"Pico Rico" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 07:20:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>> > "Jean B." wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
>>> > > stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
>>> >
>>> > I do that too. Although I have a large varity of stores to shop at,
>>>
>>> That's why I like that app because I have a separate list for every
>>> store and I never have to wish I had my list with me when I drop by
>>> one of them.
>>
>> I make my lists in my vehicle so I always have them at any store.
>
> I just grab someone else's full shopping cart when they are not looking.
> Saves a lot of time.

Do you ask them for a menu for what they intended to cook with it all?

Just think of all the time that could save ...

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> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 06:03:10 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 02:20:40 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>> I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
>>> stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
>>
>>I never do. I can figure that part out for myself, but it's a fairly
>>new feature of that app. It drops each item into a category.
>>Frankly, it's kind of annoying. One of these days I'll give it a
>>little thought and figure out how to tell it not do that.
>
> Send it a paper note!

lol
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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Jean B." wrote:
>>>
>>> I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
>>> stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
>>
>> I do that too. Although I have a large varity of stores to shop at, I
>> normally just go to my favorite one that is very close by. I know the
>> store setup well and I list my things in order of the store setup.
>
> Same here, the only thing that really ****es me off is when they decide to
> change the whole store around so things are in different places. :-)

Aye they do that so you will see more as you go around searching. It's ok
so long as you are not in a hurry and then it is infuriating!

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> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:36:55 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gary" > wrote in message
...
>>> "Jean B." wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
>>>> stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
>>>
>>> I do that too. Although I have a large varity of stores to shop at, I
>>> normally just go to my favorite one that is very close by. I know the
>>> store setup well and I list my things in order of the store setup.
>>
>>Same here, the only thing that really ****es me off is when they decide to
>>change the whole store around so things are in different places. :-)
>>
>>Cheri
>
> They do that to try and make you buy more, they reckon if they make
> you search for things, odds on you will make some non-planned impulse
> buys. It just irritates me. I know they also hate to see shoppers
> with lists, for the same reason.

Exactly! I should have read yours before I responded)


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On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:19:42 -0800, "Pico Rico" >
wrote:

>
>"Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 07:20:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>> > "Jean B." wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
>>> > > stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
>>> >
>>> > I do that too. Although I have a large varity of stores to shop at,
>>>
>>> That's why I like that app because I have a separate list for every
>>> store and I never have to wish I had my list with me when I drop by
>>> one of them.
>>
>> I make my lists in my vehicle so I always have them at any store.
>
>I just grab someone else's full shopping cart when they are not looking.
>Saves a lot of time.

I once found someone's old shopping list in the cart that I picked up.
I checked it to see if there was anything on there that I needed.

Doris

On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 20:48:45 -0500, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 2/3/2015 1:38 AM, Xeno wrote:
>>
>> A few days ago I was in town and I saw something that might be a nice
>> feature on my deck. It would add a bit of privacy, provide a welcome bit
>> of greenery and, more importantly, give me a project to work on.
>> Probably need 3 or 4 of them.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/lccg9pn
>
>Interesting. I was actually picturing a lattice with climbing vines for
>deck privacy which I might do. My deck is 8' high and visible to all
>neighbors and I've been thinking about how to add some privacy. What
>is shown in your image would't work for me, but it's cute.

One of the best privacy screens is a grape vine, naturally not for
winter but then not many people sit out on their deck in freezing
weather... I wouldn't want to block my view so I planted a few well
thought out spruce trees

"JBurns" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:59:14 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:03:52 -0800, JRStern >
>>wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 04:38:46 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On 2/4/2015 1:33 AM, Cheri wrote in reply to Julie:
>>> >>> I don't like that system either. I wish all of the stores would
>>> >>> just
>>> >>> do away with the cards.
>>> >>
>>> >> +1 with the cards. I hate them, so I guess that's why I don't buy a
>>> >> lot
>>> >> of groceries where they have them. Just put the damned stuff on sale
>>> >> without having customers jump through hoops.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheri
>>> >
>>> >I agree with that! Publix doesn't require a card. Food Lion and
>>> >Piggly
>>> >Wiggly do. Items should either be on sale or not, period. They don't
>>> >need a loyalty card to track their inventory, or people's shopping
>>> >habits. The electronic cash registers are able to tell them that.
>>> >
>>> >Jill
>>>
>>> Well, tracking a customer across sales helps marketing analysis in
>>> lots of ways. And Ralphs (Kroger) sends you some nice individualized
>>> coupons, for using their loyalty cards, including a free Tombstone
>>> pizza once a quarter, or if you buy tons there who knows what kinds of
>>> coupons they'd send.
>>>
>>> Given how incredibly obnoxious everyone is these days tracking your
>>> Internet usage, phone apps, and even physical location, I'm surprised
>>> that every single store does not try to load us up with cards. Well
>>> they do, actually, except they're called apps. If you don't already
>>> know don't ask, or it will just creep you out.
>>>
>>It's not as if we have a choice because you need the card to get the
>>sale price. Period. I'd shop more at Lucky because you only need to
>>use their card if you want gas reward points, but we don't buy the gas
>>they're affiliated with so I don't. Whole Foods has no affiliations,
>>so they're at the bottom of the heap even though they are closest full
>>service grocery store. Son and family were over for dinner last
>>Saturday, so I spent well over $100 there. I want something in return
>>if I'm going to be plonking down that much money on one day's worth of
>>food.
>
> The only store card I have is for the store that I do most of my
> shopping at. It accumulates points that I can spend on rewards or cash
> in for use at the store. They often send me triple point coupons. Last
> year I cashed in points to the value of $500 worth of shopping.
>
> The store in question is no more expensive than anywhere else and
> specials are specials, no card needed.

Ahh that is just how ours works.


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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> We don't drink milk at all and I don't make milk puddings any more so I
>> keep
>> a few separate pints of milk in the freezer for sauces.
>
>
> DH uses almond milk, and I use canned milk for pudding when the kids are
> here, but other than that I don't keep regular milk either. I use heavy
> whipping cream in coffee and for some other things.

I think that is what we call double cream and yes, I use that in my coffee
and some sauces too)

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"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:19:42 -0800, "Pico Rico" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gary" > wrote in message
...
>>> sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 07:20:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > "Jean B." wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
>>>> >
>>>> > I do that too. Although I have a large varity of stores to shop at,
>>>>
>>>> That's why I like that app because I have a separate list for every
>>>> store and I never have to wish I had my list with me when I drop by
>>>> one of them.
>>>
>>> I make my lists in my vehicle so I always have them at any store.
>>
>>I just grab someone else's full shopping cart when they are not looking.
>>Saves a lot of time.
>
> I once found someone's old shopping list in the cart that I picked up.
> I checked it to see if there was anything on there that I needed.

lolol you are worse than me )))

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On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 11:43:01 -0400, wrote:

>On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:36:55 -0800, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gary" > wrote in message ...
>>> "Jean B." wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
>>>> stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
>>>
>>> I do that too. Although I have a large varity of stores to shop at, I
>>> normally just go to my favorite one that is very close by. I know the
>>> store setup well and I list my things in order of the store setup.
>>
>>Same here, the only thing that really ****es me off is when they decide to
>>change the whole store around so things are in different places. :-)
>>
>>Cheri
>
>They do that to try and make you buy more, they reckon if they make
>you search for things, odds on you will make some non-planned impulse
>buys. It just irritates me. I know they also hate to see shoppers
>with lists, for the same reason.

Stores prefer you have a list so you don't forget to buy items, that's
why most store web sites feature list making software. Stores help
you make a list so you'll be sure to buy more than you would
ordinarilly and to add as many sale items as possible... why do you
think they distribute thousands of circulars, paper and email... they
net the greatest profit on their sale items.

On 2/5/2015 2:20 AM, Jean B. wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Sure, I'm a Luddite. I see no reason to have to sync my phone to a
>> computer and a tablet and whatever other electronic devices are around
>> the house when I can simply jot down what I need on a piece of paper.
>>
>> Most grocery stores, if they have web sites, also have a way to create
>> and print a shopping list. Add to it, subtract from it. The Publix
>> site will even tell me in which aisle specific items are located so I
>> don't have to hunt for them. I do like to look around, but mostly I
>> just want to get in, buy what I need and get out.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
> stores. That is pretty efficient for me.

I always did did that, too, Jean. But I'm still trying to find my way
around the new much larger Publix so having the list indicate what aisle
things are on is very helpful!

Jill

On 2/5/2015 8:19 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 2/1/2015 9:47 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 13:43:35 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/1/2015 1:31 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 10:22:32 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't understand why a shopping list on a cell phone would *need*
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> sync with the computer. She's not carrying the computer with her
>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The phone goes with me to the store. I prefer using a larger
>>>>>> keyboard, especially when adding more than one item to a list, so
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> means I use the computer. The tablet is often with me in the kitchen
>>>>>> because I'm using a recipe that is either from the internet or from
>>>>>> the recipe folder that's stored on my Google Drive.... which syncs
>>>>>> with my computer too. In fact, all three devices sync. Change
>>>>>> something on one and I've changed it on all of them. I like that!
>>>>>> Funny how non-techie me can understand syncing and the advantages it
>>>>>> has for me better than a lot of old farts here who claim to be more
>>>>>> technologically savvy than I am.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I sure don't claim to be more tech savvy. I simply find it easier to
>>>>> write a list. I keep the list in a small spiral notebook which is in
>>>>> my
>>>>> purse (and my purse is always where I can find it). I add to it
>>>>> when I
>>>>> think of things I want to buy. No typing required. I don't have
>>>>> electronic devices all over the house. What works for you works for
>>>>> you, except when it doesn't. Paper and pen will always work.
>>>>>
>>>> You don't even use a cellphone, so what's the point of talking about
>>>> an app for one.
>>>>
>>> For your information, I *did* own a "smartphone" for a while. It had a
>>> touchscreen and full keyboard. I know what they are and I know what
>>> they can do. Even if I *could* get a good signal I don't really see the
>>> point. Yours didn't sync. Boo hoo. I don't have the problems you do.
>>> My brain + pen & paper sync just fine.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I have a smart phone. I use it the way I want to use it. I don't
>> WANT to
>> use apps for this, that, and everything. I almost never forget my list.
>> If I do, I use my brain, which generally works quite well.
>
> The whole point being, we all do want WE want to do, not what some self
> designated superior being demands we must do!!! pftpftpfpt
>
No one is *demanding* anyone do anything. In fact, it's usually the
smartphone owners who tend to come across as superior to those who
prefer paper and pen or pencil.

Jill

On 2/5/2015 9:36 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Jean B." wrote:
>>>
>>> I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
>>> stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
>>
>> I do that too. Although I have a large varity of stores to shop at, I
>> normally just go to my favorite one that is very close by. I know the
>> store setup well and I list my things in order of the store setup.
>
> Same here, the only thing that really ****es me off is when they decide
> to change the whole store around so things are in different places. :-)
>
> Cheri

Cheri, I feel the same way. It is after work and you are in a hurry to
pick up a few things and nothing is where it used to be. Very
frustrating. They say that sales increase, when they do this, but it
makes me want to shop at different store, where I can find everything.

Becca

On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 10:12:37 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 07:20:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >
> > > "Jean B." wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
> > > > stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
> > >
> > > I do that too. Although I have a large varity of stores to shop at,
> >
> > That's why I like that app because I have a separate list for every
> > store and I never have to wish I had my list with me when I drop by
> > one of them.
>
> I make my lists in my vehicle so I always have them at any store.

You don't add to them at home? If you're the type that makes a list
just before you go, then I can't relate. My lists are made over time
or I don't use one. I just get what I want as I see it inside the
store.

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On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:19:42 -0800, "Pico Rico" >
wrote:

>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > sf wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 07:20:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >>
> >> > "Jean B." wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
> >> > > stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
> >> >
> >> > I do that too. Although I have a large varity of stores to shop at,
> >>
> >> That's why I like that app because I have a separate list for every
> >> store and I never have to wish I had my list with me when I drop by
> >> one of them.
> >
> > I make my lists in my vehicle so I always have them at any store.
>
> I just grab someone else's full shopping cart when they are not looking.
> Saves a lot of time.
>
At least you take the entire thing instead of only one item, like you
know who is so happy to brag about.

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On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 11:44:16 -0500, Doris Night
> wrote:

> I once found someone's old shopping list in the cart that I picked up.
> I checked it to see if there was anything on there that I needed.

Or something *interesting* that you might want to pick up too.

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On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 17:25:10 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:19:42 -0800, "Pico Rico" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> sf wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 07:20:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > "Jean B." wrote:
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in
> >>>> > > the
> >>>> > > stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I do that too. Although I have a large varity of stores to shop at,
> >>>>
> >>>> That's why I like that app because I have a separate list for every
> >>>> store and I never have to wish I had my list with me when I drop by
> >>>> one of them.
> >>>
> >>> I make my lists in my vehicle so I always have them at any store.
> >>
> >>I just grab someone else's full shopping cart when they are not looking.
> >>Saves a lot of time.
> >
> > I once found someone's old shopping list in the cart that I picked up.
> > I checked it to see if there was anything on there that I needed.
>
> lolol you are worse than me )))

Why? It's someone else's garbage, not state secrets.

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On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 15:54:42 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Gary" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> "Jean B." wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
> >>> stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
> >>
> >> I do that too. Although I have a large varity of stores to shop at, I
> >> normally just go to my favorite one that is very close by. I know the
> >> store setup well and I list my things in order of the store setup.
> >
> > Same here, the only thing that really ****es me off is when they decide to
> > change the whole store around so things are in different places. :-)
>
> Aye they do that so you will see more as you go around searching. It's ok
> so long as you are not in a hurry and then it is infuriating!

I feel sorry for store workers because they don't know where anything
is either for a day or two.

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On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 15:53:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 06:03:10 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 02:20:40 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
> >>> stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
> >>
> >>I never do. I can figure that part out for myself, but it's a fairly
> >>new feature of that app. It drops each item into a category.
> >>Frankly, it's kind of annoying. One of these days I'll give it a
> >>little thought and figure out how to tell it not do that.
> >
> > Send it a paper note!
>
> lol

email would probably be quicker.

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On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:50:55 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> I use heavy whipping cream in coffee and for some other things.
>
I've decided that I'm just going to buy heavy cream from now on
because it's so much more versatile than half & half.


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On 2015-02-05 4:58 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:50:55 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>> I use heavy whipping cream in coffee and for some other things.
>>
> I've decided that I'm just going to buy heavy cream from now on
> because it's so much more versatile than half & half.
>
>
Heavy is handy for making a quick sauce for things that have been
sauteed in butter.

Xeno wrote:
> On 5/02/2015 5:53 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 2/1/2015 4:30 AM, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>> You need an app to tell you that you're out of milk? I just look in the
>>>> fridge and estimate how long the current supply will last.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But with your phone you can have it do the math for you.
>>> Enter the container size
>>> Enter the milk level
>>> Enter the daily consumption
>>> or
>>> Enter the number of people in the household
>>> Enter their ages
>>> Do you drink milk in your coffee?
>>> Eat cereal?
>>> Enter today's date
>>> Tap "FINISH"
>>> Read the day you will need milk.
>>>
>>> See, simple and far more accurate.
>>
>> But why? And aren;t people's habits somewhat variable? For example, I
>> usually consume some milk in the morning. The amount is roughly the
>> same. I usually do not consume it later, but sometimes I do. As I heft
>> the milk, I have an idea of whether I need milk. If I do, I get a
>> backup. Is this hard? No. Has it ever failed me? No.
>
> My milk use is variable. It depends on my whims. Most of the time, milk
> around here is just for coffee and tea. Sometimes for breakfast cereal,
> rarely for much else. Might feel like a glass of milk now and then for
> instance. As such then, milk is an as needed purchase. When I have my
> cuppa in the morning, I will do as you do, heft the milk... and make a
> mental note to get some when I am in town. No need for fancy apps.
>
Right. Not for me.

On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 17:08:05 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2015-02-05 4:58 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:50:55 -0800, "Cheri" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I use heavy whipping cream in coffee and for some other things.
> >>
> > I've decided that I'm just going to buy heavy cream from now on
> > because it's so much more versatile than half & half.
> >
> >
> Heavy is handy for making a quick sauce for things that have been
> sauteed in butter.
>
I made a great meal last night that was basically chicken piccata plus
artichoke hearts and mushrooms with heavy cream added to the wine &
lemon sauce. Oh, man it was delicious. I made another chicken dish a
few weeks ago that was a tomato sauce with heavy cream. Very tasty!

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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 2/1/2015 4:30 AM, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>> You need an app to tell you that you're out of milk? I just look in the
>>>> fridge and estimate how long the current supply will last.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But with your phone you can have it do the math for you.
>>> Enter the container size
>>> Enter the milk level
>>> Enter the daily consumption
>>> or
>>> Enter the number of people in the household
>>> Enter their ages
>>> Do you drink milk in your coffee?
>>> Eat cereal?
>>> Enter today's date
>>> Tap "FINISH"
>>> Read the day you will need milk.
>>>
>>> See, simple and far more accurate.
>>
>> But why? And aren;t people's habits somewhat variable? For example,
>> I usually consume some milk in the morning. The amount is roughly the
>> same. I usually do not consume it later, but sometimes I do. As I
>> heft the milk, I have an idea of whether I need milk. If I do, I get
>> a backup. Is this hard? No. Has it ever failed me? No.
>
> Milk use is very sporadic in this house. So much so that often all that
> I have is the shelf stable. If I buy some kind of baked goods then I do
> buy milk because my husband does drink it with things like cookies and
> cake. Once in a great while Angela will drink a glass. Once in great
> while I use it for mashed potatoes. Other than that? Pretty much
> nobody uses it. We're not big cereal eaters.
>
> We also go through phases with various foods. We might eat lunch meat
> or bacon for a time then not have any for months.

I am the only one who drinks milk here--actually it is a low-carb (now
not calling itself that) "milk" most of the time. My daughter hates
plain milk and only will drink chocolate milk. She eats a lot of yogurt
though. (Note: she is in great physical condition: strong and lean.
She has also turned into quite the label reader.)

I don't have (or recognize?) any discernible pattern as far the last
comment goes.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 2/1/2015 9:47 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 13:43:35 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/1/2015 1:31 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 10:22:32 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't understand why a shopping list on a cell phone would
>>>>>>> *need* to
>>>>>>> sync with the computer. She's not carrying the computer with her
>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The phone goes with me to the store. I prefer using a larger
>>>>>> keyboard, especially when adding more than one item to a list, so
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> means I use the computer. The tablet is often with me in the kitchen
>>>>>> because I'm using a recipe that is either from the internet or from
>>>>>> the recipe folder that's stored on my Google Drive.... which syncs
>>>>>> with my computer too. In fact, all three devices sync. Change
>>>>>> something on one and I've changed it on all of them. I like that!
>>>>>> Funny how non-techie me can understand syncing and the advantages it
>>>>>> has for me better than a lot of old farts here who claim to be more
>>>>>> technologically savvy than I am.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I sure don't claim to be more tech savvy. I simply find it easier to
>>>>> write a list. I keep the list in a small spiral notebook which is
>>>>> in my
>>>>> purse (and my purse is always where I can find it). I add to it
>>>>> when I
>>>>> think of things I want to buy. No typing required. I don't have
>>>>> electronic devices all over the house. What works for you works for
>>>>> you, except when it doesn't. Paper and pen will always work.
>>>>>
>>>> You don't even use a cellphone, so what's the point of talking about
>>>> an app for one.
>>>>
>>> For your information, I *did* own a "smartphone" for a while. It had a
>>> touchscreen and full keyboard. I know what they are and I know what
>>> they can do. Even if I *could* get a good signal I don't really see the
>>> point. Yours didn't sync. Boo hoo. I don't have the problems you do.
>>> My brain + pen & paper sync just fine.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I have a smart phone. I use it the way I want to use it. I don't
>> WANT to use apps for this, that, and everything. I almost never
>> forget my list. If I do, I use my brain, which generally works quite
>> well.
>
> I have one too and rarely use the apps. It is nice to have the Internet
> if I am out and need it though.

I have it mainly for emergency use, and, in theory, I can access my book
collection, to the degree that I have logged it in online. The latter
doesn't work perfectly, and I recently discovered that the site has
DROPPED hundreds of my books. Aaargh. Therefore, I can't rely on it
when I am out and about, and that is the major reason I have that phone.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> KenK wrote:
>>> Gary > wrote in :
>>>
>>>> Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> sf > wrote in news:jrfqca1t2gpvrke6qk6jj8mcncd8ngqlj0@
>>>>> 4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Added a new grocery list to Out of Milk and the darned phone app
>>>>>> wouldn't sync up with the computer for me. Finally deleted it and
>>>>>> reinstalled. 30 minutes down the drain, but at least all my lists
>>>>>> are sync'd and intact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Put Dropbox on both your computer and yur phone. Always synchs.
>>>>> Handy for a lot of things.
>>>>
>>>> I prefer the good ol' ways. I love those 5X7 pads of white lined
>>>> paper. Those are for my lists. I still like real books vs electronic
>>>> books too. E-Books for me.
>>>
>>> I used to prefer the 3 x 5 unlined pads. Cheap at dollar store.
>>> Unfortunately, a year or so they evidently stopped making them - now
>>> only
>>> 3 x 5 lined spiral-bound pads. <sigh>
>>>
>>
>> I use notecards.
>
> I use a variety of paper. Whatever I find that is cute or cheap or
> both. Or old mail or something I printed off but no longer need. If I
> am making a long list that might change then I might use the computer.

In addition to notecards (sometimes used on one side), I keep various
sorts of scrap paper in a cubbyhole that sits under my monitor.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, I'm a Luddite. I see no reason to have to sync my phone to a
>>> computer and a tablet and whatever other electronic devices are around
>>> the house when I can simply jot down what I need on a piece of paper.
>>>
>>> Most grocery stores, if they have web sites, also have a way to create
>>> and print a shopping list. Add to it, subtract from it. The Publix
>>> site will even tell me in which aisle specific items are located so I
>>> don't have to hunt for them. I do like to look around, but mostly I
>>> just want to get in, buy what I need and get out.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
>> stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
>
> I do that too and I have a separate list for each store. If I am going
> to more than one store and am unsure of which one might have the best
> price then I will put a question mark by the item. I put a "c" if I
> need to use a coupon for it.

You are more organized than I am. I divide the card into various
segments, and put lists for different stores in the segments. I may
note that I should use a coupon.

Julie Bove wrote:

> Some stores here used to do that. I'll never forget going to one store
> when the POS system first went in. I was buying some sort of new,
> gourmet item and it sold for around $10. I can't remember now what the
> item was but I want to say that it had something to do with baking. I
> did do a lot of baking in those days.
>
> They were having massive problems at the registers so it took me two
> hours from the time I entered the store until I left. But I left
> getting that very expensive item for free! This was back in the 1980's
> so $10 was a big deal.
>
> Albertsons always has some item they are pushing at each checkstand.
> There used to be a sign with the item telling the customer that if you
> were not reminded of the item, you would get it for free. One day the
> guy in front of me very snottily and haughtily told the clerk that she
> had to give him the item for free because she hadn't told him about it.
> I hastily told her that I already knew about the item and didn't need it.

Cashiers at some stores here will say something like "we don't do that",
sometimes tacking on "anymore". However, it's the law, and most grocery
stores have that law posted on the side of each cash register.

Gary wrote:
> "Jean B." wrote:
>>
>> I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
>> stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
>
> I do that too. Although I have a large varity of stores to shop at, I
> normally just go to my favorite one that is very close by. I know the
> store setup well and I list my things in order of the store setup.
>
I know the setups too... until they move everything around. :-(

wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 01:48:52 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Xeno wrote:
>>> On 1/02/2015 7:49 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Added a new grocery list to Out of Milk
>>>
>>> Huh?
>>>
>>>> and the darned phone app wouldn't sync up with the computer for me.
>>> > Finally deleted it and reinstalled. 30 minutes down the drain,
>>> > but at least all my lists are sync'd and intact.
>>>>
>>> You need an app to tell you that you're out of milk? I just look in the
>>> fridge and estimate how long the current supply will last.
>>>
>> Amazing! I do that too! And I make paper lists.
>
> So do I - they should be careful and read what docs are saying about
> the necks and upper vertebrae of people who are forever looking down
> at their phones
>
Oh, interesting. BUT then I am always looking up at my monitor, so I am
guessing something similar applies to me.

pltrgyst wrote:
> On 2/5/15 1:48 AM, Jean B. wrote:
>
>> Amazing! I do that too! And I make paper lists.
>
> I keep a small whiteboard (actually an old Corningware ceramic cutting
> board, approximately 10" x 14") attached to the side of the
> refrigerator, and write shopping items on it with a Sharpie. Then when I
> go shopping, I snap a picture of the current shopping list with my cell
> phone.
>
> When I return, I wipe off the items I've bought.
>
> -- Larry
>

That's an interesting approach!

Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 2/1/2015 9:47 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 13:43:35 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/1/2015 1:31 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 10:22:32 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't understand why a shopping list on a cell phone would *need*
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> sync with the computer. She's not carrying the computer with her
>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The phone goes with me to the store. I prefer using a larger
>>>>>> keyboard, especially when adding more than one item to a list, so
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> means I use the computer. The tablet is often with me in the kitchen
>>>>>> because I'm using a recipe that is either from the internet or from
>>>>>> the recipe folder that's stored on my Google Drive.... which syncs
>>>>>> with my computer too. In fact, all three devices sync. Change
>>>>>> something on one and I've changed it on all of them. I like that!
>>>>>> Funny how non-techie me can understand syncing and the advantages it
>>>>>> has for me better than a lot of old farts here who claim to be more
>>>>>> technologically savvy than I am.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I sure don't claim to be more tech savvy. I simply find it easier to
>>>>> write a list. I keep the list in a small spiral notebook which is in
>>>>> my
>>>>> purse (and my purse is always where I can find it). I add to it
>>>>> when I
>>>>> think of things I want to buy. No typing required. I don't have
>>>>> electronic devices all over the house. What works for you works for
>>>>> you, except when it doesn't. Paper and pen will always work.
>>>>>
>>>> You don't even use a cellphone, so what's the point of talking about
>>>> an app for one.
>>>>
>>> For your information, I *did* own a "smartphone" for a while. It had a
>>> touchscreen and full keyboard. I know what they are and I know what
>>> they can do. Even if I *could* get a good signal I don't really see the
>>> point. Yours didn't sync. Boo hoo. I don't have the problems you do.
>>> My brain + pen & paper sync just fine.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I have a smart phone. I use it the way I want to use it. I don't
>> WANT to
>> use apps for this, that, and everything. I almost never forget my list.
>> If I do, I use my brain, which generally works quite well.
>
> The whole point being, we all do want WE want to do, not what some self
> designated superior being demands we must do!!! pftpftpfpt
>
>Yes, of course.

wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 08:16:12 -0500, pltrgyst > wrote:
>
>> On 2/5/15 1:48 AM, Jean B. wrote:
>>
>>> Amazing! I do that too! And I make paper lists.
>>
>> I keep a small whiteboard (actually an old Corningware ceramic cutting
>> board, approximately 10" x 14") attached to the side of the
>> refrigerator, and write shopping items on it with a Sharpie. Then when I
>> go shopping, I snap a picture of the current shopping list with my cell
>> phone.
>>
>> When I return, I wipe off the items I've bought.
>>
>> -- Larry
>
> Now that's a good idea, I might be jostled into doing that but
> otherwise my smart phone is smart enough to remain silent, except when
> someone calls me or a tiny beep if a text comes in and that's it. Why
> would I want it for anything more ?
>
Now that's a good smart phone! Almost no one has my cell phone number.
(Someone else gave it to some people, but I have only given it to
entities like doctors [for callbacks], my daughter's schools [in case of
emergency], my daughter, not many more people.) I don't like people
calling me on the cell phone. For that matter, my dislike for phone
calls in general is only slightly less than it is for the cell phone.

Text messages and emails are nice and quiet and wait until you feel like
tackling them.

notbob wrote:
> On 2015-02-05, Jean B. > wrote:
>
>> constantly faffing around with them.
>
> I love British terminology. A total hoot.
>
> nb
>
Heheh. I think I got this from a NG friend from Oz. Maybe another
person who frequents the same groups will remember....

Cheri wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Jean B." wrote:
>>>
>>> I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
>>> stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
>>
>> I do that too. Although I have a large varity of stores to shop at, I
>> normally just go to my favorite one that is very close by. I know the
>> store setup well and I list my things in order of the store setup.
>
> Same here, the only thing that really ****es me off is when they decide
> to change the whole store around so things are in different places. :-)
>
> Cheri

That is so annoying... and a lot of work for the employees. I have a
theory that it gets people to look at items that they normally walk by,
although that must not be the total rationale.

wrote:

> They do that to try and make you buy more, they reckon if they make
> you search for things, odds on you will make some non-planned impulse
> buys. It just irritates me. I know they also hate to see shoppers
> with lists, for the same reason.
>
I had never thought about that last part, but it makes total sense.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 20:48:45 -0500, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/3/2015 1:38 AM, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>> A few days ago I was in town and I saw something that might be a nice
>>> feature on my deck. It would add a bit of privacy, provide a welcome bit
>>> of greenery and, more importantly, give me a project to work on.
>>> Probably need 3 or 4 of them.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/lccg9pn
>>
>> Interesting. I was actually picturing a lattice with climbing vines for
>> deck privacy which I might do. My deck is 8' high and visible to all
>> neighbors and I've been thinking about how to add some privacy. What
>> is shown in your image would't work for me, but it's cute.
>
> One of the best privacy screens is a grape vine, naturally not for
> winter but then not many people sit out on their deck in freezing
> weather... I wouldn't want to block my view so I planted a few well
> thought out spruce trees
>
Unfortunately, my current house came with a trumpet vine on the corner
of the deck. Ironically, I had looked into them and had decided that I
wouldn't plant any such thing. It is hideously invasive.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/5/2015 2:20 AM, Jean B. wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, I'm a Luddite. I see no reason to have to sync my phone to a
>>> computer and a tablet and whatever other electronic devices are around
>>> the house when I can simply jot down what I need on a piece of paper.
>>>
>>> Most grocery stores, if they have web sites, also have a way to create
>>> and print a shopping list. Add to it, subtract from it. The Publix
>>> site will even tell me in which aisle specific items are located so I
>>> don't have to hunt for them. I do like to look around, but mostly I
>>> just want to get in, buy what I need and get out.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I actually write my lists in the order the items are arranged in the
>> stores. That is pretty efficient for me.
>
> I always did did that, too, Jean. But I'm still trying to find my way
> around the new much larger Publix so having the list indicate what aisle
> things are on is very helpful!
>
> Jill

I'm sure.

On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 6:51:34 PM UTC-5, Jean B. wrote:
>
> You are more organized than I am. I divide the card into various
> segments, and put lists for different stores in the segments. I may
> note that I should use a coupon.

I made up an aisle list of the location of my most frequently bought items, stuck it on my fridge next to my PAPER list. I can cruise thru the store and skip whole aisles and rarely even look at my aisle guide.

The store gave up with the aisle guides on the carts - too many ppl picked at em and most of the print was obliterated.

Publix is infamous for rearranging. For a while, it was about every 9 months. I figured someone had a baby, quit the job, and the replacement person started again with rearrangement, then oops - baby on the way and so it went.

On 2015-02-05 19:13, Jean B. wrote:

>
> That is so annoying... and a lot of work for the employees. I have a
> theory that it gets people to look at items that they normally walk by,
> although that must not be the total rationale.

There are people in management who think that their role is to make
changes and assume that those changes will improve sales.