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Cheryl wrote:
>Gary wrote:
>
>> on a sad note, my little one is not so well today. As i do things,
>> I'm holding her underneath my shirt next to my chest. This is the only
>> place that she seems happy. I so hate watching a loved one slowly die
>> day to day.

>
>I'm sorry to read this. Yes, it is very hard. I have an elder cat that
>seems to be laboring to breathe lately, not like asthma but like he's
>just tired. He never leaves my side anymore other than at night because
>I have to shut them out of my bedroom.


Why do You have to shut your cats out of your bedroom? My five house
cats can sleep wherever they want and mostly they sleep in bed with
me... they are very quiet and sleep through the night... I sleep
better with them.
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:50:36 -0500, Brooklyn1
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>Why do You have to shut your cats out of your bedroom? My five house
>cats can sleep wherever they want and mostly they sleep in bed with
>me... they are very quiet and sleep through the night... I sleep
>better with them.


I sleep *around* mine. It's *their* bed, apparently, so I get whatever
space is left.
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On 1/19/2016 8:50 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Cheryl wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>
>>> on a sad note, my little one is not so well today. As i do things,
>>> I'm holding her underneath my shirt next to my chest. This is the only
>>> place that she seems happy. I so hate watching a loved one slowly die
>>> day to day.

>>
>> I'm sorry to read this. Yes, it is very hard. I have an elder cat that
>> seems to be laboring to breathe lately, not like asthma but like he's
>> just tired. He never leaves my side anymore other than at night because
>> I have to shut them out of my bedroom.

>
> Why do You have to shut your cats out of your bedroom? My five house
> cats can sleep wherever they want and mostly they sleep in bed with
> me... they are very quiet and sleep through the night... I sleep
> better with them.
>

I do miss them but one has tummy issues (I only JUST figured out what
food is causing it!) and he would throw up on my bed while I was
sleeping. I love them dearly but I can't have that.

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On 1/14/2016 5:59 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On 15/1/2016 09:46 Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:12:04 +1100, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>>> No way it could walk. There is no way to raise a 9lb(4KG!)bird
>>> humanely, and certainly no way to do it humanely when it retails @
>>> 88c/lb.

>>
>> There are several breeds of chickens who's normal weight is 8-10
>> pounds.

>
> "Most chickens who end up on peoples dinner plates today grow so huge,
> so fast, that they can barely stand up. Many collapse under their own
> weight and spend much of their lives lying in their own waste, with
> open sores and wounds."
> http://truthaboutchicken.org/
>
> Don't click. It's an inconvenient truth.
>

I won't click. I also know they clobber off the beaks. If I weren't so
addicted to meat I'd be a vegetarian just because of the living
conditions. But I'm not going to be hypocritical and say I won't eat them.

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"Gary" > wrote in message ...

> on a sad note, my little one is not so well today. As i do things,
> I'm holding her underneath my shirt next to my chest. This is the only
> place that she seems happy. I so hate watching a loved one slowly die
> day to day.


I'm sorry to hear it Gary, it is just one of the most terrible things to go
through.

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> wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> >on a sad note, my little one is not so well today. As i do things,
>> >I'm holding her underneath my shirt next to my chest. This is the only
>> >place that she seems happy. I so hate watching a loved one slowly die
>> >day to day.

>>
>> Oh dear, maybe she is just having a bad day and will be back to
>> mischievious tomorrow, I sincerely hope so.

>
> Every single day lately she has good and bad times.
> No more mischievious fun times though for a long time.
> All she does for the past few months is eat, sleep, and poop.
>
> I'd say she's about 90-some in human years.
>
> It's to the point that every day, I expect her to die.
> Not a good feeling. But even though I'm not so religious,
> I do pray for her to keep on going. Even though it's so
> stressful to have her here, I'll choose that over death.
>
> No more loved ones for me. The loss always kills a part of me
> and I'm so tired of losing loved ones.
>
> Note: I'll bare my soul here....just writing all that above,
> I'm now all teary-eyed and choked up. dammit.
>
> She's not even dead yet and I'm already mourning the event
> because I see it coming.
>
> oh man!


I still get teary eyed over my Sophie and she's been gone for several years
now, no reason not to bare your soul when you love an animal that much. It's
very painful.

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> And soap. No one in their right mind would wash dishes *with soap* and
> attempt to "steam" foil wrapped fish in the dishwasher at the same time.
> I'm sure we can all agree on that.
>
> Jill


I can't imagine why anyone would bother, can you?

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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Gary wrote:
>>> >on a sad note, my little one is not so well today. As i do things,
>>> >I'm holding her underneath my shirt next to my chest. This is the only
>>> >place that she seems happy. I so hate watching a loved one slowly die
>>> >day to day.
>>>
>>> Oh dear, maybe she is just having a bad day and will be back to
>>> mischievious tomorrow, I sincerely hope so.

>>
>> Every single day lately she has good and bad times.
>> No more mischievious fun times though for a long time.
>> All she does for the past few months is eat, sleep, and poop.
>>
>> I'd say she's about 90-some in human years.
>>
>> It's to the point that every day, I expect her to die.
>> Not a good feeling. But even though I'm not so religious,
>> I do pray for her to keep on going. Even though it's so
>> stressful to have her here, I'll choose that over death.
>>
>> No more loved ones for me. The loss always kills a part of me
>> and I'm so tired of losing loved ones.
>>
>> Note: I'll bare my soul here....just writing all that above,
>> I'm now all teary-eyed and choked up. dammit.
>>
>> She's not even dead yet and I'm already mourning the event
>> because I see it coming.
>>
>> oh man!

>
> I still get teary eyed over my Sophie and she's been gone for several
> years now, no reason not to bare your soul when you love an animal that
> much. It's very painful.


Yes. I know exactly what you mean. I still haven't got over losing Bonnie
but Poppy helps.


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On 1/19/2016 8:59 PM, Je�us wrote:
> I sleep*around* mine. It's*their* bed, apparently, so I get whatever
> space is left.


I only have one cat but it's amazing how much room she can take up! I
like to sleep close to the edge so that one foot dangles off the side.
(I don't know why, other than perhaps to be able to quickly kick the
covers to the side if I get too warm.) Invariably I wind up somewhere
towards the middle of the bed.

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On 1/20/2016 12:52 AM, Cheri wrote:
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> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> And soap. No one in their right mind would wash dishes *with soap*
>> and attempt to "steam" foil wrapped fish in the dishwasher at the same
>> time. I'm sure we can all agree on that.
>>
>> Jill

>
> I can't imagine why anyone would bother, can you?
>
> Cheri


No, I can't. I've heard of it but it seems so silly (and a waste of
water!).

Jill


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jmcquown wrote:
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> On 1/19/2016 8:59 PM, Je�us wrote:
> > I sleep*around* mine. It's*their* bed, apparently, so I get whatever
> > space is left.

>
> I only have one cat but it's amazing how much room she can take up! I
> like to sleep close to the edge so that one foot dangles off the side.
> (I don't know why, other than perhaps to be able to quickly kick the
> covers to the side if I get too warm.)


Interesting. My daughter always did that too...just one foot out of
the covers.

The 9 years that I was married, wife hogged the (queen-sized) bed so I
learned to sleep on just the 1/3 end of bed. Now like 30 years later,
I still sleep on just the end 1/3 of the bed. And now the darn ferret
is sharing that same portion of bed with me. sigh.
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> On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:50:36 -0500, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
> >Why do You have to shut your cats out of your bedroom? My five house
> >cats can sleep wherever they want and mostly they sleep in bed with
> >me... they are very quiet and sleep through the night... I sleep
> >better with them.

>
> I sleep *around* mine. It's *their* bed, apparently, so I get whatever
> space is left.


LOL! So true too. Cat's really do own us and our belongings. They only
"allow" us to live where we do as long as we feed them.
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Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 1/19/2016 8:59 PM, Je�us wrote:
>>> I sleep*around* mine. It's*their* bed, apparently, so I get whatever
>>> space is left.

>>
>> I only have one cat but it's amazing how much room she can take up! I
>> like to sleep close to the edge so that one foot dangles off the side.
>> (I don't know why, other than perhaps to be able to quickly kick the
>> covers to the side if I get too warm.)

>
> Interesting. My daughter always did that too...just one foot out of
> the covers.
>
> The 9 years that I was married, wife hogged the (queen-sized) bed so I
> learned to sleep on just the 1/3 end of bed. Now like 30 years later,
> I still sleep on just the end 1/3 of the bed. And now the darn ferret
> is sharing that same portion of bed with me. sigh.
>


Well break the suspense, how IS Mia this AM?


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On 1/20/2016 9:37 AM, Gary wrote:
> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:50:36 -0500, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Why do You have to shut your cats out of your bedroom? My five house
>>> cats can sleep wherever they want and mostly they sleep in bed with
>>> me... they are very quiet and sleep through the night... I sleep
>>> better with them.

>>
>> I sleep *around* mine. It's *their* bed, apparently, so I get whatever
>> space is left.

>
> LOL! So true too. Cat's really do own us and our belongings. They only
> "allow" us to live where we do as long as we feed them.
>

That was very true of my cat Persia. She showed up at the back door of
my apartment in west TN and refused to leave. She just stood out there
yelling at me. When I finally relented she marched in like she owned
the place. She slept on the bed with me that very night and yes, she
was a bed hog.

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On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 21:47:23 -0500, Cheryl >
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>On 1/19/2016 8:50 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Cheryl wrote:
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> on a sad note, my little one is not so well today. As i do things,
>>>> I'm holding her underneath my shirt next to my chest. This is the only
>>>> place that she seems happy. I so hate watching a loved one slowly die
>>>> day to day.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry to read this. Yes, it is very hard. I have an elder cat that
>>> seems to be laboring to breathe lately, not like asthma but like he's
>>> just tired. He never leaves my side anymore other than at night because
>>> I have to shut them out of my bedroom.

>>
>> Why do You have to shut your cats out of your bedroom? My five house
>> cats can sleep wherever they want and mostly they sleep in bed with
>> me... they are very quiet and sleep through the night... I sleep
>> better with them.
>>

>I do miss them but one has tummy issues (I only JUST figured out what
>food is causing it!) and he would throw up on my bed while I was
>sleeping. I love them dearly but I can't have that.


Cats will occasionally hack up hairballs, especially when asleep, it's
like acid reflux... the Vet has cures for that... there are meds to
mix into their food but I mix a heaping Tbls of canned pumpkin in with
their canned food once a day, adds fiber to their diet, indoor cats
don't have access to fiber like outside cats do. Canned pumpkin is
inexpensive, cats love it, and it has no negative side effects. I
spoon out blobs on a non stick sheet pan and pop it in the freezer,
then the frozen pumpkin goes in zip-locs, take out how many you'll
need the night before, they will defrost over night in the fridge.
Cats tend to like yellow veggies, mine love yellow squash/pumpkin,
sweet potato, and cooked carrots... I think they like that it's sweet
(cat candy) I found canned pumpkin easiest to deal with, canned yams
works too... the fiber pushs the hair balls out the proper end so they
end up in the litter pan instead of all over your house, also much
less stress on the cat than all that gacking. Occasionally there'll
be an accident in bed at night but it's very rare... but living with
cats I've learned to always have paper towels within arms reach, when
a cat begins wretching grab a paper towel and lay it down by their
mouth to catch the throw up. I keep a stack of torn off paper towels
in my night stand, I wear tee shirts with pockets, always a few folded
paper towels in the pocket, in fact all my clothes with pockets
contain folded paper towels, tissues won't work... and I use paper
towels myself, much better than tissues, I haven't bought tissues fore
many years. I usually remember to remove the paper towels when doing
laundry but even if I miss a pocket paper towels don't dissolve into a
mess of lint like tissues. I think Bounty is the best, I like those
half sheets... Bounty is so good it can even go through a wash, dry,
and still be usable. Feed canned pumpkin, then your cats can sleep in
bed.


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On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 09:07:52 -0500, jmcquown >
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>On 1/19/2016 8:59 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> I sleep*around* mine. It's*their* bed, apparently, so I get whatever
>> space is left.

>
>I only have one cat but it's amazing how much room she can take up! I
>like to sleep close to the edge so that one foot dangles off the side.
>(I don't know why, other than perhaps to be able to quickly kick the
>covers to the side if I get too warm.) Invariably I wind up somewhere
>towards the middle of the bed.


I tend to stay on the right hand side and I sometimes do the one foot
out thing, it's an effective way to regulate your temperature as you
know
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 09:37:04 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:50:36 -0500, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Why do You have to shut your cats out of your bedroom? My five house
>> >cats can sleep wherever they want and mostly they sleep in bed with
>> >me... they are very quiet and sleep through the night... I sleep
>> >better with them.

>>
>> I sleep *around* mine. It's *their* bed, apparently, so I get whatever
>> space is left.

>
>LOL! So true too. Cat's really do own us and our belongings. They only
>"allow" us to live where we do as long as we feed them.


And the silly part is that I'm a willing participant
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On 1/20/2016 12:33 PM, Janet wrote:
> Long ago a Glasgow journalist wrote an account of her husband "cooking
> a salmon in the dishwasher" which he set out to prove was possible. It
> went something like this;
>
> Husband neglected to wrap the salmon in foil, puts a whole fish in the
> machine and turns it on. The program was so long the fish disintegrated
> and blocked the filter so the machine couldn't empty.
>
> He managed to open the door releasing a flood of water and bits of
> salmon into the kitchen. While he fetched the floor mop, the family dog
> gobbled as much salmon as possible; husband returns and shouts swearily
> at dog; dog runs up stairs, meeting someone rushing down to see what the
> shouting is about; dog turns round and vomits copiously down the stairs.
>
> Janet UK
>

Gee, that sounds like the smart and fun way to do things!

I don't steam fish nor do I poach fish. But I can assure you, if I did,
it would not be in the dishwasher.

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Cheri wrote:
>Gary wrote:
>
>> on a sad note, my little one is not so well today. As i do things,
>> I'm holding her underneath my shirt next to my chest. This is the only
>> place that she seems happy. I so hate watching a loved one slowly die
>> day to day.

>
>I'm sorry to hear it Gary, it is just one of the most terrible things to go
>through.


That's why I've learned to have several cats, it's still painful to
lose one and they are never forgotten but having the others eases the
pain much quicker. Also the others share the loss, they all miss
those that are gone, they often walk around looking and calling for
them. I's been three years and every day Peach walks arould like a
lost soul crying for her brother Blackie... then she settles down with
Jilly, her mommie. I always suggest people take at least two kittens
from the same litter.


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On 1/20/2016 11:45 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 21:47:23 -0500, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/19/2016 8:50 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> on a sad note, my little one is not so well today. As i do things,
>>>>> I'm holding her underneath my shirt next to my chest. This is the only
>>>>> place that she seems happy. I so hate watching a loved one slowly die
>>>>> day to day.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry to read this. Yes, it is very hard. I have an elder cat that
>>>> seems to be laboring to breathe lately, not like asthma but like he's
>>>> just tired. He never leaves my side anymore other than at night because
>>>> I have to shut them out of my bedroom.
>>>
>>> Why do You have to shut your cats out of your bedroom? My five house
>>> cats can sleep wherever they want and mostly they sleep in bed with
>>> me... they are very quiet and sleep through the night... I sleep
>>> better with them.
>>>

>> I do miss them but one has tummy issues (I only JUST figured out what
>> food is causing it!) and he would throw up on my bed while I was
>> sleeping. I love them dearly but I can't have that.

>
> Cats will occasionally hack up hairballs, especially when asleep, it's
> like acid reflux... the Vet has cures for that...


Cheryl stated she found the source, it was a particular brand of food.
Eliminate that, the problem will work itself out. I'm sure she knows
her cat better than you do.

> I mix a heaping Tbls of canned pumpkin in with
> their canned food once a day, adds fiber to their diet, indoor cats
> don't have access to fiber like outside cats do.

(snipped)

My cat Persia refused to eat canned pumpkin mixed in with anything.
Certainly not when she wasn't feeling well. If she had I'm sure I'd
have had some lovely orange barf on the carpet.

I can picture the cartoon balloon over her head as she sniffed the bowl:
"Why are you feeding me pumpkin?" LOL

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> I don't steam fish nor do I poach fish. But I can assure you, if I did,
> it would not be in the dishwasher.


it was dumb guess and I'm sure he never actually tried it.

I like my (sal****er fish) cooked simple.

Fillet the fish
Coat with thin layer of mayo (it melts right on and doesn't show)
Sprinkle with minced onion and then a squeeze of lemon

Broil just for a few minutes until fish turn opaque and onions are
browned.

Simple and YUM
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On 1/20/2016 1:11 PM, jmcquown wrote:
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> Cheryl stated she found the source, it was a particular brand of food.
> Eliminate that, the problem will work itself out. I'm sure she knows
> her cat better than you do.


True. He was throwing up mostly very digested food and sometimes foam. I
sleep soundly so I wouldn't wake up to him getting sick. I tried canned
pumpkin but he refused to eat it either plain or mixed with food. He's a
long haired cat, a Maine Coon so sometimes there was fur in it but for
the most part food. Actually I might go back to getting him lion cuts
just to eliminate the fur problems to his digestive system. He's also
hard to give furball stuff. Scarlett licks it off of my fingers
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On 1/19/2016 8:34 AM, wrote:
> Oh dear, maybe she is just having a bad day

David called, he's waiting for you in HELL and wonders why you're still
sucking air here and being a nasty, flinty ****!


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Gary wrote:
> Coat with thin layer of mayo (it melts right on and doesn't show)
> Sprinkle with minced onion and then a squeeze of lemon


Does Mia like that?
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On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 12:22:25 PM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > I don't steam fish nor do I poach fish. But I can assure you, if I did,
> > it would not be in the dishwasher.

>
> it was dumb guess and I'm sure he never actually tried it.
>
> I like my (sal****er fish) cooked simple.
>
> Fillet the fish
> Coat with thin layer of mayo (it melts right on and doesn't show)
> Sprinkle with minced onion and then a squeeze of lemon
>
> Broil just for a few minutes until fish turn opaque and onions are
> browned.
>
> Simple and YUM


All the talk of vomit was starting to gross me out, but your fish post
did what vomit alone could not.

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> All the talk of vomit was starting to gross me out, but


But then you gurgled up a pop tart back in your mouth and it was all
good again...
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> did what vomit alone could not.
>
> --Bryan


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