On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 02:38:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:


>> Don't they have any concerns about drivers being over the limit after
>> they leave?
>
>This is America. We barely care about drunk driving, as evinced by
>our lenient drunk-driving laws. It's as if driving was a civil right
>or something.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Phew! I didn't know that. The level is very low here and now in
addition to roadside checks there are all sorts of PSAs urging people
to phone in if they see a driver acting erratically - if they use
their mobile it has to be a hands free, not legal any other way.

On 8/13/2016 7:33 AM, wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 02:38:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>
>>> Don't they have any concerns about drivers being over the limit after
>>> they leave?
>>
>> This is America. We barely care about drunk driving, as evinced by
>> our lenient drunk-driving laws. It's as if driving was a civil right
>> or something.

> Phew! I didn't know that. The level is very low here and now in
> addition to roadside checks there are all sorts of PSAs urging people
> to phone in if they see a driver acting erratically - if they use
> their mobile it has to be a hands free, not legal any other way.

It's exactly the same way here. Much different than what Cindy
says about where she lives.

Hands free phone is a joke, too, it's been proven many times,
they just can't enforce you to stop talking while you're driving.
The thing is, from my experience, people don't talk much on the
phone anymore, they text. They aren't doing that hands free from
what I can see.

nancy

On 8/13/2016 12:01 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 08:04:49 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> Hands free phone is a joke, too, it's been proven many times,
>> they just can't enforce you to stop talking while you're driving.
>> The thing is, from my experience, people don't talk much on the
>> phone anymore, they text. They aren't doing that hands free from
>> what I can see.
>
> Here, the cops drive around in busses and tall trucks to catch people
> texting and talking on their phones.

Now that you mention it, more and more of our cop cars are
SUVs these days. Maybe that's why.

> And nowadays speech-to-text
> features of phones are fairly advanced allowing people to text and
> drive hands-free.
>
> People still love pressing buttons on their cell phones.

Yeah, they all have their phones in hand.

Have you noticed this phenomenon? Used to be people would see the
stop line and stop halfway across it. Now it's very common for
people to stop easily a car length away from it. I could pull in
front of them sometimes. Ditto stopping behind other cars at a
light.

My theory is that people texting are so used to trying to keep a
cushion so they don't run into other cars, they don't even realize
they've stopped too soon. Looking at their phone.

nancy

On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 10:58:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 08:33:53 -0300, wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 02:38:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> Don't they have any concerns about drivers being over the limit after
>>>> they leave?
>>>
>>>This is America. We barely care about drunk driving, as evinced by
>>>our lenient drunk-driving laws. It's as if driving was a civil right
>>>or something.
>>>
>>>Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Phew! I didn't know that.
>
>It's not like that. The U.S. laws are comparable to most other
>developed countries, and even more strict than Canada.
>
>-sw

It's .05 here.

On 2016-08-13 3:52 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 10:58:55 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 08:33:53 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 02:38:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Don't they have any concerns about drivers being over the limit after
>>>>> they leave?
>>>>
>>>> This is America. We barely care about drunk driving, as evinced by
>>>> our lenient drunk-driving laws. It's as if driving was a civil right
>>>> or something.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> Phew! I didn't know that.
>>
>> It's not like that. The U.S. laws are comparable to most other
>> developed countries, and even more strict than Canada.
>>
>> -sw
>
> It's .05 here.
>

The .05 limit is for a roadside administrative suspension for 24 hours.
It does not carry a fine or imprisonment.