Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
Do prices in your area bear this out?

Yeah, I know about the power used to roast etc - but I hate those flavors they add. Plus, I like the aroma which permeates the house when I roast a bird.

Kalmia wrote:

> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and
> roasting it. Do prices in your area bear this out?
>
> Yeah, I know about the power used to roast etc - but I hate those
> flavors they add. Plus, I like the aroma which permeates the house
> when I roast a bird.

depending upon grocer and if sale going on, the price of "whole,
roasted chicken" seems to be between $5.50 and $7.00. Weight might be
30 oz. including the bone.

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 8:04:36 AM UTC-7, Kalmia wrote:
> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
> Do prices in your area bear this out?
>
> Yeah, I know about the power used to roast etc - but I hate those flavors they add. Plus, I like the aroma which permeates the house when I roast a bird.

It depends on where you buy it. You can get a cheap one but those are the ones which are injected with flavors to mask cheaply raised and not that healthy chicken. Or you can pay a little more for a 'real' organic roasted chicken which is just that, no additional flavorings, etc.

Here I can find both kinds in the different stores. I find the organic one is a heavier bird with lots more meat and a better more juicy flavor. I think it is worth the extra dollar or two.

I buy it for convenience, rather than price.

Sqwertz wrote:
> I've never heard of a retail rotisserie


It's where we pay money to have you trussed, cooked, then fed to the
hogs, you unrepentant woman-stalking subhuman virus!



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Sqwertz wrote:
> What stores have organic, unadulterated rotisserie chickens?
>
> -sw
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:02:11 -0600, el pie de Onate >
wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
> > What stores have organic, unadulterated rotisserie chickens?
> >
> > -sw

He needs to get out more.

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sf wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:02:11 -0600, el pie de Onate >
> wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> What stores have organic, unadulterated rotisserie chickens?
>>>
>>> -sw
>
> He needs to get out more.

I think the city bus routes have him hamstrung between getting his
precious smokes at the Kwiki Mart and ghosting the aisles at HEB looking
for women to fondle...

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:50:47 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:02:11 -0600, el pie de Onate >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> What stores have organic, unadulterated rotisserie chickens?
>>
>> He needs to get out more.
>
> So in other words, you can't name any.

PWND!

LOLOLOL!!!!

> Just more ****y comments from
> RFC's second-most pathetic poster.

Wot, she ranks over Marty and behind YOU now?

> XOXO
>
> -sw



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On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:01:29 -0600, el pie de Onate >
wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:50:47 -0700, sf wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:02:11 -0600, el pie de Onate >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>> What stores have organic, unadulterated rotisserie chickens?
> >>
> >> He needs to get out more.
> >
> > So in other words, you can't name any.
>
> PWND!
>
> LOLOLOL!!!!
>
> > Just more ****y comments from
> > RFC's second-most pathetic poster.
>
> Wot, she ranks over Marty and behind YOU now?
>
> > XOXO
> >
> > -sw
>
>
Poor little Dumpling needs to clean his glasses.

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On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:59:39 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:36:30 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags wrote:
>
>> It depends on where you buy it. You can get a cheap one but those
>> are the ones which are injected with flavors to mask cheaply raised
>> and not that healthy chicken. Or you can pay a little more for
>> a 'real' organic roasted chicken which is just that, no additional
>> flavorings, etc.
>
>I've never heard of a retail rotisserie chicken that hasn't been
>injected/flavored. Even at Hole Foods (they're not even organic and
>still cost $10.99).
>
>What stores have organic, unadulterated rotisserie chickens?
>
>-sw

I haven't seen any birds like that here either. I would think they
would be kind of dry.
Janet US

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 11:30:33 AM UTC-7, Janet B wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:59:39 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:36:30 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags wrote:
> >
> >> It depends on where you buy it. You can get a cheap one but those
> >> are the ones which are injected with flavors to mask cheaply raised
> >> and not that healthy chicken. Or you can pay a little more for
> >> a 'real' organic roasted chicken which is just that, no additional
> >> flavorings, etc.
> >
> >I've never heard of a retail rotisserie chicken that hasn't been
> >injected/flavored. Even at Hole Foods (they're not even organic and
> >still cost $10.99).
> >
> >What stores have organic, unadulterated rotisserie chickens?
> >
> >-sw
>
> I haven't seen any birds like that here either. I would think they
> would be kind of dry.
> Janet US

I can get it locally here at one of our regional markets. They don't inject with flavorings and they are not dry.

>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:59:39 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:

>> >What stores have organic, unadulterated rotisserie chickens?

Our local Safeway used to have rotisserie cooked organic chickens @
$8.95 per. At least until they got their own "Natural" (but not
organic) brand chicken line rolled out. Haven't seen 'em of late.

nb

Sqwertz wrote:
> not "unenhanced" and unseasoned.
>
> -sw

Bugger off woman-stalker.

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Sqwertz wrote:
> Yeah, I don't think those things would sell well.


Too busy stalking women?


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On 2015-10-30 11:04 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
> Do prices in your area bear this out?
>
> Yeah, I know about the power used to roast etc - but I hate those flavors they add. Plus, I like the aroma which permeates the house when I roast a bird.
>
I don't know about cheaper than doing one yourself, but they way I
figure is that they are a quick, easy, and tasty meal and a pretty good
deal. I don't know about the the flavours they add when you get them,
but around it is is usually just salt and pepper and maybe paprika. I
like them.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:01:00 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>I don't know about cheaper than doing one yourself, but they way I
>figure is that they are a quick, easy, and tasty meal and a pretty good
>deal. I don't know about the the flavours they add when you get them,
>but around it is is usually just salt and pepper and maybe paprika. I
>like them.

I agree Dave! For $5 at Sam's Club you get a juicy rotisserie chicken
that's rather large. It says right on the container it was seasoned by
Lawry's. I think it is delicious!

William

William wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:01:00 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> I don't know about cheaper than doing one yourself, but they way I
>> figure is that they are a quick, easy, and tasty meal and a pretty good
>> deal. I don't know about the the flavours they add when you get them,
>> but around it is is usually just salt and pepper and maybe paprika. I
>> like them.
>
> I agree Dave! For $5 at Sam's Club you get a juicy rotisserie chicken
> that's rather large. It says right on the container it was seasoned by
> Lawry's. I think it is delicious!
>
> William
>
>
Ditto.

On 10/30/2015 11:04 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
> Do prices in your area bear this out?
>
> Yeah, I know about the power used to roast etc - but I hate those flavors they add.
> Plus, I like the aroma which permeates the house when I roast a bird.

All things being equal, it's a no-brainer to roast my own chicken.

For people who are really busy, the rotisserie chicken is as good
a shortcut as any, assuming it's a decent one. Depends where you are
buying it. Once in a while, it's just a convenience for me. I'm
there, a good looking rotisserie chicken is there, I'm going to get
it.

But if you have the time, prefer your own roasted chicken and
actually dislike the store bird, it's not even a contest.

nancy

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 5:04:36 AM UTC-10, Kalmia wrote:
> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
> Do prices in your area bear this out?
>
> Yeah, I know about the power used to roast etc - but I hate those flavors they add. Plus, I like the aroma which permeates the house when I roast a bird.

It certainly is true in my town. A cooked chicken at Costco costs 5 bucks. Buying a whole, raw, chicken at Safeway would be around 9 bucks. I could buy a roasted chicken at Safeway for around 9 bucks. If I can find a whole, raw, chicken for under 7 bucks, I'll get it. That doesn't happen very often. My guess is that some of Safeway's cooked chicken is expired chicken the didn't sell and if they don't sell, it's turned into chicken salad or soup.

In Costco's case, they're selling chicken, toilet paper, and cooked hot dogs, as loss leaders. It's what they're known for.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
> Do prices in your area bear this out?
>
> Yeah, I know about the power used to roast etc - but I hate those flavors they add. Plus, I like the aroma which permeates the house when I roast a bird.

Around here, they've adjusted what the rub it - I like the flavor now
and it's not too salty anymore, so either way is fine with me. If
hubby wants roast chicken for lunch, we pick up rotisserie chicken
while we're in the grocery store (it's never a special trip).
Otherwise, I do it myself. Cost is not an issue for me, convenience
is.


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sf

Kalmia wrote:
>
>Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
>Do prices in your area bear this out?
>
>Yeah, I know about the power used to roast etc - but I hate those flavors they add.

The few times I bought one they were *salty*, fatty, and small, not
much to eat on them, I could easily eat one and be wishing it were
larger. Around here Roasting chickens are under a dollar a pound... a
six pounder will feed four hungry adults and supply treats for six
cats.

I don't sorry about the energy for roasting because I'd plan to roast
more than just one stinkin' chicken, I might roast two chickens plus a
large lasagna or meat loaf... and I'd choose a cold winter day so it
would help heat my house... like tonight I roasted a five pound top
round, baked six large red potatoes, and a roasting pan filled with
all the last of the winter squash from my garden; acorn and
butternut... nothing fancy, filled the cavities with a pat of butter,
a tsp of dark brown sugar, and a few raisins... winter squash nukes
well. Left over baked red potatoes make a great spud salad. The
outside cats will enjoy the beef drippings mixed into their food
tomorrow morning... those guys are all doing fine, they're well cared
for... they'll let me give them a few pets now and two will step
inside for a minute. But they enjoy their freedom, they hunt all day
and night, that's what cats do... oh, and they sleep a lot, they love
the barn rafters for snoozing.

On 10/30/2015 11:04 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
> Do prices in your area bear this out?
>
> Yeah, I know about the power used to roast etc - but I hate those flavors they add. Plus, I like the aroma which permeates the house when I roast a bird.
>


They are more expensive to buy that do do your own, but that, for us, is
not a factor. We occasionally buy one for the convenience. More costly
than cooking your own, cheaper that going out to a restaurant.

We have spatchcocked chicken made on the grill. I do two at a time, eat
one and cut one in half and freeze the two halves separately as they
make a quick meal.

Kalmia wrote:
>
> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.

Yes, because that's how supermarkets recycle
the birds near their expiration date (after
a few rounds of repackaging with a new date).
They are often flavored to help cover this up.
They are generally safe to eat, so if you like
them go ahead and buy them.

By the way, outdated fresh red meat is often
recycled by coating it with a red spice rub
and labelling it as "BBQ marinated" or
something. The color and spice covers up
the changes that occur as the meat loses
its freshness.

On 10/31/2015 1:24 AM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> Kalmia wrote:
>>
>> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
>
> Yes, because that's how supermarkets recycle
> the birds near their expiration date (after
> a few rounds of repackaging with a new date).
> They are often flavored to help cover this up.
> They are generally safe to eat, so if you like
> them go ahead and buy them.

I've heard that story often, but I doubt it is true. The sheer number
of rotis birds outnumbers the fresh ones in the meat case. I've watched
them filling up the machine with Perdu birds of a consistent size.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 08:02:33 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 10/31/2015 1:24 AM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> > Kalmia wrote:
> >>
> >> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
> >
> > Yes, because that's how supermarkets recycle
> > the birds near their expiration date (after
> > a few rounds of repackaging with a new date).
> > They are often flavored to help cover this up.
> > They are generally safe to eat, so if you like
> > them go ahead and buy them.
>
> I've heard that story often, but I doubt it is true.

You mean the Sheldon spread BS?

> The sheer number
> of rotis birds outnumbers the fresh ones in the meat case. I've watched
> them filling up the machine with Perdu birds of a consistent size.

+1

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On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 8:02:36 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/31/2015 1:24 AM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> > Kalmia wrote:
> >>
> >> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
> >
> > Yes, because that's how supermarkets recycle
> > the birds near their expiration date (after
> > a few rounds of repackaging with a new date).
> > They are often flavored to help cover this up.
> > They are generally safe to eat, so if you like
> > them go ahead and buy them.
>
> I've heard that story often, but I doubt it is true. The sheer number
> of rotis birds outnumbers the fresh ones in the meat case. I've watched
> them filling up the machine with Perdu birds of a consistent size.

I don't often look at pre-cooked chickens, but I noticed once
that they were in clamshell packages that said either Perdue or
Tyson (whichever prepped them), and "rotisserie chicken". Why
have the packaging if they are using outdated birds?

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 2:02:36 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/31/2015 1:24 AM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> > Kalmia wrote:
> >>
> >> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
> >
> > Yes, because that's how supermarkets recycle
> > the birds near their expiration date (after
> > a few rounds of repackaging with a new date).
> > They are often flavored to help cover this up.
> > They are generally safe to eat, so if you like
> > them go ahead and buy them.
>
> I've heard that story often, but I doubt it is true. The sheer number
> of rotis birds outnumbers the fresh ones in the meat case. I've watched
> them filling up the machine with Perdu birds of a consistent size.

My guess is that the number of expired birds roasted and sold this way is not a big percentage. OTOH, selling chicken like this gives the store an advantage in that they can quickly rotate their stock and pull the raw birds from the case after a short time. OTOH, my guess is that the big chains already know how much chicken they can expect to sell and their rotisserie birds do not come to them packaged for retail sale raw. Anyway, selling rotisserie birds does give the supermarkets a lot of flexibility on selling chicken. It's a pretty clever idea.

Sqwertz wrote:
> grocery stores probably sell more rotisserie chickens
Bugger off woman-stalker.

Have you not grasped your reign of terror here is done?


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On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 21:24:02 -0800, Mark Thorson >
wrote:

>Kalmia wrote:
>>
>> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
>
>Yes, because that's how supermarkets recycle
>the birds near their expiration date.

Depends on the supermarket, most of the medium to smaller markets and
especially ethnic markets buy more than they can sell to get the
volume discount. What they can't sell prior to the expiration date
they use for rotisserie chicken but still most are sold to local
restaurants, Chinese take outs buy a lot of those chickens. The
markets typically conduct business with the restaurants at the loading
dock when they're not open for regular business. They do the same
with produce, Chinese take outs buy all the ready to spoil veggies
they can get. Who do yoose think buys most of the returned baked
goods from the factory outlet stores, local eateries. On Lung Guyland
I lived a short walk from the Entenmann's plant, they had a large
factory store there selling returns, most customers were local
restaurants... and a lot was donated to the local hospitals for the
write off. Who do yoose think buys most of what people here call
"used meat", local restaurants of course. Yoose would be amazed at
how little the big chain markets pay for groceries at the
wholesaler... a major portion of the price of food is transportation,
costs of transporting is kept low by sending huge semis to regional
warehouses. Small businesses can't take advantage of those incoming
bulk prices so they buy from the nether end. Supermarkets don't
really sell all that many rotisserie chickens, and they are a pain to
prepare and clean up afterwards, but most of their profit comes from
selling them at their deli department, the highest profit margin items
in the store... most rotisserie chicken buyers also buy a lot of other
deli items, especially salads, those have a huge mark up... and they
are mostly made from salvaged produce, rotted parts pared away.
Business isn't conducted in the make believe world the dwarf would
have yoose believe... it's the very rare patron who walks through the
entire market to get to the deli department and then wait for their
number to be called just to buy a stinkin' rotisserie chicken and
nothing else, and then walk the entire length of the store again to
wait at the check out just to pay their five bux for one lousy
chicken. I don't think anyone goes to a stupidmarket with even the
thought of purchasing a rotisserie chicken... people buy them because
they see and smell them, they're tired and haven't much time so figure
an easy dinner, it's a point of purchase item, the same as the rag
scandal papers at the checkout... most shoppers toss a lot of items
into their cart that they never thought to buy because it's displayed
as eye candy. I'm often tempted by those banks of twirling chickens
but then I've learned long ago I'd only be disappointed.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:52:48 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 21:24:02 -0800, Mark Thorson >
>wrote:
>
>>Kalmia wrote:
>>>
>>> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
>>
>>Yes, because that's how supermarkets recycle
>>the birds near their expiration date.
>
>Depends on the supermarket, most of the medium to smaller markets and
>especially ethnic markets buy more than they can sell to get the
>volume discount. What they can't sell prior to the expiration date
>they use for rotisserie chicken but still most are sold to local
>restaurants, Chinese take outs buy a lot of those chickens. The
>markets typically conduct business with the restaurants at the loading
>dock when they're not open for regular business. They do the same
>with produce, Chinese take outs buy all the ready to spoil veggies
>they can get. Who do yoose think buys most of the returned baked
>goods from the factory outlet stores, local eateries. On Lung Guyland
>I lived a short walk from the Entenmann's plant, they had a large
>factory store there selling returns, most customers were local
>restaurants... and a lot was donated to the local hospitals for the
>write off. Who do yoose think buys most of what people here call
>"used meat", local restaurants of course. Yoose would be amazed at
>how little the big chain markets pay for groceries at the
>wholesaler... a major portion of the price of food is transportation,
>costs of transporting is kept low by sending huge semis to regional
>warehouses. Small businesses can't take advantage of those incoming
>bulk prices so they buy from the nether end. Supermarkets don't
>really sell all that many rotisserie chickens, and they are a pain to
>prepare and clean up afterwards, but most of their profit comes from
>selling them at their deli department, the highest profit margin items
>in the store... most rotisserie chicken buyers also buy a lot of other
>deli items, especially salads, those have a huge mark up... and they
>are mostly made from salvaged produce, rotted parts pared away.
>Business isn't conducted in the make believe world the dwarf would
>have yoose believe... it's the very rare patron who walks through the
>entire market to get to the deli department and then wait for their
>number to be called just to buy a stinkin' rotisserie chicken and
>nothing else, and then walk the entire length of the store again to
>wait at the check out just to pay their five bux for one lousy
>chicken. I don't think anyone goes to a stupidmarket with even the
>thought of purchasing a rotisserie chicken... people buy them because
>they see and smell them, they're tired and haven't much time so figure
>an easy dinner, it's a point of purchase item, the same as the rag
>scandal papers at the checkout... most shoppers toss a lot of items
>into their cart that they never thought to buy because it's displayed
>as eye candy. I'm often tempted by those banks of twirling chickens
>but then I've learned long ago I'd only be disappointed.

that is a really big fairy tale. Who waits in line for their number
to be called? Throwaway produce in the salads? I do have to wait in
line at my local Cash and Carry. It takes a long time for the Chinese
restaurant people and the Mexican restaurant people to run their
overloaded flat carts through the cash register. It takes even longer
for them to load the purchases into their company truck. I'm glad I
don't live in a sleaze neighborhood like you have.
Janet US

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:54:14 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:52:48 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 21:24:02 -0800, Mark Thorson >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Kalmia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
>>>
>>>Yes, because that's how supermarkets recycle
>>>the birds near their expiration date.
>>
>>Depends on the supermarket, most of the medium to smaller markets and
>>especially ethnic markets buy more than they can sell to get the
>>volume discount. What they can't sell prior to the expiration date
>>they use for rotisserie chicken but still most are sold to local
>>restaurants, Chinese take outs buy a lot of those chickens. The
>>markets typically conduct business with the restaurants at the loading
>>dock when they're not open for regular business. They do the same
>>with produce, Chinese take outs buy all the ready to spoil veggies
>>they can get. Who do yoose think buys most of the returned baked
>>goods from the factory outlet stores, local eateries. On Lung Guyland
>>I lived a short walk from the Entenmann's plant, they had a large
>>factory store there selling returns, most customers were local
>>restaurants... and a lot was donated to the local hospitals for the
>>write off. Who do yoose think buys most of what people here call
>>"used meat", local restaurants of course. Yoose would be amazed at
>>how little the big chain markets pay for groceries at the
>>wholesaler... a major portion of the price of food is transportation,
>>costs of transporting is kept low by sending huge semis to regional
>>warehouses. Small businesses can't take advantage of those incoming
>>bulk prices so they buy from the nether end. Supermarkets don't
>>really sell all that many rotisserie chickens, and they are a pain to
>>prepare and clean up afterwards, but most of their profit comes from
>>selling them at their deli department, the highest profit margin items
>>in the store... most rotisserie chicken buyers also buy a lot of other
>>deli items, especially salads, those have a huge mark up... and they
>>are mostly made from salvaged produce, rotted parts pared away.
>>Business isn't conducted in the make believe world the dwarf would
>>have yoose believe... it's the very rare patron who walks through the
>>entire market to get to the deli department and then wait for their
>>number to be called just to buy a stinkin' rotisserie chicken and
>>nothing else, and then walk the entire length of the store again to
>>wait at the check out just to pay their five bux for one lousy
>>chicken. I don't think anyone goes to a stupidmarket with even the
>>thought of purchasing a rotisserie chicken... people buy them because
>>they see and smell them, they're tired and haven't much time so figure
>>an easy dinner, it's a point of purchase item, the same as the rag
>>scandal papers at the checkout... most shoppers toss a lot of items
>>into their cart that they never thought to buy because it's displayed
>>as eye candy. I'm often tempted by those banks of twirling chickens
>>but then I've learned long ago I'd only be disappointed.
>
>that is a really big fairy tale. Who waits in line for their number
>to be called? Throwaway produce in the salads? I do have to wait in
>line at my local Cash and Carry. It takes a long time for the Chinese
>restaurant people and the Mexican restaurant people to run their
>overloaded flat carts through the cash register. It takes even longer
>for them to load the purchases into their company truck. I'm glad I
>don't live in a sleaze neighborhood like you have.
>Janet US

If you've seen all those Chinese with flat carts than it's you who
lives in a sleaze hood, or you're awake very early and hanging out
under the cover of darkness at the back of the markets.

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 3:52:56 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 21:24:02 -0800, Mark Thorson >
> wrote:
>
> >Kalmia wrote:
> >>
> >> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
> >
> >Yes, because that's how supermarkets recycle
> >the birds near their expiration date.
>
> Depends on the supermarket, most of the medium to smaller markets and
> especially ethnic markets buy more than they can sell to get the
> volume discount. What they can't sell prior to the expiration date
> they use for rotisserie chicken but still most are sold to local
> restaurants, Chinese take outs buy a lot of those chickens. The
> markets typically conduct business with the restaurants at the loading
> dock when they're not open for regular business. They do the same
> with produce, Chinese take outs buy all the ready to spoil veggies
> they can get. Who do yoose think buys most of the returned baked
> goods from the factory outlet stores, local eateries. On Lung Guyland
> I lived a short walk from the Entenmann's plant, they had a large
> factory store there selling returns, most customers were local
> restaurants... and a lot was donated to the local hospitals for the
> write off. Who do yoose think buys most of what people here call
> "used meat", local restaurants of course. Yoose would be amazed at
> how little the big chain markets pay for groceries at the
> wholesaler... a major portion of the price of food is transportation,
> costs of transporting is kept low by sending huge semis to regional
> warehouses. Small businesses can't take advantage of those incoming
> bulk prices so they buy from the nether end. Supermarkets don't
> really sell all that many rotisserie chickens, and they are a pain to
> prepare and clean up afterwards, but most of their profit comes from
> selling them at their deli department, the highest profit margin items
> in the store... most rotisserie chicken buyers also buy a lot of other
> deli items, especially salads, those have a huge mark up... and they
> are mostly made from salvaged produce, rotted parts pared away.
> Business isn't conducted in the make believe world the dwarf would
> have yoose believe... it's the very rare patron who walks through the
> entire market to get to the deli department and then wait for their
> number to be called just to buy a stinkin' rotisserie chicken and
> nothing else, and then walk the entire length of the store again to
> wait at the check out just to pay their five bux for one lousy
> chicken. I don't think anyone goes to a stupidmarket with even the
> thought of purchasing a rotisserie chicken... people buy them because
> they see and smell them, they're tired and haven't much time so figure
> an easy dinner, it's a point of purchase item, the same as the rag
> scandal papers at the checkout... most shoppers toss a lot of items
> into their cart that they never thought to buy because it's displayed
> as eye candy. I'm often tempted by those banks of twirling chickens
> but then I've learned long ago I'd only be disappointed.

Confession; I HAVE made a special stop for a rotiss chicken when I've been unexpectedly tied up all day and pooped ( about twice a year this happens.) They are right near the register under hot lamps. No take a number or wait necessary. That said, I think I can still roast a chicken a lot cheaper if I am forewarned and forearmed. The rotiss goes for about 7.99 and I surely can buy a roaster a lot cheaper.

On 2015-11-01 4:37 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 3:52:56 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
.. I'm often tempted by those banks of twirling chickens
>> but then I've learned long ago I'd only be disappointed.
>
> Confession; I HAVE made a special stop for a rotiss chicken when I've
> been unexpectedly tied up all day and pooped ( about twice a year
> this happens.) They are right near the register under hot lamps. No
> take a number or wait necessary. That said, I think I can still
> roast a chicken a lot cheaper if I am forewarned and forearmed. The
> rotiss goes for about 7.99 and I surely can buy a roaster a lot
> cheaper.

Prices vary from one place to another and one store to another. I just
put a small chicken in the oven. It was almost $8 for the bird. I would
consider it a small prices to pay for a chicken that is cooked and ready
to go. I don't see myself making a special trip to the store just to
buy one, but I most certainly have had times where we were running late
and stopped at a grocery store on the way home and picked one up.... and
it was quite tasty.

Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2015-11-01 4:37 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 3:52:56 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> . I'm often tempted by those banks of twirling chickens
> > > but then I've learned long ago I'd only be disappointed.
> >
> > Confession; I HAVE made a special stop for a rotiss chicken when
> > I've been unexpectedly tied up all day and pooped ( about twice a
> > year this happens.) They are right near the register under hot
> > lamps. No take a number or wait necessary. That said, I think I
> > can still roast a chicken a lot cheaper if I am forewarned and
> > forearmed. The rotiss goes for about 7.99 and I surely can buy a
> > roaster a lot cheaper.
>
> Prices vary from one place to another and one store to another. I
> just put a small chicken in the oven. It was almost $8 for the bird.
> I would consider it a small prices to pay for a chicken that is
> cooked and ready to go. I don't see myself making a special trip to
> the store just to buy one, but I most certainly have had times where
> we were running late and stopped at a grocery store on the way home
> and picked one up.... and it was quite tasty.

I have a vertical rotisserie. Works well here. I don't distain the
store brands (they are reasonable) but my own taste better because you
can snag them off at your optimal peak and they cost less.

I've been in a rush a few times and gotten one before. Just like I
might occasionally snag a bucket of KFC.

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On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 3:37:53 PM UTC-6, Kalmia wrote:
> On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 3:52:56 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 21:24:02 -0800, Mark Thorson >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Kalmia wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and roasting it.
> > >
> > >Yes, because that's how supermarkets recycle
> > >the birds near their expiration date.
> >
> > Depends on the supermarket, most of the medium to smaller markets and
> > especially ethnic markets buy more than they can sell to get the
> > volume discount. What they can't sell prior to the expiration date
> > they use for rotisserie chicken but still most are sold to local
> > restaurants, Chinese take outs buy a lot of those chickens. The
> > markets typically conduct business with the restaurants at the loading
> > dock when they're not open for regular business. They do the same
> > with produce, Chinese take outs buy all the ready to spoil veggies
> > they can get. Who do yoose think buys most of the returned baked
> > goods from the factory outlet stores, local eateries. On Lung Guyland
> > I lived a short walk from the Entenmann's plant, they had a large
> > factory store there selling returns, most customers were local
> > restaurants... and a lot was donated to the local hospitals for the
> > write off. Who do yoose think buys most of what people here call
> > "used meat", local restaurants of course. Yoose would be amazed at
> > how little the big chain markets pay for groceries at the
> > wholesaler... a major portion of the price of food is transportation,
> > costs of transporting is kept low by sending huge semis to regional
> > warehouses. Small businesses can't take advantage of those incoming
> > bulk prices so they buy from the nether end. Supermarkets don't
> > really sell all that many rotisserie chickens, and they are a pain to
> > prepare and clean up afterwards, but most of their profit comes from
> > selling them at their deli department, the highest profit margin items
> > in the store... most rotisserie chicken buyers also buy a lot of other
> > deli items, especially salads, those have a huge mark up... and they
> > are mostly made from salvaged produce, rotted parts pared away.
> > Business isn't conducted in the make believe world the dwarf would
> > have yoose believe... it's the very rare patron who walks through the
> > entire market to get to the deli department and then wait for their
> > number to be called just to buy a stinkin' rotisserie chicken and
> > nothing else, and then walk the entire length of the store again to
> > wait at the check out just to pay their five bux for one lousy
> > chicken. I don't think anyone goes to a stupidmarket with even the
> > thought of purchasing a rotisserie chicken... people buy them because
> > they see and smell them, they're tired and haven't much time so figure
> > an easy dinner, it's a point of purchase item, the same as the rag
> > scandal papers at the checkout... most shoppers toss a lot of items
> > into their cart that they never thought to buy because it's displayed
> > as eye candy. I'm often tempted by those banks of twirling chickens
> > but then I've learned long ago I'd only be disappointed.
>
> Confession; I HAVE made a special stop for a rotiss chicken when I've been unexpectedly tied up all day and pooped ( about twice a year this happens..) They are right near the register under hot lamps. No take a number or wait necessary. That said, I think I can still roast a chicken a lot cheaper if I am forewarned and forearmed. The rotiss goes for about 7.99 and I surely can buy a roaster a lot cheaper.

I Like rotisserie chicken. Costco has the very best! hen I shop at Costco I will usually buy one to take home, also Costco has the best chicken salad I have ever eaten, they make it from the LO Rotisserie chicken , if you have not tried it , you need to. The very best.

Roast chicken made at home s good, and when I am in the mood will roast my own, I do not worry about how much the electric bill will go up when I use the oven. I just cook what I want and when I want.cannot believe that people actually worry about this.

On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 16:50:56 -0800 (PST), rosie >
wrote:

> I Like rotisserie chicken. Costco has the very best! hen I shop at Costco I will usually buy one to take home, also Costco has the best chicken salad I have ever eaten, they make it from the LO Rotisserie chicken , if you have not tried it , you need to. The very best.

I will, but it's hard to believe that Costco ever has leftover chicken
at the rate they sell them... with people standing around waiting for
a restock. I bet they are cooked especially for the chicken salad.
>
> Roast chicken made at home s good, and when I am in the mood will roast my own, I do not worry about how much the electric bill will go up when I use the oven. I just cook what I want and when I want.cannot believe that people actually worry about this.

+1 It's just the usual nit pickers doing what they usually do.
Instead of talking about what they cooked, they complain about how
much it cost them right down to the cost per kwh.

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sf

On 11/1/2015 4:37 PM, Kalmia wrote:

>
> Confession; I HAVE made a special stop for a rotiss chicken when I've been unexpectedly tied up all day and pooped ( about twice a year this happens.) They are right near the register under hot lamps. No take a number or wait necessary. That said, I think I can still roast a chicken a lot cheaper if I am forewarned and forearmed. The rotiss goes for about 7.99 and I surely can buy a roaster a lot cheaper.
>

Many of us have done that. Small price to pay for the convenience.

Sqwertz wrote:
> That is all bullshit. You sound like paranoid Sheldon.
Bugger off woman-stalker.

Have you not grasped your reign of terror here is done?


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Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food:

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On 10/30/2015 11:04 AM, Kalmia wrote:

> Someone claims that the rotiss is cheaper than buying a raw bird and
> roasting it. Do prices in your area bear this out?
>
> Yeah, I know about the power used to roast etc - but I hate those
> flavors they add. Plus, I like the aroma which permeates the house
> when I roast a bird.
>

I haven't compared but I've noticed that rotisserie chickens seem to be
shrinking. The last one I got about a month ago was about half the size
of the one I got a few years ago.

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On 2015-11-01 6:39 PM, Cheryl wrote:

>
> I haven't compared but I've noticed that rotisserie chickens seem to be
> shrinking. The last one I got about a month ago was about half the size
> of the one I got a few years ago.
>
I am not denying your experience, but the rotisserie chickens around
here are always about the same size they always have been.