On 2016-08-14 1:38 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 1:31:39 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:

>> Thanks to modern moral standards and a generous welfare system, the
>> people around here who seem to be having the most kids are the young,
>> unmarried welfare mothers. In the past, girls who accidentally got
>> pregnant were sent off to live with an aunt. Parents were embarrassed by
>> the shame of their daughter's immoral and irresponsible behaviour and
>> tried to hide the indiscretion. These days people have no problem
>> bragging about their unmarried daughters having a number of children by
>> different fathers. The fathers are generally not in the picture and the
>> mothers get to stay home and live on welfare. Great role models for
>> children.
>
> On the other hand, I've seen horrendous parenting from middle-class and
> upper-middle-class parents. They give their kids everything except
> discipline, and the result is arrogant entitlement.

That's true in some cases, but I think that the majority of those are
better prepared to deal with the world than those from single parent
families growing up on welfare.

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:37:00 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-08-14 1:38 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 1:31:39 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> Thanks to modern moral standards and a generous welfare system, the
>>> people around here who seem to be having the most kids are the young,
>>> unmarried welfare mothers. In the past, girls who accidentally got
>>> pregnant were sent off to live with an aunt. Parents were embarrassed by
>>> the shame of their daughter's immoral and irresponsible behaviour and
>>> tried to hide the indiscretion. These days people have no problem
>>> bragging about their unmarried daughters having a number of children by
>>> different fathers. The fathers are generally not in the picture and the
>>> mothers get to stay home and live on welfare. Great role models for
>>> children.
>>
>> On the other hand, I've seen horrendous parenting from middle-class and
>> upper-middle-class parents. They give their kids everything except
>> discipline, and the result is arrogant entitlement.
>
>That's true in some cases, but I think that the majority of those are
>better prepared to deal with the world than those from single parent
>families growing up on welfare.

I say both can end up equally F'ed up.