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I had one package of Cooking Light (from Target) precooked turkey breast
left and needed to use it up. I cooked two servings of wild rice (the real
stuff) in some vegetable broth and added some chopped celery and dried
chopped onions. The end result was really wet so I added some dried leeks
and dried green and white onions. Also a can of peas (drained), a box of
turkey gravy, pepper and parsley and the remaining turkey cut into little
pieces. Baked for about an hour, uncovered. Just long enough to heat
through, soften the added dried veggies and dry it out some.

I will not try to foist the leftovers off onto anyone else because they were
not thrilled with the turkey and they don't like wild rice but I rather
liked the dish. Not enough to want to make it a lot but it was a good way
to use up leftover turkey.

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On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 02:02:05 -0800, "Julie Bove"
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> Not enough to want to make it a lot but it was a good way
> to use up leftover turkey.


I took the last of the Thanksgiving turkey meat out of the freezer and
used it to make a filling for cup tamales. I found a big bag of
premade masa dough at Safeway (of all places) so tamales were calling
my name.

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> On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 02:02:05 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Not enough to want to make it a lot but it was a good way
>> to use up leftover turkey.

>
> I took the last of the Thanksgiving turkey meat out of the freezer and
> used it to make a filling for cup tamales. I found a big bag of
> premade masa dough at Safeway (of all places) so tamales were calling
> my name.


I have tried turkey in Mexican food and even though I know that they
commonly use it, I didn't care for it.

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On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:02:13 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> I had one package of Cooking Light (from Target) precooked turkey breast
> left and needed to use it up. I cooked two servings of wild rice (the real
> stuff) in some vegetable broth and added some chopped celery and dried
> chopped onions. The end result was really wet so I added some dried leeks
> and dried green and white onions. Also a can of peas (drained), a box of
> turkey gravy, pepper and parsley and the remaining turkey cut into little
> pieces. Baked for about an hour, uncovered. Just long enough to heat
> through, soften the added dried veggies and dry it out some.
>
> I will not try to foist the leftovers off onto anyone else because they were
> not thrilled with the turkey and they don't like wild rice but I rather
> liked the dish. Not enough to want to make it a lot but it was a good way
> to use up leftover turkey.


Note: 'precooked', 'can of', 'box of'. No wonder your concoctions are so
blah. Ever consider that? Please - spare us all the justifications.
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I wouldn't eat turkey, chicken or fish tacos. Sausage tacos may be ok tho.


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> I wouldn't eat turkey, chicken or fish tacos. Sausage tacos may be ok tho.


Why is this important?

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>> I wouldn't eat turkey, chicken or fish tacos. Sausage tacos may be ok
>> tho.

>
> Why is this important?
>



Because it starts off with "I".


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>> Why is this important?


> Because it starts off with "I".


LOL!.....

Seems fairly obvious to me.

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> "sf" > wrote in message
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> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:46:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:
> >
> >> I wouldn't eat turkey, chicken or fish tacos. Sausage tacos may be ok
> >> tho.

> >
> > Why is this important?
> >

>
>
> Because it starts off with "I".
>

Pardonaymoi! Of course you are correct.

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> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:27:15 -0800, "Reggie" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:46:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>> >
>> >> I wouldn't eat turkey, chicken or fish tacos. Sausage tacos may be ok
>> >> tho.
>> >
>> > Why is this important?
>> >

>>
>>
>> Because it starts off with "I".
>>

> Pardonaymoi! Of course you are correct.
>


Or perhaps you mean ... Pardonne-moi?

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On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:31:59 -0000, "Ophelia"
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>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:27:15 -0800, "Reggie" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:46:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I wouldn't eat turkey, chicken or fish tacos. Sausage tacos may be ok
> >> >> tho.
> >> >
> >> > Why is this important?
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Because it starts off with "I".
> >>

> > Pardonaymoi! Of course you are correct.
> >

>
> Or perhaps you mean ... Pardonne-moi?


No. I thought very carefully about how I wanted to spell it.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:31:59 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:27:15 -0800, "Reggie" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:46:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I wouldn't eat turkey, chicken or fish tacos. Sausage tacos may be
>> >> >> ok
>> >> >> tho.
>> >> >
>> >> > Why is this important?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Because it starts off with "I".
>> >>
>> > Pardonaymoi! Of course you are correct.
>> >

>>
>> Or perhaps you mean ... Pardonne-moi?

>
> No. I thought very carefully about how I wanted to spell it.


Ahhh, yes. Of course you did ...

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On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 23:07:33 -0000, "Ophelia"
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>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:31:59 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:27:15 -0800, "Reggie" >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:46:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I wouldn't eat turkey, chicken or fish tacos. Sausage tacos may be
> >> >> >> ok
> >> >> >> tho.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Why is this important?
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Because it starts off with "I".
> >> >>
> >> > Pardonaymoi! Of course you are correct.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Or perhaps you mean ... Pardonne-moi?

> >
> > No. I thought very carefully about how I wanted to spell it.

>
> Ahhh, yes. Of course you did ...


Whatever Ophelia.

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On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:31:50 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:27:15 -0800, "Reggie" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:46:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I wouldn't eat turkey, chicken or fish tacos. Sausage tacos may be ok
> >> >> tho.
> >> >
> >> > Why is this important?
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Because it starts off with "I".
> >>

> > Pardonaymoi! Of course you are correct.
> >

>
> Or perhaps you mean ... Pardonne-moi?



Or...perhaps YOU meant 'pardonnez'? Be very sure before you go slinging corrections. Oh, _I_ see - you were trying to be cute too.
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> On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:02:13 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I had one package of Cooking Light (from Target) precooked turkey breast
>> left and needed to use it up. I cooked two servings of wild rice (the
>> real
>> stuff) in some vegetable broth and added some chopped celery and dried
>> chopped onions. The end result was really wet so I added some dried
>> leeks
>> and dried green and white onions. Also a can of peas (drained), a box of
>> turkey gravy, pepper and parsley and the remaining turkey cut into little
>> pieces. Baked for about an hour, uncovered. Just long enough to heat
>> through, soften the added dried veggies and dry it out some.
>>
>> I will not try to foist the leftovers off onto anyone else because they
>> were
>> not thrilled with the turkey and they don't like wild rice but I rather
>> liked the dish. Not enough to want to make it a lot but it was a good
>> way
>> to use up leftover turkey.

>
> Note: 'precooked', 'can of', 'box of'. No wonder your concoctions are so
> blah. Ever consider that? Please - spare us all the justifications.


It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it again.
I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as dried
out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.

I had the turkey casserole again last night and it was even better. I guess
sitting like it did allowed the flavors to blend even more.



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>I wouldn't eat turkey, chicken or fish tacos. Sausage tacos may be ok tho.


My daughter loves chicken tacos and my mom loves fish. I prefer bean.

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>> I wouldn't eat turkey, chicken or fish tacos. Sausage tacos may be ok
>> tho.

>
> Why is this important?


Does it have to be important?

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> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 23:07:33 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:31:59 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:27:15 -0800, "Reggie"
>> >> > >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:46:13 -0800 (PST),
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> I wouldn't eat turkey, chicken or fish tacos. Sausage tacos may
>> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> ok
>> >> >> >> tho.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Why is this important?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Because it starts off with "I".
>> >> >>
>> >> > Pardonaymoi! Of course you are correct.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Or perhaps you mean ... Pardonne-moi?
>> >
>> > No. I thought very carefully about how I wanted to spell it.

>>
>> Ahhh, yes. Of course you did ...

>
> Whatever Ophelia.


Well, since you did it with great deliberation ... would you like to share?


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On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:17:26 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Kalmia" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:02:13 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> I had one package of Cooking Light (from Target) precooked turkey breast
> >> left and needed to use it up. I cooked two servings of wild rice (the
> >> real
> >> stuff) in some vegetable broth and added some chopped celery and dried
> >> chopped onions. The end result was really wet so I added some dried
> >> leeks
> >> and dried green and white onions. Also a can of peas (drained), a box of
> >> turkey gravy, pepper and parsley and the remaining turkey cut into little
> >> pieces. Baked for about an hour, uncovered. Just long enough to heat
> >> through, soften the added dried veggies and dry it out some.
> >>
> >> I will not try to foist the leftovers off onto anyone else because they
> >> were
> >> not thrilled with the turkey and they don't like wild rice but I rather
> >> liked the dish. Not enough to want to make it a lot but it was a good
> >> way
> >> to use up leftover turkey.

> >
> > Note: 'precooked', 'can of', 'box of'. No wonder your concoctions are so
> > blah. Ever consider that? Please - spare us all the justifications.

>
> It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
> canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
> precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
> traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
> but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it again.
> I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
> whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as dried
> out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
> bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
> lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.
>
> I had the turkey casserole again last night and it was even better. I guess
> sitting like it did allowed the flavors to blend even more.


I would've bet a million dollars you'd come up with your usual lame 'reasoning'.

If your meals aren't blah, then why do you report OFTEN that they weren't so well received? Oh, don't even bother to answer that. Go buy a bunch of boxes, packets and cans and think you're a gourmet chef.
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On 12/17/2014 9:37 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> If your meals aren't blah, then why do you report OFTEN that they weren't so well received? Oh, don't even bother to answer that. Go buy a bunch of boxes, packets and cans and think you're a gourmet chef.


You can't win this one, Kalmia. Save your carpal tunnel.

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On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
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>It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
>canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
>precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
>traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
>but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it again.
>I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
>whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as dried
>out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
>bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
>lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.


You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
favourites.)

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On 12/17/2014 10:38 AM, Doris Night wrote:
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> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
> favourites.)
>
> Doris
>

I certainly don't cook a turkey just because it's Thanksgiving. It's
not as if the tradition police are going to scold you for not having
turkey. If you don't like something, why force yourself to eat it?

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On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:38:25 -0500, Doris Night
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> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
> >canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
> >precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
> >traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
> >but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it again.
> >I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
> >whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as dried
> >out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
> >bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
> >lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.

>
> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
> favourites.)
>

Doris... you've just opened a can of worms with the mention of
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On 12/17/2014 12:49 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:38:25 -0500, Doris Night
> > wrote:
>
>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>> favourites.)
>>

> Doris... you've just opened a can of worms with the mention of
> chicken.
>

Oh yeah. She refuses to handle chicken. Prepping and cooking raw
chicken would be out of the question.

I honestly don't know anyone who *likes* handling raw chicken. One
could always wear food prep gloves. Me, I just wash my hands frequently.

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"Kalmia" > wrote in message
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> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:17:26 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Kalmia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:02:13 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> I had one package of Cooking Light (from Target) precooked turkey
>> >> breast
>> >> left and needed to use it up. I cooked two servings of wild rice (the
>> >> real
>> >> stuff) in some vegetable broth and added some chopped celery and dried
>> >> chopped onions. The end result was really wet so I added some dried
>> >> leeks
>> >> and dried green and white onions. Also a can of peas (drained), a box
>> >> of
>> >> turkey gravy, pepper and parsley and the remaining turkey cut into
>> >> little
>> >> pieces. Baked for about an hour, uncovered. Just long enough to heat
>> >> through, soften the added dried veggies and dry it out some.
>> >>
>> >> I will not try to foist the leftovers off onto anyone else because
>> >> they
>> >> were
>> >> not thrilled with the turkey and they don't like wild rice but I
>> >> rather
>> >> liked the dish. Not enough to want to make it a lot but it was a good
>> >> way
>> >> to use up leftover turkey.
>> >
>> > Note: 'precooked', 'can of', 'box of'. No wonder your concoctions are
>> > so
>> > blah. Ever consider that? Please - spare us all the justifications.

>>
>> It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
>> canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
>> precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
>> traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
>> but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it
>> again.
>> I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
>> whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as
>> dried
>> out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
>> bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
>> lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.
>>
>> I had the turkey casserole again last night and it was even better. I
>> guess
>> sitting like it did allowed the flavors to blend even more.

>
> I would've bet a million dollars you'd come up with your usual lame
> 'reasoning'.
>
> If your meals aren't blah, then why do you report OFTEN that they weren't
> so well received? Oh, don't even bother to answer that. Go buy a bunch
> of boxes, packets and cans and think you're a gourmet chef.


That's not true at all! They don't like wild rice so I wouldn't offer this
to them. Duh! And I don't think I'm any kind of chef.



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> > wrote:
>
>>It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
>>canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
>>precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
>>traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
>>but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it
>>again.
>>I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
>>whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as dried
>>out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
>>bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
>>lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.

>
> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
> favourites.)


Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so. At
least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.

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>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
>> >canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
>> >precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
>> >traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
>> >but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it
>> >again.
>> >I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
>> >whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as
>> >dried
>> >out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
>> >bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
>> >lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.

>>
>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>> favourites.)
>>

> Doris... you've just opened a can of worms with the mention of
> chicken.


Yes indeed. Why do people always presume that everyone else loves chicken?

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>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:38:25 -0500, Doris Night
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>> favourites.)
>>>

>> Doris... you've just opened a can of worms with the mention of
>> chicken.
>>

> Oh yeah. She refuses to handle chicken. Prepping and cooking raw chicken
> would be out of the question.
>
> I honestly don't know anyone who *likes* handling raw chicken. One could
> always wear food prep gloves. Me, I just wash my hands frequently.


None of us like chicken. Angela will eat it at some restaurants. I hate it
unless it is canned and only then because it doesn't really taste like
chicken to me. Husband will eat the canned in a salad. He isn't a chicken
lover either.

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>
>"Doris Night" > wrote in message

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>>
>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>> favourites.)

>
>Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
>Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so. At
>least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.


You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
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> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Doris Night" > wrote in message

> snip
>>>
>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>> favourites.)

>>
>>Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
>>Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so. At
>>least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.

>
> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
> Janet US


No. I couldn't. I have no clue how to make the chicken so she would like
it and she hasn't ordered tacos in probably about a year. Plus nobody else
would eat chicken tacos. Although I do sometimes make individual meals,
this wouldn't be one of them.



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On 12/17/2014 4:55 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message

> snip
>>>
>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>> favourites.)

>>
>> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
>> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so.


Good lord, Doris didn't say that. It wasn't a mandate you roast a
chicken. It was a *suggestion* since you were complaining they wouldn't
eat the turkey casserole you made with pre-cooked turkey.

>> At
>> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.

>

Obviously not all since they didn't want to eat your casserole.

> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
> Janet US
>

That would make too much sense. More likely, for some reason her
daughter has developed a dislike for chicken tacos.

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On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 21:37:06 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/17/2014 4:55 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message

>> snip
>>>>
>>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>>> favourites.)
>>>
>>> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
>>> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so.

>
>Good lord, Doris didn't say that. It wasn't a mandate you roast a
>chicken. It was a *suggestion* since you were complaining they wouldn't
>eat the turkey casserole you made with pre-cooked turkey.
>
>>> At
>>> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.

>>

>Obviously not all since they didn't want to eat your casserole.
>
>> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
>> Janet US
>>

>That would make too much sense. More likely, for some reason her
>daughter has developed a dislike for chicken tacos.


I think her daughter and her husband have developed a dislike for
*all* meat that she cooks. Precooked turkey, canned chicken, etc.
Hell, would you eat her food if you knew the provenance of her meat? I
certainly wouldn't

We've heard about her experiences with beef, turkey, and chicken. She
hasn't mentioned pork, veal, lamb, goat, goose, duck, game meats, or
any kind of fish or seafood. I wonder if she has ever cooked any of
these.

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On 12/17/2014 11:14 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 21:37:06 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/17/2014 4:55 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>>>> favourites.)
>>>>
>>>> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
>>>> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so.

>>
>> Good lord, Doris didn't say that. It wasn't a mandate you roast a
>> chicken. It was a *suggestion* since you were complaining they wouldn't
>> eat the turkey casserole you made with pre-cooked turkey.
>>
>>>> At
>>>> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.
>>>

>> Obviously not all since they didn't want to eat your casserole.
>>
>>> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
>>> Janet US
>>>

>> That would make too much sense. More likely, for some reason her
>> daughter has developed a dislike for chicken tacos.

>
> I think her daughter and her husband have developed a dislike for
> *all* meat that she cooks. Precooked turkey, canned chicken, etc.
> Hell, would you eat her food if you knew the provenance of her meat? I
> certainly wouldn't
>

No, I would not. Especially since she's also mentioned she cooks all
the meat she buys when she gets it home from the store. So she
pre-cooks her own meat if she doesn't buy it that way.
Sounds pretty disgusting to me.

> We've heard about her experiences with beef, turkey, and chicken. She
> hasn't mentioned pork, veal, lamb, goat, goose, duck, game meats, or
> any kind of fish or seafood. I wonder if she has ever cooked any of
> these.
>
> Doris
>

She has mentioned seafood. In the Christmas thread she said something
about having made a garlicky shrimp pasta. But it affects her husband's
gout so shrimp/seafood is out.

I seriously doubt she's eaten much (if any) game meats. Somehow I don't
see cooking lamb as part of her repertoire, either. Hmmm, she could
probably make some Mexican-style lamb. Goat might be more traditional,
though.

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> On 12/17/2014 4:55 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message

>> snip
>>>>
>>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>>> favourites.)
>>>
>>> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
>>> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so.

>
> Good lord, Doris didn't say that. It wasn't a mandate you roast a
> chicken. It was a *suggestion* since you were complaining they wouldn't
> eat the turkey casserole you made with pre-cooked turkey.


I wasn't complaining and they wouldn't eat it because I made it with wild
rice which *they* don't eat! I can't tell you how many people here have
suggested roasted chicken to me over the years and that is one food that all
of us here flat out do not like.
>
>>> At
>>> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.

>>

> Obviously not all since they didn't want to eat your casserole.


Because they don't like wild rice! It has nothing to do with the turkey.
>
>> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
>> Janet US
>>

> That would make too much sense. More likely, for some reason her daughter
> has developed a dislike for chicken tacos.


Tacos are not her favorite food but if she has to eat one she will choose
chicken.

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> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 21:37:06 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 12/17/2014 4:55 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>>>> favourites.)
>>>>
>>>> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens.
>>>> So...
>>>> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so.

>>
>>Good lord, Doris didn't say that. It wasn't a mandate you roast a
>>chicken. It was a *suggestion* since you were complaining they wouldn't
>>eat the turkey casserole you made with pre-cooked turkey.
>>
>>>> At
>>>> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.
>>>

>>Obviously not all since they didn't want to eat your casserole.
>>
>>> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
>>> Janet US
>>>

>>That would make too much sense. More likely, for some reason her
>>daughter has developed a dislike for chicken tacos.

>
> I think her daughter and her husband have developed a dislike for
> *all* meat that she cooks. Precooked turkey, canned chicken, etc.
> Hell, would you eat her food if you knew the provenance of her meat? I
> certainly wouldn't


I bought the precooked turkey because I only wanted a small amount. I tried
to cook a boneless turkey breast once and we didn't like it. So I wasn't
going to try that again and this tasted perfectly fine to me.
>
> We've heard about her experiences with beef, turkey, and chicken. She
> hasn't mentioned pork, veal, lamb, goat, goose, duck, game meats, or
> any kind of fish or seafood. I wonder if she has ever cooked any of
> these.


No, and I won't. I do not like meat, plain and simple. I do have to eat
some because I can not have eggs or dairy and beans alone are just not
enough protein for me. We do all like bacon but that is really the only
pork that we like. Both husband and daughter love steaks. That's really
the only meat they like. Lamb is very expensive. I can't eat it and
husband won't. Daughter won't now that she knows what it is but she did
like it. Nobody here has any interest in game meats although husband has
eaten strange things made as jerky. He has also eaten alligator. I do tuna
salad and casserole once in a while and also fish and chips for them. They
do like it but I have to limit the fish and seafood because of husband's
gout.

Perhaps things like duck, goose and game meats are common where you are at.
They are not here and neither is veal. They are also expensive and I tend
not to do expensive. If I have to buy expensive meat, I'll buy steak
because I know they'll eat that.



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> On 12/17/2014 11:14 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 21:37:06 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/17/2014 4:55 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>>> snip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>>>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>>>>> favourites.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens.
>>>>> So...
>>>>> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so.
>>>
>>> Good lord, Doris didn't say that. It wasn't a mandate you roast a
>>> chicken. It was a *suggestion* since you were complaining they wouldn't
>>> eat the turkey casserole you made with pre-cooked turkey.
>>>
>>>>> At
>>>>> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.
>>>>
>>> Obviously not all since they didn't want to eat your casserole.
>>>
>>>> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>> That would make too much sense. More likely, for some reason her
>>> daughter has developed a dislike for chicken tacos.

>>
>> I think her daughter and her husband have developed a dislike for
>> *all* meat that she cooks. Precooked turkey, canned chicken, etc.
>> Hell, would you eat her food if you knew the provenance of her meat? I
>> certainly wouldn't
>>

> No, I would not. Especially since she's also mentioned she cooks all the
> meat she buys when she gets it home from the store. So she pre-cooks her
> own meat if she doesn't buy it that way.
> Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
>
>> We've heard about her experiences with beef, turkey, and chicken. She
>> hasn't mentioned pork, veal, lamb, goat, goose, duck, game meats, or
>> any kind of fish or seafood. I wonder if she has ever cooked any of
>> these.
>>
>> Doris
>>

> She has mentioned seafood. In the Christmas thread she said something
> about having made a garlicky shrimp pasta. But it affects her husband's
> gout so shrimp/seafood is out.
>
> I seriously doubt she's eaten much (if any) game meats. Somehow I don't
> see cooking lamb as part of her repertoire, either. Hmmm, she could
> probably make some Mexican-style lamb. Goat might be more traditional,
> though.


I have never eaten game meats nor would I. And I can't eat lamb. I do know
that they eat goat in Mexico. I'll pass. Beans are fine for me.

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On Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:20:32 AM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
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> ...
> > On 12/17/2014 11:14 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> >> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 21:37:06 -0500, jmcquown >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 12/17/2014 4:55 PM, Janet B wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> >>>> snip
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just
> >>>>>> because
> >>>>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
> >>>>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
> >>>>>> favourites.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens.
> >>>>> So...
> >>>>> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so.
> >>>
> >>> Good lord, Doris didn't say that. It wasn't a mandate you roast a
> >>> chicken. It was a *suggestion* since you were complaining they wouldn't
> >>> eat the turkey casserole you made with pre-cooked turkey.
> >>>
> >>>>> At
> >>>>> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.
> >>>>
> >>> Obviously not all since they didn't want to eat your casserole.
> >>>
> >>>> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
> >>>> Janet US
> >>>>
> >>> That would make too much sense. More likely, for some reason her
> >>> daughter has developed a dislike for chicken tacos.
> >>
> >> I think her daughter and her husband have developed a dislike for
> >> *all* meat that she cooks. Precooked turkey, canned chicken, etc.
> >> Hell, would you eat her food if you knew the provenance of her meat? I
> >> certainly wouldn't
> >>

> > No, I would not. Especially since she's also mentioned she cooks all the
> > meat she buys when she gets it home from the store. So she pre-cooks her
> > own meat if she doesn't buy it that way.
> > Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
> >
> >> We've heard about her experiences with beef, turkey, and chicken. She
> >> hasn't mentioned pork, veal, lamb, goat, goose, duck, game meats, or
> >> any kind of fish or seafood. I wonder if she has ever cooked any of
> >> these.
> >>
> >> Doris
> >>

> > She has mentioned seafood. In the Christmas thread she said something
> > about having made a garlicky shrimp pasta. But it affects her husband's
> > gout so shrimp/seafood is out.
> >
> > I seriously doubt she's eaten much (if any) game meats. Somehow I don't
> > see cooking lamb as part of her repertoire, either. Hmmm, she could
> > probably make some Mexican-style lamb. Goat might be more traditional,
> > though.

>
> I have never eaten game meats nor would I. And I can't eat lamb. I do know
> that they eat goat in Mexico. I'll pass. Beans are fine for me.


"Can't eat lamb"...What quack told you that you couldn't?
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On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 2:56:45 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
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> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
> >>canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
> >>precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
> >>traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
> >>but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it
> >>again.
> >>I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
> >>whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as dried
> >>out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
> >>bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
> >>lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.

> >
> > You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
> > it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
> > care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
> > favourites.)

>
> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so. At
> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.


Anybody ever tell you you're an ASS?
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On 12/17/2014 9:38 AM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
>> canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
>> precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
>> traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
>> but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it again.
>> I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
>> whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as dried
>> out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
>> bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
>> lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.

>
> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
> it's traditional.


What?! And (temporarily) leave Julie with nothing to complain about?
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> And I don't think I'm any kind of chef.


You surely got THAT right, sister.

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