Beaune, the Languedoc or Rhone Valley. You'd soon change
> your mind.

Um, this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Paris_(wine)