"Abiquiu" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2015-12-13 12:07 PM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>>> I use the side cutter and love it. I have the OXO brand.
>>>> https://flic.kr/p/8vVNvj
>>>> The curved line on top lines up with the can so you are always spot
>>>> on. It also has a little "beak" on the side, just open it up and lift
>>>> off the lid.
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps
>>>> koko
>>>
>>> If you think about it....kind of funny that someone would ask what
>>> kind of can opener should I use. LOL@
>>>
>>
>> Kind of funny that you find it entertaining to feed trolls here but
>> think it funny when a legitimate participant looks for advice that we
>> can expect not to be automatically rejected.
>>
>
> I like:
>
> https://www.oxo.com/products/prepari...dge-can-opener

But don't you get strings of glue?

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-12-13, koko > wrote:
>
>> I use the side cutter and love it. I have the OXO brand.
>
>> Hope that helps
>
> Thnx fer yer reply, but I won't buy OXO brand anything. Junk.

I don't like that brand either.

"Abiquiu" > wrote in message
...
> notbob wrote:
>> On 2015-12-13, koko > wrote:
>>
>>> I use the side cutter and love it. I have the OXO brand.
>>
>>> Hope that helps
>>
>> Thnx fer yer reply, but I won't buy OXO brand anything. Junk.
>>
>> nb
>>
>
> Nope, good stuff.

I have found them to be good for a few years and then the handles break
down. I won't buy unless I can't find another brand and I find something
for cheap.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 16:22:04 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>
>> Popeye used no opener to open cans of spinach.
>
> But Popeye had Olive Oyl.
>
Skiddle lee dee, Olive..

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> notbob wrote:
>>
>> On 2015-12-13, koko > wrote:
>>
>> > I use the side cutter and love it. I have the OXO brand.
>>
>> > Hope that helps
>>
>> Thnx fer yer reply, but I won't buy OXO brand anything. Junk.
>
> Like you say you've tried, I use a hand held swing-a-way opener. It's
> over 30 years old and still works fine.

How did you prevent it from getting rusty?

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Abiquiu" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2015-12-13 12:07 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I use the side cutter and love it. I have the OXO brand.
>>>>> https://flic.kr/p/8vVNvj
>>>>> The curved line on top lines up with the can so you are always spot
>>>>> on. It also has a little "beak" on the side, just open it up and lift
>>>>> off the lid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps
>>>>> koko
>>>>
>>>> If you think about it....kind of funny that someone would ask what
>>>> kind of can opener should I use. LOL@
>>>>
>>>
>>> Kind of funny that you find it entertaining to feed trolls here but
>>> think it funny when a legitimate participant looks for advice that we
>>> can expect not to be automatically rejected.
>>>
>>
>> I like:
>>
>> https://www.oxo.com/products/prepari...dge-can-opener
>>
>
> But don't you get strings of glue?


Not so far, and you?

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2015-12-13, koko > wrote:
>>
>>> I use the side cutter and love it. I have the OXO brand.
>>
>>> Hope that helps
>>
>> Thnx fer yer reply, but I won't buy OXO brand anything. Junk.
>
> I don't like that brand either.

It's one of the top 2, period.

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-12-13, > wrote:
>
>> Ditto - I bought it because it was easier for Davids arthritic hands -
>> I still use it - it still works well and must be around 30 years old
>> now.
>
> I did not know OXO had been around that long. Maybe their "30 yrs
> old" stuff is good, but their newer stuff is crap. I've already
> tossed all my OXO junk.
>
> nb

Yes. I think in the old days they were good. The first I heard of a
problem was when my dad sent his sister a bunch of the "Good Grips" things
as a gift. She complained bitterly about the handles. I told my dad that
mine were fine. Until they weren't. And that wasn't too many days after I
told him they were fine. What happened was that the utensil part began to
come loose from the handle part. Started with one and eventually every
single one did it, rendering them useless.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Abiquiu" > wrote in message
> ...
>> notbob wrote:
>>> On 2015-12-13, koko > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use the side cutter and love it. I have the OXO brand.
>>>
>>>> Hope that helps
>>>
>>> Thnx fer yer reply, but I won't buy OXO brand anything. Junk.
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>>
>> Nope, good stuff.
>
> I have found them to be good for a few years and then the handles break
> down.

Never happened to me in over a decade of use.

> I won't buy unless I can't find another brand and I find
> something for cheap.

Zylis.

Julie Bove wrote:
> What happened was that the utensil part began to come loose from the
> handle part. Started with one and eventually every single one did it,
> rendering them useless.

Did they spend time in your dishwasher?

That can de-glue handles if the heat cycle is left on.

"l not -l" > wrote in message
...
>
> On 13-Dec-2015, notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-12-13, > wrote:
>>
>> > Ditto - I bought it because it was easier for Davids arthritic hands -
>> > I still use it - it still works well and must be around 30 years old
>> > now.
>>
>> I did not know OXO had been around that long. Maybe their "30 yrs
>> old" stuff is good, but their newer stuff is crap. I've already
>> tossed all my OXO junk.
>>
>> nb
> Your experience is different than mine. I have never been dissatisfied
> with
> an OXO product and own several. I now look to OXO first, when I need
> anything that they make.

Not me. I buy a lot of my stuff at the dollar store now. It might break
but at least I only paid a dollar for it. Works fine for things like
serving spoons and pancake turners. Of course there are some utensils where
I want a higher quality or need a specific feature that you can't get with
the dollar store items.

"Abiquiu" > wrote in message
...
>l not -l wrote:
>> On 13-Dec-2015, notbob > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-12-13, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ditto - I bought it because it was easier for Davids arthritic hands -
>>>> I still use it - it still works well and must be around 30 years old
>>>> now.
>>>
>>> I did not know OXO had been around that long. Maybe their "30 yrs
>>> old" stuff is good, but their newer stuff is crap. I've already
>>> tossed all my OXO junk.
>>>
>>> nb
>> Your experience is different than mine. I have never been dissatisfied
>> with
>> an OXO product and own several. I now look to OXO first, when I need
>> anything that they make.
>>
>
> OXO and Zyliss are tops in all categories of small kitchen implements.

I like Zyliss but not OXO. Used to like OXO but not since the 90's. That's
when they went downhill.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 5:35:29 AM UTC-10, notbob wrote:
> I've tried 'em all. Mounted Swing-Aways, hand-held Swing-Aways,
> electric, hand, etc. I even hadda old style hand can opener that had
> both church key and bottle opener as part of the handles. But lately,
> I'm reduced to using a P38 style opener fer any kinda efficacy.
> Chinese-made swing-aways are useless. I've bought 2-3 from the local
> thrift store. Tossed 'em all.
>
> I'm starting to wonder if it is NOT the opener's fault, but the cans
> now being used. One old opener I had worked great on several cans, if
> not somewhat difficult to operate, it having a small butterfly handle.
> The handle is a direct connection to the notched wheel that turns the
> can. Well, I noticed on the last can I failed to open, the can seemed
> to be made of aluminum and the notched wheel jes chewed the rim up and
> did very little turning. This is true of the Chinese made
> Swing-Aways. The cutting wheel does indeed pierce the can lid, but
> the iffy notched drive wheel lets the cutting wheel ride up outta the
> pierced groove and I end up with two un-pierced (un-cut) sections of
> the lid. Soft metal on rims?? Perhaps.
>
> I tossed the old openers and dug out my only p38 style opener on the
> handle bottem of a pair of kitchen shears. Slow, but completes the
> job.
>
> I asked a non-cooking buddy what he and his lady-friend use. He
> related how they use a side-cutting (Zyliss, etc) opener with no
> problems. Izat what I need to buy? One of them newfangled
> side-cutting do-dads?
>
> nb

They ain't newfangled - I've been using side cutters for over 30 years. I
originally got them because I wanted a cutter that allowed me to make metal
containers with replaceable lids.

The trouble with regular can openers is that they allow too much play
between the cutter and drive gear i.e., they're too flimsy.

My favorite side cutter is shaped like a whale - it's operated by turning
the spout. It looks like a kid's toy but it's solidly built of ABS. I'm the
only one in the house that knows how to use it. It works 100% of the time.

I don't know if you should use one or not. The problem with these openers is
that the cutting wheel and pinch roller is hidden from view and some people
may find them too difficult to use. A lot of folks try these openers and
just give up - they don't want nuttin' to do with them. My wife hates my
whale opener. That's the breaks.

---

I remember getting a side cutter in the 70's. Hated it. Was given one as a
gift more recently and hated it too. I did find them difficult to use but I
hated the strings of glue that they left behind. Would stick to my hand or
get in the food.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 8:08:09 AM UTC-10, Janet B wrote:
>> On 13 Dec 2015 15:35:25 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>> >I've tried 'em all. Mounted Swing-Aways, hand-held Swing-Aways,
>> >electric, hand, etc. I even hadda old style hand can opener that had
>> >both church key and bottle opener as part of the handles. But lately,
>> >I'm reduced to using a P38 style opener fer any kinda efficacy.
>> >Chinese-made swing-aways are useless. I've bought 2-3 from the local
>> >thrift store. Tossed 'em all.
>> >
>> >I'm starting to wonder if it is NOT the opener's fault, but the cans
>> >now being used. One old opener I had worked great on several cans, if
>> >not somewhat difficult to operate, it having a small butterfly handle.
>> >The handle is a direct connection to the notched wheel that turns the
>> >can. Well, I noticed on the last can I failed to open, the can seemed
>> >to be made of aluminum and the notched wheel jes chewed the rim up and
>> >did very little turning. This is true of the Chinese made
>> >Swing-Aways. The cutting wheel does indeed pierce the can lid, but
>> >the iffy notched drive wheel lets the cutting wheel ride up outta the
>> >pierced groove and I end up with two un-pierced (un-cut) sections of
>> >the lid. Soft metal on rims?? Perhaps.
>> >
>> >I tossed the old openers and dug out my only p38 style opener on the
>> >handle bottem of a pair of kitchen shears. Slow, but completes the
>> >job.
>> >
>> >I asked a non-cooking buddy what he and his lady-friend use. He
>> >related how they use a side-cutting (Zyliss, etc) opener with no
>> >problems. Izat what I need to buy? One of them newfangled
>> >side-cutting do-dads?
>> >
>> >nb
>>
>> I like my side removal can opener. Some ( a very few) cans will be a
>> little more difficult to lift the lid when done . A couple of brand
>> names use a tougher "glue" to seal their cans. A second time around
>> the can fixes the problem. I tried many different can openers and
>> found that there were some problems as you indicate. I've had this
>> one for 3+ years now and I am content. It will open those super size
>> cans from the big box store. The lid never falls into the can.
>> Janet US
>
> I believe that most of these openers will have tiny pliers on them that
> you use to pry open the lid. It's important that one gets an opener with
> that has these pliers. People that use regular openers would never guess
> that there is a glue sealant in cans.

---

I was shocked when I first saw that.

On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 3:17:22 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Abiquiu" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2015-12-13 12:07 PM, Gary wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I use the side cutter and love it. I have the OXO brand.
> >>>> https://flic.kr/p/8vVNvj
> >>>> The curved line on top lines up with the can so you are always spot
> >>>> on. It also has a little "beak" on the side, just open it up and lift
> >>>> off the lid.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope that helps
> >>>> koko
> >>>
> >>> If you think about it....kind of funny that someone would ask what
> >>> kind of can opener should I use. LOL@
> >>>
> >>
> >> Kind of funny that you find it entertaining to feed trolls here but
> >> think it funny when a legitimate participant looks for advice that we
> >> can expect not to be automatically rejected.
> >>
> >
> > I like:
> >
> > https://www.oxo.com/products/prepari...dge-can-opener
>
> But don't you get strings of glue?

Mostly it acts as a sealant. It works on the same principle as the valve cover gaskets on a '52 Hudson Hornet. Most people are completely unaware of the existence of this material. It is as unexpected as if one had a colony of elves living under their bed.

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-12-13, Janet B > wrote:
>
>> A couple of brand names use a tougher "glue" to seal their cans.
>
> I'd like to see a cite on that. Last time I worked in a cannery,
> the lid-to-can seal was mechanical, not chemical.
>
> nb

There is what appears to be glue. Use a side cutter and you will see it.
Two or three long strings of gluey looking stuff. Gets on your hand and in
your food.

On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 3:25:34 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> ...
> On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 5:35:29 AM UTC-10, notbob wrote:
> > I've tried 'em all. Mounted Swing-Aways, hand-held Swing-Aways,
> > electric, hand, etc. I even hadda old style hand can opener that had
> > both church key and bottle opener as part of the handles. But lately,
> > I'm reduced to using a P38 style opener fer any kinda efficacy.
> > Chinese-made swing-aways are useless. I've bought 2-3 from the local
> > thrift store. Tossed 'em all.
> >
> > I'm starting to wonder if it is NOT the opener's fault, but the cans
> > now being used. One old opener I had worked great on several cans, if
> > not somewhat difficult to operate, it having a small butterfly handle.
> > The handle is a direct connection to the notched wheel that turns the
> > can. Well, I noticed on the last can I failed to open, the can seemed
> > to be made of aluminum and the notched wheel jes chewed the rim up and
> > did very little turning. This is true of the Chinese made
> > Swing-Aways. The cutting wheel does indeed pierce the can lid, but
> > the iffy notched drive wheel lets the cutting wheel ride up outta the
> > pierced groove and I end up with two un-pierced (un-cut) sections of
> > the lid. Soft metal on rims?? Perhaps.
> >
> > I tossed the old openers and dug out my only p38 style opener on the
> > handle bottem of a pair of kitchen shears. Slow, but completes the
> > job.
> >
> > I asked a non-cooking buddy what he and his lady-friend use. He
> > related how they use a side-cutting (Zyliss, etc) opener with no
> > problems. Izat what I need to buy? One of them newfangled
> > side-cutting do-dads?
> >
> > nb
>
> They ain't newfangled - I've been using side cutters for over 30 years. I
> originally got them because I wanted a cutter that allowed me to make metal
> containers with replaceable lids.
>
> The trouble with regular can openers is that they allow too much play
> between the cutter and drive gear i.e., they're too flimsy.
>
> My favorite side cutter is shaped like a whale - it's operated by turning
> the spout. It looks like a kid's toy but it's solidly built of ABS. I'm the
> only one in the house that knows how to use it. It works 100% of the time..
>
> I don't know if you should use one or not. The problem with these openers is
> that the cutting wheel and pinch roller is hidden from view and some people
> may find them too difficult to use. A lot of folks try these openers and
> just give up - they don't want nuttin' to do with them. My wife hates my
> whale opener. That's the breaks.
>
> ---
>
> I remember getting a side cutter in the 70's. Hated it. Was given one as a
> gift more recently and hated it too. I did find them difficult to use but I
> hated the strings of glue that they left behind. Would stick to my hand or
> get in the food.

My guess is that people that like tinkering will have an easier time with these openers because it helps to understand how these things work. An expertise in automobile mechanics helps a lot. My can opener uses an gear to set the cutting wheel. My recommendation is that people get the side cutter can opener with the lever action instead - those are easier to operate.

On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 3:28:14 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2015-12-13, Janet B > wrote:
> >
> >> A couple of brand names use a tougher "glue" to seal their cans.
> >
> > I'd like to see a cite on that. Last time I worked in a cannery,
> > the lid-to-can seal was mechanical, not chemical.
> >
> > nb
>
> There is what appears to be glue. Use a side cutter and you will see it.
> Two or three long strings of gluey looking stuff. Gets on your hand and in
> your food.

OTOH, the filthy top of the lid submerging into the food is some pretty bad news.

On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:42:40 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 3:28:14 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "notbob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 2015-12-13, Janet B > wrote:
>> >
>> >> A couple of brand names use a tougher "glue" to seal their cans.
>> >
>> > I'd like to see a cite on that. Last time I worked in a cannery,
>> > the lid-to-can seal was mechanical, not chemical.
>> >
>> > nb
>>
>> There is what appears to be glue. Use a side cutter and you will see it.
>> Two or three long strings of gluey looking stuff. Gets on your hand and in
>> your food.
>
>OTOH, the filthy top of the lid submerging into the food is some pretty bad news.

Normal people wash lids prior to opening cans, I always do... don't
yoose realize that warehouses have everything sprayed with heavy duty
insecticides...

dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 3:28:14 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "notbob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 2015-12-13, Janet B > wrote:
>>>
>>>> A couple of brand names use a tougher "glue" to seal their cans.
>>>
>>> I'd like to see a cite on that. Last time I worked in a cannery,
>>> the lid-to-can seal was mechanical, not chemical.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> There is what appears to be glue. Use a side cutter and you will see it.
>> Two or three long strings of gluey looking stuff. Gets on your hand and in
>> your food.
>
> OTOH, the filthy top of the lid submerging into the food is some pretty bad news.
>

Heh...unlesss it's CAT food....

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:42:40 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 3:28:14 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "notbob" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2015-12-13, Janet B > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A couple of brand names use a tougher "glue" to seal their cans.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to see a cite on that. Last time I worked in a cannery,
>>>> the lid-to-can seal was mechanical, not chemical.
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>
>>> There is what appears to be glue. Use a side cutter and you will see it.
>>> Two or three long strings of gluey looking stuff. Gets on your hand and in
>>> your food.
>>
>> OTOH, the filthy top of the lid submerging into the food is some pretty bad news.
>
> Normal people wash lids prior to opening cans, I always do... don't
> yoose realize that warehouses have everything sprayed with heavy duty
> insecticides...
>

Don't yoose realize that the cans are packed in sealed boxes or open
bottom one with plastic vaccu-wrap on top?

On 2015-12-13 20:00, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 16:22:04 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>
>> Popeye used no opener to open cans of spinach.
>
> But Popeye had Olive Oyl.
>
Reminds me of an old joke about Popeye, rust and olive oil.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> > If you think about it....kind of funny that someone would ask what
>> > kind of can opener should I use. LOL@
>> >
>>
>> Kind of funny that you find it entertaining to feed trolls here but
>> think it funny when a legitimate participant looks for advice that we
>> can expect not to be automatically rejected.
>
> I found the question to be funny, yes. I talk to everyone here, even
> you.

LOL

Cheri wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> Gary wrote:
>>> > If you think about it....kind of funny that someone would ask what
>>> > kind of can opener should I use. LOL@
>>> >
>>>
>>> Kind of funny that you find it entertaining to feed trolls here but
>>> think it funny when a legitimate participant looks for advice that we
>>> can expect not to be automatically rejected.
>>
>> I found the question to be funny, yes. I talk to everyone here, even
>> you.
>
> LOL


"...it's a lonely ol' night
custom made for two lonely people like me and you.."

heh!

On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 9:35:29 AM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
>
> I've tried 'em all. Mounted Swing-Aways, hand-held Swing-Aways,
> electric, hand, etc. I even hadda old style hand can opener that had
> both church key and bottle opener as part of the handles.
> Izat what I need to buy? One of them newfangled
> side-cutting do-dads?
>
> nb
>
>
Here's the one I have, it's a KitchenAid with no plastic
parts to split. I had a side cutter and liked it very
well until it died.

http://www.amazon.com/KitchenAid-Gou...er+with+magnet

On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:28:10 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2015-12-13, Janet B > wrote:
>>
>>> A couple of brand names use a tougher "glue" to seal their cans.
>>
>> I'd like to see a cite on that. Last time I worked in a cannery,
>> the lid-to-can seal was mechanical, not chemical.
>>
>> nb
>
>There is what appears to be glue. Use a side cutter and you will see it.
>Two or three long strings of gluey looking stuff. Gets on your hand and in
>your food.

Can't imagine how you got it stuck to your hands and in your food.
There just isn't that much of it.
Janet US

On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 3:53:29 PM UTC-10, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:42:40 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 3:28:14 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "notbob" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On 2015-12-13, Janet B > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> A couple of brand names use a tougher "glue" to seal their cans.
> >> >
> >> > I'd like to see a cite on that. Last time I worked in a cannery,
> >> > the lid-to-can seal was mechanical, not chemical.
> >> >
> >> > nb
> >>
> >> There is what appears to be glue. Use a side cutter and you will see it.
> >> Two or three long strings of gluey looking stuff. Gets on your hand and in
> >> your food.
> >
> >OTOH, the filthy top of the lid submerging into the food is some pretty bad news.
>
> Normal people wash lids prior to opening cans, I always do... don't
> yoose realize that warehouses have everything sprayed with heavy duty
> insecticides...

I don't need to wash no stinkin' lids - my can opener won't allow such a filthy thing to happen. And anyway, I wouldn't wash no cat food lid for no cat. Anything that might have landed/jumped/been dumped on it is going to be a lot healthier for pussy than the butts they're so fond of licking.

> wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 10:07:48 AM UTC-8, notbob wrote:
>> On 2015-12-13, koko > wrote:
>>
>> > I use the side cutter and love it. I have the OXO brand.
>>
>> > Hope that helps
>>
>> Thnx fer yer reply, but I won't buy OXO brand anything. Junk.
>>
>
> OXO is really hit or miss. I have a OXO potato peeler I like (blade
> in line with handle) but you can keep most of the rest of the product
> line.

I think my peelers are OXO. They are good but old.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> notbob wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> I've tried 'em all. Mounted Swing-Aways, hand-held Swing-Aways,
>> electric, hand, etc. I even hadda old style hand can opener that had
>> both church key and bottle opener as part of the handles. But lately,
>> I'm reduced to using a P38 style opener fer any kinda efficacy.
>> Chinese-made swing-aways are useless. I've bought 2-3 from the local
>> thrift store. Tossed 'em all.
>>
>> I'm starting to wonder if it is NOT the opener's fault, but the cans
>> now being used. One old opener I had worked great on several cans, if
>> not somewhat difficult to operate, it having a small butterfly handle.
>> The handle is a direct connection to the notched wheel that turns the
>> can. Well, I noticed on the last can I failed to open, the can seemed
>> to be made of aluminum and the notched wheel jes chewed the rim up and
>> did very little turning. This is true of the Chinese made
>> Swing-Aways. The cutting wheel does indeed pierce the can lid, but
>> the iffy notched drive wheel lets the cutting wheel ride up outta the
>> pierced groove and I end up with two un-pierced (un-cut) sections of
>> the lid. Soft metal on rims?? Perhaps.
>>
>> I tossed the old openers and dug out my only p38 style opener on the
>> handle bottem of a pair of kitchen shears. Slow, but completes the
>> job.
>>
>> I asked a non-cooking buddy what he and his lady-friend use. He
>> related how they use a side-cutting (Zyliss, etc) opener with no
>> problems. Izat what I need to buy? One of them newfangled
>> side-cutting do-dads?
>>
>> nb
>
> Demystify all your jargon here? Try the simple OXO hand type. Works
> well.

Didn't for me. And what is mystical about his jargon? Side cutting can
openers have been around since I was a teen.

> wrote in message
...
> Popeye used no opener to open cans of spinach.

There are videos on Facebook that show you how to open with no opener. You
basically rub the top very quickly over some rough cement.

"Abiquiu" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Abiquiu" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2015-12-13 12:07 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I use the side cutter and love it. I have the OXO brand.
>>>>>> https://flic.kr/p/8vVNvj
>>>>>> The curved line on top lines up with the can so you are always spot
>>>>>> on. It also has a little "beak" on the side, just open it up and lift
>>>>>> off the lid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope that helps
>>>>>> koko
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think about it....kind of funny that someone would ask what
>>>>> kind of can opener should I use. LOL@
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind of funny that you find it entertaining to feed trolls here but
>>>> think it funny when a legitimate participant looks for advice that we
>>>> can expect not to be automatically rejected.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I like:
>>>
>>> https://www.oxo.com/products/prepari...dge-can-opener
>>>
>>
>> But don't you get strings of glue?
>
>
> Not so far, and you?

Yes. So much that I won't use that kind.

"Abiquiu" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> What happened was that the utensil part began to come loose from the
>> handle part. Started with one and eventually every single one did it,
>> rendering them useless.
>
> Did they spend time in your dishwasher?
>
> That can de-glue handles if the heat cycle is left on.

Nope. I rarely use the dishwasher. Last time was probably 2-3 years ago.
And I don't put utensils in it.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 3:25:34 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message
> ...
> On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 5:35:29 AM UTC-10, notbob wrote:
> > I've tried 'em all. Mounted Swing-Aways, hand-held Swing-Aways,
> > electric, hand, etc. I even hadda old style hand can opener that had
> > both church key and bottle opener as part of the handles. But lately,
> > I'm reduced to using a P38 style opener fer any kinda efficacy.
> > Chinese-made swing-aways are useless. I've bought 2-3 from the local
> > thrift store. Tossed 'em all.
> >
> > I'm starting to wonder if it is NOT the opener's fault, but the cans
> > now being used. One old opener I had worked great on several cans, if
> > not somewhat difficult to operate, it having a small butterfly handle.
> > The handle is a direct connection to the notched wheel that turns the
> > can. Well, I noticed on the last can I failed to open, the can seemed
> > to be made of aluminum and the notched wheel jes chewed the rim up and
> > did very little turning. This is true of the Chinese made
> > Swing-Aways. The cutting wheel does indeed pierce the can lid, but
> > the iffy notched drive wheel lets the cutting wheel ride up outta the
> > pierced groove and I end up with two un-pierced (un-cut) sections of
> > the lid. Soft metal on rims?? Perhaps.
> >
> > I tossed the old openers and dug out my only p38 style opener on the
> > handle bottem of a pair of kitchen shears. Slow, but completes the
> > job.
> >
> > I asked a non-cooking buddy what he and his lady-friend use. He
> > related how they use a side-cutting (Zyliss, etc) opener with no
> > problems. Izat what I need to buy? One of them newfangled
> > side-cutting do-dads?
> >
> > nb
>
> They ain't newfangled - I've been using side cutters for over 30 years. I
> originally got them because I wanted a cutter that allowed me to make
> metal
> containers with replaceable lids.
>
> The trouble with regular can openers is that they allow too much play
> between the cutter and drive gear i.e., they're too flimsy.
>
> My favorite side cutter is shaped like a whale - it's operated by turning
> the spout. It looks like a kid's toy but it's solidly built of ABS. I'm
> the
> only one in the house that knows how to use it. It works 100% of the time.
>
> I don't know if you should use one or not. The problem with these openers
> is
> that the cutting wheel and pinch roller is hidden from view and some
> people
> may find them too difficult to use. A lot of folks try these openers and
> just give up - they don't want nuttin' to do with them. My wife hates my
> whale opener. That's the breaks.
>
> ---
>
> I remember getting a side cutter in the 70's. Hated it. Was given one as
> a
> gift more recently and hated it too. I did find them difficult to use but
> I
> hated the strings of glue that they left behind. Would stick to my hand
> or
> get in the food.

My guess is that people that like tinkering will have an easier time with
these openers because it helps to understand how these things work. An
expertise in automobile mechanics helps a lot. My can opener uses an gear to
set the cutting wheel. My recommendation is that people get the side cutter
can opener with the lever action instead - those are easier to operate.

---

I can never figure out how the electric ones work. I got one as a gift in
the 70's and hated it so much I got rid of it.

My husband has a tiny, military issue kind. I could never figure out how
that one worked.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 3:28:14 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "notbob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 2015-12-13, Janet B > wrote:
>> >
>> >> A couple of brand names use a tougher "glue" to seal their cans.
>> >
>> > I'd like to see a cite on that. Last time I worked in a cannery,
>> > the lid-to-can seal was mechanical, not chemical.
>> >
>> > nb
>>
>> There is what appears to be glue. Use a side cutter and you will see it.
>> Two or three long strings of gluey looking stuff. Gets on your hand and
>> in
>> your food.
>
> OTOH, the filthy top of the lid submerging into the food is some pretty
> bad news.

The tops of my cans are not filthy. Even so, I still rinse before use and
take care not to let the lid drop in.

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:28:10 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 2015-12-13, Janet B > wrote:
>>>
>>>> A couple of brand names use a tougher "glue" to seal their cans.
>>>
>>> I'd like to see a cite on that. Last time I worked in a cannery,
>>> the lid-to-can seal was mechanical, not chemical.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>>There is what appears to be glue. Use a side cutter and you will see it.
>>Two or three long strings of gluey looking stuff. Gets on your hand and
>>in
>>your food.
>
> Can't imagine how you got it stuck to your hands and in your food.
> There just isn't that much of it.
> Janet US

There was if my memory serves. 2 or 3 strings.

> wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 9:35:29 AM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
>>
>> I've tried 'em all. Mounted Swing-Aways, hand-held Swing-Aways,
>> electric, hand, etc. I even hadda old style hand can opener that had
>> both church key and bottle opener as part of the handles.
>> Izat what I need to buy? One of them newfangled
>> side-cutting do-dads?
>>
>> nb
>>
>>
> Here's the one I have, it's a KitchenAid with no plastic
> parts to split. I had a side cutter and liked it very
> well until it died.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/KitchenAid-Gou...er+with+magnet

Almost $50? Yow! No thanks.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> > If you think about it....kind of funny that someone would ask what
> > kind of can opener should I use. LOL@
>
> Why? Pretty sure most everyone had things in cans. Even the chefs on TV
> say that they sometimes use canned beans and probably most of us have canned
> olives. And then there is pet food.

My point there, Julie, was that we are all older here and to ask what
kind of a can opener should I use sounded like a funny question to me.
Good question for a 10-year old but old people here usually have that
answer figured out by now. Never hurts to ask for a different
"species" but it just struck me as funny at the moment.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> > Like you say you've tried, I use a hand held swing-a-way opener. It's
> > over 30 years old and still works fine.
>
> How did you prevent it from getting rusty?

Nothing special that I can think of. Each time I use it, I rinse it
off, at least. Wash it completely when doing dish washing.
Occasionally use an old toothbrush to get into the works.

Whenever I use it, I set it out onto a dishrack to dry vs putting it
right into a drawer.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > Popeye used no opener to open cans of spinach.
>
> There are videos on Facebook that show you how to open with no opener. You
> basically rub the top very quickly over some rough cement.

LOL... Knock yourself out on that one, Julie.
Let us know how that worked. Include pics. ;-)

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Nope. I rarely use the dishwasher. Last time was probably 2-3 years ago.

I don't wash dishes in my dishwasher either but if you want to keep it
in good shape, you should run it every couple of months at
least...just one fill, wash, drain.