On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>

What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?

> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> desserts "salad"
>
> proving again that HL Mencken was correct

The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
this definition of "salad":

<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>

1 any of various usually cold dishes: as

a : raw greens (as lettuce) often combined with other vegetables and toppings and served especially with dressing

b : small pieces of food (as pasta, meat, fruit, or vegetables) usually mixed with a dressing (as mayonnaise) or set in gelatin

2
: a green vegetable or herb grown for salad; especially : lettuce

3
: a usually incongruous mixture : hodgepodge

Sounds like Jello salad fits a couple of those definitions.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
>> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>
> What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
>
>> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> desserts "salad"
>>
>> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>
> The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> this definition of "salad":
>
><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>

I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:10:06 AM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
> >
> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
> >
> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> >> desserts "salad"
> >>
> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
> >
> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> > this definition of "salad":
> >
> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>
> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!

People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!

Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!

John Kuthe...

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:31:39 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!
>
> Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!
>
> John Kuthe...

Politicians certainly collated the book and probably wrote it too.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 8:56:23 AM UTC-6, Helpful person wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:31:39 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> > People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!
> >
> > Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> Politicians certainly collated the book and probably wrote it too.
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com

Actually, the Christian Bible has been rewritten and recompiled by every powers that be thoughout it's history, the reign of King James being the last majorally accepted version. Many "books" were left out, and many others were rewritten to suit the Ownership class of the time. Note that the modern Christian Bibie makes NO mention of the powers each human has called intelligence and critical analysis!! It's basically a book of conformity!! :-(

Screw that!!

John Kuthe...

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 11:05:22 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 8:56:23 AM UTC-6, Helpful person wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:31:39 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> > >
> > > People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!
> > >
> > > Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!
> > >
> > > John Kuthe...
> >
> > Politicians certainly collated the book and probably wrote it too.
> >
> > http://www.richardfisher.com
>
> Actually, the Christian Bible has been rewritten and recompiled by every powers that be thoughout it's history, the reign of King James being the last majorally accepted version. Many "books" were left out, and many others were rewritten to suit the Ownership class of the time. Note that the modern Christian Bibie makes NO mention of the powers each human has called intelligence and critical analysis!! It's basically a book of conformity!! :-(
>
> Screw that!!
>
> John Kuthe...

It's not a book of conformity. It's a book designed to build a power base.

http://www.richardfisher,com

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 9:14:41 AM UTC-6, Helpful person wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 11:05:22 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 8:56:23 AM UTC-6, Helpful person wrote:
> > > On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:31:39 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!
> > > >
> > > > Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!
> > > >
> > > > John Kuthe...
> > >
> > > Politicians certainly collated the book and probably wrote it too.
> > >
> > > http://www.richardfisher.com
> >
> > Actually, the Christian Bible has been rewritten and recompiled by every powers that be thoughout it's history, the reign of King James being the last majorally accepted version. Many "books" were left out, and many others were rewritten to suit the Ownership class of the time. Note that the modern Christian Bibie makes NO mention of the powers each human has called intelligence and critical analysis!! It's basically a book of conformity!! :-(
> >
> > Screw that!!
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> It's not a book of conformity. It's a book designed to build a power base.
>
> http://www.richardfisher,com

Same thing!! Ever see the movie The Book Of Eli? ;-)

John Kuthe...

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:10:06 AM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
>> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>> >
>> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
>> >
>> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> >> desserts "salad"
>> >>
>> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>> >
>> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
>> > this definition of "salad":
>> >
>> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>>
>> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!
>
>People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!

Written Schmitten...
Kootchie and Bwrrryan in JELLO is a Fruit Salad! LOL

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:10:06 AM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
>> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>> >
>> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
>> >
>> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> >> desserts "salad"
>> >>
>> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>> >
>> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
>> > this definition of "salad":
>> >
>> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>>
>> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!
>
>People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!
>
>Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!
>
>John Kuthe...

what did you cook today, John?
Janet US

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 9:25:56 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:10:06 AM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
> >> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> >> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
> >> >
> >> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
> >> >
> >> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> >> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> >> >> desserts "salad"
> >> >>
> >> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
> >> >
> >> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> >> > this definition of "salad":
> >> >
> >> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
> >>
> >> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!
> >
> >People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!
> >
> >Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!
> >
> >John Kuthe...
>
> what did you cook today, John?
> Janet US

Just my breakfast, so far. Made a big batch of my home made "baked beans" yesterday and added too much water to the sauce, so they turned out much like bean soup almost! OK because I eat them with lots of brown rice and chopped ham. It was delicious earlier this AM!

And I cook every day because I rarely buy any (many?) processed foods.

John Kuthe...

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:42:13 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 9:25:56 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
snip.
>>
>> what did you cook today, John?
>> Janet US
>
>Just my breakfast, so far. Made a big batch of my home made "baked beans" yesterday and added too much water to the sauce, so they turned out much like bean soup almost! OK because I eat them with lots of brown rice and chopped ham. It was delicious earlier this AM!
>
>And I cook every day because I rarely buy any (many?) processed foods.
>
>John Kuthe...

I'd like to hear about what you cook.
Janet US

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:42:13 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

> Just my breakfast, so far. Made a big batch of my home made "baked beans" yesterday and added too much water to the sauce, so they turned out much like bean soup almost! OK because I eat them with lots of brown rice and chopped ham. It was delicious earlier this AM!
>
> And I cook every day because I rarely buy any (many?) processed foods.

I don't think very many posters here buy processed foods, Julie as the
notable exception.

--

sf

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:42:13 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
> > Just my breakfast, so far. Made a big batch of my home made "baked
> > beans" yesterday and added too much water to the sauce, so they
> > turned out much like bean soup almost! OK because I eat them with
> > lots of brown rice and chopped ham. It was delicious earlier this
> > AM!
> >
> > And I cook every day because I rarely buy any (many?) processed
> > foods.
>
> I don't think very many posters here buy processed foods, Julie as the
> notable exception.

Actually I think all of us buy some, and some more than others. Today
it's all fresh stuff.

Duck meat Beans.

3/4-1lb cooked duck meat
8oz dry white beans
2 medium onions (one red)
2 shallots
2ts chicken bullion
1/2ts Pepper black blend from Pensey's)
3 dashes sea salt with red pepper blend (1/4ts?)
water (about 8 cups then check and add if needed)

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 9:10:06 AM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
> >
> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
> >
> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> >> desserts "salad"
> >>
> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
> >
> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> > this definition of "salad":
> >
> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>
> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!

OED was similar, although since we're talking about the American
Midwest, it didn't seem germane.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:03:18 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
> >
> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
> >
> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> >> desserts "salad"
> >>
> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
> >
> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> > this definition of "salad":
> >
> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>
> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!

It is in the USA.

--

sf

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 4:31:03 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> > <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>
> What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
>
> > it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> > some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> > desserts "salad"
> >
> > proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>
> The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> this definition of "salad":
>
> <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>
> 1 any of various usually cold dishes: as
>
> a : raw greens (as lettuce) often combined with other vegetables and toppings and served especially with dressing
>
> b : small pieces of food (as pasta, meat, fruit, or vegetables) usually mixed with a dressing (as mayonnaise) or set in gelatin
>
> 2
> : a green vegetable or herb grown for salad; especially : lettuce
>
> 3
> : a usually incongruous mixture : hodgepodge
>
> Sounds like Jello salad fits a couple of those definitions.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Still letting culture tell you who to be, eh? :-(

Culture is NOT YOUR FRIEND!!

John Kuthe...

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:29:17 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 4:31:03 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
>> > <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>>
>> What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
>>
>> > it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>> > some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> > desserts "salad"
>> >
>> > proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>>
>> The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
>> this definition of "salad":
>>
>> <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>>
>> 1 any of various usually cold dishes: as
>>
>> a : raw greens (as lettuce) often combined with other vegetables and toppings and served especially with dressing
>>
>> b : small pieces of food (as pasta, meat, fruit, or vegetables) usually mixed with a dressing (as mayonnaise) or set in gelatin
>>
>> 2
>> : a green vegetable or herb grown for salad; especially : lettuce
>>
>> 3
>> : a usually incongruous mixture : hodgepodge
>>
>> Sounds like Jello salad fits a couple of those definitions.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>Still letting culture tell you who to be, eh? :-(
>
>Culture is NOT YOUR FRIEND!!
>
>John Kuthe...

JELLO in of itself is not a salad but JELLO is often a salad dressing.