On 10/5/2014 2:57 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 20:48:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"


>>> You're thinking of old refrigerators.
>>
>> Nope. Let me look it up for ya.
>>
>> http://www.lanefurniture.com/custome...placement.aspx
>
> Where are your statistics about children dying in them? They are not
> air tight, so children and animals will not run out of oxygen.
> Starving is another issue for animals. Kids will make enough noise to
> be found.
>

Nope, kids have died. We had one local about a year ago. Here is one
of them. Suffocating kids don't make a lot of noise, and often these
chests are stored away from the daily family activity room.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014...ope-chest?lite

Here is some statistics
http://www.insideedition.com/investi...t-in-your-home

You have to push a button on the outside of the chest to open it. But
if a child climbs inside and the lid closes, there is no way out.
Suffocation and death comes quickly.

And it's not just little kids. Even 15-year-old Natalie Massarella, from
Columbus, Ohio, suffocated in a Lane hope chest. Her mother, Mary,
discovered her body.

“I opened it and I found her. And I screamed for [my husband] to call
911,” said Mary.

Robert Adler, Commissioner for the U.S. Consumer Products Safety
Commission, made a sobering prediction, “I'm very afraid that we will
see that happen. It's been happening on a regular basis since 1987.
There have been nine deaths, including the most recent two deaths. So
I'm very concerned that it may happen again.”

On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 09:50:34 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 10/5/2014 2:57 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 20:48:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
>
> >>> You're thinking of old refrigerators.
> >>
> >> Nope. Let me look it up for ya.
> >>
> >> http://www.lanefurniture.com/custome...placement.aspx
> >
> > Where are your statistics about children dying in them? They are not
> > air tight, so children and animals will not run out of oxygen.
> > Starving is another issue for animals. Kids will make enough noise to
> > be found.
> >
>
> Nope, kids have died. We had one local about a year ago. Here is one
> of them. Suffocating kids don't make a lot of noise, and often these
> chests are stored away from the daily family activity room.
>
> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014...ope-chest?lite
>
> Here is some statistics
> http://www.insideedition.com/investi...t-in-your-home
>
> You have to push a button on the outside of the chest to open it. But
> if a child climbs inside and the lid closes, there is no way out.
> Suffocation and death comes quickly.
>
> And it's not just little kids. Even 15-year-old Natalie Massarella, from
> Columbus, Ohio, suffocated in a Lane hope chest. Her mother, Mary,
> discovered her body.
>
> “I opened it and I found her. And I screamed for [my husband] to call
> 911,” said Mary.
>
> Robert Adler, Commissioner for the U.S. Consumer Products Safety
> Commission, made a sobering prediction, “I'm very afraid that we will
> see that happen. It's been happening on a regular basis since 1987.
> There have been nine deaths, including the most recent two deaths. So
> I'm very concerned that it may happen again.”

I had no idea anyone or anything could suffocate inside a wooden box.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On 10/5/2014 12:23 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 09:50:34 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 10/5/2014 2:57 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 20:48:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>
>>
>>>>> You're thinking of old refrigerators.
>>>>
>>>> Nope. Let me look it up for ya.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.lanefurniture.com/custome...placement.aspx
>>>
>>> Where are your statistics about children dying in them? They are not
>>> air tight, so children and animals will not run out of oxygen.
>>> Starving is another issue for animals. Kids will make enough noise to
>>> be found.
>>>
>>
>> Nope, kids have died. We had one local about a year ago. Here is one
>> of them. Suffocating kids don't make a lot of noise, and often these
>> chests are stored away from the daily family activity room.
>>
>> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014...ope-chest?lite
>>
>> Here is some statistics
>> http://www.insideedition.com/investi...t-in-your-home
>>
>> You have to push a button on the outside of the chest to open it. But
>> if a child climbs inside and the lid closes, there is no way out.
>> Suffocation and death comes quickly.
>>
>> And it's not just little kids. Even 15-year-old Natalie Massarella, from
>> Columbus, Ohio, suffocated in a Lane hope chest. Her mother, Mary,
>> discovered her body.
>>
>> “I opened it and I found her. And I screamed for [my husband] to call
>> 911,” said Mary.
>>
>> Robert Adler, Commissioner for the U.S. Consumer Products Safety
>> Commission, made a sobering prediction, “I'm very afraid that we will
>> see that happen. It's been happening on a regular basis since 1987.
>> There have been nine deaths, including the most recent two deaths. So
>> I'm very concerned that it may happen again.”
>
> I had no idea anyone or anything could suffocate inside a wooden box.
>
Uh... yeah. Especially if it was of good construction. Lane cedar
chests were always good construction. Pre-1987 Lane cedar chests had
automatic locks. Still, I was not allowed near the cedar chest. I knew
better than to try to open it, much less look at what was inside it,
without Mom being there with me. In fact, there were many places I
wasn't allowed, including near a hot stove with boiling pots. Just
sayin'.

Jill

On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 13:00:30 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 10/5/2014 12:23 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 09:50:34 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/5/2014 2:57 AM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 20:48:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> You're thinking of old refrigerators.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nope. Let me look it up for ya.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.lanefurniture.com/custome...placement.aspx
> >>>
> >>> Where are your statistics about children dying in them? They are not
> >>> air tight, so children and animals will not run out of oxygen.
> >>> Starving is another issue for animals. Kids will make enough noise to
> >>> be found.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Nope, kids have died. We had one local about a year ago. Here is one
> >> of them. Suffocating kids don't make a lot of noise, and often these
> >> chests are stored away from the daily family activity room.
> >>
> >> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014...ope-chest?lite
> >>
> >> Here is some statistics
> >> http://www.insideedition.com/investi...t-in-your-home
> >>
> >> You have to push a button on the outside of the chest to open it. But
> >> if a child climbs inside and the lid closes, there is no way out.
> >> Suffocation and death comes quickly.
> >>
> >> And it's not just little kids. Even 15-year-old Natalie Massarella, from
> >> Columbus, Ohio, suffocated in a Lane hope chest. Her mother, Mary,
> >> discovered her body.
> >>
> >> “I opened it and I found her. And I screamed for [my husband] to call
> >> 911,” said Mary.
> >>
> >> Robert Adler, Commissioner for the U.S. Consumer Products Safety
> >> Commission, made a sobering prediction, “I'm very afraid that we will
> >> see that happen. It's been happening on a regular basis since 1987.
> >> There have been nine deaths, including the most recent two deaths. So
> >> I'm very concerned that it may happen again.”
> >
> > I had no idea anyone or anything could suffocate inside a wooden box.
> >
> Uh... yeah. Especially if it was of good construction. Lane cedar
> chests were always good construction. Pre-1987 Lane cedar chests had
> automatic locks. Still, I was not allowed near the cedar chest. I knew
> better than to try to open it, much less look at what was inside it,
> without Mom being there with me. In fact, there were many places I
> wasn't allowed, including near a hot stove with boiling pots. Just
> sayin'.
>
My sister and I had 2 chests - bigger than the Lane variety, in our
bedroom from the time I was 7 or so years old and it never, not even
once, occurred to me to climb inside one to hide. Neither were we
ever warned not to. I'm still incredulous about suffocating inside
one, there are no seals and oxygen gets in no matter how well made
they supposedly are.


--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 13:00:30 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/5/2014 12:23 PM, sf wrote:
>> > On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 09:50:34 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 10/5/2014 2:57 AM, sf wrote:
>> >>> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 20:48:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>>> You're thinking of old refrigerators.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Nope. Let me look it up for ya.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://www.lanefurniture.com/custome...placement.aspx
>> >>>
>> >>> Where are your statistics about children dying in them? They are not
>> >>> air tight, so children and animals will not run out of oxygen.
>> >>> Starving is another issue for animals. Kids will make enough noise
>> >>> to
>> >>> be found.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Nope, kids have died. We had one local about a year ago. Here is one
>> >> of them. Suffocating kids don't make a lot of noise, and often these
>> >> chests are stored away from the daily family activity room.
>> >>
>> >> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014...ope-chest?lite
>> >>
>> >> Here is some statistics
>> >> http://www.insideedition.com/investi...t-in-your-home
>> >>
>> >> You have to push a button on the outside of the chest to open it.
>> >> But
>> >> if a child climbs inside and the lid closes, there is no way out.
>> >> Suffocation and death comes quickly.
>> >>
>> >> And it's not just little kids. Even 15-year-old Natalie Massarella,
>> >> from
>> >> Columbus, Ohio, suffocated in a Lane hope chest. Her mother, Mary,
>> >> discovered her body.
>> >>
>> >> "I opened it and I found her. And I screamed for [my husband] to call
>> >> 911," said Mary.
>> >>
>> >> Robert Adler, Commissioner for the U.S. Consumer Products Safety
>> >> Commission, made a sobering prediction, "I'm very afraid that we will
>> >> see that happen. It's been happening on a regular basis since 1987.
>> >> There have been nine deaths, including the most recent two deaths. So
>> >> I'm very concerned that it may happen again."
>> >
>> > I had no idea anyone or anything could suffocate inside a wooden box.
>> >
>> Uh... yeah. Especially if it was of good construction. Lane cedar
>> chests were always good construction. Pre-1987 Lane cedar chests had
>> automatic locks. Still, I was not allowed near the cedar chest. I knew
>> better than to try to open it, much less look at what was inside it,
>> without Mom being there with me. In fact, there were many places I
>> wasn't allowed, including near a hot stove with boiling pots. Just
>> sayin'.
>>
> My sister and I had 2 chests - bigger than the Lane variety, in our
> bedroom from the time I was 7 or so years old and it never, not even
> once, occurred to me to climb inside one to hide. Neither were we
> ever warned not to. I'm still incredulous about suffocating inside
> one, there are no seals and oxygen gets in no matter how well made
> they supposedly are.

The dance studio has two boxes that they use as side tables. Not sure what
they are made of. Probably not wood but made to look like it. Part of the
latch on the front is super sharp. I always worry that a little one will
bump their head into the sharp part or smash a finger. So far I don't think
that has happened but adults have gotten injured when backing into one if
the sharp part is sticking up. Kids are always trying to get inside to play
hide and seek but that is not allowed.

On 10/5/2014 2:01 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 13:00:30 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Uh... yeah. Especially if it was of good construction. Lane cedar
>> chests were always good construction. Pre-1987 Lane cedar chests had
>> automatic locks. Still, I was not allowed near the cedar chest. I knew
>> better than to try to open it, much less look at what was inside it,
>> without Mom being there with me. In fact, there were many places I
>> wasn't allowed, including near a hot stove with boiling pots. Just
>> sayin'.
>>
> My sister and I had 2 chests - bigger than the Lane variety, in our
> bedroom from the time I was 7 or so years old and it never, not even
> once, occurred to me to climb inside one to hide. Neither were we
> ever warned not to. I'm still incredulous about suffocating inside
> one, there are no seals and oxygen gets in no matter how well made
> they supposedly are.
>
>
I suppose it could happen. It never occurred to me to try to climb into
or hide in the cedar chest. That's where the good linens and things
like Mom's wedding dress were stored. It wasn't a "play" place. I knew
better. I never climbed into the trunk of a car, either. Who is stupid
enough to do that?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/5/2014 2:01 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 13:00:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Uh... yeah. Especially if it was of good construction. Lane cedar
>>> chests were always good construction. Pre-1987 Lane cedar chests had
>>> automatic locks. Still, I was not allowed near the cedar chest. I knew
>>> better than to try to open it, much less look at what was inside it,
>>> without Mom being there with me. In fact, there were many places I
>>> wasn't allowed, including near a hot stove with boiling pots. Just
>>> sayin'.
>>>
>> My sister and I had 2 chests - bigger than the Lane variety, in our
>> bedroom from the time I was 7 or so years old and it never, not even
>> once, occurred to me to climb inside one to hide. Neither were we
>> ever warned not to. I'm still incredulous about suffocating inside
>> one, there are no seals and oxygen gets in no matter how well made
>> they supposedly are.
>>
>>
> I suppose it could happen. It never occurred to me to try to climb into or
> hide in the cedar chest. That's where the good linens and things like
> Mom's wedding dress were stored. It wasn't a "play" place. I knew
> better. I never climbed into the trunk of a car, either. Who is stupid
> enough to do that?

My dad used to put us in the car trunk sometimes to get us out of the way.
He didn't shut it though.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/5/2014 12:23 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 09:50:34 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/5/2014 2:57 AM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 20:48:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> You're thinking of old refrigerators.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. Let me look it up for ya.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.lanefurniture.com/custome...placement.aspx
>>>>
>>>> Where are your statistics about children dying in them? They are not
>>>> air tight, so children and animals will not run out of oxygen.
>>>> Starving is another issue for animals. Kids will make enough noise to
>>>> be found.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, kids have died. We had one local about a year ago. Here is one
>>> of them. Suffocating kids don't make a lot of noise, and often these
>>> chests are stored away from the daily family activity room.
>>>
>>> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014...ope-chest?lite
>>>
>>> Here is some statistics
>>> http://www.insideedition.com/investi...t-in-your-home
>>>
>>> You have to push a button on the outside of the chest to open it. But
>>> if a child climbs inside and the lid closes, there is no way out.
>>> Suffocation and death comes quickly.
>>>
>>> And it's not just little kids. Even 15-year-old Natalie Massarella, from
>>> Columbus, Ohio, suffocated in a Lane hope chest. Her mother, Mary,
>>> discovered her body.
>>>
>>> “I opened it and I found her. And I screamed for [my husband] to call
>>> 911,” said Mary.
>>>
>>> Robert Adler, Commissioner for the U.S. Consumer Products Safety
>>> Commission, made a sobering prediction, “I'm very afraid that we will
>>> see that happen. It's been happening on a regular basis since 1987.
>>> There have been nine deaths, including the most recent two deaths. So
>>> I'm very concerned that it may happen again.”
>>
>> I had no idea anyone or anything could suffocate inside a wooden box.
>>
> Uh... yeah. Especially if it was of good construction. Lane cedar chests
> were always good construction. Pre-1987 Lane cedar chests had automatic
> locks. Still, I was not allowed near the cedar chest. I knew better than
> to try to open it, much less look at what was inside it, without Mom being
> there with me. In fact, there were many places I wasn't allowed,
> including near a hot stove with boiling pots. Just sayin'.
>
> Jill

I know that my friend would never let me near hers, nor let me see what was
inside.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 09:50:34 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 10/5/2014 2:57 AM, sf wrote:
>> > On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 20:48:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>
>>
>> >>> You're thinking of old refrigerators.
>> >>
>> >> Nope. Let me look it up for ya.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.lanefurniture.com/custome...placement.aspx
>> >
>> > Where are your statistics about children dying in them? They are not
>> > air tight, so children and animals will not run out of oxygen.
>> > Starving is another issue for animals. Kids will make enough noise to
>> > be found.
>> >
>>
>> Nope, kids have died. We had one local about a year ago. Here is one
>> of them. Suffocating kids don't make a lot of noise, and often these
>> chests are stored away from the daily family activity room.
>>
>> http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014...ope-chest?lite
>>
>> Here is some statistics
>> http://www.insideedition.com/investi...t-in-your-home
>>
>> You have to push a button on the outside of the chest to open it. But
>> if a child climbs inside and the lid closes, there is no way out.
>> Suffocation and death comes quickly.
>>
>> And it's not just little kids. Even 15-year-old Natalie Massarella, from
>> Columbus, Ohio, suffocated in a Lane hope chest. Her mother, Mary,
>> discovered her body.
>>
>> "I opened it and I found her. And I screamed for [my husband] to call
>> 911," said Mary.
>>
>> Robert Adler, Commissioner for the U.S. Consumer Products Safety
>> Commission, made a sobering prediction, "I'm very afraid that we will
>> see that happen. It's been happening on a regular basis since 1987.
>> There have been nine deaths, including the most recent two deaths. So
>> I'm very concerned that it may happen again."
>
> I had no idea anyone or anything could suffocate inside a wooden box.

Me either until I read that. But it had occurred to me that they were no
longer advertised like they were when I was a teen. They always had ads for
those and engagement ring stores in all of the teen magazines. Apparently
we were supposed to want those things.