On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:50:57 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 11/30/2015 1:46 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> As I said earlier, I don't remember making that recipe and as you may
>>> well
>>> remember I had a bad crash early last year and lost everything. I
>>> wonder if
>>> everybody remembers everything they made two years previously.
>>
>> I can't remember recipes and such for very long at all, there are so
>> many of them that sometimes I honestly can't remember if I've actually
>> made it, or just thought I would unless it is something that I've made
>> more than a time or two.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>Once I've tried something, if I know I'll likely make again I either jot
>down the recipe or print the recipe if I got it online. If I get it
>from a cookbook I mark the page.
>
>Jill

well, yes, of course. But I have them filed by name within course.
You're still a young whipper snapper, you're day will come
Janet US

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message

> I remember everything I've ever cooked, just don't remember everything
> I've ever posted... I know I've never posted a recipe for green bean
> casserole because I've never prepared one, or I'd definitely
> remember... I've eaten some and don't care for it.

Well, sure, if I only cooked a couple of times a year instead of just
posting fake food fantasies like you, I would remember too. LOL

Cheri

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:50:57 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 11/30/2015 1:46 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> As I said earlier, I don't remember making that recipe and as you may
>>>> well
>>>> remember I had a bad crash early last year and lost everything. I
>>>> wonder if
>>>> everybody remembers everything they made two years previously.
>>>
>>> I can't remember recipes and such for very long at all, there are so
>>> many of them that sometimes I honestly can't remember if I've actually
>>> made it, or just thought I would unless it is something that I've made
>>> more than a time or two.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>>Once I've tried something, if I know I'll likely make again I either jot
>>down the recipe or print the recipe if I got it online. If I get it
>>from a cookbook I mark the page.
>>
>>Jill
>
> well, yes, of course. But I have them filed by name within course.
> You're still a young whipper snapper, you're day will come

lol I used to have them filed very nicely ... on the computer!!

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/30/2015 1:46 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> As I said earlier, I don't remember making that recipe and as you may
>>> well
>>> remember I had a bad crash early last year and lost everything. I
>>> wonder if
>>> everybody remembers everything they made two years previously.
>>
>> I can't remember recipes and such for very long at all, there are so
>> many of them that sometimes I honestly can't remember if I've actually
>> made it, or just thought I would unless it is something that I've made
>> more than a time or two.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Once I've tried something, if I know I'll likely make again I either jot
> down the recipe or print the recipe if I got it online. If I get it from
> a cookbook I mark the page.

I do now!
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On 11/30/2015 2:59 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:50:57 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/30/2015 1:46 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> As I said earlier, I don't remember making that recipe and as you may
>>>> well
>>>> remember I had a bad crash early last year and lost everything. I
>>>> wonder if
>>>> everybody remembers everything they made two years previously.
>>>
>>> I can't remember recipes and such for very long at all, there are so
>>> many of them that sometimes I honestly can't remember if I've actually
>>> made it, or just thought I would unless it is something that I've made
>>> more than a time or two.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Once I've tried something, if I know I'll likely make again I either jot
>> down the recipe or print the recipe if I got it online. If I get it
>>from a cookbook I mark the page.
>>
>> Jill
>
> well, yes, of course. But I have them filed by name within course.
> You're still a young whipper snapper, you're day will come
> Janet US
>
Whipper snapper? LOL Why must I be old enough to appreciate
hand-written recipes in recipe boxes. I can't say I have cooked (or
ever will cook) everything I've found in those recipe boxes. Can't say
I'll cook my way through them, either. But they're fun to read.

Jill

On 30/11/2015 9:27 AM, Janet B wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 09:38:44 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> As I said earlier, I don't remember making that recipe and as you may
>>>> well
>>>> remember I had a bad crash early last year and lost everything. I wonder
>>>> if
>>>> everybody remembers everything they made two years previously. 2013!!!!
>>>> I
>>>> am sick of being jumped on for every little thing let alone having my old
>>>> posts regurgitated. How sick is that??? Nothing new though, it has
>>>> been going on for years, and then, others jump on the band wagon ...
>>>> juvenile mindless *******s. Pity they don't get a taste of it since they
>>>> think it is so clever.
>>>
>>> I can't remember recipes and such for very long at all, there are so many
>>> of them that sometimes I honestly can't remember if I've actually made it,
>>> or just thought I would unless it is something that I've made more than a
>>> time or two.
>>>
>>
>> If you are as lucky as I am, a very kind old lady will come along and repost
>> all your old posts to help you remember and them call you a liar for
>> forgetting!!!
>
> It's Be Kind to Old Ladies and Oldtimers Week (I just invented that
> because most of us qualify as members)
> Janet US
>
As I get older, my mind doesn`t just wander. Sometimes it buggers off
completely!
Graham

--
Deep within the heart of every evangelist lies the wreck of
a car salesman.
H.L. Mencken

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 20:28:43 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Janet B" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:50:57 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/30/2015 1:46 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> As I said earlier, I don't remember making that recipe and as you may
>>>>> well
>>>>> remember I had a bad crash early last year and lost everything. I
>>>>> wonder if
>>>>> everybody remembers everything they made two years previously.
>>>>
>>>> I can't remember recipes and such for very long at all, there are so
>>>> many of them that sometimes I honestly can't remember if I've actually
>>>> made it, or just thought I would unless it is something that I've made
>>>> more than a time or two.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>>Once I've tried something, if I know I'll likely make again I either jot
>>>down the recipe or print the recipe if I got it online. If I get it
>>>from a cookbook I mark the page.
>>>
>>>Jill
>>
>> well, yes, of course. But I have them filed by name within course.
>> You're still a young whipper snapper, you're day will come
>
>lol I used to have them filed very nicely ... on the computer!!

That's why you are supposed to do a backup once in a while
Janet US

Cheri wrote:
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>
>> I remember everything I've ever cooked, just don't remember everything
>> I've ever posted... I know I've never posted a recipe for green bean
>> casserole because I've never prepared one, or I'd definitely
>> remember... I've eaten some and don't care for it.
>
> Well, sure, if I only cooked a couple of times a year instead of just
> posting fake food fantasies like you, I would remember too. LOL
>
> Cheri

Hah!

Good one.

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 13:13:51 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >
> > Grin, enjoy! I'm now casting about for unique to me ideas for
> > leftover turkey.
> >
>
> Is this unique enough? You can stuff them with turkey.
> http://abc.go.com/shows/the-chew/rec...ng-croquettes-
> carla-hall

Good idea! Close to something we made.

Now to freeze the rest ;-)

Carol

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On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:51:49 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 30/11/2015 9:27 AM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 09:38:44 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> As I said earlier, I don't remember making that recipe and as you may
>>>>> well
>>>>> remember I had a bad crash early last year and lost everything. I wonder
>>>>> if
>>>>> everybody remembers everything they made two years previously. 2013!!!!
>>>>> I
>>>>> am sick of being jumped on for every little thing let alone having my old
>>>>> posts regurgitated. How sick is that??? Nothing new though, it has
>>>>> been going on for years, and then, others jump on the band wagon ...
>>>>> juvenile mindless *******s. Pity they don't get a taste of it since they
>>>>> think it is so clever.
>>>>
>>>> I can't remember recipes and such for very long at all, there are so many
>>>> of them that sometimes I honestly can't remember if I've actually made it,
>>>> or just thought I would unless it is something that I've made more than a
>>>> time or two.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you are as lucky as I am, a very kind old lady will come along and repost
>>> all your old posts to help you remember and them call you a liar for
>>> forgetting!!!
>>
>> It's Be Kind to Old Ladies and Oldtimers Week (I just invented that
>> because most of us qualify as members)
>> Janet US
>>
>As I get older, my mind doesn`t just wander. Sometimes it buggers off
>completely!
>Graham

Way to go!!!

Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 13:26:07 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
> snip
> >
> > Americans got used to the idea that Brie was strong and a bit
> > ammonia because by the time it shipped here and sold, thats how it
> > was. We can now get the best of both worlds with both types. I
> > like the strong ammonia ones mostly but also like the soft mild
> > ones.
> >
> > Carol
>
> You are stating the tastes of all Americans. Not a good idea. I
> never think of brie as ammonia. Perhaps you prefer your brie
> extremely ripe. I like mine smooth and creamy with a fresh sort of
> musty aroma to the rind.
> Janet US.

No I am not. I'm stating a taste of an older time when you couldnt get
the fresh stuff. Now you can get either one. Brie in the 30's and
40's here was quite strong tasting. It took a bit to get here.



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On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 16:26:57 -0700, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 20:28:43 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:50:57 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 11/30/2015 1:46 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> As I said earlier, I don't remember making that recipe and as you may
>>>>>> well
>>>>>> remember I had a bad crash early last year and lost everything. I
>>>>>> wonder if
>>>>>> everybody remembers everything they made two years previously.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't remember recipes and such for very long at all, there are so
>>>>> many of them that sometimes I honestly can't remember if I've actually
>>>>> made it, or just thought I would unless it is something that I've made
>>>>> more than a time or two.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>>Once I've tried something, if I know I'll likely make again I either jot
>>>>down the recipe or print the recipe if I got it online. If I get it
>>>>from a cookbook I mark the page.
>>>>
>>>>Jill
>>>
>>> well, yes, of course. But I have them filed by name within course.
>>> You're still a young whipper snapper, you're day will come
>>
>>lol I used to have them filed very nicely ... on the computer!!
>
>That's why you are supposed to do a backup once in a while
>Janet US

Too true, I have an external hd and try to remember to back up to it
every so often. I grew hyper about pics and have them on an external
that I keep at a friends place (my son suggested that if I had a fire
here when I was out an external hd wasn't much use) so I figure I have
the bases covered as far as is reasonably sane.

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 20:28:43 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:50:57 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 11/30/2015 1:46 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> As I said earlier, I don't remember making that recipe and as you may
>>>>>> well
>>>>>> remember I had a bad crash early last year and lost everything. I
>>>>>> wonder if
>>>>>> everybody remembers everything they made two years previously.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't remember recipes and such for very long at all, there are so
>>>>> many of them that sometimes I honestly can't remember if I've actually
>>>>> made it, or just thought I would unless it is something that I've made
>>>>> more than a time or two.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>>Once I've tried something, if I know I'll likely make again I either jot
>>>>down the recipe or print the recipe if I got it online. If I get it
>>>>from a cookbook I mark the page.
>>>>
>>>>Jill
>>>
>>> well, yes, of course. But I have them filed by name within course.
>>> You're still a young whipper snapper, you're day will come
>>
>>lol I used to have them filed very nicely ... on the computer!!
>
> That's why you are supposed to do a backup once in a while

Yers ... I know it. Remembering to do it is another matter ...

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Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Janet B" wrote:
> > That's why you are supposed to do a backup once in a while
>
> Yers ... I know it. Remembering to do it is another matter ...

Just lose some valuable thing ONCE and you'll learn to always back up
from then on.

My lesson came from the early 80's.

I wanted to do some computer program project. I finally decided to
make a computer verion of "Scrabble." At that time, there was no
computer version available. It was a fun challenge to me.

I spent about 9 hours and I got the "works" of the game done. Then I
was just doing window dressing. A tape backup took a long time and I
didn't bother so I kept on going with no backup. At about 2am, my
electricity flickered and it froze up the computer. I freaked.
Computer didn't work and only choice was to turn it off and start from
scratch again. I just stared at the screen for a long time.

I finally "bit the bullet", turned it off and rewrote the entire
program. It was still fresh in my mind so it only too a few hours but
I did learn my lesson.

Now, even when writing a long post or email, I save it as a draft
occasionally to be safe.

On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 10:44:30 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Janet B" wrote:
>> > That's why you are supposed to do a backup once in a while
>>
>> Yers ... I know it. Remembering to do it is another matter ...
>
>Just lose some valuable thing ONCE and you'll learn to always back up
>from then on.
>
>My lesson came from the early 80's.
>
>I wanted to do some computer program project. I finally decided to
>make a computer verion of "Scrabble." At that time, there was no
>computer version available. It was a fun challenge to me.
>
>I spent about 9 hours and I got the "works" of the game done. Then I
>was just doing window dressing. A tape backup took a long time and I
>didn't bother so I kept on going with no backup. At about 2am, my
>electricity flickered and it froze up the computer. I freaked.
>Computer didn't work and only choice was to turn it off and start from
>scratch again. I just stared at the screen for a long time.
>
>I finally "bit the bullet", turned it off and rewrote the entire
>program. It was still fresh in my mind so it only too a few hours but
>I did learn my lesson.
>
>Now, even when writing a long post or email, I save it as a draft
>occasionally to be safe.

I try to remember to back up every so often, makes good sense.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Janet B" wrote:
>> > That's why you are supposed to do a backup once in a while
>>
>> Yers ... I know it. Remembering to do it is another matter ...
>
> Just lose some valuable thing ONCE and you'll learn to always back up
> from then on.
>
> My lesson came from the early 80's.
>
> I wanted to do some computer program project. I finally decided to
> make a computer verion of "Scrabble." At that time, there was no
> computer version available. It was a fun challenge to me.
>
> I spent about 9 hours and I got the "works" of the game done. Then I
> was just doing window dressing. A tape backup took a long time and I
> didn't bother so I kept on going with no backup. At about 2am, my
> electricity flickered and it froze up the computer. I freaked.
> Computer didn't work and only choice was to turn it off and start from
> scratch again. I just stared at the screen for a long time.
>
> I finally "bit the bullet", turned it off and rewrote the entire
> program. It was still fresh in my mind so it only too a few hours but
> I did learn my lesson.
>
> Now, even when writing a long post or email, I save it as a draft
> occasionally to be safe.

Once I got my stuff together as I wanted it, I cloned the disc. Now it is
just a matter of backing up.

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On 2015-12-01 10:44 AM, Gary wrote:
>
> Just lose some valuable thing ONCE and you'll learn to always back up
> from then on.


How true that is. I was just cleaning out the drawers of my computer
desk and came across my external drive for backups. It is time to do a
fresh one. I had a serendipitous experience about years ago. I had
recently backed up my data files by copying all of them to both my
desktop and my laptop. A couple weeks later my laptop up and died on me.
I bought a new laptop and had everything I needed on the desktop so
once I got it up and running and loaded my applications I copied all my
data files to the new computer. A week or two later my desktop died. A
lot of the backup files were already on memory sticks and CDs.



>
> My lesson came from the early 80's.
>
> I wanted to do some computer program project. I finally decided to
> make a computer verion of "Scrabble." At that time, there was no
> computer version available. It was a fun challenge to me.
>
> I spent about 9 hours and I got the "works" of the game done. Then I
> was just doing window dressing. A tape backup took a long time and I
> didn't bother so I kept on going with no backup. At about 2am, my
> electricity flickered and it froze up the computer. I freaked.
> Computer didn't work and only choice was to turn it off and start from
> scratch again. I just stared at the screen for a long time.
>
> I finally "bit the bullet", turned it off and rewrote the entire
> program. It was still fresh in my mind so it only too a few hours but
> I did learn my lesson.
>
> Now, even when writing a long post or email, I save it as a draft
> occasionally to be safe.
>

On 12/1/2015 4:11 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>>
>> That's why you are supposed to do a backup once in a while
>
> Yers ... I know it. Remembering to do it is another matter ...
>

I am rather obsessive about backups. It only takes a few seconds, so I
save any file I am working on every few minutes; and I do a complete
backup of my files every few days (or every day if I have spent a great
deal of time working on something important). Actually, I don't use a
true backup program. Instead, I make copies of everything. That makes
it easy to use copy-and-paste to replace anything that might have been
lost. I also believe in redundancy, so I make multiple copies--I
alternate external hard disks every few times. I tell friends that "my
life" is on the computer, so I even have one disk that I store in my
safe deposit box. I only do that a couple of times a year, but it does
mean that I would not lose everything if something were to happen to my
house. When I was working, I kept that copy in my office, but now that
I am retired I keep it in the safe deposit box. I have friends who
called me for help when their computer crashed. They still haven't
learned, but at least they have the copy I made for them when we set up
their new computer.

MaryL

"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/1/2015 4:11 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That's why you are supposed to do a backup once in a while
>>
>> Yers ... I know it. Remembering to do it is another matter ...
>>
>
> I am rather obsessive about backups. It only takes a few seconds, so I
> save any file I am working on every few minutes; and I do a complete
> backup of my files every few days (or every day if I have spent a great
> deal of time working on something important). Actually, I don't use a
> true backup program. Instead, I make copies of everything. That makes it
> easy to use copy-and-paste to replace anything that might have been lost.
> I also believe in redundancy, so I make multiple copies--I alternate
> external hard disks every few times. I tell friends that "my life" is on
> the computer, so I even have one disk that I store in my safe deposit box.
> I only do that a couple of times a year, but it does mean that I would not
> lose everything if something were to happen to my house. When I was
> working, I kept that copy in my office, but now that I am retired I keep
> it in the safe deposit box. I have friends who called me for help when
> their computer crashed. They still haven't learned, but at least they
> have the copy I made for them when we set up their new computer.
>

Lucky friends)


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On 2015-12-01 11:19 AM, MaryL wrote:
>
> I am rather obsessive about backups. It only takes a few seconds, so I
> save any file I am working on every few minutes; and I do a complete
> backup of my files every few days (or every day if I have spent a great
> deal of time working on something important).

If you are doing it that often you can keep up with technology. In the
past I was more lax about backups. Perhaps I was disenchanted by backup
software that involved dozens of floppy disks and which turned out to be
great for making copies, but which were totally useless for restoring.
I learned it is easier and better to keep the installation software or
licence keys but to back up data files.


I am currently doing a major clean out in the house and came across a
bunch of floppy discs with backup files on 3-1/2 inch floppies, and I am
on my second desktop that does not even have a floppie drive. I don't
know if my next computer will even have a CD drive.


I also came across a cook book my wife's best friend gave us years ago.
She had compiled a bunch of her favourite recipes and stored the on
magnetic media..... 3-1/2 inch floppies.

On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 18:15:07 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-12-01 11:19 AM, MaryL wrote:
>>
>> I am rather obsessive about backups. It only takes a few seconds, so I
>> save any file I am working on every few minutes; and I do a complete
>> backup of my files every few days (or every day if I have spent a great
>> deal of time working on something important).
>
>If you are doing it that often you can keep up with technology. In the
>past I was more lax about backups. Perhaps I was disenchanted by backup
>software that involved dozens of floppy disks and which turned out to be
>great for making copies, but which were totally useless for restoring.
> I learned it is easier and better to keep the installation software or
>licence keys but to back up data files.
>
>
>I am currently doing a major clean out in the house and came across a
>bunch of floppy discs with backup files on 3-1/2 inch floppies, and I am
>on my second desktop that does not even have a floppie drive. I don't
>know if my next computer will even have a CD drive.
>
>
>I also came across a cook book my wife's best friend gave us years ago.
> She had compiled a bunch of her favourite recipes and stored the on
>magnetic media..... 3-1/2 inch floppies.
>
>
>
I wonder if there is such a thing as a floppy disk reader? I have a
whole box of them and often wonder what I thought was important enough
to save lol Didn't think ahead and put a label on them. One I know
is a recording of the stalking posts I received that gave birth to
Lucretia and a change of ISP.

On 01/12/2015 4:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-12-01 11:19 AM, MaryL wrote:
>>
>> I am rather obsessive about backups. It only takes a few seconds, so I
>> save any file I am working on every few minutes; and I do a complete
>> backup of my files every few days (or every day if I have spent a great
>> deal of time working on something important).
>
> If you are doing it that often you can keep up with technology. In the
> past I was more lax about backups. Perhaps I was disenchanted by backup
> software that involved dozens of floppy disks and which turned out to be
> great for making copies, but which were totally useless for restoring.
> I learned it is easier and better to keep the installation software or
> licence keys but to back up data files.
>
>
> I am currently doing a major clean out in the house and came across a
> bunch of floppy discs with backup files on 3-1/2 inch floppies, and I am
> on my second desktop that does not even have a floppie drive. I don't
> know if my next computer will even have a CD drive.
>
>
> I also came across a cook book my wife's best friend gave us years ago.
> She had compiled a bunch of her favourite recipes and stored the on
> magnetic media..... 3-1/2 inch floppies.
>
>
>
>
I have a lot of project data stored on 5.25" floppies - remember those?
I also still have a 486 machine in the basement to read them. However,
with the downturn in the oil industry, forced retirement looms (not that
I'm bothered) so I will soon destroy them.
Graham

--
Deep within the heart of every evangelist lies the wreck of
a car salesman.
H.L. Mencken

On 11/30/2015 3:01 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>
>> I remember everything I've ever cooked, just don't remember everything
>> I've ever posted... I know I've never posted a recipe for green bean
>> casserole because I've never prepared one, or I'd definitely
>> remember... I've eaten some and don't care for it.
>
> Well, sure, if I only cooked a couple of times a year instead of just
> posting fake food fantasies like you, I would remember too. LOL
>
> Cheri

Oh SNAP! lol

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Cheryl

On 11/30/2015 7:48 PM, wrote:

> Too true, I have an external hd and try to remember to back up to it
> every so often. I grew hyper about pics and have them on an external
> that I keep at a friends place (my son suggested that if I had a fire
> here when I was out an external hd wasn't much use) so I figure I have
> the bases covered as far as is reasonably sane.

I've had several computer failures over the years, but I can recover
data from a hard drive even if the computer itself has failed. In all
these years I've only had one occasion where I wasn't able to recover
the hard drive and had to hire a data restoration company to restore it
for me. Very expensive. I've learned my lesson and do backups once a
month so I might lose some things, but not everything. Also have a
firesafe now to keep the backup and other important stuff in and it only
set me back about $100, maybe a bit more. Well worth it because I've
been worried about that stuff for years. Like the only pictures I have
of my son, many which can't be reproduced.

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Cheryl

In article >,
wrote:

<sniperoo>

> I wonder if there is such a thing as a floppy disk reader? I have a
> whole box of them and often wonder what I thought was important enough
> to save lol Didn't think ahead and put a label on them. One I know
> is a recording of the stalking posts I received that gave birth to
> Lucretia and a change of ISP.

You mean floppy disk drive? You can find them for less than $20.00 (us
dollars at Wally World with USB). I've been holding onto one despite the
fact that I abandoned my 3.5 inch floppies about a decade or two ago.
Why do I keep it? Cause I'm a hoarder!

On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 21:26:39 -0500, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 11/30/2015 7:48 PM, wrote:
>
>> Too true, I have an external hd and try to remember to back up to it
>> every so often. I grew hyper about pics and have them on an external
>> that I keep at a friends place (my son suggested that if I had a fire
>> here when I was out an external hd wasn't much use) so I figure I have
>> the bases covered as far as is reasonably sane.
>
>I've had several computer failures over the years, but I can recover
>data from a hard drive even if the computer itself has failed. In all
>these years I've only had one occasion where I wasn't able to recover
>the hard drive and had to hire a data restoration company to restore it
>for me. Very expensive. I've learned my lesson and do backups once a
>month so I might lose some things, but not everything. Also have a
>firesafe now to keep the backup and other important stuff in and it only
>set me back about $100, maybe a bit more. Well worth it because I've
>been worried about that stuff for years. Like the only pictures I have
>of my son, many which can't be reproduced.

It's the pics that bother me most - at one stage I went through a
suitcase of old pics and pdf'd them and then did all the slides - very
time consuming and boring job so that's what I keep at my friends
place.

On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 22:40:43 -0600, Dave W >
wrote:

>In article >,
> wrote:
>
><sniperoo>
>
>> I wonder if there is such a thing as a floppy disk reader? I have a
>> whole box of them and often wonder what I thought was important enough
>> to save lol Didn't think ahead and put a label on them. One I know
>> is a recording of the stalking posts I received that gave birth to
>> Lucretia and a change of ISP.
>
>You mean floppy disk drive? You can find them for less than $20.00 (us
>dollars at Wally World with USB). I've been holding onto one despite the
>fact that I abandoned my 3.5 inch floppies about a decade or two ago.
>Why do I keep it? Cause I'm a hoarder!

I will have to check other places, will not ever shop at Wartmart

On 2015-12-01 9:04 PM, graham wrote:

>> I also came across a cook book my wife's best friend gave us years ago.
>> She had compiled a bunch of her favourite recipes and stored the on
>> magnetic media..... 3-1/2 inch floppies.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I have a lot of project data stored on 5.25" floppies - remember those?
> I also still have a 486 machine in the basement to read them. However,
> with the downturn in the oil industry, forced retirement looms (not that
> I'm bothered) so I will soon destroy them.


Another thing I came across was two unopened boxes of 5-1/4 floppies.
One box is single sided and the others are double sided. The price tag
on the latter is $3.99.

On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 1:15:10 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-12-01 11:19 AM, MaryL wrote:
> >
> > I am rather obsessive about backups. It only takes a few seconds, so I
> > save any file I am working on every few minutes; and I do a complete
> > backup of my files every few days (or every day if I have spent a great
> > deal of time working on something important).
>
> If you are doing it that often you can keep up with technology. In the
> past I was more lax about backups. Perhaps I was disenchanted by backup
> software that involved dozens of floppy disks and which turned out to be
> great for making copies, but which were totally useless for restoring.
> I learned it is easier and better to keep the installation software or
> licence keys but to back up data files.
>
>
> I am currently doing a major clean out in the house and came across a
> bunch of floppy discs with backup files on 3-1/2 inch floppies, and I am
> on my second desktop that does not even have a floppie drive. I don't
> know if my next computer will even have a CD drive.
>
>
> I also came across a cook book my wife's best friend gave us years ago.
> She had compiled a bunch of her favourite recipes and stored the on
> magnetic media..... 3-1/2 inch floppies.

My guess is that most of the data stored on magnetic/optical media will be lost/discarded. It's getting tough to find drives that will read these media. If you value your files your best bet for backup is USB drives and cloud storage. The best time to act is now.

On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 2:31:25 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 18:15:07 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2015-12-01 11:19 AM, MaryL wrote:
> >>
> >> I am rather obsessive about backups. It only takes a few seconds, so I
> >> save any file I am working on every few minutes; and I do a complete
> >> backup of my files every few days (or every day if I have spent a great
> >> deal of time working on something important).
> >
> >If you are doing it that often you can keep up with technology. In the
> >past I was more lax about backups. Perhaps I was disenchanted by backup
> >software that involved dozens of floppy disks and which turned out to be
> >great for making copies, but which were totally useless for restoring.
> > I learned it is easier and better to keep the installation software or
> >licence keys but to back up data files.
> >
> >
> >I am currently doing a major clean out in the house and came across a
> >bunch of floppy discs with backup files on 3-1/2 inch floppies, and I am
> >on my second desktop that does not even have a floppie drive. I don't
> >know if my next computer will even have a CD drive.
> >
> >
> >I also came across a cook book my wife's best friend gave us years ago.
> > She had compiled a bunch of her favourite recipes and stored the on
> >magnetic media..... 3-1/2 inch floppies.
> >
> >
> >
> I wonder if there is such a thing as a floppy disk reader? I have a
> whole box of them and often wonder what I thought was important enough
> to save lol Didn't think ahead and put a label on them. One I know
> is a recording of the stalking posts I received that gave birth to
> Lucretia and a change of ISP.

You can get a new 3.5" USB drive on eBay. The cost is typically, 12 bucks - shipping included.

dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 2:31:25 PM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 18:15:07 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-12-01 11:19 AM, MaryL wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am rather obsessive about backups. It only takes a few seconds, so I
>>>> save any file I am working on every few minutes; and I do a complete
>>>> backup of my files every few days (or every day if I have spent a great
>>>> deal of time working on something important).
>>>
>>> If you are doing it that often you can keep up with technology. In the
>>> past I was more lax about backups. Perhaps I was disenchanted by backup
>>> software that involved dozens of floppy disks and which turned out to be
>>> great for making copies, but which were totally useless for restoring.
>>> I learned it is easier and better to keep the installation software or
>>> licence keys but to back up data files.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am currently doing a major clean out in the house and came across a
>>> bunch of floppy discs with backup files on 3-1/2 inch floppies, and I am
>>> on my second desktop that does not even have a floppie drive. I don't
>>> know if my next computer will even have a CD drive.
>>>
>>>
>>> I also came across a cook book my wife's best friend gave us years ago.
>>> She had compiled a bunch of her favourite recipes and stored the on
>>> magnetic media..... 3-1/2 inch floppies.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I wonder if there is such a thing as a floppy disk reader? I have a
>> whole box of them and often wonder what I thought was important enough
>> to save lol Didn't think ahead and put a label on them. One I know
>> is a recording of the stalking posts I received that gave birth to
>> Lucretia and a change of ISP.
>
> You can get a new 3.5" USB drive on eBay. The cost is typically, 12 bucks - shipping included.
>
Even more fun, as retro-tech goes:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Iomega-Exter...AOSwcBhWWpF 7

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 9:45:17 AM UTC-10, el pedernal wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 2:31:25 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> >> On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 18:15:07 -0500, Dave Smith
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2015-12-01 11:19 AM, MaryL wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I am rather obsessive about backups. It only takes a few seconds, so I
> >>>> save any file I am working on every few minutes; and I do a complete
> >>>> backup of my files every few days (or every day if I have spent a great
> >>>> deal of time working on something important).
> >>>
> >>> If you are doing it that often you can keep up with technology. In the
> >>> past I was more lax about backups. Perhaps I was disenchanted by backup
> >>> software that involved dozens of floppy disks and which turned out to be
> >>> great for making copies, but which were totally useless for restoring..
> >>> I learned it is easier and better to keep the installation software or
> >>> licence keys but to back up data files.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am currently doing a major clean out in the house and came across a
> >>> bunch of floppy discs with backup files on 3-1/2 inch floppies, and I am
> >>> on my second desktop that does not even have a floppie drive. I don't
> >>> know if my next computer will even have a CD drive.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I also came across a cook book my wife's best friend gave us years ago.
> >>> She had compiled a bunch of her favourite recipes and stored the on
> >>> magnetic media..... 3-1/2 inch floppies.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I wonder if there is such a thing as a floppy disk reader? I have a
> >> whole box of them and often wonder what I thought was important enough
> >> to save lol Didn't think ahead and put a label on them. One I know
> >> is a recording of the stalking posts I received that gave birth to
> >> Lucretia and a change of ISP.
> >
> > You can get a new 3.5" USB drive on eBay. The cost is typically, 12 bucks - shipping included.
> >
> Even more fun, as retro-tech goes:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Iomega-Exter...AOSwcBhWWpF 7

When my father-in-law died, we hauled his boxes of tapes, floppies, and disks, to the dump. That 40 years of data took over his room until there was barely any room to move. My guess is you could put every file he had on a hard drive that costs less than a hundred bucks.

That's data storage for you - one man's precious archive is their descendant's pernicious ass pain.

dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 9:45:17 AM UTC-10, el pedernal wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 2:31:25 PM UTC-10, wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 18:15:07 -0500, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-12-01 11:19 AM, MaryL wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am rather obsessive about backups. It only takes a few seconds, so I
>>>>>> save any file I am working on every few minutes; and I do a complete
>>>>>> backup of my files every few days (or every day if I have spent a great
>>>>>> deal of time working on something important).
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are doing it that often you can keep up with technology. In the
>>>>> past I was more lax about backups. Perhaps I was disenchanted by backup
>>>>> software that involved dozens of floppy disks and which turned out to be
>>>>> great for making copies, but which were totally useless for restoring.
>>>>> I learned it is easier and better to keep the installation software or
>>>>> licence keys but to back up data files.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am currently doing a major clean out in the house and came across a
>>>>> bunch of floppy discs with backup files on 3-1/2 inch floppies, and I am
>>>>> on my second desktop that does not even have a floppie drive. I don't
>>>>> know if my next computer will even have a CD drive.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I also came across a cook book my wife's best friend gave us years ago.
>>>>> She had compiled a bunch of her favourite recipes and stored the on
>>>>> magnetic media..... 3-1/2 inch floppies.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I wonder if there is such a thing as a floppy disk reader? I have a
>>>> whole box of them and often wonder what I thought was important enough
>>>> to save lol Didn't think ahead and put a label on them. One I know
>>>> is a recording of the stalking posts I received that gave birth to
>>>> Lucretia and a change of ISP.
>>>
>>> You can get a new 3.5" USB drive on eBay. The cost is typically, 12 bucks - shipping included.
>>>
>> Even more fun, as retro-tech goes:
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Iomega-Exter...AOSwcBhWWpF 7
>
> When my father-in-law died, we hauled his boxes of tapes, floppies, and disks, to the dump. That 40 years of data took over his room until there was barely any room to move. My guess is you could put every file he had on a hard drive that costs less than a hundred bucks.
>
> That's data storage for you - one man's precious archive is their descendant's pernicious ass pain.

I hear that, mine hoarded magazines and newspapers, OMG they're heavy!

I bet these days everything will fit on a usb flash drive, one tiny
little package.

Gotta transfer and purge some old CD ROMs before all the media drive
bays are gone.

In article >,
wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 22:40:43 -0600, Dave W >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > wrote:
> >
> ><sniperoo>
> >
> >> I wonder if there is such a thing as a floppy disk reader? I have a
> >> whole box of them and often wonder what I thought was important enough
> >> to save lol Didn't think ahead and put a label on them. One I know
> >> is a recording of the stalking posts I received that gave birth to
> >> Lucretia and a change of ISP.
> >
> >You mean floppy disk drive? You can find them for less than $20.00 (us
> >dollars at Wally World with USB). I've been holding onto one despite the
> >fact that I abandoned my 3.5 inch floppies about a decade or two ago.
> >Why do I keep it? Cause I'm a hoarder!
>
> I will have to check other places, will not ever shop at Wartmart

Hey, I understand. Just thought that if they still sell them they are
probably widely available. Of course, I could be wrong.

And then there's always eBay! Looks like they're selling for 10 to 20
bucks there. New! From Hong Kong and other exotic locations!

Dave W.

On 2015-12-01 7:31 PM, wrote:

>> I also came across a cook book my wife's best friend gave us years ago.
>> She had compiled a bunch of her favourite recipes and stored the on
>> magnetic media..... 3-1/2 inch floppies.
>>
>>
>>
> I wonder if there is such a thing as a floppy disk reader?

Yes there is. It is called a floppy disc drive. There are still some
around. Most desktop computers have at least one empty bay that will
hold one.


> I have a
> whole box of them and often wonder what I thought was important enough
> to save lol Didn't think ahead and put a label on them. One I know
> is a recording of the stalking posts I received that gave birth to
> Lucretia and a change of ISP.
>

It might be worth getting a drive. They are dirt cheap and it is an easy
job to install one. There is likely a spare ribbon cable interface and
power plug inside. It takes a couple minutes to install. You just have
to disconnect the power cord, undo a a couple screws to remove the
cover, remove the cover on the empty bay, slip the disk drive in,
connect the ribbon cable and the power line. I would not
put too much faith in the files all still being there. Magnetic media is
not forever.

On 2015-12-02 3:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 9:45:17 AM UTC-10, el pedernal
> wrote:

> When my father-in-law died, we hauled his boxes of tapes, floppies,
> and disks, to the dump. That 40 years of data took over his room
> until there was barely any room to move. My guess is you could put
> every file he had on a hard drive that costs less than a hundred
> bucks.

When I got my first XT I was the envy of my computer geek friends with a
20 MB hard disc, which cost me $430 back then. These days you can buy a
much, much faster desktop computer with a TB HD for that price. I
just by a 64 gigabyte mini memory chip for my smart phone for $35.



> That's data storage for you - one man's precious archive is their
> descendant's pernicious ass pain.

Somewhere in the house I have a box of negatives of pictures my father
too in the UK during WW II. I should have had prints made of them years
ago when there were still photo shops everywhere.

Dave Smith wrote:
> It might be worth getting a drive. They are dirt cheap and it is an easy
> job to install one. There is likely a spare ribbon cable interface and
> power plug inside. It takes a couple minutes to install. You just have
> to disconnect the power cord, undo a a couple screws to

Dude.

An external USB drive is a lot cheaper and easier.

Dang.

On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 15:20:59 -0600, Dave W >
wrote:

>In article >,
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 22:40:43 -0600, Dave W >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >,
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> ><sniperoo>
>> >
>> >> I wonder if there is such a thing as a floppy disk reader? I have a
>> >> whole box of them and often wonder what I thought was important enough
>> >> to save lol Didn't think ahead and put a label on them. One I know
>> >> is a recording of the stalking posts I received that gave birth to
>> >> Lucretia and a change of ISP.
>> >
>> >You mean floppy disk drive? You can find them for less than $20.00 (us
>> >dollars at Wally World with USB). I've been holding onto one despite the
>> >fact that I abandoned my 3.5 inch floppies about a decade or two ago.
>> >Why do I keep it? Cause I'm a hoarder!
>>
>> I will have to check other places, will not ever shop at Wartmart
>
>Hey, I understand. Just thought that if they still sell them they are
>probably widely available. Of course, I could be wrong.
>
>And then there's always eBay! Looks like they're selling for 10 to 20
>bucks there. New! From Hong Kong and other exotic locations!
>
>Dave W.

I already checked Amazon - $14 - used $10 and will also try ebay -
anything but WM.

On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 17:33:38 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-12-01 7:31 PM, wrote:
>
>>> I also came across a cook book my wife's best friend gave us years ago.
>>> She had compiled a bunch of her favourite recipes and stored the on
>>> magnetic media..... 3-1/2 inch floppies.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I wonder if there is such a thing as a floppy disk reader?
>
>Yes there is. It is called a floppy disc drive. There are still some
>around. Most desktop computers have at least one empty bay that will
>hold one.
>
>
>> I have a
>> whole box of them and often wonder what I thought was important enough
>> to save lol Didn't think ahead and put a label on them. One I know
>> is a recording of the stalking posts I received that gave birth to
>> Lucretia and a change of ISP.
>>
>
>It might be worth getting a drive. They are dirt cheap and it is an easy
>job to install one. There is likely a spare ribbon cable interface and
>power plug inside. It takes a couple minutes to install. You just have
>to disconnect the power cord, undo a a couple screws to remove the
>cover, remove the cover on the empty bay, slip the disk drive in,
>connect the ribbon cable and the power line. I would not
>put too much faith in the files all still being there. Magnetic media is
>not forever.

The ones I looked at on Amazon didn't have to be installed, they had a
lead with a USB connector, just like an external HD.

On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 17:42:42 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-12-02 3:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 9:45:17 AM UTC-10, el pedernal
>> wrote:
>
>> When my father-in-law died, we hauled his boxes of tapes, floppies,
>> and disks, to the dump. That 40 years of data took over his room
>> until there was barely any room to move. My guess is you could put
>> every file he had on a hard drive that costs less than a hundred
>> bucks.
>
>When I got my first XT I was the envy of my computer geek friends with a
>20 MB hard disc, which cost me $430 back then. These days you can buy a
>much, much faster desktop computer with a TB HD for that price. I
>just by a 64 gigabyte mini memory chip for my smart phone for $35.
>
>
>
>> That's data storage for you - one man's precious archive is their
>> descendant's pernicious ass pain.
>
>Somewhere in the house I have a box of negatives of pictures my father
>too in the UK during WW II. I should have had prints made of them years
>ago when there were still photo shops everywhere.

There is a gizmo about $25 that allows you to put those on your
computer along with slides as well. Tedious, but effective.