On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:11:37 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I don't mind farmed
> salmon, but I am usually willing to pay more for wild.
>

I don't like the flavor of wild, so I'm not willing to pay for it.

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sf

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>>
>> My son threw me a curveball this evening. He wants to learn archery, and
>> said he might like to hunt. I explained to him that wild turkeys don't
>> taste as good as grocery store ones.
>
> True. Also, you can buy a fat, tasty turkey for about the same as a
> hunting licence and for sure less than bow and arrows too. He also
> might not like killing animals once he gets one. That's what stopped
> me from hunting.
> Target archery is very fun though. I used to do that often as a kid.
>
> Speaking of archery though, check this out. I have a relative that
> competes in archery contests. He actually makes a living off of prize
> money and sponsorships. He's my 1st cousin's grandson...so I'm related
> in some remote way. hehh
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Broadwater
>
> My mom sent me a newspaper about one contest he won in Europe. Boiled
> down to just him and some German archer so they did a final playoff to
> decide the winner. The showdown was...one arrow to a target at 100
> yards. The other guy went first and he hit the bullseye. Then my guy
> shot and he also hit the bullseye but dead center, so he won. I'm
> impressed. He was world champion compound bow archer that year.

I am not impressed: Robin Hood would have split the first archer's arrow.

MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>
> My son threw me a curveball this evening. He wants to learn archery, and
> said he might like to hunt. I explained to him that wild turkeys don't
> taste as good as grocery store ones.

True. Also, you can buy a fat, tasty turkey for about the same as a
hunting licence and for sure less than bow and arrows too. He also
might not like killing animals once he gets one. That's what stopped
me from hunting.
Target archery is very fun though. I used to do that often as a kid.

Speaking of archery though, check this out. I have a relative that
competes in archery contests. He actually makes a living off of prize
money and sponsorships. He's my 1st cousin's grandson...so I'm related
in some remote way. hehh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Broadwater

My mom sent me a newspaper about one contest he won in Europe. Boiled
down to just him and some German archer so they did a final playoff to
decide the winner. The showdown was...one arrow to a target at 100
yards. The other guy went first and he hit the bullseye. Then my guy
shot and he also hit the bullseye but dead center, so he won. I'm
impressed. He was world champion compound bow archer that year.

On 21/03/2016 9:55 AM, Gary wrote:
> MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>>
>> My son threw me a curveball this evening. He wants to learn archery, and
>> said he might like to hunt. I explained to him that wild turkeys don't
>> taste as good as grocery store ones.
>
> True. Also, you can buy a fat, tasty turkey for about the same as a
> hunting licence and for sure less than bow and arrows too. He also
> might not like killing animals once he gets one. That's what stopped
> me from hunting.
> Target archery is very fun though. I used to do that often as a kid.
>
> Speaking of archery though, check this out. I have a relative that
> competes in archery contests. He actually makes a living off of prize
> money and sponsorships. He's my 1st cousin's grandson...so I'm related
> in some remote way. hehh
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Broadwater
>
> My mom sent me a newspaper about one contest he won in Europe. Boiled
> down to just him and some German archer so they did a final playoff to
> decide the winner. The showdown was...one arrow to a target at 100
> yards. The other guy went first and he hit the bullseye. Then my guy
> shot and he also hit the bullseye but dead center, so he won. I'm
> impressed. He was world champion compound bow archer that year.
>
But could he have done it with a traditional longbow? I doubt it.

On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 5:59:15 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> On 21/03/2016 9:55 AM, Gary wrote:
> > MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> >>
> >> My son threw me a curveball this evening. He wants to learn archery, and
> >> said he might like to hunt. I explained to him that wild turkeys don't
> >> taste as good as grocery store ones.
> >
> > True. Also, you can buy a fat, tasty turkey for about the same as a
> > hunting licence and for sure less than bow and arrows too. He also
> > might not like killing animals once he gets one. That's what stopped
> > me from hunting.
> > Target archery is very fun though. I used to do that often as a kid.
> >
> > Speaking of archery though, check this out. I have a relative that
> > competes in archery contests. He actually makes a living off of prize
> > money and sponsorships. He's my 1st cousin's grandson...so I'm related
> > in some remote way. hehh
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Broadwater
> >
> > My mom sent me a newspaper about one contest he won in Europe. Boiled
> > down to just him and some German archer so they did a final playoff to
> > decide the winner. The showdown was...one arrow to a target at 100
> > yards. The other guy went first and he hit the bullseye. Then my guy
> > shot and he also hit the bullseye but dead center, so he won. I'm
> > impressed. He was world champion compound bow archer that year.
> >
> But could he have done it with a traditional longbow? I doubt it.

Maybe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 21/03/2016 9:55 AM, Gary wrote:
>> MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>>>
>>> My son threw me a curveball this evening. He wants to learn archery,
>>> and
>>> said he might like to hunt. I explained to him that wild turkeys don't
>>> taste as good as grocery store ones.
>>
>> True. Also, you can buy a fat, tasty turkey for about the same as a
>> hunting licence and for sure less than bow and arrows too. He also
>> might not like killing animals once he gets one. That's what stopped
>> me from hunting.
>> Target archery is very fun though. I used to do that often as a kid.
>>
>> Speaking of archery though, check this out. I have a relative that
>> competes in archery contests. He actually makes a living off of prize
>> money and sponsorships. He's my 1st cousin's grandson...so I'm related
>> in some remote way. hehh
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Broadwater
>>
>> My mom sent me a newspaper about one contest he won in Europe. Boiled
>> down to just him and some German archer so they did a final playoff to
>> decide the winner. The showdown was...one arrow to a target at 100
>> yards. The other guy went first and he hit the bullseye. Then my guy
>> shot and he also hit the bullseye but dead center, so he won. I'm
>> impressed. He was world champion compound bow archer that year.
>>
> But could he have done it with a traditional longbow? I doubt it.

My thoughts too. I used to belong to an archery club but most of us used
longbows. Compound bows take away all the strength needed to keep the bow
steady.

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On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 05:25:08 -0700 (PDT), MisterDiddyWahDiddy
> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 8:09:16 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:

>> Shooting your own turkeys could be cheap and isn't cheap your
>> favourite flavour?
>>
>Things that taste good are my favorite flavor, and I wouldn't shoot a
>turkey that wasn't going to get eaten. I would like you watch your ass
>bleed out, though I'd hope you'd provide a nice feast for the vultures.

I don't know what kind of English that is, but I understand enough to
know that you're a sick man. Narcisissm is the least of your problems.

--
Bruce

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I used to do archery but just for sport I think I will stick with the
>> shotgun for game
>
> Here's an old joke, Ophy.
>
> Two friends.
> Bill: Hey Mike, would you like to go hunting with me sometime?
> Mike: Sounds like fun, Bill. I'm game!
> So Bill shot him.


..... that is a terrible joke ...

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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> taxed and spent wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My son threw me a curveball this evening. He wants to learn archery,
>> >> and
>> >> said he might like to hunt. I explained to him that wild turkeys
>> >> don't
>> >> taste as good as grocery store ones.
>> >
>> > True. Also, you can buy a fat, tasty turkey for about the same as a
>> > hunting licence and for sure less than bow and arrows too. He also
>> > might not like killing animals once he gets one. That's what stopped
>> > me from hunting.
>> > Target archery is very fun though. I used to do that often as a kid.
>> >
>> > Speaking of archery though, check this out. I have a relative that
>> > competes in archery contests. He actually makes a living off of prize
>> > money and sponsorships. He's my 1st cousin's grandson...so I'm related
>> > in some remote way. hehh
>> >
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Broadwater
>> >
>> > My mom sent me a newspaper about one contest he won in Europe. Boiled
>> > down to just him and some German archer so they did a final playoff to
>> > decide the winner. The showdown was...one arrow to a target at 100
>> > yards. The other guy went first and he hit the bullseye. Then my guy
>> > shot and he also hit the bullseye but dead center, so he won. I'm
>> > impressed. He was world champion compound bow archer that year.
>>
>> I am not impressed: Robin Hood would have split the first archer's arrow.
>>
>
> If he had split the first archer's arrow, he wouldn't have hit dead
> center in the bullseye. The other archer's arrow was bullseye but off
> to the edge.

yeah, I know.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I used to do archery but just for sport I think I will stick with the
> shotgun for game

Here's an old joke, Ophy.

Two friends.
Bill: Hey Mike, would you like to go hunting with me sometime?
Mike: Sounds like fun, Bill. I'm game!
So Bill shot him.

taxed and spent wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> >>
> >> My son threw me a curveball this evening. He wants to learn archery, and
> >> said he might like to hunt. I explained to him that wild turkeys don't
> >> taste as good as grocery store ones.
> >
> > True. Also, you can buy a fat, tasty turkey for about the same as a
> > hunting licence and for sure less than bow and arrows too. He also
> > might not like killing animals once he gets one. That's what stopped
> > me from hunting.
> > Target archery is very fun though. I used to do that often as a kid.
> >
> > Speaking of archery though, check this out. I have a relative that
> > competes in archery contests. He actually makes a living off of prize
> > money and sponsorships. He's my 1st cousin's grandson...so I'm related
> > in some remote way. hehh
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Broadwater
> >
> > My mom sent me a newspaper about one contest he won in Europe. Boiled
> > down to just him and some German archer so they did a final playoff to
> > decide the winner. The showdown was...one arrow to a target at 100
> > yards. The other guy went first and he hit the bullseye. Then my guy
> > shot and he also hit the bullseye but dead center, so he won. I'm
> > impressed. He was world champion compound bow archer that year.
>
> I am not impressed: Robin Hood would have split the first archer's arrow.
>

If he had split the first archer's arrow, he wouldn't have hit dead
center in the bullseye. The other archer's arrow was bullseye but off
to the edge.

graham wrote:
>
> On 21/03/2016 9:55 AM, Gary wrote:
> > MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> >>
> >> My son threw me a curveball this evening. He wants to learn archery, and
> >> said he might like to hunt. I explained to him that wild turkeys don't
> >> taste as good as grocery store ones.
> >
> > True. Also, you can buy a fat, tasty turkey for about the same as a
> > hunting licence and for sure less than bow and arrows too. He also
> > might not like killing animals once he gets one. That's what stopped
> > me from hunting.
> > Target archery is very fun though. I used to do that often as a kid.
> >
> > Speaking of archery though, check this out. I have a relative that
> > competes in archery contests. He actually makes a living off of prize
> > money and sponsorships. He's my 1st cousin's grandson...so I'm related
> > in some remote way. hehh
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Broadwater
> >
> > My mom sent me a newspaper about one contest he won in Europe. Boiled
> > down to just him and some German archer so they did a final playoff to
> > decide the winner. The showdown was...one arrow to a target at 100
> > yards. The other guy went first and he hit the bullseye. Then my guy
> > shot and he also hit the bullseye but dead center, so he won. I'm
> > impressed. He was world champion compound bow archer that year.
> >
> But could he have done it with a traditional longbow? I doubt it.

Two different competitions. I used to use a longbow. It's harder as
the
tension is constant. You have to aim quicker and shoot.

On 3/21/2016 7:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 21/03/2016 9:55 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My son threw me a curveball this evening. He wants to learn
>>>> archery, and
>>>> said he might like to hunt. I explained to him that wild turkeys don't
>>>> taste as good as grocery store ones.
>>>
>>> True. Also, you can buy a fat, tasty turkey for about the same as a
>>> hunting licence and for sure less than bow and arrows too. He also
>>> might not like killing animals once he gets one. That's what stopped
>>> me from hunting.
>>> Target archery is very fun though. I used to do that often as a kid.
>>>
>>> Speaking of archery though, check this out. I have a relative that
>>> competes in archery contests. He actually makes a living off of prize
>>> money and sponsorships. He's my 1st cousin's grandson...so I'm related
>>> in some remote way. hehh
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Broadwater
>>>
>>> My mom sent me a newspaper about one contest he won in Europe. Boiled
>>> down to just him and some German archer so they did a final playoff to
>>> decide the winner. The showdown was...one arrow to a target at 100
>>> yards. The other guy went first and he hit the bullseye. Then my guy
>>> shot and he also hit the bullseye but dead center, so he won. I'm
>>> impressed. He was world champion compound bow archer that year.
>>>
>> But could he have done it with a traditional longbow? I doubt it.
>
> My thoughts too. I used to belong to an archery club but most of us
> used longbows. Compound bows take away all the strength needed to keep
> the bow steady.
>

Is there a more English weapon than the longbow? I think not. OTOH how
did the natives tribes of the Americas get their hands on the bow and
arrow? What's the deal with that?

On 3/21/2016 7:31 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 05:25:08 -0700 (PDT), MisterDiddyWahDiddy
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 8:09:16 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
>>> Shooting your own turkeys could be cheap and isn't cheap your
>>> favourite flavour?
>>>
>> Things that taste good are my favorite flavor, and I wouldn't shoot a
>> turkey that wasn't going to get eaten. I would like you watch your ass
>> bleed out, though I'd hope you'd provide a nice feast for the vultures.
>
> I don't know what kind of English that is, but I understand enough to
> know that you're a sick man. Narcisissm is the least of your problems.
>

The supporters of the Bern are a worrisome lot. This is not an isolated
case - unfortunately. My guess is that they're gonna **** things up.
That's the breaks.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/21/2016 7:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "graham" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 21/03/2016 9:55 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>> MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> My son threw me a curveball this evening. He wants to learn
>>>>> archery, and
>>>>> said he might like to hunt. I explained to him that wild turkeys
>>>>> don't
>>>>> taste as good as grocery store ones.
>>>>
>>>> True. Also, you can buy a fat, tasty turkey for about the same as a
>>>> hunting licence and for sure less than bow and arrows too. He also
>>>> might not like killing animals once he gets one. That's what stopped
>>>> me from hunting.
>>>> Target archery is very fun though. I used to do that often as a kid.
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of archery though, check this out. I have a relative that
>>>> competes in archery contests. He actually makes a living off of prize
>>>> money and sponsorships. He's my 1st cousin's grandson...so I'm related
>>>> in some remote way. hehh
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Broadwater
>>>>
>>>> My mom sent me a newspaper about one contest he won in Europe. Boiled
>>>> down to just him and some German archer so they did a final playoff to
>>>> decide the winner. The showdown was...one arrow to a target at 100
>>>> yards. The other guy went first and he hit the bullseye. Then my guy
>>>> shot and he also hit the bullseye but dead center, so he won. I'm
>>>> impressed. He was world champion compound bow archer that year.
>>>>
>>> But could he have done it with a traditional longbow? I doubt it.
>>
>> My thoughts too. I used to belong to an archery club but most of us
>> used longbows. Compound bows take away all the strength needed to keep
>> the bow steady.
>>
>
> Is there a more English weapon than the longbow? I think not. OTOH how did
> the natives tribes of the Americas get their hands on the bow and arrow?
> What's the deal with that?

No good asking me, m'dear! I think you might have to look at your own
history



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On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:43:00 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 3/21/2016 7:31 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 05:25:08 -0700 (PDT), MisterDiddyWahDiddy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Things that taste good are my favorite flavor, and I wouldn't shoot a
>>> turkey that wasn't going to get eaten. I would like you watch your ass
>>> bleed out, though I'd hope you'd provide a nice feast for the vultures.
>>
>> I don't know what kind of English that is, but I understand enough to
>> know that you're a sick man. Narcisissm is the least of your problems.
>>
>The supporters of the Bern are a worrisome lot. This is not an isolated
>case - unfortunately. My guess is that they're gonna **** things up.
>That's the breaks.

I think it's good that Sanders is doing so well. Maybe in 10 or 20
years someone like him will actually be elected. For a long time that
was unthinkable. Americans have a history of voting against the
interests of normal people and for the interests of rich people and
corporations.

Nevertheless, he has one very sick follower in Bryan.

--
Bruce

On 2016-03-21 5:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>> My thoughts too. I used to belong to an archery club but most of us
>> used longbows. Compound bows take away all the strength needed to keep
>> the bow steady.
>>
>
> Is there a more English weapon than the longbow? I think not. OTOH how
> did the natives tribes of the Americas get their hands on the bow and
> arrow? What's the deal with that?

The bow and arrow is common to most cultures. The English took it to a
new level with the long bow, and they were lucky enough to have access
to the yew tree whose wood is exceptionally suited for the purpose.

On 3/21/2016 11:44 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 3/21/2016 7:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "graham" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 21/03/2016 9:55 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>> MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My son threw me a curveball this evening. He wants to learn
>>>>>> archery, and
>>>>>> said he might like to hunt. I explained to him that wild turkeys
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> taste as good as grocery store ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> True. Also, you can buy a fat, tasty turkey for about the same as a
>>>>> hunting licence and for sure less than bow and arrows too. He also
>>>>> might not like killing animals once he gets one. That's what stopped
>>>>> me from hunting.
>>>>> Target archery is very fun though. I used to do that often as a kid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of archery though, check this out. I have a relative that
>>>>> competes in archery contests. He actually makes a living off of prize
>>>>> money and sponsorships. He's my 1st cousin's grandson...so I'm related
>>>>> in some remote way. hehh
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Broadwater
>>>>>
>>>>> My mom sent me a newspaper about one contest he won in Europe. Boiled
>>>>> down to just him and some German archer so they did a final playoff to
>>>>> decide the winner. The showdown was...one arrow to a target at 100
>>>>> yards. The other guy went first and he hit the bullseye. Then my guy
>>>>> shot and he also hit the bullseye but dead center, so he won. I'm
>>>>> impressed. He was world champion compound bow archer that year.
>>>>>
>>>> But could he have done it with a traditional longbow? I doubt it.
>>>
>>> My thoughts too. I used to belong to an archery club but most of us
>>> used longbows. Compound bows take away all the strength needed to keep
>>> the bow steady.
>>>
>>
>> Is there a more English weapon than the longbow? I think not. OTOH how
>> did the natives tribes of the Americas get their hands on the bow and
>> arrow? What's the deal with that?
>
> No good asking me, m'dear! I think you might have to look at your own
> history
>

It's not really my history. My guess is that the bow is such a basic and
obvious weapon that different cultures spontaneously came up with it
independently. I suppose that guess is as good as any but it's wholly
unsatisfying.

On 21/03/2016 4:01 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-03-21 5:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>> My thoughts too. I used to belong to an archery club but most of us
>>> used longbows. Compound bows take away all the strength needed to keep
>>> the bow steady.
>>>
>>
>> Is there a more English weapon than the longbow? I think not. OTOH how
>> did the natives tribes of the Americas get their hands on the bow and
>> arrow? What's the deal with that?
>
> The bow and arrow is common to most cultures. The English took it to a
> new level with the long bow, and they were lucky enough to have access
> to the yew tree whose wood is exceptionally suited for the purpose.

The pull on the war bow was such that the archers had to start training
at about 8 or 9 years old to develop the musculature.
Graham

On 3/21/2016 11:55 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:43:00 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 3/21/2016 7:31 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 05:25:08 -0700 (PDT), MisterDiddyWahDiddy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Things that taste good are my favorite flavor, and I wouldn't shoot a
>>>> turkey that wasn't going to get eaten. I would like you watch your ass
>>>> bleed out, though I'd hope you'd provide a nice feast for the vultures.
>>>
>>> I don't know what kind of English that is, but I understand enough to
>>> know that you're a sick man. Narcisissm is the least of your problems.
>>>
>> The supporters of the Bern are a worrisome lot. This is not an isolated
>> case - unfortunately. My guess is that they're gonna **** things up.
>> That's the breaks.
>
> I think it's good that Sanders is doing so well. Maybe in 10 or 20
> years someone like him will actually be elected. For a long time that
> was unthinkable. Americans have a history of voting against the
> interests of normal people and for the interests of rich people and
> corporations.

People will vote against their interests time after time. Why that is is
a mystery. My best guess is it's because people are stupid and gullible.
I don't believe it to be exclusively an American trait.

>
> Nevertheless, he has one very sick follower in Bryan.
>

On 3/21/2016 12:01 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-03-21 5:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>> My thoughts too. I used to belong to an archery club but most of us
>>> used longbows. Compound bows take away all the strength needed to keep
>>> the bow steady.
>>>
>>
>> Is there a more English weapon than the longbow? I think not. OTOH how
>> did the natives tribes of the Americas get their hands on the bow and
>> arrow? What's the deal with that?
>
> The bow and arrow is common to most cultures. The English took it to a
> new level with the long bow, and they were lucky enough to have access
> to the yew tree whose wood is exceptionally suited for the purpose.

I think the Japanese used a bow of laminated bamboo. It would be
interesting to see a yew vs bamboo construction shootout. I'm not
familiar with yew wood but bamboo is one heck of a wood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOINI7tfBIQ

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:18:47 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > The only time I tried wild duck, I didnt like it. I am sure some
> > purists will find that odd but i like the domestically raised sorts.
>
> Agree about that, I prefer farmed salmon too.

I prefer the idea of sustainable farmed. Salmon however may have issues
there?

Carol

--

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:52:54 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 3/21/2016 11:55 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:43:00 -1000, dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/21/2016 7:31 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> I don't know what kind of English that is, but I understand enough to
>>>> know that you're a sick man. Narcisissm is the least of your problems.
>>>>
>>> The supporters of the Bern are a worrisome lot. This is not an isolated
>>> case - unfortunately. My guess is that they're gonna **** things up.
>>> That's the breaks.
>>
>> I think it's good that Sanders is doing so well. Maybe in 10 or 20
>> years someone like him will actually be elected. For a long time that
>> was unthinkable. Americans have a history of voting against the
>> interests of normal people and for the interests of rich people and
>> corporations.
>
>People will vote against their interests time after time. Why that is is
>a mystery. My best guess is it's because people are stupid and gullible.
>I don't believe it to be exclusively an American trait.

I don't think so either, but they are very good at it.

--
Bruce

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 18:12:23 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:18:47 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >
> > > The only time I tried wild duck, I didnt like it. I am sure some
> > > purists will find that odd but i like the domestically raised sorts.
> >
> > Agree about that, I prefer farmed salmon too.
>
> I prefer the idea of sustainable farmed. Salmon however may have issues
> there?
>
I have certain issues with farmed, but I'd rather improve farming
practices than have wild populations over fished to the point of
extinction.

--

sf

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 18:12:23 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:18:47 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>> > The only time I tried wild duck, I didnt like it. I am sure some
>> > purists will find that odd but i like the domestically raised sorts.
>>
>> Agree about that, I prefer farmed salmon too.
>
>I prefer the idea of sustainable farmed. Salmon however may have issues
>there?
>
> Carol

They rarely raise farm salmon inland, instead they have nets offshore.
Salmon frequently escape and are free to spawn with natural born
salmon, so don't refer to farmed salmon as 'sustainable' - they
can/will likely be the end of wild, natural salmon.

On 3/21/2016 1:20 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:52:54 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 3/21/2016 11:55 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:43:00 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/21/2016 7:31 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> I don't know what kind of English that is, but I understand enough to
>>>>> know that you're a sick man. Narcisissm is the least of your problems.
>>>>>
>>>> The supporters of the Bern are a worrisome lot. This is not an isolated
>>>> case - unfortunately. My guess is that they're gonna **** things up.
>>>> That's the breaks.
>>>
>>> I think it's good that Sanders is doing so well. Maybe in 10 or 20
>>> years someone like him will actually be elected. For a long time that
>>> was unthinkable. Americans have a history of voting against the
>>> interests of normal people and for the interests of rich people and
>>> corporations.
>>
>> People will vote against their interests time after time. Why that is is
>> a mystery. My best guess is it's because people are stupid and gullible.
>> I don't believe it to be exclusively an American trait.
>
> I don't think so either, but they are very good at it.
>

We strive for excellence.

On 3/21/2016 7:51 PM, wrote:

> They rarely raise farm salmon inland, instead they have nets offshore.
> Salmon frequently escape and are free to spawn with natural born
> salmon, so don't refer to farmed salmon as 'sustainable' - they
> can/will likely be the end of wild, natural salmon.
>
Bruce Sandison is a well-known commentator on the subject of salmon farming.

<http://www.salmonfarmmonitor.org/problems.shtml>

Duck pot pie!

-- Larry

On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 5:41:20 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

> Is there a more English weapon than the longbow? I think not. OTOH how
> did the natives tribes of the Americas get their hands on the bow and
> arrow? What's the deal with that?

Wikipedia appears to be broken on your island.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_archery>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_archery>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gakgung>

Cindy Hamilton

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/21/2016 11:44 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 3/21/2016 7:04 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "graham" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 21/03/2016 9:55 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>>> MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My son threw me a curveball this evening. He wants to learn
>>>>>>> archery, and
>>>>>>> said he might like to hunt. I explained to him that wild turkeys
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> taste as good as grocery store ones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> True. Also, you can buy a fat, tasty turkey for about the same as a
>>>>>> hunting licence and for sure less than bow and arrows too. He also
>>>>>> might not like killing animals once he gets one. That's what stopped
>>>>>> me from hunting.
>>>>>> Target archery is very fun though. I used to do that often as a kid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Speaking of archery though, check this out. I have a relative that
>>>>>> competes in archery contests. He actually makes a living off of prize
>>>>>> money and sponsorships. He's my 1st cousin's grandson...so I'm
>>>>>> related
>>>>>> in some remote way. hehh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Broadwater
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My mom sent me a newspaper about one contest he won in Europe. Boiled
>>>>>> down to just him and some German archer so they did a final playoff
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> decide the winner. The showdown was...one arrow to a target at 100
>>>>>> yards. The other guy went first and he hit the bullseye. Then my guy
>>>>>> shot and he also hit the bullseye but dead center, so he won. I'm
>>>>>> impressed. He was world champion compound bow archer that year.
>>>>>>
>>>>> But could he have done it with a traditional longbow? I doubt it.
>>>>
>>>> My thoughts too. I used to belong to an archery club but most of us
>>>> used longbows. Compound bows take away all the strength needed to
>>>> keep
>>>> the bow steady.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is there a more English weapon than the longbow? I think not. OTOH how
>>> did the natives tribes of the Americas get their hands on the bow and
>>> arrow? What's the deal with that?
>>
>> No good asking me, m'dear! I think you might have to look at your own
>> history
>>
>
> It's not really my history. My guess is that the bow is such a basic and
> obvious weapon that different cultures spontaneously came up with it
> independently. I suppose that guess is as good as any but it's wholly
> unsatisfying.

Nevertheless, I think you are probably right

--
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On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 6:02:32 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> It's not really my history. My guess is that the bow is such a basic and
> obvious weapon that different cultures spontaneously came up with it
> independently. I suppose that guess is as good as any but it's wholly
> unsatisfying.

I don't think it's obvious, probably not as obvious as the wheel which is a comparatively modern invention. I suspect that it was invented at one place and spread throughout the world as man migrated.

It seems that the bow and arrow is everywhere except Australia. The aborigines reached Australia about 50,000 years ago. I suspect this predated the invention.

More archaeological evidence is needed to do more than speculate.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:29:35 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 3/21/2016 7:51 PM, wrote:
>
>> They rarely raise farm salmon inland, instead they have nets offshore.
>> Salmon frequently escape and are free to spawn with natural born
>> salmon, so don't refer to farmed salmon as 'sustainable' - they
>> can/will likely be the end of wild, natural salmon.
>>
>Bruce Sandison is a well-known commentator on the subject of salmon farming.
>
><http://www.salmonfarmmonitor.org/problems.shtml>

There were some salmon nets near our cottage some years ago and one
afternoon I went for a dive there - the bottom below and all around
look like a desert, no seaweed, no creatures, nothing.

If you compare wild with farmed salmon you can see the justification
of his comment that they are lazy and food is delivered to their
mouths - you can see the seams of fat in their flesh. When I
occasionally eat it, I cook slowly in the nuker, that way the seams of
fat tend to run off, but it just doesn't compare to the wild salmon
that has roamed the seas.

It's okay when they farm them inland, they don't escape and go out to
spawn with the wild and take the wild salmon all sorts of new
diseases. Rather like the Portuguese taking small pox to the Inca.
However, not many want to farm that way, too much trouble and too
little profit, lets pollute the sea instead!

On 2016-03-22 9:24 AM, wrote:
look like a desert, no seaweed, no creatures, nothing.
>
> If you compare wild with farmed salmon you can see the justification
> of his comment that they are lazy and food is delivered to their
> mouths - you can see the seams of fat in their flesh. When I
> occasionally eat it, I cook slowly in the nuker, that way the seams of
> fat tend to run off, but it just doesn't compare to the wild salmon
> that has roamed the seas.
>
> It's okay when they farm them inland, they don't escape and go out to
> spawn with the wild and take the wild salmon all sorts of new
> diseases. Rather like the Portuguese taking small pox to the Inca.
> However, not many want to farm that way, too much trouble and too
> little profit, lets pollute the sea instead!
>

That is an interesting interpretation of history. The Portuguese did not
take small pox to the Inca. It was the Spanish who conquered to Inca
empire. It was not really much of a fight because smallpox had preceded
them into the Inca empire, so there weren't many Inca left to fight them
off.

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 9:24:16 AM UTC-4, wrote:

> If you compare wild with farmed salmon you can see the justification
> of his comment that they are lazy and food is delivered to their
> mouths - you can see the seams of fat in their flesh. When I
> occasionally eat it, I cook slowly in the nuker, that way the seams of
> fat tend to run off, but it just doesn't compare to the wild salmon
> that has roamed the seas.

Which is why I like farmed salmon. Wild salmon tastes
too strong for me, and the fat in farmed salmon cooks
up beautifully on the grill.

To each their own, I say.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:36:46 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-03-22 9:24 AM, wrote:
>look like a desert, no seaweed, no creatures, nothing.
>>
>> If you compare wild with farmed salmon you can see the justification
>> of his comment that they are lazy and food is delivered to their
>> mouths - you can see the seams of fat in their flesh. When I
>> occasionally eat it, I cook slowly in the nuker, that way the seams of
>> fat tend to run off, but it just doesn't compare to the wild salmon
>> that has roamed the seas.
>>
>> It's okay when they farm them inland, they don't escape and go out to
>> spawn with the wild and take the wild salmon all sorts of new
>> diseases. Rather like the Portuguese taking small pox to the Inca.
>> However, not many want to farm that way, too much trouble and too
>> little profit, lets pollute the sea instead!
>>
>
>That is an interesting interpretation of history. The Portuguese did not
>take small pox to the Inca. It was the Spanish who conquered to Inca
>empire. It was not really much of a fight because smallpox had preceded
>them into the Inca empire, so there weren't many Inca left to fight them
>off.
>
>
OK so I was one country away!

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 06:41:50 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 9:24:16 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>
>> If you compare wild with farmed salmon you can see the justification
>> of his comment that they are lazy and food is delivered to their
>> mouths - you can see the seams of fat in their flesh. When I
>> occasionally eat it, I cook slowly in the nuker, that way the seams of
>> fat tend to run off, but it just doesn't compare to the wild salmon
>> that has roamed the seas.
>
>Which is why I like farmed salmon. Wild salmon tastes
>too strong for me, and the fat in farmed salmon cooks
>up beautifully on the grill.
>
>To each their own, I say.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Except that it will be bad to wipe out yet another species.

On 2016-03-22 9:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 9:24:16 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>
>> If you compare wild with farmed salmon you can see the justification
>> of his comment that they are lazy and food is delivered to their
>> mouths - you can see the seams of fat in their flesh. When I
>> occasionally eat it, I cook slowly in the nuker, that way the seams of
>> fat tend to run off, but it just doesn't compare to the wild salmon
>> that has roamed the seas.
>
> Which is why I like farmed salmon. Wild salmon tastes
> too strong for me, and the fat in farmed salmon cooks
> up beautifully on the grill.
>
> To each their own, I say.
>

Thank goodness there is the cheaper option that has other qualities that
a lot of people enjoy. I usually get farmed because it is so much more
affordable, but I prefer the wild stuff. When farmed salmon prices are
up and wild salmon prices are down I will get the wild.

On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 9:23:11 PM UTC-5, pltrgyst wrote:
> Duck pot pie!
>
I know I've mentioned this before, but although I've never had pot pie, I
have had pot brownies, and they tasted nasty.
>
> -- Larry

--Bryan

On 2016-03-22, > wrote:

> OK so I was one country away!

So is France and Germany.

nb

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:34:11 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2016-03-22 9:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 9:24:16 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>>
>>> If you compare wild with farmed salmon you can see the justification
>>> of his comment that they are lazy and food is delivered to their
>>> mouths - you can see the seams of fat in their flesh. When I
>>> occasionally eat it, I cook slowly in the nuker, that way the seams of
>>> fat tend to run off, but it just doesn't compare to the wild salmon
>>> that has roamed the seas.
>>
>> Which is why I like farmed salmon. Wild salmon tastes
>> too strong for me, and the fat in farmed salmon cooks
>> up beautifully on the grill.
>>
>> To each their own, I say.
>>
>
>Thank goodness there is the cheaper option that has other qualities that
>a lot of people enjoy. I usually get farmed because it is so much more
>affordable, but I prefer the wild stuff. When farmed salmon prices are
>up and wild salmon prices are down I will get the wild.
>
That won't happen but you can bet your bottom dollar that when salmon
farms have killed all the wild there will be a cheer and the salmon
farmers will promptly raise their prices.