"Gus" > wrote in message
...
> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 10:59:18 -0400, "Gus" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I had some red hot Blue Chips with hummus, and hot salsa.
>>
>> I've been adding some pepperoni to my Monk's Breakfast of beans and
>> rice with chopped ham, and it's fabulous! :-)
>>
>> I'm sure Andy would approve! :-)
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
>
> Anyone have Andy's addy? He might appreciate this.
>
> I've been eating a lot of black beans lately. I kind of like them with
> cottage cheese and hot salsa, and few chips... This morning, I'm feeling
> like a salad for breakfast. But that may be too weird.

Um... Sure.

12345 Flintstone Lane, Heaven.

In article om>,
says...
>
> On 6/29/2014 2:44 PM, Gus wrote:

> > I had a colonoscopy few weeks ago... The prep was not pleasant.

There are various preps, if you get it done again ask for one used
in elderly and sick patients. This was a great tip I got from my
attending nurse in the recovery room and I've done it ever since. Much
easier.

Haven't
> > felt right since.

The prep flushed out all the colon flora that digest what's passing
through it. I replace the population afterwards by drinking a little
pot of probiotic every day (brand names here are Yakult and Activia, in
any supermarket). Drink lots of water and eat a light diet for a day or
two. I've never had any after effects.

Apparently this is the opposite of US advice

http://www.gutsense.org/crc/ccp_colon_ecology.html

Janet UK

In article >,
says...
>
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 20:33:40 -0500, "MaryL"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >"Gus" wrote in message ...
> >I had some red hot Blue Chips with hummus, and hot salsa.
> >~~~~~
> >My typical breakfast would probably bore most of you, and it's what I had
> >this morning--Old Fashioned oatmeal, no sugar, a handful of fresh
> >blueberries on the oatmeal (some mornings I use fresh strawberries or
> >bananas), and plain yogurt on the oatmeal instead of milk.
>
> Sounds good to me, nothing boring about that.
> Never thought or tried using yoghurt. Do you add a fair bit of water
> to it since you use no milk?

in summer I often make a delicious breakfast smoothie : a sliced
banana, a dessert spoonful of dry porrige oats (rolled Quaker sort),
half a cup (ish) of orange juice and same of plain yoghurt, 1 teaspoon
of malt extract. Whizz everything in smoothie maker jug till smooth and
drink.

Janet UK

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article om>,
> says...
>>
>> On 6/29/2014 2:44 PM, Gus wrote:
>
>> > I had a colonoscopy few weeks ago... The prep was not pleasant.
>
> There are various preps, if you get it done again ask for one used
> in elderly and sick patients. This was a great tip I got from my
> attending nurse in the recovery room and I've done it ever since. Much
> easier.
>
> Haven't
>> > felt right since.
>
> The prep flushed out all the colon flora that digest what's
> passing
> through it. I replace the population afterwards by drinking a little
> pot of probiotic every day (brand names here are Yakult and Activia,
> in
> any supermarket). Drink lots of water and eat a light diet for a day
> or
> two. I've never had any after effects.
>
> Apparently this is the opposite of US advice
>
> http://www.gutsense.org/crc/ccp_colon_ecology.html
>
> Janet UK

I had some probiotic drink the other week. It was actually very good.
Was blueberry. Maybe I should get some more.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

> I had it done too and reading the horror stories was far worse than
> the prep itself. Agree with you on the food thing. Wasn't really
> hungry at all. And I learned that vegetable broth tastes far better
> than beef broth.

I was very glad I had cooked some broccoli, and potatoes earlier in the
week and had saved the broth.


> I would recommend Depends or something like that. I was wrong in
> predicting the timing of when I might need the toilet and made the
> mistake of coming in to check my email. Didn't actually get that far.
> Heh.
>
> I was also freaking out that the urge to go would hit on the way to
> the hospital because the instructions said that could happen. It
> didn't.

yes, same thing. By that time, there was nothing left (apparently).
But I was concerned and anxious. I actually didn't even go for last 12
hours before going to the doctor. Went enough before then.


> In my case, something was found. Tumors I think. On my right side.
> They were innocuous but... That was the very spot where I had been
> having pain and cramping ever since I was pregnant. I found that I
> could not bend over, especially from a seated position without getting
> painful cramps there. I kept saying that it felt like something was
> getting hung up on something else inside of me. Well, it was!
> Anyway... The Dr. removed them and there have been no more problems
> like that.

Good!

polyp(s) probably. Many people have them, but my dad apparently passed
on some very good genes to his kids. So I was clean, brother too though
my sister had some pre cancerous ones that could have turned and they
removed.

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article om>,
> says...
>>
>> On 6/29/2014 2:44 PM, Gus wrote:
>
>> > I had a colonoscopy few weeks ago... The prep was not pleasant.
>
> There are various preps, if you get it done again ask for one used
> in elderly and sick patients. This was a great tip I got from my
> attending nurse in the recovery room and I've done it ever since. Much
> easier.
>
> Haven't
>> > felt right since.
>
> The prep flushed out all the colon flora that digest what's passing
> through it. I replace the population afterwards by drinking a little
> pot of probiotic every day (brand names here are Yakult and Activia, in
> any supermarket). Drink lots of water and eat a light diet for a day or
> two. I've never had any after effects.
>
> Apparently this is the opposite of US advice
>
> http://www.gutsense.org/crc/ccp_colon_ecology.html

Oh! Now you think we have just one colonoscopy prep here? No. What I did
was not at all what my friend just had to do and we go to the same medical
facility but in different cities. There are different preps done depending
on why the colonoscopy is being doing and also depending on what other
medical conditions people have.

I don't know who runs that site that you posted but it lists disbiosis.
That is a very real but also very rare medical condition. And not one that
is likely to come about simply from taking a course of antibiotics.

Our Drs. (not just US Drs. but the specific ones that we see) do recommend
probiotics and I was put on them during my second hospital stay. I was put
on them far too late as the fungal and yeast infections had already set in.
Not to the point of disbiosis though.

We also know now that the role of the appendix is to put out natural
probiotics as needed. So anyone who has had theirs removed should take
probiotics all the time. There are also many different types of probiotics,
some more effective than others.

I read a book all about probiotics a few months ago. It said if you were
taking them, you likely weren't taking enough. We take them twice a day
now, to make sure we are getting enough. When I came from the hospital, I
was taking them three times a day and I continued that for a couple of
months.

On 6/30/2014 5:24 AM, Gus wrote:
> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 10:59:18 -0400, "Gus" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I had some red hot Blue Chips with hummus, and hot salsa.
>>
>> I've been adding some pepperoni to my Monk's Breakfast of beans and
>> rice with chopped ham, and it's fabulous! :-)
>>
>> I'm sure Andy would approve! :-)
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
>
> Anyone have Andy's addy? He might appreciate this.
>
He's dead.

> I've been eating a lot of black beans lately. I kind of like them with
> cottage cheese and hot salsa, and few chips... This morning, I'm
> feeling like a salad for breakfast. But that may be too weird.
>

It's food. If you feel like eating salad, eat a salad.

Jill

On 2014-06-30 8:53 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/30/2014 5:24 AM, Gus wrote:
>> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 10:59:18 -0400, "Gus" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had some red hot Blue Chips with hummus, and hot salsa.
>>>
>>> I've been adding some pepperoni to my Monk's Breakfast of beans and
>>> rice with chopped ham, and it's fabulous! :-)
>>>
>>> I'm sure Andy would approve! :-)
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>>
>> Anyone have Andy's addy? He might appreciate this.
>>
> He's dead.

Is he? Or has he adapted a new username?

On 6/29/2014 8:26 PM, Gus wrote:
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
> eb.com...
>
>> Lots of docs use propophol (sp) the stuff Michael Jackson's doc OD'd
>> him on. It is good stuff.
>
> I think that was the stuff... It was pretty amazing. Anesthesiologist
> earned their money. I should have asked for some to go.

I did but they wouldn't give it to me :-)


--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 23:23:05 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 6/29/2014 10:57 PM, Gus wrote:
>>
>> If anyone over 50 is reading, go ahead and have this done... You get to
>> fart at will after. It is worth it, just for that. And finding out
>> your colon health. It is a preventable cancer, caught early.
>
>My sister was diagnosed with colorectal cancer 2 years ago. She was
>declared "cured" after 1 year of chemo, radiation and surgery. It has
>since metastasized so it is important to catch it early. I had to have
>my colonoscopy before age 50 because of the family connection, plus my
>father died 5 years ago after esophageal cancer.
>
>It really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Yes, the prep is
>the worst but it's only 24 hours out of your life to possibly save your
>life.

I haven't a clue what 'prep' you folks are talking about. You take
some medicine to help clean you out, you fast, you go to the doctor.
Get on a table, nurse gives you a shot, turns you on your side. Then
nothing. You wake up, everything thing is over. That was the biggest
non-event of my life.
Janet US

On 6/30/2014 9:54 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 23:23:05 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/29/2014 10:57 PM, Gus wrote:
>>>
>>> If anyone over 50 is reading, go ahead and have this done... You get to
>>> fart at will after. It is worth it, just for that. And finding out
>>> your colon health. It is a preventable cancer, caught early.
>>
>> My sister was diagnosed with colorectal cancer 2 years ago. She was
>> declared "cured" after 1 year of chemo, radiation and surgery. It has
>> since metastasized so it is important to catch it early. I had to have
>> my colonoscopy before age 50 because of the family connection, plus my
>> father died 5 years ago after esophageal cancer.
>>
>> It really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Yes, the prep is
>> the worst but it's only 24 hours out of your life to possibly save your
>> life.
>
> I haven't a clue what 'prep' you folks are talking about. You take
> some medicine to help clean you out, you fast, you go to the doctor.
> Get on a table, nurse gives you a shot, turns you on your side. Then
> nothing. You wake up, everything thing is over. That was the biggest
> non-event of my life.
> Janet US
>
They didn't knock me out; it HURT! I was crying in pain the entire time.

Jill

On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:14:53 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 6/30/2014 9:54 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 23:23:05 -0400, Cheryl >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/29/2014 10:57 PM, Gus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If anyone over 50 is reading, go ahead and have this done... You get to
>>>> fart at will after. It is worth it, just for that. And finding out
>>>> your colon health. It is a preventable cancer, caught early.
>>>
>>> My sister was diagnosed with colorectal cancer 2 years ago. She was
>>> declared "cured" after 1 year of chemo, radiation and surgery. It has
>>> since metastasized so it is important to catch it early. I had to have
>>> my colonoscopy before age 50 because of the family connection, plus my
>>> father died 5 years ago after esophageal cancer.
>>>
>>> It really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Yes, the prep is
>>> the worst but it's only 24 hours out of your life to possibly save your
>>> life.
>>
>> I haven't a clue what 'prep' you folks are talking about. You take
>> some medicine to help clean you out, you fast, you go to the doctor.
>> Get on a table, nurse gives you a shot, turns you on your side. Then
>> nothing. You wake up, everything thing is over. That was the biggest
>> non-event of my life.
>> Janet US
>>
>They didn't knock me out; it HURT! I was crying in pain the entire time.
>
>Jill

I'm sorry. I had one in my twenties that was painful and awful. The
cleaning out was an assault to the body only exceeded in pain by the
examination itself. I'm so glad they have discovered ways to perform
medical procedures without pain.
Janet US

On 2014-06-30 11:57 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:

>
> I'm sorry. I had one in my twenties that was painful and awful. The
> cleaning out was an assault to the body only exceeded in pain by the
> examination itself. I'm so glad they have discovered ways to perform
> medical procedures without pain.
>
About 10 years ago my wife was suffering from horrible cramps in her
guts and had to go for tests in the other end, tube down her throat to
check out her stomach. She said it was a horrible experience. They
didn't find anything. The cramping still hit her occasionally. After
many years of that she had some X rays and ultrasound that revealed a
problem with her gall bladder. The gall bladder surgery was less
bothersome than that test had been, and the problem disappeared.

On Monday, June 30, 2014 8:02:33 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-06-30 8:53 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > On 6/30/2014 5:24 AM, Gus wrote:
>
> >> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>
> >> ...
>
> >>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 10:59:18 -0400, "Gus" >
>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> I had some red hot Blue Chips with hummus, and hot salsa.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> I've been adding some pepperoni to my Monk's Breakfast of beans and
>
> >>> rice with chopped ham, and it's fabulous! :-)
>
> >>>
>
> >>> I'm sure Andy would approve! :-)
>
> >>>
>
> >>> John Kuthe...
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Anyone have Andy's addy? He might appreciate this.
>
> >>
>
> > He's dead.
>
>
>
> Is he? Or has he adapted a new username?

He's dead, Dave. Steve found written evidence.

--Bryan

On 6/30/2014 10:14 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>>>
>>> It really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Yes, the prep is
>>> the worst but it's only 24 hours out of your life to possibly save your
>>> life.
>>
>> I haven't a clue what 'prep' you folks are talking about. You take
>> some medicine to help clean you out, you fast, you go to the doctor.
>> Get on a table, nurse gives you a shot, turns you on your side. Then
>> nothing. You wake up, everything thing is over. That was the biggest
>> non-event of my life.
>> Janet US
>>
> They didn't knock me out; it HURT! I was crying in pain the entire time.
>
> Jill

If you were not out, it was most likely a partial. I had one the first
time and could watch the journey through the lower intestine on the TV
across from me. There were a few bouts of discomfort and a little pain,
but bearable.

Then there is the full scope. You have to drink a few quarts of "Go
Lytley" to full cleans the entire tract. The hard part is getting the
stuff down. The first few glasses are not a big deal, you just guzzle
them and wait for another half hour to take more. After a few doses, it
is hard getting it down.

The full procedure is easy. I remember laying on the table thinking
"they said they would be giving me something to relax me" and next thing
I knew, I was waking up and they offered some juice and cookies. Yes,
that way it is a non-event.

On 6/30/2014 1:12 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/30/2014 10:14 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> It really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Yes, the prep is
>>>> the worst but it's only 24 hours out of your life to possibly save your
>>>> life.
>>>
>>> I haven't a clue what 'prep' you folks are talking about. You take
>>> some medicine to help clean you out, you fast, you go to the doctor.
>>> Get on a table, nurse gives you a shot, turns you on your side. Then
>>> nothing. You wake up, everything thing is over. That was the biggest
>>> non-event of my life.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> They didn't knock me out; it HURT! I was crying in pain the entire time.
>>
>> Jill
>
> If you were not out, it was most likely a partial. I had one the first
> time and could watch the journey through the lower intestine on the TV
> across from me. There were a few bouts of discomfort and a little pain,
> but bearable.
>
> Then there is the full scope. You have to drink a few quarts of "Go
> Lytley" to full cleans the entire tract. The hard part is getting the
> stuff down. The first few glasses are not a big deal, you just guzzle
> them and wait for another half hour to take more. After a few doses, it
> is hard getting it down.
>
> The full procedure is easy. I remember laying on the table thinking
> "they said they would be giving me something to relax me" and next thing
> I knew, I was waking up and they offered some juice and cookies. Yes,
> that way it is a non-event.

I have no idea whether or not it was a partial or a full anything. I
know it was full time invasive pain! Yes, I had to drink quarts of some
gloppy stuff first. Then they shoved a probe where no one should
rightly be. It's an exit, not an entrance! They didn't give me a shot.
It was extremely painful. There's no chance of anyone doing that
again without medication.

Jill

On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:59:18 AM UTC-4, Gus Overton wrote:
> I had some red hot Blue Chips with hummus, and hot salsa.

Breakfast in hell and colonoscopy? Appropriate to have these subjects together, I suppose.

Jim, you got a raw deal with the pain and all there. I had the endoscopy and the colonoscopy done at the same time, so I was totally knocked out, so it was easy. Except for the women moving me around to get my you know what into position. I thought they might wait till I was out for that, but it's easier to tell someone to move than doing it manually. The day before drinking that stuff was the worst, and having to stay within ten feet of the throne. I got a clean bill of health, fortunately, and don't have to get it again for another ten years. Wooo hoooo!!! On top of that, the doctor told me that by that time he things they'll have this machine developed that is similar to a cat scan. I certainly hope so. As to the farting, I missed out on that, but think it as perhaps awkward experience (do the nurses put on gas masks?)

As to breakfast, I had fruit and an apple pastry. A banana, an apple, some cherries and honey dew melon. This was only because I was out of bacon and eggs, though I do try to alternate. Lots of days I fry bacon, and then scramble eggs in a little of the bacon fat, and have those square frozen homefries that I put in the oven, with apple pastry. Both my parents died of esophageal cancer, so I've given up coffee to prevent acid reflux. I miss it, but it does make me feel better physically, without the diuretic effects of draining all that water out of your system and all.

On Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:44:47 AM UTC-10, Gus Overton wrote:
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>
> eb.com...
>
>
>
> > My breakfast was scrambled eggs. Lunch was steak and green beans.
>
> > Can't have an carbs today as I have a PET scan tomorrow. Just
>
> > routine check up, but I'm certain that if they turn off the lights, I
>
> > will glow in the dark :-)
>
>
>
> lol
>
>
>
> I had a colonoscopy few weeks ago... The prep was not pleasant.
>
> Haven't felt right since.
>
>
>
> The actual procedure was bizarre. Whatever they gave me... I felt like
>
> I was out for 5 seconds, literally. There were 5 women in the room,
>
> sticking various things up my bum and into my arms etc. But the med was
>
> so good I didn't care. I also got to fart at will after, which was also
>
> weird.

Congrats on your farts. Your guts get pumped up with some gas to convert it from a single lane to a double - I presume nitrogen is used. I've had quite a few surgeries. It's pretty much the closest way in which we can experience death. Speaking of death, your topic should be called "What's eating Andy for breakfast?"

On Monday, June 30, 2014 1:05:05 PM UTC-5, Terrence Crimmins wrote:
>
> Both my parents died of esophageal cancer, so I've given
> up coffee to prevent acid reflux. I miss it, but it does
> make me feel better physically, without the diuretic effects
> of draining all that water out of your system and all.

Caffeine is only mildly diuretic. One more way that most folks
are clueless.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/he...real.html?_r=0

--Bryan

On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:07:28 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-06-30 11:57 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm sorry. I had one in my twenties that was painful and awful. The
>> cleaning out was an assault to the body only exceeded in pain by the
>> examination itself. I'm so glad they have discovered ways to perform
>> medical procedures without pain.
>>
>About 10 years ago my wife was suffering from horrible cramps in her
>guts and had to go for tests in the other end, tube down her throat to
>check out her stomach. She said it was a horrible experience. They
>didn't find anything. The cramping still hit her occasionally. After
>many years of that she had some X rays and ultrasound that revealed a
>problem with her gall bladder. The gall bladder surgery was less
>bothersome than that test had been, and the problem disappeared.
>
I had the down-the-throat test. They promised something to numb the
area. B***-S***. They forgot and rammed that tube down. The doctor
was a complete ass. He was basically an ambulance chaser/
Janet US

On 2014-06-30 1:12 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/30/2014 10:14 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> It really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Yes, the prep is
>>>> the worst but it's only 24 hours out of your life to possibly save your
>>>> life.
>>>
>>> I haven't a clue what 'prep' you folks are talking about. You take
>>> some medicine to help clean you out, you fast, you go to the doctor.
>>> Get on a table, nurse gives you a shot, turns you on your side. Then
>>> nothing. You wake up, everything thing is over. That was the biggest
>>> non-event of my life.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> They didn't knock me out; it HURT! I was crying in pain the entire time.
>>
>> Jill
>
> If you were not out, it was most likely a partial. I had one the first
> time and could watch the journey through the lower intestine on the TV
> across from me. There were a few bouts of discomfort and a little pain,
> but bearable.
>


Joan Rivers did a funny bit years ago about going to the the
gynecologist. She said it was much easier for me. They can fantasize.
"I tell you nothing Nazi pigs".

On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:34:01 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>>
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 20:33:40 -0500, "MaryL"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> >"Gus" wrote in message ...
>> >I had some red hot Blue Chips with hummus, and hot salsa.
>> >~~~~~
>> >My typical breakfast would probably bore most of you, and it's what I had
>> >this morning--Old Fashioned oatmeal, no sugar, a handful of fresh
>> >blueberries on the oatmeal (some mornings I use fresh strawberries or
>> >bananas), and plain yogurt on the oatmeal instead of milk.
>>
>> Sounds good to me, nothing boring about that.
>> Never thought or tried using yoghurt. Do you add a fair bit of water
>> to it since you use no milk?
>
> in summer I often make a delicious breakfast smoothie : a sliced
>banana, a dessert spoonful of dry porrige oats (rolled Quaker sort),
>half a cup (ish) of orange juice and same of plain yoghurt, 1 teaspoon
>of malt extract. Whizz everything in smoothie maker jug till smooth and
>drink.

That sounds awesome to me. Next summer I'm going to make that, thanks


I used to have a breakfast smoothie for years, mostly things like
berries (especially blueberries), yoghurt, raw cacao powder, coconut
oil, maca powder... all sorts of stuff. Whilst I wouldn't bother with
some of the more exotic ingredients these days, I really should get
back into the habit of making smoothies in warmer weather. I don't
know why I stopped, to be honest.

In article >, says...
>
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> t...
> > In article om>,
> > says...
> >>
> >> On 6/29/2014 2:44 PM, Gus wrote:
> >
> >> > I had a colonoscopy few weeks ago... The prep was not pleasant.
> >
> > There are various preps, if you get it done again ask for one used
> > in elderly and sick patients. This was a great tip I got from my
> > attending nurse in the recovery room and I've done it ever since. Much
> > easier.
> >
> > Haven't
> >> > felt right since.
> >
> > The prep flushed out all the colon flora that digest what's passing
> > through it. I replace the population afterwards by drinking a little
> > pot of probiotic every day (brand names here are Yakult and Activia, in
> > any supermarket). Drink lots of water and eat a light diet for a day or
> > two. I've never had any after effects.
> >
> > Apparently this is the opposite of US advice
> >
> > http://www.gutsense.org/crc/ccp_colon_ecology.html
>
> Oh! Now you think we have just one colonoscopy prep here?

No, you thick dumbwit, that is NOT what I said. Read the post (and the
link).

Janet UK

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...

> I haven't a clue what 'prep' you folks are talking about. You take
> some medicine to help clean you out, you fast, you go to the doctor.
> Get on a table, nurse gives you a shot, turns you on your side. Then
> nothing. You wake up, everything thing is over. That was the biggest
> non-event of my life.
> Janet US

It's not that simple. The prep part can take days. When my friend recently
had hers, she was put on a special diet for three days prior. I would have
assumed that given my slowed digestion, I would have been put on that diet
but I was not. I think she was not to eat any dairy or protein and only
easily digested things in small portions.

Then comes the liquid diet for 24 hours before. The only food coloring you
can have is yellow. So if you eat Jell-O, it has to be yellow. You can
basically have that, broth and any clear liquids you choose, up until a
certain point.

The laxative part will vary. My friend took different products than I did.
I had one pill at some point. Then I had to drink some liquid stuff. It
was actually a powdered laxative mixed with liquid but I had to take the
whole bottle at once. Then the morning before the prep, I had to drink a
different liquid stuff. And I had to have something with electrolytes in it
as well.

I was not given any kind of shot. I did have an I.V. though.

So really for at least 24 hours prior, you need to be at home. You couldn't
really go to work and do this prep because it involves using the toilet many
times and at some points you'll be stuck there for an hour or more. You
could also get weak from lack of food.

Then afterwards, you do wake up but everything is not over. You can feel
quite gassy and unwell for another 24 hours or more. People often have an
endoscopy as well and that can cause a sore throat. The meds that they give
you can make you go all goofy. You are not allowed to drive for 12 hours
after and you are supposed to take it easy for the next 24 or so hours and
drink plenty of fluids.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/30/2014 9:54 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 23:23:05 -0400, Cheryl >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/29/2014 10:57 PM, Gus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If anyone over 50 is reading, go ahead and have this done... You get
>>>> to
>>>> fart at will after. It is worth it, just for that. And finding out
>>>> your colon health. It is a preventable cancer, caught early.
>>>
>>> My sister was diagnosed with colorectal cancer 2 years ago. She was
>>> declared "cured" after 1 year of chemo, radiation and surgery. It has
>>> since metastasized so it is important to catch it early. I had to have
>>> my colonoscopy before age 50 because of the family connection, plus my
>>> father died 5 years ago after esophageal cancer.
>>>
>>> It really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Yes, the prep is
>>> the worst but it's only 24 hours out of your life to possibly save your
>>> life.
>>
>> I haven't a clue what 'prep' you folks are talking about. You take
>> some medicine to help clean you out, you fast, you go to the doctor.
>> Get on a table, nurse gives you a shot, turns you on your side. Then
>> nothing. You wake up, everything thing is over. That was the biggest
>> non-event of my life.
>> Janet US
>>
> They didn't knock me out; it HURT! I was crying in pain the entire time.

Yep. I screamed at the Dr. in pain. They had to press really hard on my
side to get a good pic of the tumor. What they give you is supposed to
erase your memory of the procedure. Not stop the pain. I don't remember
all of it but I do remember that part. I also remember them apologizing for
causing the pain but they said it was necessary.

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...

> I'm sorry. I had one in my twenties that was painful and awful. The
> cleaning out was an assault to the body only exceeded in pain by the
> examination itself. I'm so glad they have discovered ways to perform
> medical procedures without pain.
> Janet US

Mine was done last year and there was pain.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/30/2014 10:14 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> It really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Yes, the prep is
>>>> the worst but it's only 24 hours out of your life to possibly save your
>>>> life.
>>>
>>> I haven't a clue what 'prep' you folks are talking about. You take
>>> some medicine to help clean you out, you fast, you go to the doctor.
>>> Get on a table, nurse gives you a shot, turns you on your side. Then
>>> nothing. You wake up, everything thing is over. That was the biggest
>>> non-event of my life.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> They didn't knock me out; it HURT! I was crying in pain the entire time.
>>
>> Jill
>
> If you were not out, it was most likely a partial. I had one the first
> time and could watch the journey through the lower intestine on the TV
> across from me. There were a few bouts of discomfort and a little pain,
> but bearable.
>
> Then there is the full scope. You have to drink a few quarts of "Go
> Lytley" to full cleans the entire tract. The hard part is getting the
> stuff down. The first few glasses are not a big deal, you just guzzle
> them and wait for another half hour to take more. After a few doses, it
> is hard getting it down.
>
> The full procedure is easy. I remember laying on the table thinking "they
> said they would be giving me something to relax me" and next thing I knew,
> I was waking up and they offered some juice and cookies. Yes, that way it
> is a non-event.

Luckily I did not have to take that stuff. I have heard that the Movi-Prep
is just as bad. People I know who had that stuff said they puked it back
up.

On Sunday, 29 June 2014 15:59:18 UTC+1, Gus Overton wrote:
> I had some red hot Blue Chips with hummus, and hot salsa.

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> t...
>> > In article om>,
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> On 6/29/2014 2:44 PM, Gus wrote:
>> >
>> >> > I had a colonoscopy few weeks ago... The prep was not pleasant.
>> >
>> > There are various preps, if you get it done again ask for one used
>> > in elderly and sick patients. This was a great tip I got from my
>> > attending nurse in the recovery room and I've done it ever since. Much
>> > easier.
>> >
>> > Haven't
>> >> > felt right since.
>> >
>> > The prep flushed out all the colon flora that digest what's passing
>> > through it. I replace the population afterwards by drinking a little
>> > pot of probiotic every day (brand names here are Yakult and Activia,
>> > in
>> > any supermarket). Drink lots of water and eat a light diet for a day or
>> > two. I've never had any after effects.
>> >
>> > Apparently this is the opposite of US advice
>> >
>> > http://www.gutsense.org/crc/ccp_colon_ecology.html
>>
>> Oh! Now you think we have just one colonoscopy prep here?
>
> No, you thick dumbwit, that is NOT what I said. Read the post (and the
> link).
>
> Janet UK

I can read what you wrote. You said "US advice". When it comes to medical
stuff there is no such thing as "US advice". I did look at the link. No
clue who runs that site and don't care.

On 6/30/2014 3:42 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:07:28 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-06-30 11:57 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm sorry. I had one in my twenties that was painful and awful. The
>>> cleaning out was an assault to the body only exceeded in pain by the
>>> examination itself. I'm so glad they have discovered ways to perform
>>> medical procedures without pain.
>>>
>> About 10 years ago my wife was suffering from horrible cramps in her
>> guts and had to go for tests in the other end, tube down her throat to
>> check out her stomach. She said it was a horrible experience. They
>> didn't find anything. The cramping still hit her occasionally. After
>> many years of that she had some X rays and ultrasound that revealed a
>> problem with her gall bladder. The gall bladder surgery was less
>> bothersome than that test had been, and the problem disappeared.
>>
> I had the down-the-throat test. They promised something to numb the
> area. B***-S***. They forgot and rammed that tube down. The doctor
> was a complete ass. He was basically an ambulance chaser/
> Janet US
>
An ambulance chaser with hospital privileges?

Jill

"Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message
> He's dead, Dave. Steve found written evidence.
>
> --Bryan

What happened?

"Terrence Crimmins" >

Jim, you got a raw deal with the pain and all there. I had the
endoscopy and the colonoscopy done at the same time, so I was totally
knocked out, so it was easy. Except for the women moving me around to
get my you know what into position. I thought they might wait till I
was out for that, but it's easier to tell someone to move than doing it
manually. The day before drinking that stuff was the worst, and having
to stay within ten feet of the throne. I got a clean bill of health,
fortunately, and don't have to get it again for another ten years. Wooo
hoooo!!! On top of that, the doctor told me that by that time he things
they'll have this machine developed that is similar to a cat scan. I
certainly hope so. As to the farting, I missed out on that, but think
it as perhaps awkward experience (do the nurses put on gas masks?)
---

It's just air. They blow air up you. and you get bloated. It
apparently helps to snake the scope around.. My sister-- being a woman
and not used to farting in public-- had trouble with bad cramps. Till
she let loose. Just passing air doesn't smell.

The professionals do this every day for a few dozen people, so it's not
really embarrassing to them (much). I suppose new nurses/doctors might
be but I assume they practice on each other in college? And there was
just one nurse left in the room with me after, the others had all moved
on to the next patient.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...

Congrats on your farts. Your guts get pumped up with some gas to convert
it from a single lane to a double - I presume nitrogen is used. I've had
quite a few surgeries. It's pretty much the closest way in which we can
experience death. Speaking of death, your topic should be called "What's
eating Andy for breakfast?"
---

Now I feel bad about the title. I had no idea. He's really dead?
Though I guess it could be sort of memorial, sort of. He did like to
post about what he ate for breakfast... When did he pass?

On 6/30/2014 2:58 PM, Gus wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> Congrats on your farts. Your guts get pumped up with some gas to convert
> it from a single lane to a double - I presume nitrogen is used. I've had
> quite a few surgeries. It's pretty much the closest way in which we can
> experience death. Speaking of death, your topic should be called "What's
> eating Andy for breakfast?"
> ---
>
> Now I feel bad about the title. I had no idea. He's really dead?
> Though I guess it could be sort of memorial, sort of. He did like to
> post about what he ate for breakfast... When did he pass?
>
>

Near as I can figure it, he stopped posting on the first day of 2013. It
appears that his posts have been deleted on Google Groups. It's a pretty
neat trick. That's all I know. The reports of his death may be greatly
exaggerated.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/30/2014 2:58 PM, Gus wrote:
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Congrats on your farts. Your guts get pumped up with some gas to
>> convert
>> it from a single lane to a double - I presume nitrogen is used. I've
>> had
>> quite a few surgeries. It's pretty much the closest way in which we
>> can
>> experience death. Speaking of death, your topic should be called
>> "What's
>> eating Andy for breakfast?"
>> ---
>>
>> Now I feel bad about the title. I had no idea. He's really dead?
>> Though I guess it could be sort of memorial, sort of. He did like to
>> post about what he ate for breakfast... When did he pass?
>>
>>
> Near as I can figure it, he stopped posting on the first day of 2013.
> It appears that his posts have been deleted on Google Groups. It's a
> pretty neat trick. That's all I know. The reports of his death may be
> greatly exaggerated.


I wonder where some people go. There used to be so much activity on
Usenet. Now most groups have no posts. I wonder where those people all
went. Many didn't say good-bye and just stop posting and disappeared.

On 2014-06-30 21:36, Gus wrote:

> I wonder where some people go. There used to be so much activity on
> Usenet. Now most groups have no posts. I wonder where those people all
> went. Many didn't say good-bye and just stop posting and disappeared.


And some just show up and carry on as if they have been here before and
with a different name.

"Gus" > wrote in message
...
> "Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message
>> He's dead, Dave. Steve found written evidence.
>>
>> --Bryan
>
> What happened?

Nobody here knows.

"Gus" > wrote in message
...
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> Congrats on your farts. Your guts get pumped up with some gas to convert
> it from a single lane to a double - I presume nitrogen is used. I've had
> quite a few surgeries. It's pretty much the closest way in which we can
> experience death. Speaking of death, your topic should be called "What's
> eating Andy for breakfast?"
> ---
>
> Now I feel bad about the title. I had no idea. He's really dead? Though
> I guess it could be sort of memorial, sort of. He did like to post about
> what he ate for breakfast... When did he pass?

Yes. He's really dead. I can't remember when, according to the obit.

"Gus" > wrote in message
...
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/30/2014 2:58 PM, Gus wrote:
>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Congrats on your farts. Your guts get pumped up with some gas to convert
>>> it from a single lane to a double - I presume nitrogen is used. I've had
>>> quite a few surgeries. It's pretty much the closest way in which we can
>>> experience death. Speaking of death, your topic should be called "What's
>>> eating Andy for breakfast?"
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Now I feel bad about the title. I had no idea. He's really dead?
>>> Though I guess it could be sort of memorial, sort of. He did like to
>>> post about what he ate for breakfast... When did he pass?
>>>
>>>
>> Near as I can figure it, he stopped posting on the first day of 2013. It
>> appears that his posts have been deleted on Google Groups. It's a pretty
>> neat trick. That's all I know. The reports of his death may be greatly
>> exaggerated.
>
>
> I wonder where some people go. There used to be so much activity on
> Usenet. Now most groups have no posts. I wonder where those people all
> went. Many didn't say good-bye and just stop posting and disappeared.

I think a lot of them quit when their ISP's quit supporting Usenet.

On 6/30/2014 7:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Then afterwards, you do wake up but everything is not over. You can
> feel quite gassy and unwell for another 24 hours or more. People often
> have an endoscopy as well and that can cause a sore throat. The meds
> that they give you can make you go all goofy. You are not allowed to
> drive for 12 hours after and you are supposed to take it easy for the
> next 24 or so hours and drink plenty of fluids.

I also felt unwell for a while after the procedure. It really messed up
my digestive system.

I wish I'd had the endoscopy at the same time because now I have to get
a referral to have it done. There have been a couple of times in the
last couple of weeks where it's felt like food has gotten stuck going
down and has been very painful.

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Cheryl