On 8/13/2016 9:42 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 9:47:42 AM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 8/13/2016 8:39 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 7:22:46 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> This is America. We barely care about drunk driving, as evinced by
>>>>> our lenient drunk-driving laws.
>>>>
>>>> Lenient? Don't get caught DUI in Virginia.
>>>
>>> Virginia:
>>>
>>> Virginia categorizes a first DUI offense as a class 1 misdemeanor and imposes a fine ranginging from $250 to $2,500. The law also imposes a one-year license suspension. The punishment increases if you were arrested with a BAC of 0.15% or higher in which case your sentence may include a minimum five-day jail sentence..
>>>
>>> Sweden:
>>>
>>> Surpassing the limit is a serious offence, fined with ‚¬500. Driving with an alcohol rate over 0.12% is a crime (up to 6 months imprisonment and license suspension up to 4 years). Sweden: 0.02% (up to 6 months imprisonment), 0.10% (imprisonment, maximum 2 years).
>>
>> What about Cananda? That's where lucretia lives. Just because some
>> country has draconian laws doesn't mean ours are bad.
>
> Canada's laws seem only slightly stiffer than ours.
>
There are two sets of laws here. Driving over .08 is a criminal and
therefore a Federal offence and if no injuries are involved, the
penalties are set out he
http://tiny.cc/1xuxdy

However, some Provinces have also added administrative penalties for
over .05 (they are not allowed to pass their own criminal laws as they
are federal jurisdiction). In Alberta the following are added:
Implemented July 1, 2012
For drivers with blood alcohol over .08:

Criminal charge for BAC over .08, impaired by drugs or alcohol or
refusal to provide requested sample(s).
Immediate licence suspension which is sustained until criminal
charge is resolved.
1st charge: sustained licence suspension and 3-day vehicle seizure,
€œPlanning Ahead€� course.
2nd charge: sustained licence suspension, 7- day vehicle seizure,
€œImpact€� course.
3rd charge: sustained licence suspension, 7-day vehicle seizure,
€œImpact€� course.
Mandatory ignition interlock after criminal conviction €“ 1 year for
1st conviction; 3 years for 2nd conviction; 5 years for 3rd conviction.

Implemented September 1, 2012
For drivers with Blood Alcohol .05 to .08:

1st offence - Immediate 3-day licence suspension and 3-day vehicle
seizure.
2nd offence - Immediate 15-day licence suspension, 7-day vehicle
seizure, €œPlanning Ahead€� course.
3rd offence - Immediate 30-day licence suspension, 7-day vehicle
seizure, €œImpact€� course.

Implemented July 1, 2012
For new (GDL) drivers with blood alcohol over .00

GDL driver found with any blood alcohol - Immediate 30-day licence
suspension and 7-day vehicle seizure

On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 11:08:32 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 8/13/2016 9:42 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 9:47:42 AM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 8/13/2016 8:39 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 7:22:46 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> This is America. We barely care about drunk driving, as evinced by
>>>>>> our lenient drunk-driving laws.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lenient? Don't get caught DUI in Virginia.
>>>>
>>>> Virginia:
>>>>
>>>> Virginia categorizes a first DUI offense as a class 1 misdemeanor and imposes a fine ranginging from $250 to $2,500. The law also imposes a one-year license suspension. The punishment increases if you were arrested with a BAC of 0.15% or higher in which case your sentence may include a minimum five-day jail sentence..
>>>>
>>>> Sweden:
>>>>
>>>> Surpassing the limit is a serious offence, fined with €500. Driving with an alcohol rate over 0.12% is a crime (up to 6 months imprisonment and license suspension up to 4 years). Sweden: 0.02% (up to 6 months imprisonment), 0.10% (imprisonment, maximum 2 years).
>>>
>>> What about Cananda? That's where lucretia lives. Just because some
>>> country has draconian laws doesn't mean ours are bad.
>>
>> Canada's laws seem only slightly stiffer than ours.
>>
>There are two sets of laws here. Driving over .08 is a criminal and
>therefore a Federal offence and if no injuries are involved, the
>penalties are set out he
>http://tiny.cc/1xuxdy
>
>However, some Provinces have also added administrative penalties for
>over .05 (they are not allowed to pass their own criminal laws as they
>are federal jurisdiction). In Alberta the following are added:
> Implemented July 1, 2012
>For drivers with blood alcohol over .08:
>
> Criminal charge for BAC over .08, impaired by drugs or alcohol or
>refusal to provide requested sample(s).
> Immediate licence suspension which is sustained until criminal
>charge is resolved.
> 1st charge: sustained licence suspension and 3-day vehicle seizure,
>“Planning Ahead” course.
> 2nd charge: sustained licence suspension, 7- day vehicle seizure,
>“Impact” course.
> 3rd charge: sustained licence suspension, 7-day vehicle seizure,
>“Impact” course.
> Mandatory ignition interlock after criminal conviction – 1 year for
>1st conviction; 3 years for 2nd conviction; 5 years for 3rd conviction.
>
>Implemented September 1, 2012
>For drivers with Blood Alcohol .05 to .08:
>
> 1st offence - Immediate 3-day licence suspension and 3-day vehicle
>seizure.
> 2nd offence - Immediate 15-day licence suspension, 7-day vehicle
>seizure, “Planning Ahead” course.
> 3rd offence - Immediate 30-day licence suspension, 7-day vehicle
>seizure, “Impact” course.
>
>Implemented July 1, 2012
>For new (GDL) drivers with blood alcohol over .00
>
> GDL driver found with any blood alcohol - Immediate 30-day licence
>suspension and 7-day vehicle seizure
>
I don't take chances, happily I have several non-drinking friends for
when I am out and for family do's my eldest grandson lives nearby and
they always pick me up. I wouldn't take the chance anyway, have seen
what it can do.

We came here nearly 50 years ago now and I am very happy that there is
a total attitude change on that score. People used to think tales
about how they just managed to get home after a party were funny...