This time it was Essential Baking Company Panino Rolls. Central Market had
them on sale. I can't remember what day I bought them. I ate one. Didn't
notice a problem. Then went to make a sandwich just now. The top roll
looked fine on first glance. But the one underneath it had a visible little
round spot of green mold. I then looked at the one underneath it and it had
several smaller spots just starting. The one on my plate? Had what
appeared to be a piece of rosemary baked into the bread. I checked the
ingredients as they do make a bread with rosemary. But there was none in
this bread. So out it went!

I don't know if you've ever bitten into moldy bread before. I have. I will
never forget that taste. It is not a good one!

Odd thing is, the date on the package was 6/14. I don't know if they made a
mistake on the date or what. I haven't bought a lot of their bread before.
Just their single long loaves (they're small) or the par baked that Costco
sells. And the rosemary bread which I wasn't such a fan of. Too much
rosemary in it.

We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I just
don't know what would cause this. I still had the San Fransico sourdough
rolls (only a few left), two loaves of the honey wheat bread (one almost
gone) and neither showed any mold. One honey wheat is dated 6/9 and the
other is dated 6/12. The sourdough is 6/10.

On 6/10/14, 12:57 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I
> just don't know what would cause this....

Ummm, warm weather and humidity.

We have that problem year-round in Florida -- no bread lasts as long as
we expected when we lived up north.

We rnow efrigerate all breads and baked good -- double-wrapped -- after
one day.

-- Larry

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:07:06 AM UTC-7, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 6/10/14, 12:57 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>

> > We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I
> > just don't know what would cause this....
>
> Ummm, warm weather and humidity.
>
> We have that problem year-round in Florida -- no bread lasts as long as
> we expected when we lived up north.
>
> We rnow efrigerate all breads and baked good -- double-wrapped -- after
> one day.

When we buy bread we freeze half the loaf right away. Mold especially
likes whole wheat bread, so we will freeze the loaf in two or three sections.

We can get several uses out of each ziploc bag.

> wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:07:06 AM UTC-7, pltrgyst wrote:
>> On 6/10/14, 12:57 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>> > We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I
>> > just don't know what would cause this....
>>
>> Ummm, warm weather and humidity.
>>
>> We have that problem year-round in Florida -- no bread lasts as long as
>> we expected when we lived up north.
>>
>> We rnow efrigerate all breads and baked good -- double-wrapped -- after
>> one day.
>
> When we buy bread we freeze half the loaf right away. Mold especially
> likes whole wheat bread, so we will freeze the loaf in two or three
> sections.
>
> We can get several uses out of each ziploc bag.

I don't eat much bread these days, so that when I make one, I cut it into
slices and freeze it. Saves wastes.


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"Ophelia" > wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:07:06 AM UTC-7, pltrgyst wrote:
>>> On 6/10/14, 12:57 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I
>>>> just don't know what would cause this....
>>>
>>> Ummm, warm weather and humidity.
>>>
>>> We have that problem year-round in Florida -- no bread lasts as long as
>>> we expected when we lived up north.
>>>
>>> We rnow efrigerate all breads and baked good -- double-wrapped -- after
>>> one day.
>>
>> When we buy bread we freeze half the loaf right away. Mold especially
>> likes whole wheat bread, so we will freeze the loaf in two or three
>> sections.
>>
>> We can get several uses out of each ziploc bag.
>
> I don't eat much bread these days, so that when I make one, I cut it into
> slices and freeze it. Saves wastes.
>

Yes, bread immediately goes into the freezer here, if we buy it at all.
Bread is essentially empty calories anyway, even the whole wheat stuff, so
it doesn't make sense to really eat much of it.

"pltrgyst" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/10/14, 12:57 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I
>> just don't know what would cause this....
>
> Ummm, warm weather and humidity.
>
> We have that problem year-round in Florida -- no bread lasts as long as we
> expected when we lived up north.
>
> We rnow efrigerate all breads and baked good -- double-wrapped -- after
> one day.
>
> -- Larry

I grew up with refrigerated or frozen bread and I just don't like what it
does to the texture.

>
>
>
> I grew up with refrigerated or frozen bread and I just don't like what it
>
> does to the texture.

Wasn't there a really long thread about you having to toss a bunch of groceries due to your electricity being out and there were many individual bags of bread in the freezer? I am a lurker and when bored follow these epic threads and I never post but this inspired me. There is a feel to your posts that remind me of Buffy Lyre or whatever her name was eons ago.

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 4:07:23 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I grew up with refrigerated or frozen bread and I just don't like what it
>
> >
>
> > does to the texture.
>
>
>
> Wasn't there a really long thread about you having to toss a bunch of groceries due to your electricity being out and there were many individual bags of bread in the freezer? I am a lurker and when bored follow these epic threads and I never post but this inspired me. There is a feel to your posts that remind me of Buffy Lyre or whatever her name was eons ago.

Hahaha, yes Buffy Lyre was such a kick. The difference is that she knew exactly how silly she and her friend (what was her name, Mary Ann?) were. She was truly witty.

Julie P

On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 16:07:23 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>> I grew up with refrigerated or frozen bread and I just don't like what it
>> does to the texture.
>
>Wasn't there a really long thread about you having to toss a bunch of groceries due to your
>electricity being out and there were many individual bags of bread in the freezer?

There sure was.

>I am a lurker and when bored follow these epic threads and I never post but this inspired me.

Welcome

> wrote in message
...

>
>
>
> I grew up with refrigerated or frozen bread and I just don't like what it
>
> does to the texture.

Wasn't there a really long thread about you having to toss a bunch of
groceries due to your electricity being out and there were many individual
bags of bread in the freezer? I am a lurker and when bored follow these epic
threads and I never post but this inspired me. There is a feel to your
posts that remind me of Buffy Lyre or whatever her name was eons ago.

No clue who Buffy Lyre was. The bread I had to toss when we had the power
outage was a few pieces of flat bread from Costco. An entire package of
that stuff sells for (I think) $2.97 so it wasn't really a monetary loss. I
also had a few slices of honey whole wheat that I use for toast. I will
continue to freeze the flat bread only because I go to Costco less often
than I do other stores. And that sort of bread I warm before eating so the
freezer doesn't seem to affect it. The *only* reason I froze the other
bread was because I was stuck on the couch due to a foot operation and
subsequent infection. I couldn't go out to get groceries and I was in some
cases paying a premium price to have them delivered. So I did my best to
preserve what little I had.

I can go out and get groceries now as needed. So no need to put extra bread
in the freezer. And there is pretty much always going to be extra. Those
loaves are small but the don't contain preservatives and they will go moldy,
usually on the 8th day. They are good for 7 days after baked. But I can't
always time it to where I am purchasing a loaf with 7 days left on it.
Sometimes there are only 4 days. And I am usually the only one who eats it.
It would be rare for me to eat an entire loaf. And due to the slightly
sweet taste, I have found that we don't like it for other things. French
Toast Casserole being an exception but... Even when I make that, it rarely
gets fully eaten so there is still waste. I'd rather just waste the bread
and not additional eggs, milk, sugar substitute and cinnamon. Plus my time.

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:07:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I grew up with refrigerated or frozen bread and I just don't like what it
>
> >
>
> > does to the texture.
>
>
>
> Wasn't there a really long thread about you having to toss a bunch of groceries due to your electricity being out and there were many individual bags of bread in the freezer? I am a lurker and when bored follow these epic threads and I never post but this inspired me. There is a feel to your posts that remind me of Buffy Lyre or whatever her name was eons ago.

Hang in there - she, lacking in originality, will surely post another variation on this theme in the near future.

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:07:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I grew up with refrigerated or frozen bread and I just don't like what
> > it
>
> >
>
> > does to the texture.
>
>
>
> Wasn't there a really long thread about you having to toss a bunch of
> groceries due to your electricity being out and there were many individual
> bags of bread in the freezer? I am a lurker and when bored follow these
> epic threads and I never post but this inspired me. There is a feel to
> your posts that remind me of Buffy Lyre or whatever her name was eons ago.

---

Not many but a few. And that was an execption. I only did it because I was
stuck home after stepping on that nail and all of the infections and
operation and such that went with it. Because I was unable to go out and
get any food, I was paying a pretty penny to have food delivered. I was
also unable to get up and get my own food so was dependant on what was
brought to me. Nobody in this house was eating their normal foods. It was
a very bad and stressful time. Nobody complained about the food during this
time. We just ate what we had or got and we were glad that at least we had
food.

---

Hang in there - she, lacking in originality, will surely post another
variation on this theme in the near future.

---

Nope. You, like others here take one thing that I say and assume that every
day in our house is the same. They're not. Things change. For the worse
or for the better. But they always change.

It's summer now so our meals will change. Daughter's dance schedule has
changed. And I presume it will change again when school starts. Much of
what I make for meals depends on her schedule.

On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 21:57:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I just
> don't know what would cause this. I still had the San Fransico sourdough
> rolls (only a few left), two loaves of the honey wheat bread (one almost
> gone) and neither showed any mold. One honey wheat is dated 6/9 and the
> other is dated 6/12. The sourdough is 6/10.

1. Don't buy so much bread all at once.
2. Check the dates carefully and buy only what you can consume before
it goes stale.
3.
http://www.eatbydate.com/grains/bake...piration-date/

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 6/10/2014 10:22 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 21:57:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I just
>> don't know what would cause this.

It's called "humidity". Mold thrives in warm, moist climates.

>> I still had the San Fransico sourdough
>> rolls (only a few left), two loaves of the honey wheat bread (one almost
>> gone) and neither showed any mold. One honey wheat is dated 6/9 and the
>> other is dated 6/12. The sourdough is 6/10.
>
> 1. Don't buy so much bread all at once.
> 2. Check the dates carefully and buy only what you can consume before
> it goes stale.
> 3.
> http://www.eatbydate.com/grains/bake...piration-date/
>
It seems Julie feels compelled to buy lots of stuff all at one time. If
they'd replaced the second freezer when it broke (even with a smaller
one) she wouldn't have this problem, but they chose not to. So... don't
buy bread as if you're a squirrel gathering nuts for the winter.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/10/2014 10:22 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 21:57:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I
>>> just
>>> don't know what would cause this.
>
> It's called "humidity". Mold thrives in warm, moist climates.
>
>>> I still had the San Fransico sourdough
>>> rolls (only a few left), two loaves of the honey wheat bread (one almost
>>> gone) and neither showed any mold. One honey wheat is dated 6/9 and the
>>> other is dated 6/12. The sourdough is 6/10.
>>
>> 1. Don't buy so much bread all at once.
>> 2. Check the dates carefully and buy only what you can consume before
>> it goes stale.
>> 3.
>> http://www.eatbydate.com/grains/bake...piration-date/
>>
> It seems Julie feels compelled to buy lots of stuff all at one time. If
> they'd replaced the second freezer when it broke (even with a smaller one)
> she wouldn't have this problem, but they chose not to. So... don't buy
> bread as if you're a squirrel gathering nuts for the winter.

I didn't buy this all at one time. I bought the second loaf of honey whole
wheat only because I can't get it everywhere. Only Costco, Whole Foods, PCC
or Central Market. I got this loaf at Central Market only because I
happened to be there and they had the sale on the Panino rolls so I decided
to try them. Plus they were dated 6/14 so I assumed they would be fine. I
already knew that I had only a few of the Sourdough rolls left. They are
small and it was a big bag of them. I knew they were soon to expire. Only
reason that I bought those is that I wanted something for sandwiches and
whatever store I bought them at (Target? I think...) did not have what I
wanted and they were the only rolls they had that I could eat. So while it
was still a larger amount than I wanted, they had no other options and I
didn't want to go to another store.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 21:57:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I
>> just
>> don't know what would cause this. I still had the San Fransico sourdough
>> rolls (only a few left), two loaves of the honey wheat bread (one almost
>> gone) and neither showed any mold. One honey wheat is dated 6/9 and the
>> other is dated 6/12. The sourdough is 6/10.
>
> 1. Don't buy so much bread all at once.
> 2. Check the dates carefully and buy only what you can consume before
> it goes stale.
> 3.
> http://www.eatbydate.com/grains/bake...piration-date/
>
This was only 4 rolls and not expired. The date on it indicated that it
should be good through 6/14. Obviously not. But the bread I have with
dates that are sooner than that have no mold. So just weird.

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> This time it was Essential Baking Company Panino Rolls. Central Market had
> them on sale. I can't remember what day I bought them. I ate one. Didn't
> notice a problem. Then went to make a sandwich just now. The top roll
> looked fine on first glance. But the one underneath it had a visible little
> round spot of green mold. I then looked at the one underneath it and it had
> several smaller spots just starting. The one on my plate? Had what
> appeared to be a piece of rosemary baked into the bread. I checked the
> ingredients as they do make a bread with rosemary. But there was none in
> this bread. So out it went!
>
> I don't know if you've ever bitten into moldy bread before. I have. I will
> never forget that taste. It is not a good one!
>
> Odd thing is, the date on the package was 6/14. I don't know if they made a
> mistake on the date or what. I haven't bought a lot of their bread before.
> Just their single long loaves (they're small) or the par baked that Costco
> sells. And the rosemary bread which I wasn't such a fan of. Too much
> rosemary in it.
>
> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I just
> don't know what would cause this. I still had the San Fransico sourdough
> rolls (only a few left), two loaves of the honey wheat bread (one almost
> gone) and neither showed any mold. One honey wheat is dated 6/9 and the
> other is dated 6/12. The sourdough is 6/10.

What did Central Market say when you returned the Rolls?

On 6/9/2014 6:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> This time it was Essential Baking Company Panino Rolls. Central Market
> had them on sale. I can't remember what day I bought them. I ate one.
> Didn't notice a problem. Then went to make a sandwich just now. The
> top roll looked fine on first glance. But the one underneath it had a
> visible little round spot of green mold. I then looked at the one
> underneath it and it had several smaller spots just starting. The one
> on my plate? Had what appeared to be a piece of rosemary baked into the
> bread. I checked the ingredients as they do make a bread with
> rosemary. But there was none in this bread. So out it went!
>
> I don't know if you've ever bitten into moldy bread before. I have. I
> will never forget that taste. It is not a good one!
>
> Odd thing is, the date on the package was 6/14. I don't know if they
> made a mistake on the date or what. I haven't bought a lot of their
> bread before. Just their single long loaves (they're small) or the par
> baked that Costco sells. And the rosemary bread which I wasn't such a
> fan of. Too much rosemary in it.
>
> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I
> just don't know what would cause this. I still had the San Fransico
> sourdough rolls (only a few left), two loaves of the honey wheat bread
> (one almost gone) and neither showed any mold. One honey wheat is dated
> 6/9 and the other is dated 6/12. The sourdough is 6/10.

Breads with no preservatives will tend to spoil rapidly. Once you open
them, you only have a couple of days to finish it off. That's the way it
is here in the tropics. I tend to stay away from breads like that.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/9/2014 6:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> This time it was Essential Baking Company Panino Rolls. Central Market
>> had them on sale. I can't remember what day I bought them. I ate one.
>> Didn't notice a problem. Then went to make a sandwich just now. The
>> top roll looked fine on first glance. But the one underneath it had a
>> visible little round spot of green mold. I then looked at the one
>> underneath it and it had several smaller spots just starting. The one
>> on my plate? Had what appeared to be a piece of rosemary baked into the
>> bread. I checked the ingredients as they do make a bread with
>> rosemary. But there was none in this bread. So out it went!
>>
>> I don't know if you've ever bitten into moldy bread before. I have. I
>> will never forget that taste. It is not a good one!
>>
>> Odd thing is, the date on the package was 6/14. I don't know if they
>> made a mistake on the date or what. I haven't bought a lot of their
>> bread before. Just their single long loaves (they're small) or the par
>> baked that Costco sells. And the rosemary bread which I wasn't such a
>> fan of. Too much rosemary in it.
>>
>> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I
>> just don't know what would cause this. I still had the San Fransico
>> sourdough rolls (only a few left), two loaves of the honey wheat bread
>> (one almost gone) and neither showed any mold. One honey wheat is dated
>> 6/9 and the other is dated 6/12. The sourdough is 6/10.
>
> Breads with no preservatives will tend to spoil rapidly. Once you open
> them, you only have a couple of days to finish it off. That's the way it
> is here in the tropics. I tend to stay away from breads like that.

I'm not sure if these had preservatives or not. I may go back to the store
tomorrow where I got them and will look. My honey whole wheat has no
preservatives and it still seems fine.

On 6/12/2014 12:29 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if these had preservatives or not. I may go back to the
> store tomorrow where I got them and will look. My honey whole wheat has
> no preservatives and it still seems fine.

The trend of foods having no-preservatives mostly causes a lot of food
being dumped. That's not good.

On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:24:08 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 6/12/2014 12:29 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure if these had preservatives or not. I may go back to the
>> store tomorrow where I got them and will look. My honey whole wheat has
>> no preservatives and it still seems fine.
>
>The trend of foods having no-preservatives mostly causes a lot of food
>being dumped. That's not good.

That's the fault of the purchaser, not the bread.
Aside from having awful texture and taste, bread with preservatives
isn't exactly good for you and some people are sensitive to it. It
doesnt feel or taste like bread to me.

On 6/12/2014 3:14 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:24:08 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 6/12/2014 12:29 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if these had preservatives or not. I may go back to the
>>> store tomorrow where I got them and will look. My honey whole wheat has
>>> no preservatives and it still seems fine.
>>
>> The trend of foods having no-preservatives mostly causes a lot of food
>> being dumped. That's not good.
>
> That's the fault of the purchaser, not the bread.
> Aside from having awful texture and taste, bread with preservatives
> isn't exactly good for you and some people are sensitive to it. It
> doesnt feel or taste like bread to me.
>

Oh, FFS. The preservative most commonly used in bread is calcium
propionate, which is naturally found in far higher levels in Swiss
Cheese. People decided that 'preservative' was bad, so they demanded
preservative-free bread. Which then goes bad much faster. But they
never knew it was a natural product in their cheese, so they never got
worked up about it there.

So preservative-free bread molds a lot faster. Congratulations, food
loons, you got what you asked for.

On 6/12/2014 5:29 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/9/2014 6:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> This time it was Essential Baking Company Panino Rolls. Central
>>> Market
>>> had them on sale. I can't remember what day I bought them. I ate
>>> one.
>>> Didn't notice a problem. Then went to make a sandwich just now. The
>>> top roll looked fine on first glance. But the one underneath it had a
>>> visible little round spot of green mold. I then looked at the one
>>> underneath it and it had several smaller spots just starting. The one
>>> on my plate? Had what appeared to be a piece of rosemary baked
>>> into the
>>> bread. I checked the ingredients as they do make a bread with
>>> rosemary. But there was none in this bread. So out it went!
>>>
>>> I don't know if you've ever bitten into moldy bread before. I
>>> have. I
>>> will never forget that taste. It is not a good one!
>>>
>>> Odd thing is, the date on the package was 6/14. I don't know if they
>>> made a mistake on the date or what. I haven't bought a lot of their
>>> bread before. Just their single long loaves (they're small) or the par
>>> baked that Costco sells. And the rosemary bread which I wasn't such a
>>> fan of. Too much rosemary in it.
>>>
>>> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt
>>> muggy. I
>>> just don't know what would cause this. I still had the San Fransico
>>> sourdough rolls (only a few left), two loaves of the honey wheat bread
>>> (one almost gone) and neither showed any mold. One honey wheat is
>>> dated
>>> 6/9 and the other is dated 6/12. The sourdough is 6/10.
>>
>> Breads with no preservatives will tend to spoil rapidly. Once you
>> open them, you only have a couple of days to finish it off. That's
>> the way it is here in the tropics. I tend to stay away from breads
>> like that.
>
> I'm not sure if these had preservatives or not. I may go back to the
> store tomorrow where I got them and will look. My honey whole wheat
> has no preservatives and it still seems fine.

It may have trace amounts of a natural product with preservative
qualities, such as raisins or raisin juice, or cinnamon. Tiny amounts
of those items will extend the shelf life of bread. Bakers in the know
add trace amounts to their doughs for that reason.

On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:36:11 PM UTC-4, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>
> It may have trace amounts of a natural product with preservative
> qualities, such as raisins or raisin juice, or cinnamon. Tiny amounts
> of those items will extend the shelf life of bread. Bakers in the know
> add trace amounts to their doughs for that reason.

Since when is grape juice a preservative?

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 6/17/2014 1:55 PM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:36:11 PM UTC-4, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>>
>> It may have trace amounts of a natural product with preservative
>> qualities, such as raisins or raisin juice, or cinnamon. Tiny amounts
>> of those items will extend the shelf life of bread. Bakers in the know
>> add trace amounts to their doughs for that reason.
>
> Since when is grape juice a preservative?
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>

http://pods.dasnr.okstate.edu/docush...APC-173web.pdf

Shirley Corriher discusses all this in Cookwise.

You really don't know much about cookery, do you?

On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 23:04:44 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 6/9/2014 6:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> This time it was Essential Baking Company Panino Rolls. Central Market
>> had them on sale. I can't remember what day I bought them. I ate one.
>> Didn't notice a problem. Then went to make a sandwich just now. The
>> top roll looked fine on first glance. But the one underneath it had a
>> visible little round spot of green mold. I then looked at the one
>> underneath it and it had several smaller spots just starting. The one
>> on my plate? Had what appeared to be a piece of rosemary baked into the
>> bread. I checked the ingredients as they do make a bread with
>> rosemary. But there was none in this bread. So out it went!
>>
>> I don't know if you've ever bitten into moldy bread before. I have. I
>> will never forget that taste. It is not a good one!
>>
>> Odd thing is, the date on the package was 6/14. I don't know if they
>> made a mistake on the date or what. I haven't bought a lot of their
>> bread before. Just their single long loaves (they're small) or the par
>> baked that Costco sells. And the rosemary bread which I wasn't such a
>> fan of. Too much rosemary in it.
>>
>> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I
>> just don't know what would cause this. I still had the San Fransico
>> sourdough rolls (only a few left), two loaves of the honey wheat bread
>> (one almost gone) and neither showed any mold. One honey wheat is dated
>> 6/9 and the other is dated 6/12. The sourdough is 6/10.
>
>Breads with no preservatives will tend to spoil rapidly. Once you open
>them, you only have a couple of days to finish it off. That's the way it
>is here in the tropics. I tend to stay away from breads like that.

So, keep your bread in the fridge... you do have refrigeration? Even
with AC bread without preservatives will keep well for a couple weeks.
The bread I buy contains no preservatives and a loaf can easily last
me ten days, but I keep it in the fridge and it will keep for a
month... very rarely after several weeks there might be a tiny bit of
mold on the last slices, that gets tossed to the critters.

On 6/12/2014 6:24 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> So, keep your bread in the fridge... you do have refrigeration? Even
> with AC bread without preservatives will keep well for a couple weeks.
> The bread I buy contains no preservatives and a loaf can easily last
> me ten days, but I keep it in the fridge and it will keep for a
> month... very rarely after several weeks there might be a tiny bit of
> mold on the last slices, that gets tossed to the critters.
>
I don't have no stinkin' room in my fridge for no bread! If there's a
little mold on the bread, I'll cut it off and proceed with the eating.

On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:59:09 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:

>
> I don't have no stinkin' room in my fridge for no bread! If there's a
> little mold on the bread, I'll cut it off and proceed with the eating.

The theory is that mold visible on the surface has spinnarets that go deep
inside the food.

On 6/12/2014 7:19 AM, wrote:
> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:59:09 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't have no stinkin' room in my fridge for no bread! If there's a
>> little mold on the bread, I'll cut it off and proceed with the eating.
>
> The theory is that mold visible on the surface has spinnarets that go deep
> inside the food.
>

I'm pretty sure this is true but I don't let stuff that I can't see rule
my life. My brain's advanced schemes of denial works in perfect concert
with my poor eyesight to make it all happen.

On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:19:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:59:09 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't have no stinkin' room in my fridge for no bread! If there's a
> > little mold on the bread, I'll cut it off and proceed with the eating.
>
> The theory is that mold visible on the surface has spinnarets that go deep
> inside the food.

So, what if you're not breathing it into your lungs.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/12/2014 6:24 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> So, keep your bread in the fridge... you do have refrigeration? Even
>> with AC bread without preservatives will keep well for a couple weeks.
>> The bread I buy contains no preservatives and a loaf can easily last
>> me ten days, but I keep it in the fridge and it will keep for a
>> month... very rarely after several weeks there might be a tiny bit of
>> mold on the last slices, that gets tossed to the critters.
>>
> I don't have no stinkin' room in my fridge for no bread! If there's a
> little mold on the bread, I'll cut it off and proceed with the eating.

That's not a wise plan. If you can see mold it is all through it.

On 6/12/2014 12:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/12/2014 6:24 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>> So, keep your bread in the fridge... you do have refrigeration? Even
>>> with AC bread without preservatives will keep well for a couple weeks.
>>> The bread I buy contains no preservatives and a loaf can easily last
>>> me ten days, but I keep it in the fridge and it will keep for a
>>> month... very rarely after several weeks there might be a tiny bit of
>>> mold on the last slices, that gets tossed to the critters.
>>>
>> I don't have no stinkin' room in my fridge for no bread! If there's a
>> little mold on the bread, I'll cut it off and proceed with the eating.
>
> That's not a wise plan. If you can see mold it is all through it.

My guess is that mold can be an important source of vitamins and
nutrients for strong bodied and minds. Well, at least bodies, anyway.

On 6/12/2014 5:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/12/2014 6:24 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>> So, keep your bread in the fridge... you do have refrigeration? Even
>>> with AC bread without preservatives will keep well for a couple weeks.
>>> The bread I buy contains no preservatives and a loaf can easily last
>>> me ten days, but I keep it in the fridge and it will keep for a
>>> month... very rarely after several weeks there might be a tiny bit of
>>> mold on the last slices, that gets tossed to the critters.
>>>
>> I don't have no stinkin' room in my fridge for no bread! If there's
>> a little mold on the bread, I'll cut it off and proceed with the
>> eating.
>
> That's not a wise plan. If you can see mold it is all through it.

"Mold" does not equal "death". If it did, the ancestors of the human
race would never have made it out of the ocean.

I can guarantee you that the vast majority of humanity has eaten moldy
bread and survived the experience. Most in modern times probably never
even noticed.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 23:04:44 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>>On 6/9/2014 6:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> This time it was Essential Baking Company Panino Rolls. Central Market
>>> had them on sale. I can't remember what day I bought them. I ate one.
>>> Didn't notice a problem. Then went to make a sandwich just now. The
>>> top roll looked fine on first glance. But the one underneath it had a
>>> visible little round spot of green mold. I then looked at the one
>>> underneath it and it had several smaller spots just starting. The one
>>> on my plate? Had what appeared to be a piece of rosemary baked into the
>>> bread. I checked the ingredients as they do make a bread with
>>> rosemary. But there was none in this bread. So out it went!
>>>
>>> I don't know if you've ever bitten into moldy bread before. I have. I
>>> will never forget that taste. It is not a good one!
>>>
>>> Odd thing is, the date on the package was 6/14. I don't know if they
>>> made a mistake on the date or what. I haven't bought a lot of their
>>> bread before. Just their single long loaves (they're small) or the par
>>> baked that Costco sells. And the rosemary bread which I wasn't such a
>>> fan of. Too much rosemary in it.
>>>
>>> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I
>>> just don't know what would cause this. I still had the San Fransico
>>> sourdough rolls (only a few left), two loaves of the honey wheat bread
>>> (one almost gone) and neither showed any mold. One honey wheat is dated
>>> 6/9 and the other is dated 6/12. The sourdough is 6/10.
>>
>>Breads with no preservatives will tend to spoil rapidly. Once you open
>>them, you only have a couple of days to finish it off. That's the way it
>>is here in the tropics. I tend to stay away from breads like that.
>
> So, keep your bread in the fridge... you do have refrigeration? Even
> with AC bread without preservatives will keep well for a couple weeks.
> The bread I buy contains no preservatives and a loaf can easily last
> me ten days, but I keep it in the fridge and it will keep for a
> month... very rarely after several weeks there might be a tiny bit of
> mold on the last slices, that gets tossed to the critters.

As I have said countless times before, I don't like the texture of
refrigerated bread.

On 6/12/2014 4:04 AM, dsi1 wrote:

> Breads with no preservatives will tend to spoil rapidly. Once you open
> them, you only have a couple of days to finish it off. That's the way
> it is here in the tropics. I tend to stay away from breads like that.

Sometimes bread is bagged before it has fully cooled. That happens
more often than it should, and it will promote mold growth.

On 6/17/2014 7:44 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
> On 6/12/2014 4:04 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> Breads with no preservatives will tend to spoil rapidly. Once you open
>> them, you only have a couple of days to finish it off. That's the way
>> it is here in the tropics. I tend to stay away from breads like that.
>
> Sometimes bread is bagged before it has fully cooled. That happens more
> often than it should, and it will promote mold growth.
>

I got some house brand white bread from Safeway that appeared to be
pumped full of water. I've never seen bread such as this. It sort of has
the texture of uncooked French bread. Boy, it's pretty gross. I guess
it's better toasted but it's a little hard getting it to the toaster
slot when it's flopping over when you hold it vertical. Hopefully, that
just a manufacturing error and not some new and improved recipe. OTOH,
it hasn't gotten moldy yet. Thanks preservatives!

On Monday, June 9, 2014 11:57:58 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> This time it was Essential Baking Company Panino Rolls. Central Market had
>
> them on sale. I can't remember what day I bought them. I ate one. Didn't
>
> notice a problem. Then went to make a sandwich just now. The top roll
>
> looked fine on first glance. But the one underneath it had a visible little
>
> round spot of green mold. I then looked at the one underneath it and it had
>
> several smaller spots just starting. The one on my plate? Had what
>
> appeared to be a piece of rosemary baked into the bread. I checked the
>
> ingredients as they do make a bread with rosemary. But there was none in
>
> this bread. So out it went!
>
>
>
> I don't know if you've ever bitten into moldy bread before. I have. I will
>
> never forget that taste. It is not a good one!
>
>
>
> Odd thing is, the date on the package was 6/14. I don't know if they made a
>
> mistake on the date or what. I haven't bought a lot of their bread before.
>
> Just their single long loaves (they're small) or the par baked that Costco
>
> sells. And the rosemary bread which I wasn't such a fan of. Too much
>
> rosemary in it.
>
>
>
> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I just
>
> don't know what would cause this. I still had the San Fransico sourdough
>
> rolls (only a few left), two loaves of the honey wheat bread (one almost
>
> gone) and neither showed any mold. One honey wheat is dated 6/9 and the
>
> other is dated 6/12. The sourdough is 6/10.

On Monday, June 9, 2014 11:57:58 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> This time it was Essential Baking Company Panino Rolls. Central Market had
>
> them on sale. I can't remember what day I bought them. I ate one. Didn't
>
> notice a problem. Then went to make a sandwich just now. The top roll
>
> looked fine on first glance. But the one underneath it had a visible little
>
> round spot of green mold. I then looked at the one underneath it and it had
>
> several smaller spots just starting. The one on my plate? Had what
>
> appeared to be a piece of rosemary baked into the bread. I checked the
>
> ingredients as they do make a bread with rosemary. But there was none in
>
> this bread. So out it went!
>
>
>
> I don't know if you've ever bitten into moldy bread before. I have. I will
>
> never forget that taste. It is not a good one!
>
>
>
> Odd thing is, the date on the package was 6/14. I don't know if they made a
>
> mistake on the date or what. I haven't bought a lot of their bread before.
>
> Just their single long loaves (they're small) or the par baked that Costco
>
> sells. And the rosemary bread which I wasn't such a fan of. Too much
>
> rosemary in it.
>
>
>
> We have been having rather warm weather. And one day it felt muggy. I just
>
> don't know what would cause this. I still had the San Fransico sourdough
>
> rolls (only a few left), two loaves of the honey wheat bread (one almost
>
> gone) and neither showed any mold. One honey wheat is dated 6/9 and the
>
> other is dated 6/12. The sourdough is 6/10.
try putting the bread in the fridge, that may help. If I leave it out in the bread box, for more than a coule days, it tends to get moldy.

Good grief, isn't there anything else going on in your life? Moldy bread is not a sign of the end of the world!
Buy Pepperidge Farm. I have an opened loaf of rye bread, re-opened and used a number of times, for at
least six weeks, maybe longer, and there isn't a speck of mold on it anywhere. It is stored in a regular metal
bread box inside my cupboard. I have AC in the summer and like it fairly cool in the winter. I expect there are some
hefty preservatives involved, but you can just pretend they are also preserving you. Quit with all the bitching,
it isn't becoming, nor is it earth-shattering. In a word, it is boring and it is my guess that nobody gives a damn.

N

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
> Good grief, isn't there anything else going on in your life? Moldy bread
> is not a sign of the end of the world!
> Buy Pepperidge Farm. I have an opened loaf of rye bread, re-opened and
> used a number of times, for at
> least six weeks, maybe longer, and there isn't a speck of mold on it
> anywhere. It is stored in a regular metal
> bread box inside my cupboard. I have AC in the summer and like it fairly
> cool in the winter. I expect there are some
> hefty preservatives involved, but you can just pretend they are also
> preserving you. Quit with all the bitching,
> it isn't becoming, nor is it earth-shattering. In a word, it is boring
> and it is my guess that nobody gives a damn.
>
> N

I don't think they sell Pepperidge Farm here but even if they did, I
probably couldn't eat it. I can't have rye, wheat or eggs.

And you are quite nasty. What I posted about was totally food related. I
just bought the same bread again. We'll see. The Bolo bread that I bought
did not have an expiration or use by date on it but the last piece went
moldy after about 4 days. No preservatives in it.

If you truly have a loaf of bread that sat out on the counter for 6 weeks
and didn't get moldy then I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole!