I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. Kenmore manual defrost,
5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. So pretty new but no longer under
warranty. And I see in the owner's manual that it should be placed in a
room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year, my
garage is not! But it sure didn't do this last winter.

Had several weeks of freezing weather during which time the side facing the
garage door had really thick ice on it. So much so that it was around the
seal. I had to clean this off daily.

Then went out a few hours ago to get some White Castles. Noticed there was
no ice inside of it and some stuff was no longer frozen solid. On further
investigation, most of it no longer was. Bread dough was mushy. Decided it
would be best just to throw it all out. Luckily there wasn't a lot of food
in there. But it's still annoying, especially after I cut up all of those
onions and peppers.

Did what I read to do online and that was to unplug it and shut it off for
10 minutes. Plugged it back in and turned it back on. Got to -20 in a few
hours but... Not sure if it is going to continue to work.

Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost cause?

On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:43:01 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. Kenmore manual defrost,
>5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. So pretty new but no longer under
>warranty. And I see in the owner's manual that it should be placed in a
>room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year, my
>garage is not! But it sure didn't do this last winter.
>
>Had several weeks of freezing weather during which time the side facing the
>garage door had really thick ice on it. So much so that it was around the
>seal. I had to clean this off daily.
>
>Then went out a few hours ago to get some White Castles. Noticed there was
>no ice inside of it and some stuff was no longer frozen solid. On further
>investigation, most of it no longer was. Bread dough was mushy. Decided it
>would be best just to throw it all out. Luckily there wasn't a lot of food
>in there. But it's still annoying, especially after I cut up all of those
>onions and peppers.
>
>Did what I read to do online and that was to unplug it and shut it off for
>10 minutes. Plugged it back in and turned it back on. Got to -20 in a few
>hours but... Not sure if it is going to continue to work.
>
>Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost cause?

Sounds like the compressor is going, probably over heating.

A separate 5 cu ft freezer seems silly to me, I got a whole second
fridge-freezer and it has a 5 cu ft top freezer... for me the second
fridge is much more useful than the second freezer... my second unit
is no frills, works very well, it's in my basement. I paid $100 for
it second hand from an appliance store, came with a 90 day warranty
and free delivery, it's been operating perfectly for ten years.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in
:

> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
> cause?
>
>

If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I called
about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem several weeks
ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment yesterday and
rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what happens if my Sears
refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy another appliance from now.



--
"Where there's smoke there's toast!" Anon

On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:43:01 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. Kenmore manual defrost,
>5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. So pretty new but no longer under
>warranty. And I see in the owner's manual that it should be placed in a
>room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year, my
>garage is not! But it sure didn't do this last winter.
>
>Had several weeks of freezing weather during which time the side facing the
>garage door had really thick ice on it. So much so that it was around the
>seal. I had to clean this off daily.
>
>Then went out a few hours ago to get some White Castles. Noticed there was
>no ice inside of it and some stuff was no longer frozen solid. On further
>investigation, most of it no longer was. Bread dough was mushy. Decided it
>would be best just to throw it all out. Luckily there wasn't a lot of food
>in there. But it's still annoying, especially after I cut up all of those
>onions and peppers.
>
>Did what I read to do online and that was to unplug it and shut it off for
>10 minutes. Plugged it back in and turned it back on. Got to -20 in a few
>hours but... Not sure if it is going to continue to work.
>
>Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost cause?
>
I am quite disgusted with Sears Kenmore in it's current incarnations.
Possibly the ice wedged the lid up and allowed defrost- the compressor
probably has little reserve capacity. Defrost well and set a couple of
boxes of laundry detergent on the lid at the front corners to be
certain the gasket seals.
Just a thought but if you bought it with certain credit cards, they
will double the factory warranty.
Good luck.
--
Mr.E

On 6 Feb 2013 17:31:51 GMT, KenK > wrote:

>"Julie Bove" > wrote in
:
>
>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>> cause?
>>
>>
>
>If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I called
>about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem several weeks
>ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment yesterday and
>rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what happens if my Sears
>refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy another appliance from now.

Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
penny of the contents.
Janet US

Janet Bostwick > wrote in
:

> On 6 Feb 2013 17:31:51 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>
>>"Julie Bove" > wrote in
:
>>
>>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>>> cause?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I
>>called about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem
>>several weeks ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment
>>yesterday and rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what
>>happens if my Sears refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy
>>another appliance from now.
>
> Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
> refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
> penny of the contents.
> Janet US
>

Don't know. Hope I don't have to find out.




--
"Where there's smoke there's toast!" Anon

I not -I,

So, how long did it take you to eat all that food? What age was the oldest package in there?

This is why I never want an extra freezer to stockpile food. Heaven knows, we've had THAT thread a few times. I pity anyone who has to toss food due to a preservation malfunction.

Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> On 6 Feb 2013 17:31:51 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>
> >"Julie Bove" > wrote in
> :
> >
> >> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
> >> cause?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I called
> >about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem several weeks
> >ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment yesterday and
> >rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what happens if my Sears
> >refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy another appliance from now.
>
> Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
> refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
> penny of the contents.
> Janet US

The contents were more than your deductible???

On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 9:43:01 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. Kenmore manual defrost,
>
> 5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. So pretty new but no longer under
>
> warranty. And I see in the owner's manual that it should be placed in a
>
> room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year, my
>
> garage is not! But it sure didn't do this last winter.
>
>
>
> Had several weeks of freezing weather during which time the side facing the
>
> garage door had really thick ice on it. So much so that it was around the
>
> seal. I had to clean this off daily.
>
>
>
> Then went out a few hours ago to get some White Castles. Noticed there was
>
> no ice inside of it and some stuff was no longer frozen solid. On further
>
> investigation, most of it no longer was. Bread dough was mushy. Decided it
>
> would be best just to throw it all out. Luckily there wasn't a lot of food
>
> in there. But it's still annoying, especially after I cut up all of those
>
> onions and peppers.
>
>
>
> Did what I read to do online and that was to unplug it and shut it off for
>
> 10 minutes. Plugged it back in and turned it back on. Got to -20 in a few
>
> hours but... Not sure if it is going to continue to work.
>
>
>
> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost cause?

Hey Julie... I have the same problem, different refrig/freezer but same problem. If you have a refrig/freezer that you want to keep in the garage, you are better off buying an old one.

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:40:06 -0600, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
>Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> On 6 Feb 2013 17:31:51 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>>
>> >"Julie Bove" > wrote in
>> :
>> >
>> >> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>> >> cause?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I called
>> >about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem several weeks
>> >ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment yesterday and
>> >rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what happens if my Sears
>> >refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy another appliance from now.
>>
>> Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
>> refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
>> penny of the contents.
>> Janet US
>
>The contents were more than your deductible???

We didn't have a deductible. We have full replacement value. They
paid for the contents of the refrigerator and freezer(somewhere
between $500-$700 as I recall) and repair or replacement of the
refrigerator. I had lots of herbs that I had frozen as well as salmon
we had caught and other stuff. They told me to go to the grocery
store and just price everything out. They paid me without asking for
a list or anything. The lady on the phone was really nice and
helpful. We'd never used the insurance before and they didn't cancel
us.
Janet US

"Pete C." wrote:
>Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> On 6 Feb 2013 17:31:51 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>>
>> >"Julie Bove" > wrote in
>> :
>> >
>> >> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>> >> cause?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I called
>> >about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem several weeks
>> >ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment yesterday and
>> >rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what happens if my Sears
>> >refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy another appliance from now.
>>
>> Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
>> refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
>> penny of the contents.
>> Janet US
>
>The contents were more than your deductible???

Well, the freezer was ruined from the fire too, maybe exceeded the
deductible. But every home owner's policy in the US I've ever seen
covers only up to $50 for food spoiled in a fridge/freezer from power
outages, I don't know about food spoiled by fire but I suspect to
insurance companys food is food.

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. Kenmore manual defrost,
> 5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. So pretty new but no longer under
> warranty. And I see in the owner's manual that it should be placed in a
> room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year, my
> garage is not! But it sure didn't do this last winter.
>
> Had several weeks of freezing weather during which time the side facing the
> garage door had really thick ice on it. So much so that it was around the
> seal. I had to clean this off daily.
>
> Then went out a few hours ago to get some White Castles. Noticed there was
> no ice inside of it and some stuff was no longer frozen solid. On further
> investigation, most of it no longer was. Bread dough was mushy. Decided it
> would be best just to throw it all out. Luckily there wasn't a lot of food
> in there. But it's still annoying, especially after I cut up all of those
> onions and peppers.
>
> Did what I read to do online and that was to unplug it and shut it off for
> 10 minutes. Plugged it back in and turned it back on. Got to -20 in a few
> hours but... Not sure if it is going to continue to work.
>
> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost cause?

and you never thought that there was a reason that the freezer shouldn't
be subjected to temps lower than 55? perhaps you could do some research
to discover why you reaped the rewards of not following instructions

jwalrathwrote:
>Julie Bove wrote:
>> I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. Kenmore manual defrost,
>> 5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. So pretty new but no longer under
>> warranty. And I see in the owner's manual that it should be placed in a
>> room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year, my
>> garage is not! But it sure didn't do this last winter.
>> Had several weeks of freezing weather during which time the side facing the
>> garage door had really thick ice on it. So much so that it was around the
>> seal. I had to clean this off daily.
>> Then went out a few hours ago to get some White Castles. Noticed there was
>> no ice inside of it and some stuff was no longer frozen solid. On further
>> investigation, most of it no longer was. Bread dough was mushy. Decided it
>> would be best just to throw it all out. Luckily there wasn't a lot of food
>> in there. But it's still annoying, especially after I cut up all of those
>> onions and peppers.
>> Did what I read to do online and that was to unplug it and shut it off for
>> 10 minutes. Plugged it back in and turned it back on. Got to -20 in a few
>> hours but... Not sure if it is going to continue to work.
>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost cause?
>
>Hey Julie... I have the same problem, different refrig/freezer but same problem.
>If you have a refrig/freezer that you want to keep in the garage, you are better off buying an old one.

Most any fridge/freezer whether new or old will be damaged by
excessive cold... the oil in the compressor will gel and damage the
motor.

http://www.geappliances.com/search/f...e/10000320.htm
Cold Temperatures:

We do not recommend installing a refrigerator where temperatures will
go below 60 degrees Fahrenheit. At this temperature, the unit is less
efficient and will continue to lose efficiency as the outdoor
temperature decreases. At 32 degrees, there is no cooling capability
at all.

Note: It is not recommended that refrigerators be used in unheated
locations, such as garages, porches, or unheated rooms during periods
when the temperature is likely to fall below 60 degrees Fahrenheit.

Hot temperatures:

We do not recommend installing a refrigerator where the temperature
will exceed 110 degrees Fahrenheit.

Note: There is a possibility that operating the refrigerator in
extremely high temperature could cause the oil to overheat and break
down, thus damaging the compressor or sealed system.

There is a possibility that some harm could come to the compressor or
sealed system by operating the refrigerator at temperature extremes.
Below 32 degrees Fahrenheit, the oil could become thick and not
circulate properly. Above 110 degrees Fahrenheit, the oil could
overheat and break down.

Refrigeration systems rely on the boiling of freon under pressure and
heat. If the outside temperature is not sufficient, the freon will not
boil to a vapor and no cooling will take place. Low temperatures can
also fool the thermostat into thinking proper temperatures have been
reached. This is true of the new CFC-free refrigerants as well.

On 2/6/2013 12:31 PM, KenK wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> :
>
>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>> cause?
>>
>>
>
> If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I called
> about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem several weeks
> ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment yesterday and
> rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what happens if my Sears
> refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy another appliance from now.
>
>
>
Seems to me it was Julie who just posted a few days ago about many Sears
and KMart locations shutting down. She shouldn't expect much in the way
of service response. That's why the business is failing.

Jill

On 2/6/2013 12:59 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On 6 Feb 2013 17:31:51 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>>> cause?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I called
>> about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem several weeks
>> ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment yesterday and
>> rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what happens if my Sears
>> refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy another appliance from now.
>
> Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
> refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
> penny of the contents.
> Janet US
>
No. Home warranty policies might cover something like that. It's a
separate insurance policy.

Jill

Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
> refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
> penny of the contents.

I'm sure homeowners insurance would cover it.....after whatever deductible
was met.

Gary

Janet Bostwick wrote:
>

> We didn't have a deductible. We have full replacement value.

Full replacement value is a good insurance to pay a little extra for. I
have full replacement renter's insurance and I can replace all of my things
regardless of age or wear.

Gary

On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:43:01 AM UTC-8, Julie Bove wrote:
> I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing.....And I see in the
> owner's manual that it should be placed in a
> room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year, my
> garage is not! ....

Why would you have a 5.0 cu. ft. freezer? That's tiny.

> Had several weeks of freezing weather during which time the side facing the
> garage door had really thick ice on it. ....

When we lived where there was real winter we often stored food on the frozen back porch, i.e., outside in the cold. But we never put appliances out there.

If it returns to working order you're lucky. Move the freezer inside the house.
-aem

aem wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:43:01 AM UTC-8, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing.....And I see in the
>> owner's manual that it should be placed in a
>> room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year, my
>> garage is not! ....
>
> Why would you have a 5.0 cu. ft. freezer? That's tiny.

I've had one for about six years - right now there's a salmon, a boneless
pork loin, half a pack of frozen chicken patties, at least three loaves of
bread, a box of that spongebob gogurt crap, two six-packs of muffins, and
various misc. other items like butter and it's not even 3/4 full. Most of
what goes in there came from costco. The fridge freezer is close to full,
probably half bready stuff, some frozen chicken nuggets, ice cubes ... not
a lot of room in that one.

Here's what it looked like in November -- a lot like it looks now -- no,
not the same exact stuff -- the food does get eaten.

http://ftupet.com/~tert/img/misc/mis...y/IMG_2131.JPG

In article >,
tert in seattle > wrote:

> Here's what it looked like in November -- a lot like it looks now -- no,
> not the same exact stuff -- the food does get eaten.

Fisherman or two in the family? In my archaic vocabulary, that includes
women.

leo

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >,
> tert in seattle > wrote:
>
>> Here's what it looked like in November -- a lot like it looks now -- no,
>> not the same exact stuff -- the food does get eaten.
>
> Fisherman or two in the family? In my archaic vocabulary, that includes
> women.
>
> leo

no we buy those -- you don't have to look too hard around here to find them

"l not -l" > wrote in message
...
>
> On 6-Feb-2013, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. Kenmore manual
>> defrost,
>> 5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. So pretty new but no longer
>> under
>> warranty.
>
> I have a circa 1960 Philco upright freezer you can have; pick-up in St.
> Louis. 8-)
>
> It belonged to my parents; both are gone now and I have finally used up
> Mom's stock-pile of frozen goods.

That's a tad far away from me now. Did go there a lot as a kid.

I am thinking now that it was some sort of electrical issue. I say this
because this afternoon I noticed that my computer had shut off. Then when I
went into the kitchen, the clock on the stove indicated a power failure but
the new microwave did not. This has happened on occasion before. But I
suspect now that it has something to do with the workers next door.

Also weird is that someone shut the gate. We probably just need a new fence
but nobody wants to build one so my husband, the gardener and the guys next
door have been replacing it section by section as they blow over in the
wind. The portion where the gate is, has gotten pretty decrepit (it's wood)
as has the latch. So some weeks ago the gardener propped it open with a
large rock. We just left it like that because it has gotten really hard to
make it latch. So someone went back there, moved the rock and shut and
latched the gate! It wasn't the gardener because he doesn't come till
tomorrow. I have no clue who else would have gone back there. Terminix
came a week or two ago and we have no other workers at the moment. Perhaps
a meter reader? But I think the meters are all at the front of the house.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:43:01 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. Kenmore manual
>>defrost,
>>5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. So pretty new but no longer under
>>warranty. And I see in the owner's manual that it should be placed in a
>>room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year, my
>>garage is not! But it sure didn't do this last winter.
>>
>>Had several weeks of freezing weather during which time the side facing
>>the
>>garage door had really thick ice on it. So much so that it was around the
>>seal. I had to clean this off daily.
>>
>>Then went out a few hours ago to get some White Castles. Noticed there
>>was
>>no ice inside of it and some stuff was no longer frozen solid. On further
>>investigation, most of it no longer was. Bread dough was mushy. Decided
>>it
>>would be best just to throw it all out. Luckily there wasn't a lot of
>>food
>>in there. But it's still annoying, especially after I cut up all of those
>>onions and peppers.
>>
>>Did what I read to do online and that was to unplug it and shut it off for
>>10 minutes. Plugged it back in and turned it back on. Got to -20 in a
>>few
>>hours but... Not sure if it is going to continue to work.
>>
>>Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost cause?
>
> Sounds like the compressor is going, probably over heating.
>
> A separate 5 cu ft freezer seems silly to me, I got a whole second
> fridge-freezer and it has a 5 cu ft top freezer... for me the second
> fridge is much more useful than the second freezer... my second unit
> is no frills, works very well, it's in my basement. I paid $100 for
> it second hand from an appliance store, came with a 90 day warranty
> and free delivery, it's been operating perfectly for ten years.

I don't have room for an upright. Our garage is very tiny. Too small to
park a car in, unless perhaps it is a Smart Car. And even those might be
too wide for the door. The former owners put shelves up on the wall and
there is enough space underneath for a small freezer. Daughter and I don't
really even need it for ourselves. I bought it for my husband. He goes
through ice cream and frozen treats so rapidly that I was having to go to
the store once or twice a day and that got old in a hurry.

It is nice to be able to stock up on things when they are on sale, but
overall we don't eat a lot of frozen foods.

"KenK" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> :
>
>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>> cause?
>>
>>
>
> If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I called
> about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem several weeks
> ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment yesterday and
> rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what happens if my Sears
> refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy another appliance from now.

Sadly I do have to call on my LG washer. Have put it off because I know
what a PITA they are. I just got a recall on it.

I grew up with Kenmore appliances. Everyone I know says the same thing
about them. They're great because the repair people always come out right
away! To me, if they were great, you wouldn't need the repair person.

I am thinking since the total price was like $160, a repair wouldn't even be
worthwhile.

If I do have to buy another, I will likely buy a smaller one still. One
grocery store here has them on sale and you get $170 in coupons when you buy
one.

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On 6 Feb 2013 17:31:51 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>
>>"Julie Bove" > wrote in
:
>>
>>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>>> cause?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I called
>>about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem several weeks
>>ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment yesterday and
>>rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what happens if my Sears
>>refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy another appliance from now.
>
> Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
> refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
> penny of the contents.
> Janet US

Only if you can prove what you paid for the food. Who keeps receipts on
that? I don't. We lost a full fridge and freezer worth of food when we
were in NY due to that week long power failure.

The good thing is that there wasn't much in there and some of what was in
there was gotten with coupons so I didn't pay much for it.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
>> refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
>> penny of the contents.
>
> I'm sure homeowners insurance would cover it.....after whatever deductible
> was met.

Wouldn't even bother. There was maybe $50 OOP if that.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/6/2013 12:31 PM, KenK wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>>> cause?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I called
>> about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem several
>> weeks
>> ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment yesterday and
>> rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what happens if my Sears
>> refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy another appliance from now.
>>
>>
>>
> Seems to me it was Julie who just posted a few days ago about many Sears
> and KMart locations shutting down. She shouldn't expect much in the way
> of service response. That's why the business is failing.

Yes. The K Mart where I worked is shutting down in March. No word on the
Sears near it but oddly they just opened a Sears Appliance store near here.
Something like 100 of them will shut down in the next 3 years.

"Mr.E" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:43:01 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. Kenmore manual
>>defrost,
>>5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. So pretty new but no longer under
>>warranty. And I see in the owner's manual that it should be placed in a
>>room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year, my
>>garage is not! But it sure didn't do this last winter.
>>
>>Had several weeks of freezing weather during which time the side facing
>>the
>>garage door had really thick ice on it. So much so that it was around the
>>seal. I had to clean this off daily.
>>
>>Then went out a few hours ago to get some White Castles. Noticed there
>>was
>>no ice inside of it and some stuff was no longer frozen solid. On further
>>investigation, most of it no longer was. Bread dough was mushy. Decided
>>it
>>would be best just to throw it all out. Luckily there wasn't a lot of
>>food
>>in there. But it's still annoying, especially after I cut up all of those
>>onions and peppers.
>>
>>Did what I read to do online and that was to unplug it and shut it off for
>>10 minutes. Plugged it back in and turned it back on. Got to -20 in a
>>few
>>hours but... Not sure if it is going to continue to work.
>>
>>Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost cause?
>>
> I am quite disgusted with Sears Kenmore in it's current incarnations.
> Possibly the ice wedged the lid up and allowed defrost- the compressor
> probably has little reserve capacity. Defrost well and set a couple of
> boxes of laundry detergent on the lid at the front corners to be
> certain the gasket seals.
> Just a thought but if you bought it with certain credit cards, they
> will double the factory warranty.
> Good luck.
> --
> Mr.E

No credit card. Paid cash.

> wrote in message
...
>
> Hey Julie... I have the same problem, different refrig/freezer but same
> problem. If you have a refrig/freezer that you want to keep in the
> garage, you are better off buying an old one.

Well it was fine for a year and a half. Seems fine now. Am seriously
thinking that somehow the power got interrupted. I don't know how they all
work but with this model if the power goes off even briefly, it will shut
off. You have to unplug it, manually shut it off, wait about ten minutes
then plug it back in and turn it on.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> jwalrathwrote:
>>Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. Kenmore manual
>>> defrost,
>>> 5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. So pretty new but no longer under
>>> warranty. And I see in the owner's manual that it should be placed in a
>>> room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year,
>>> my
>>> garage is not! But it sure didn't do this last winter.
>>> Had several weeks of freezing weather during which time the side facing
>>> the
>>> garage door had really thick ice on it. So much so that it was around
>>> the
>>> seal. I had to clean this off daily.
>>> Then went out a few hours ago to get some White Castles. Noticed there
>>> was
>>> no ice inside of it and some stuff was no longer frozen solid. On
>>> further
>>> investigation, most of it no longer was. Bread dough was mushy.
>>> Decided it
>>> would be best just to throw it all out. Luckily there wasn't a lot of
>>> food
>>> in there. But it's still annoying, especially after I cut up all of
>>> those
>>> onions and peppers.
>>> Did what I read to do online and that was to unplug it and shut it off
>>> for
>>> 10 minutes. Plugged it back in and turned it back on. Got to -20 in a
>>> few
>>> hours but... Not sure if it is going to continue to work.
>>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>>> cause?
>>
>>Hey Julie... I have the same problem, different refrig/freezer but same
>>problem.
>>If you have a refrig/freezer that you want to keep in the garage, you are
>>better off buying an old one.
>
> Most any fridge/freezer whether new or old will be damaged by
> excessive cold... the oil in the compressor will gel and damage the
> motor.
>
> http://www.geappliances.com/search/f...e/10000320.htm
> Cold Temperatures:
>
> We do not recommend installing a refrigerator where temperatures will
> go below 60 degrees Fahrenheit. At this temperature, the unit is less
> efficient and will continue to lose efficiency as the outdoor
> temperature decreases. At 32 degrees, there is no cooling capability
> at all.
>
> Note: It is not recommended that refrigerators be used in unheated
> locations, such as garages, porches, or unheated rooms during periods
> when the temperature is likely to fall below 60 degrees Fahrenheit.
>
> Hot temperatures:
>
> We do not recommend installing a refrigerator where the temperature
> will exceed 110 degrees Fahrenheit.
>
> Note: There is a possibility that operating the refrigerator in
> extremely high temperature could cause the oil to overheat and break
> down, thus damaging the compressor or sealed system.
>
> There is a possibility that some harm could come to the compressor or
> sealed system by operating the refrigerator at temperature extremes.
> Below 32 degrees Fahrenheit, the oil could become thick and not
> circulate properly. Above 110 degrees Fahrenheit, the oil could
> overheat and break down.
>
> Refrigeration systems rely on the boiling of freon under pressure and
> heat. If the outside temperature is not sufficient, the freon will not
> boil to a vapor and no cooling will take place. Low temperatures can
> also fool the thermostat into thinking proper temperatures have been
> reached. This is true of the new CFC-free refrigerants as well.

Thanks!

"aem" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:43:01 AM UTC-8, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing.....And I see in the
>> owner's manual that it should be placed in a
>> room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year,
>> my
>> garage is not! ....
>
> Why would you have a 5.0 cu. ft. freezer? That's tiny.

Yes. I wanted tiny. Mainly just wanted it so that I didn't have to go to
the store daily or twice daily for treats for my husband. And maybe to be
able to stock up on a few things when on sale or get something bigger than
what would fit in my side by side Like a frozen pizza.
>
>> Had several weeks of freezing weather during which time the side facing
>> the
>> garage door had really thick ice on it. ....
>
> When we lived where there was real winter we often stored food on the
> frozen back porch, i.e., outside in the cold. But we never put appliances
> out there.
>
> If it returns to working order you're lucky. Move the freezer inside the
> house.

No place to put it in the house and no way to get it in here.

On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 19:21:15 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
> > refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
> > penny of the contents.
> > Janet US
>
> Only if you can prove what you paid for the food. Who keeps receipts on
> that? I don't. We lost a full fridge and freezer worth of food when we
> were in NY due to that week long power failure.
>
> The good thing is that there wasn't much in there and some of what was in
> there was gotten with coupons so I didn't pay much for it.
>
I don't know anything about how home owners insurance works, but I did
buy an extended warranty on a freezer that went kaput within the
allotted time and all they wanted was an estimate of value. They
didn't give me any trouble at all.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 19:21:15 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>>
>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
>> > refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
>> > penny of the contents.
>> > Janet US
>>
>> Only if you can prove what you paid for the food. Who keeps receipts on
>> that? I don't. We lost a full fridge and freezer worth of food when we
>> were in NY due to that week long power failure.
>>
>> The good thing is that there wasn't much in there and some of what was in
>> there was gotten with coupons so I didn't pay much for it.
>>
> I don't know anything about how home owners insurance works, but I did
> buy an extended warranty on a freezer that went kaput within the
> allotted time and all they wanted was an estimate of value. They
> didn't give me any trouble at all.

Hmm... I know when we lived in NY they said we had to prove what we paid.
The really annoying thing is that I did have the receipt since I had just
bought it all but then they told me this *after* I put it in the trash. And
I wasn't about to sort through all the trash from all those apartments
looking for it.

I'm going to look for a freezer alarm. If they don't cost too much I'll get
one. Supposed to alert you when the temp gets too high.

On Feb 6, 9:43*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. *Kenmore manual defrost,
> 5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. *So pretty new but no longer under
> warranty. *And I see in the owner's manual that it should be placed in a
> room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year, my
> garage is not! *But it sure didn't do this last winter.
>
> Had several weeks of freezing weather during which time the side facing the
> garage door had really thick ice on it. *So much so that it was around the
> seal. *I had to clean this off daily.
>
> Then went out a few hours ago to get some White Castles. *Noticed there was
> no ice inside of it and some stuff was no longer frozen solid. *On further
> investigation, most of it no longer was. *Bread dough was mushy. *Decided it
> would be best just to throw it all out. *Luckily there wasn't a lot of food
> in there. *But it's still annoying, especially after I cut up all of those
> onions and peppers.
>
> Did what I read to do online and that was to unplug it and shut it off for
> 10 minutes. *Plugged it back in and turned it back on. *Got to -20 in a few
> hours but... *Not sure if it is going to continue to work.
>
> Anyone else had something similar happen? *Do you think it's a lost cause?

Um, you eat White Castles? Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh......

What the hell are you using a freezer for? You and your wierd sprog
can't eat anything. But_you_eat_White_Castles. Yeahhhhhhhhhhh.....

On Feb 6, 11:59*am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> On 6 Feb 2013 17:31:51 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>
> >"Julie Bove" > wrote in
> :
>
> >> Anyone else had something similar happen? *Do you think it's a lost
> >> cause?
>
> >If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I called
> >about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem several weeks
> >ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment yesterday and
> >rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what happens if my Sears
> >refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy another appliance from now.
>
> Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? *When my
> refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
> penny of the contents.
> Janet US

LOL she's going to put in a homeowner's insurance claim over a lousy
deep-freeze with some chopped onions and bread dough (thought she was
allergic to gluten?).....LOL!!

"projectile vomit chick" > wrote in message
...
On Feb 6, 9:43 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. Kenmore manual defrost,
> 5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. So pretty new but no longer under
> warranty. And I see in the owner's manual that it should be placed in a
> room that is between 55 and 110 degrees which at this time of the year, my
> garage is not! But it sure didn't do this last winter.
>
> Had several weeks of freezing weather during which time the side facing
> the
> garage door had really thick ice on it. So much so that it was around the
> seal. I had to clean this off daily.
>
> Then went out a few hours ago to get some White Castles. Noticed there was
> no ice inside of it and some stuff was no longer frozen solid. On further
> investigation, most of it no longer was. Bread dough was mushy. Decided it
> would be best just to throw it all out. Luckily there wasn't a lot of food
> in there. But it's still annoying, especially after I cut up all of those
> onions and peppers.
>
> Did what I read to do online and that was to unplug it and shut it off for
> 10 minutes. Plugged it back in and turned it back on. Got to -20 in a few
> hours but... Not sure if it is going to continue to work.
>
> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost cause?

Um, you eat White Castles? Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh......

What the hell are you using a freezer for? You and your wierd sprog
can't eat anything. But_you_eat_White_Castles. Yeahhhhhhhhhhh.....

Nothing in a White Castle that I can't eat. I don't particularly like them
but they do make a quick snack.

projectile vomit chick wrote:
> On Feb 6, 11:59 am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>> On 6 Feb 2013 17:31:51 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>>> :
>>
>>>> Anyone else had something similar happen? Do you think it's a lost
>>>> cause?
>>
>>> If you call Sears repair expect a lot of grief and poor service. I
>>> called about a ten-month-old combination MW/convection oven problem
>>> several weeks ago. They broke the third straight repair appointment
>>> yesterday and rebooked for next Monday. I hate to think of what
>>> happens if my Sears refrigerator fails. Guess who I'll never buy
>>> another appliance from now.
>>
>> Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
>> refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
>> penny of the contents.
>> Janet US
>
> LOL she's going to put in a homeowner's insurance claim over a lousy
> deep-freeze with some chopped onions and bread dough (thought she was
> allergic to gluten?).....LOL!!

I'm not allergic to anything. Never had a problem with gluten. Daughter
did but doesn't now. And there is gluten free bread.

On 7/02/2013 3:56 AM, l not -l wrote:
> On 6-Feb-2013, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. Kenmore manual
>> defrost,
>> 5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. So pretty new but no longer
>> under
>> warranty.
>
> I have a circa 1960 Philco upright freezer you can have; pick-up in St.
> Louis. 8-)
>
> It belonged to my parents; both are gone now and I have finally used up
> Mom's stock-pile of frozen goods.
>
Our 1981 vintage kevinator refridgerator is still going fine. Never ever
had to get it repaired in all the time we've had it. I'm told the new
ones are much more efficient, so save on electricity, but they are lucky
to last 10 years. Guess we'll keep this one until it expires.

--

Krypsis

On 7/02/2013 2:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "l not -l" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> On 6-Feb-2013, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know what is wrong with the blasted thing. Kenmore manual
>>> defrost,
>>> 5.0 cu.ft. purchased in June of 2011. So pretty new but no longer
>>> under
>>> warranty.
>>
>> I have a circa 1960 Philco upright freezer you can have; pick-up in St.
>> Louis. 8-)
>>
>> It belonged to my parents; both are gone now and I have finally used up
>> Mom's stock-pile of frozen goods.
>
> That's a tad far away from me now. Did go there a lot as a kid.
>
> I am thinking now that it was some sort of electrical issue. I say this
> because this afternoon I noticed that my computer had shut off. Then when I
> went into the kitchen, the clock on the stove indicated a power failure but
> the new microwave did not. This has happened on occasion before. But I
> suspect now that it has something to do with the workers next door.

A lot of appliances now are equipped with a processor, effectively a
computer. They can become upset with little power surges/outages that
don't seem to affect anything else. They need to be "rebooted" when this
happens. By shutting it off for a few minutes, you effectively rebooted
the device.
>
> Also weird is that someone shut the gate. We probably just need a new fence
> but nobody wants to build one so my husband, the gardener and the guys next
> door have been replacing it section by section as they blow over in the
> wind. The portion where the gate is, has gotten pretty decrepit (it's wood)
> as has the latch. So some weeks ago the gardener propped it open with a
> large rock. We just left it like that because it has gotten really hard to
> make it latch. So someone went back there, moved the rock and shut and
> latched the gate! It wasn't the gardener because he doesn't come till
> tomorrow. I have no clue who else would have gone back there. Terminix
> came a week or two ago and we have no other workers at the moment. Perhaps
> a meter reader? But I think the meters are all at the front of the house.
>
>


--

Krypsis

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:59:38 -0700, Janet Bostwick >
wrote:

>Doesn't Home Owner's Insurance cover stuff like that? When my
>refrigerator had a fire in the freezer, home owner's covered every
>penny of the contents.
>Janet US

a fire in the freezer.......
did not know that was possible.....