http://www.missvickie.com/howto/cook...eviations.html
or if you prefer the wisdom of Betty Crocker
http://www.bettycrocker.com/how-to/t...-abbreviations

Janet US

On 5/13/2016 6:51 PM, Janet B wrote:
>
> http://www.missvickie.com/howto/cook...eviations.html
> or if you prefer the wisdom of Betty Crocker
> http://www.bettycrocker.com/how-to/t...-abbreviations
>
> Janet US
>
Fun! My mother had a list of common abbreviations for measuring taped
to the front of the refrigerator. I "inherited" that refrigerator. The
list is still there. Sometimes I even refer to it.

Jill

In article >,
Janet B > wrote:

> http://www.missvickie.com/howto/cook...eviations.html
> or if you prefer the wisdom of Betty Crocker
> http://www.bettycrocker.com/how-to/t...-measuring/equ
> ivalent-measures-abbreviations

I've been collecting recipes off the internet for a long time. There's
more than a little variation in the abbreviations for common measures
and I like things a bit more uniform, so I've written some scripts that
regularize things. Whenever a recipe doesn't get modified properly, I
find the offending (because never before seen) abbreviation and add it
to the script so it'll get fixed next time.

Here are a few of the abbreviations I've come across:

For tablespoons: {" Tbsp. ", " tablespoons ", " tablespoon ", "
Tablespoon ", " Tablespoons ", " tblsp ", " tblsp. ", " tbls ", " tbls.
", " tbsp", " Tbsp ", " tbsp. ", " tbl ", " tbl. ", " tbs ", " tbs. ", "
Tbs ", " Tbs. ", " tb ", " TB ", " TBS ", " tb. ", " T. ", " T "}, ?

For teaspoons: {" tsp. ", " teaspoons ", " Teaspoons ", " teaspoon ",
" teasp", " Teaspoon ", " tsp ", " ts ", " ts. ", " t. "}, ?

For pounds: {" lb. ", " pounds ", " pound ", " lbs ", " lbs. ", "
Lb. ", " Lb ", " lb "}, ?

From the above, it would appear that the least likely to be standardized
is tablespoons. Go figure.

For explanation, the way the script works is to scan that text, and any
time it finds any "word" in the list, it replaces it with the first word
in the list.

Anybody with a Mac who knows a little about AppleScript and how to set
up a "Service", let me know if you want a copy of the script.

Isaac

I am surprised they don't show a # for pound. That is common.
As a matter of fact, when you are following any kind of voice
Tree instructions on the phone, you will often hear, "...and then
press the pound key."

N.

On Sat, 14 May 2016 08:50:53 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>I am surprised they don't show a # for pound. That is common.
>As a matter of fact, when you are following any kind of voice
>Tree instructions on the phone, you will often hear, "...and then
>press the pound key."
>
>N.
I noticed that too.
Janet US

On 5/14/2016 12:32 PM, Janet B wrote:

> On Sat, 14 May 2016 08:50:53 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>> I am surprised they don't show a # for pound. That is common.
>> As a matter of fact, when you are following any kind of voice
>> Tree instructions on the phone, you will often hear, "...and then
>> press the pound key."
>>
>> N.
> I noticed that too.
> Janet US
>
It probably just sounds more grown up than saying press the hashkey sign.

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On 5/15/2016 5:11 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 5/14/2016 12:32 PM, Janet B wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 May 2016 08:50:53 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I am surprised they don't show a # for pound. That is common.
>>> As a matter of fact, when you are following any kind of voice
>>> Tree instructions on the phone, you will often hear, "...and then
>>> press the pound key."
>>>
>>> N.
>> I noticed that too.
>> Janet US
>>
> It probably just sounds more grown up than saying press the hashkey sign.
>
Hashtag sign/key. You can see I'm not all that savvy with the hashtag
stuff. lol

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Cheryl

In article om>,
Cheryl > wrote:

> On 5/14/2016 12:32 PM, Janet B wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 14 May 2016 08:50:53 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I am surprised they don't show a # for pound. That is common.
> >> As a matter of fact, when you are following any kind of voice
> >> Tree instructions on the phone, you will often hear, "...and then
> >> press the pound key."
> >>
> >> N.
> > I noticed that too.
> > Janet US
> >
> It probably just sounds more grown up than saying press the hashkey sign.

If you had asked the phone company back in the day when they decided to
stick it in the corner of the Touch-Tone keypad, you would have been
told that the name of that key was "octothorpe".

Isaac

On 5/15/2016 5:11 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 5/14/2016 12:32 PM, Janet B wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 May 2016 08:50:53 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I am surprised they don't show a # for pound. That is common.
>>> As a matter of fact, when you are following any kind of voice
>>> Tree instructions on the phone, you will often hear, "...and then
>>> press the pound key."
>>>
>>> N.
>> I noticed that too.
>> Janet US
>>
> It probably just sounds more grown up than saying press the hashkey sign.
>
Hashtags weren't really called that until the advent of Twitter, were they?

Jill

On 5/15/2016 5:24 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2016 17:11:40 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> On 5/14/2016 12:32 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 14 May 2016 08:50:53 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am surprised they don't show a # for pound. That is common.
>>>> As a matter of fact, when you are following any kind of voice
>>>> Tree instructions on the phone, you will often hear, "...and then
>>>> press the pound key."
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>> I noticed that too.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> It probably just sounds more grown up than saying press the hashkey sign.
>
> You mean the number sign? ;-) Also known as the octothorpe and hash,
> but not hashkey - which means something else. Unfortunately it will
> probably be called the hashtag in the next generation.
>
> -sw
>
LOL! I corrected myself. Not #hashtag savvy over here !!

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On 5/15/2016 3:24 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You mean the number sign? ;-)

I have been stuffing my fat little ****ing face again with food I
'borrowed' from:

https://www.austinfoodbank.org/news/...unteer-quarter


OK I admit it, I am eating my way through Texas.

Make me a zip code, or two.

On 5/14/2016 11:03 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I'm going to wait for the Perl

I have been stuffing my fat little ****ing face again with food I
'borrowed' from:

https://www.austinfoodbank.org/news/...unteer-quarter


OK I admit it, I am eating my way through Texas.

Make me a zip code, or two.

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Fri, 13 May 2016 21:35:50 -0700, isw wrote:
>
> > Anybody with a Mac who knows a little about AppleScript and how to set
> > up a "Service", let me know if you want a copy of the script.
>
> I'm going to wait for the Perl or Javascript version ;-) Or better
> yet, this would be a perfect applications of Greasemonkey (on-the-fly
> Javascript modification of web pages).
>
> It figures Apple would have it's own proprietary scripting language
> when there's only 300+ public domain scripting languages already out
> there.

Well, Macs offer essentially all those others too (at least, all the
*NIX ones), but AppleScript and Automator make things a whole lot easier
for the non-gurus among us (and that's me, for sure).

Just to mention: AppleScript long predated Apple's use of *NIX-based
OSes. It came out with the introduction of System 7, in 1991. At that
time, it may have been the most widely available of all scripting
languages, since in 1991 Macs were more common than UNIX boxes and LINUX
hadn't been introduced yet. So, I suppose, anybody who wanted to could
have copied it ...

Isaac

Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> http://www.missvickie.com/howto/cook...eviations.html
> or if you prefer the wisdom of Betty Crocker
> http://www.bettycrocker.com/how-to/t...metables-measu
> ring/equivalent-measures-abbreviations
>
> Janet US

With the advent of recipe software, you were limited to 2 characters.
tsp became ts or TS.

If you run a recipe software, it allows MealMaster origional imports os
is crapware. The extra 'p' on ts or tb is irrelevant.

Carol

--

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> http://www.missvickie.com/howto/cook...eviations.html
>> or if you prefer the wisdom of Betty Crocker
>> http://www.bettycrocker.com/how-to/t...metables-measu
>> ring/equivalent-measures-abbreviations
>>
>> Janet US
>
> With the advent of recipe software, you were limited to 2 characters.
> tsp became ts or TS.
>
> If you run a recipe software, it allows MealMaster origional imports os
> is crapware. The extra 'p' on ts or tb is irrelevant.
>
> Carol

I don't think it did. I have never seen that. And the capital letters are
always for Tablespoon.

In article >,
"cshenk" > wrote:

> Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> >
> > http://www.missvickie.com/howto/cook...eviations.html
> > or if you prefer the wisdom of Betty Crocker
> > http://www.bettycrocker.com/how-to/t...metables-measu
> > ring/equivalent-measures-abbreviations
> >
> > Janet US
>
> With the advent of recipe software, you were limited to 2 characters.
> tsp became ts or TS

I have been using MacGourmet for years, and it doesn't care how long the
names are. Nor what they are. Nor, for that matter, what alphabet is
used -- it's perfectly fine with a "twiddle" over the 'n' in "Jalapeno".

Hence the need for that script I posted; I didn't want all sorts of odd
names showing up for the same thing, and I wanted to choose which name
to use.

Isaac

In my world, a capital T is always a tablespoon, and a small t is always a
teaspoon. You can't get much more abbreviated than that.

N.

On 5/15/2016 6:21 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> In my world, a capital T is always a tablespoon, and a small t is always a
> teaspoon. You can't get much more abbreviated than that.
>
> N.
>

max brevity is not always the best.

handwritten recipes call out for less brevity, as you cannot always tell
a T from a t.

Taxed and Spent wrote:
>Nancy2 wrote:
>> In my world, a capital T is always a tablespoon, and a small t is always a
>> teaspoon. You can't get much more abbreviated than that.
>
>max brevity is not always the best.
>handwritten recipes call out for less brevity, as you cannot always tell
>a T from a t.

This is true... and with how some write it's impossible to make sense
of any of it. Most young people nowadays never write without a key
board... many schools are thinking of doing away with teaching cursive
altogether, even printing is rarely used anymore.... and even when
taught if they don't use it they lose it. Used to be doctors wrote Rx
with a pen on paper but now they are *required* to send Rx
electronically. Try to remember when you last received anything
handwritten via snail mail.

On 2016-05-15, Taxed and Spent > wrote:

> handwritten recipes call out for less brevity, as you cannot always tell
> a T from a t.

I can.

I always use a T or a t when handwriting a recipe. I didn't realize
this was such a huge problem. The regulars, here, should know the
difference based merely on the size of the recipe. Who uses 3/4
tablespoon of salt in a pie crust, etc.

nb

On Sunday, May 15, 2016 at 8:33:54 AM UTC-5, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
> handwritten recipes call out for less brevity, as you cannot always tell
> a T from a t.
>
>
Really? A capital T is not easily distinguished from a
lower case t? Granted this is a plus sign -- + but hand
written a lower case t is quite similar.

As my first grade teacher said when teaching us how to
print "Draw a line straight down to the line on your
paper. Now draw a line across the very top of that
straight line and you have a capital T." She likened
it to putting a 'hat' on that line. She was used the
phrase to make it simple to understand while teaching
a classroom of 6 year olds and to hold our attention.

On Sunday, May 15, 2016 at 8:21:20 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
>
> In my world, a capital T is always a tablespoon, and a small t is always a
> teaspoon. You can't get much more abbreviated than that.
>
> N.
>
>
Amen. I always saw recipes with T. for tablespoon and
t. for teaspoon. Within the last 20 years or so I started
seeing tsp. and Tbl./Tbls. etc. and all I can think what
started this is young cooks who started watching the
cooking shows and were confused with the standard
abbreviations. Does that sound plausible?

On Sunday, May 15, 2016 at 2:43:02 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 15, 2016 at 8:21:20 AM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
> >
> > In my world, a capital T is always a tablespoon, and a small t is always a
> > teaspoon. You can't get much more abbreviated than that.
> >
> > N.
> >
> >
> Amen. I always saw recipes with T. for tablespoon and
> t. for teaspoon. Within the last 20 years or so I started
> seeing tsp. and Tbl./Tbls. etc. and all I can think what
> started this is young cooks who started watching the
> cooking shows and were confused with the standard
> abbreviations. Does that sound plausible?

I've seen tsp and tbsp, etc. for years. For myself, I use T and t,
to reduce typing. For others, I usually spell the words out.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/13/2016 5:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I especially like the 'Recipe Equivalents"
>

I have been stuffing my fat little ****ing face again with food I
'borrowed' from:

https://www.austinfoodbank.org/news/...unteer-quarter


OK I admit it, I am eating my way through Texas.

Make me a zip code, or two.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 13 May 2016 16:51:24 -0600, Janet B wrote:
>
>> http://www.missvickie.com/howto/cook...eviations.html
>> or if you prefer the wisdom of Betty Crocker
>> http://www.bettycrocker.com/how-to/t...-abbreviations
>>
>> Janet US
>
> And I actually agree with them all! Too bad a lot of Internet recipe
> writers can't be bothered with these.
>
> I especially like the 'Recipe Equivalents" column as it irks me when I
> see recipes that haven't been reduced to the lowest common
> denominators using the most appropriate measuring device.
>
> -sw

Somebody got me a big fridge magnet with this stuff on it. But I don't
think I've ever used it.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 13 May 2016 18:00:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 13 May 2016 16:51:24 -0600, Janet B wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.missvickie.com/howto/cook...eviations.html
>>>> or if you prefer the wisdom of Betty Crocker
>>>> http://www.bettycrocker.com/how-to/t...-abbreviations
>>>>
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> And I actually agree with them all! Too bad a lot of Internet recipe
>>> writers can't be bothered with these.
>>>
>>> I especially like the 'Recipe Equivalents" column as it irks me when I
>>> see recipes that haven't been reduced to the lowest common
>>> denominators using the most appropriate measuring device.
>>
>> Somebody got me a big fridge magnet with this stuff on it. But I don't
>> think I've ever used it.
>
> People who cook a lot shouldn't need it.

The person who gave it to me doesn't cook. They also got me an apron with
some sort of useful information although I can't remember what. I never
wear an apron unless required.

On 5/13/2016 7:11 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> People who cook a lot shouldn't need it.
>
> -sw

I have been stuffing my fat little ****ing face again with food I
'borrowed' from:

https://www.austinfoodbank.org/news/...unteer-quarter


OK I admit it, I am eating my way through Texas.

Make me a zip code, or two.

Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Fri, 13 May 2016 18:00:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Fri, 13 May 2016 16:51:24 -0600, Janet B wrote:
> > >
> >>> http://www.missvickie.com/howto/cook...eviations.html
> >>> or if you prefer the wisdom of Betty Crocker
> >>>
> http://www.bettycrocker.com/how-to/t...metables-measu
> ring/equivalent-measures-abbreviations
> > > >
> >>> Janet US
> > >
> >> And I actually agree with them all! Too bad a lot of Internet
> recipe >> writers can't be bothered with these.
> > >
> >> I especially like the 'Recipe Equivalents" column as it irks me
> when I >> see recipes that haven't been reduced to the lowest common
> >> denominators using the most appropriate measuring device.
> >
> > Somebody got me a big fridge magnet with this stuff on it. But I
> > don't think I've ever used it.
>
> People who cook a lot shouldn't need it.
>
> -sw

Grin, they dont. The idea that somone can't figure out TS vs. ts is a
bit macabre for even here.

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"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Fri, 13 May 2016 18:00:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On Fri, 13 May 2016 16:51:24 -0600, Janet B wrote:
>> > >
>> >>> http://www.missvickie.com/howto/cook...eviations.html
>> >>> or if you prefer the wisdom of Betty Crocker
>> >>>
>> http://www.bettycrocker.com/how-to/t...metables-measu
>> ring/equivalent-measures-abbreviations
>> > > >
>> >>> Janet US
>> > >
>> >> And I actually agree with them all! Too bad a lot of Internet
>> recipe >> writers can't be bothered with these.
>> > >
>> >> I especially like the 'Recipe Equivalents" column as it irks me
>> when I >> see recipes that haven't been reduced to the lowest common
>> >> denominators using the most appropriate measuring device.
>> >
>> > Somebody got me a big fridge magnet with this stuff on it. But I
>> > don't think I've ever used it.
>>
>> People who cook a lot shouldn't need it.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Grin, they dont. The idea that somone can't figure out TS vs. ts is a
> bit macabre for even here.

No it's not. You seem to be the only one who uses that.

On Sat, 14 May 2016 11:24:00 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Fri, 13 May 2016 18:00:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On Fri, 13 May 2016 16:51:24 -0600, Janet B wrote:
>> > >
>> >>> http://www.missvickie.com/howto/cook...eviations.html
>> >>> or if you prefer the wisdom of Betty Crocker
>> >>>
>> http://www.bettycrocker.com/how-to/t...metables-measu
>> ring/equivalent-measures-abbreviations
>> > > >
>> >>> Janet US
>> > >
>> >> And I actually agree with them all! Too bad a lot of Internet
>> recipe >> writers can't be bothered with these.
>> > >
>> >> I especially like the 'Recipe Equivalents" column as it irks me
>> when I >> see recipes that haven't been reduced to the lowest common
>> >> denominators using the most appropriate measuring device.
>> >
>> > Somebody got me a big fridge magnet with this stuff on it. But I
>> > don't think I've ever used it.
>>
>> People who cook a lot shouldn't need it.
>>
>> -sw
>
>Grin, they dont. The idea that somone can't figure out TS vs. ts is a
>bit macabre for even here.

Word choice. Really?
1.disturbing and horrifying because of involvement with or depiction
of death and injury:
Janet US

On 5/14/2016 9:54 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Sat, 14 May 2016 11:24:00 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On Fri, 13 May 2016 18:00:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Fri, 13 May 2016 16:51:24 -0600, Janet B wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.missvickie.com/howto/cook...eviations.html
>>>>>> or if you prefer the wisdom of Betty Crocker
>>>>>>
>>> http://www.bettycrocker.com/how-to/t...metables-measu
>>> ring/equivalent-measures-abbreviations
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>>> And I actually agree with them all! Too bad a lot of Internet
>>> recipe >> writers can't be bothered with these.
>>>>>
>>>>> I especially like the 'Recipe Equivalents" column as it irks me
>>> when I >> see recipes that haven't been reduced to the lowest common
>>>>> denominators using the most appropriate measuring device.
>>>>
>>>> Somebody got me a big fridge magnet with this stuff on it. But I
>>>> don't think I've ever used it.
>>>
>>> People who cook a lot shouldn't need it.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> Grin, they dont. The idea that somone can't figure out TS vs. ts is a
>> bit macabre for even here.
>
> Word choice. Really?
> 1.disturbing and horrifying because of involvement with or depiction
> of death and injury:
> Janet US
>
LOL! Almost as bad as me having to grab my laptop desk while reading
some of the posts here. Good grief.

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On 5/14/2016 10:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> but never in upper case.
>
> -sw

I have been stuffing my fat little ****ing face again with food I
'borrowed' from:

https://www.austinfoodbank.org/news/...unteer-quarter


OK I admit it, I am eating my way through Texas.

Make me a zip code, or two.