http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfPAjUvvnIc

On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 6:36:16 AM UTC-8, Dave Smith wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfPAjUvvnIc

The truth about tap water:

http://articles.latimes.com/1985-01-..._birth-defects

http://www.cs.duke.edu/~narten/faq/water-treatment.html

But if it's safe for pregnant women to drink, and it's not killing your fish,
it's not too bad. But after years of drinking bottled water, drinking, say,
Chicago water is like jumping into a swimming pool.

On 12/3/2013 12:40 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 6:36:16 AM UTC-8, Dave Smith wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfPAjUvvnIc
>
> The truth about tap water:
>
> http://articles.latimes.com/1985-01-..._birth-defects
>
> http://www.cs.duke.edu/~narten/faq/water-treatment.html
>
> But if it's safe for pregnant women to drink, and it's not killing your fish,
> it's not too bad. But after years of drinking bottled water, drinking, say,
> Chicago water is like jumping into a swimming pool.
>
I dunno about Chicago water. I get an occasional 'water report'. I
drink tap water. I don't pay for bottled water. The only reason I ever
had to buy bottled water was when we lived in Bangkok.

Memphis water was from natural aquifers. Just fine and not toxic. Here
I drink filtered water from the tap. Bottled water is a waste of money
and everyone thinks it is "healtier". I say BS. Just more plastic bottles.

Jill

On 2013-12-03 14:36:16 +0000, Dave Smith said:

> http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfPAjUvvnIc

Funny stuff!

On 12/3/2013 12:40 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 6:36:16 AM UTC-8, Dave Smith wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfPAjUvvnIc
>
> The truth about tap water:
>
> http://articles.latimes.com/1985-01-..._birth-defects
>
> http://www.cs.duke.edu/~narten/faq/water-treatment.html
>
> But if it's safe for pregnant women to drink, and it's not killing your fish,
> it's not too bad. But after years of drinking bottled water, drinking, say,
> Chicago water is like jumping into a swimming pool.
>

Easily rectified with a carbon filter. Our town water varies from nasty
to terrible depending on season, but a couple of cartridges a year makes
it as good as any water.

On 2013-12-03 17:47:00 +0000, jmcquown said:

> On 12/3/2013 12:40 PM, wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 6:36:16 AM UTC-8, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfPAjUvvnIc
>>
>> The truth about tap water:
>>
>> http://articles.latimes.com/1985-01-..._birth-defects
>>
>> http://www.cs.duke.edu/~narten/faq/water-treatment.html
>>
>> But if it's safe for pregnant women to drink, and it's not killing your fish,
>> it's not too bad. But after years of drinking bottled water, drinking, say,
>> Chicago water is like jumping into a swimming pool.
>>
> I dunno about Chicago water. I get an occasional 'water report'. I
> drink tap water. I don't pay for bottled water. The only reason I
> ever had to buy bottled water was when we lived in Bangkok.
>
> Memphis water was from natural aquifers. Just fine and not toxic.
> Here I drink filtered water from the tap. Bottled water is a waste of
> money and everyone thinks it is "healtier". I say BS. Just more
> plastic bottles.

No extra bottles if you subscribe to such as Sparkletts (or any of the
water-suppliers they have absorbed); they pick up their bottles and
drop off new ones.

We drink distilled (now marketed as "purified") water and have it
delivered in 5-gallon jugs. Mineral content from different fresh
sources produces different things. Distilling makes it a little more
consistent.

Setting taste aside, I don't TRUST the people who operate all that mess
from cross-state all the way to my tap, it's just a big black box. I
know I could be a better "consumer" if I read daily reports of their
quarterly content stats. My problem with the "tap water is safe"
thinking is that it is always AFTER a contamination that we are
informed of the problems and/or errors they 1) overlooked, 2) were not
testing for, 3) could never have imagined, 4) they refuse to
acknowledge until 20 years in court.

I've been hearing for at least 2-3 years that fracking has the
potential to pollute the aquifirs from which many municipalities (and
some bottlers!) draw their drinking water. That too doesn't make me
very comfortable as fracking enterprise expands.

Those are my concerns.

I just called Sparkletts to find out exactly where the water comes from
and *how* it is "purified". Giving up on their site, I'm now waiting
for cserve aid on their 800 line.

More news as it comes in...!

On 2013-12-03 18:26:25 +0000, gtr said:

> Setting taste aside, I don't TRUST the people who operate all that mess
> from cross-state all the way to my tap, it's just a big black box. I
> know I could be a better "consumer" if I read daily reports of their
> quarterly content stats. My problem with the "tap water is safe"
> thinking is that it is always AFTER a contamination that we are
> informed of the problems and/or errors they 1) overlooked, 2) were not
> testing for, 3) could never have imagined, 4) they refuse to
> acknowledge until 20 years in court.
>
> I've been hearing for at least 2-3 years that fracking has the
> potential to pollute the aquifirs from which many municipalities (and
> some bottlers!) draw their drinking water. That too doesn't make me
> very comfortable as fracking enterprise expands.
>
> Those are my concerns.
>
> I just called Sparkletts to find out exactly where the water comes from
> and *how* it is "purified". Giving up on their site, I'm now waiting
> for cserve aid on their 800 line.
>
> More news as it comes in...!

Wow! That was most elusive and difficult to find information! I had
what sounded like an 18 year-old slowly and confusedly try to answer
questions, and eventually was told that my drinking water was coming
from SANTA ANA, CALIFORNIA where I presently live!

A municipal water supply? No no no--not a municipal water supply--a
"protected well". "Oh really? Where is it?"
"What--you want the address?"
"What the heck, sure. I'll take the address."

She couldn't manage to find it.

So the EPA controls the cleanliness of my water which comes from a
municipal pumping station about 400 yards from my house--literally,
it's behind the houses across the street at the convergence of the
Santa Ana River, and Santiago Creek (both usually dry).

But the protected well produces a "water product" and as such is
governed by the FDA, not the EPA, and provides about as much oversight
as a substitute teacher with a drinking problem. As Penn and Teller
mentioned, the EPA has 20 inspectors the FDA has "less than one". It
occurs to me that, sans purification, the municipal water supply is *at
least* better monitored for "stuff". Now I'm beginning to wonder what
the hell "purification" really means exactly as a corporate marketing
term, but don't have the patience to ask a community-college drop-out
right now. I'm beginning to wonder if it's spelled slightly different
like "Purafied (tm)".

On the Sparkletts web site there is no "water quality" report
available, nor could my cserve gal find it. So I searched via google:
"water quality" site:sparkletts.com - I came up with a page, so did my
aid. She kept saying it's there but I couldn't find it. No, I
explained, it's NOT THERE, if there is no access to it through the web
page directly. It's what's called a "hidden page".

Anyway, it provides trace mineral content and other such stuff. All
very interesting. I asked my aid; if my water is coming from Santa Ana
and this is the water report, what if I was getting my water in Texas,
would it be shipped from Santa Ana?

"No," I was told, "it would be one of their local 'protected wells' in Texas."
"And what of their report?"
"Oh, they get a different report."
"How could they get a different report if you only have one such
report on this hidden page on your website."
"They get a different web site."
"The Texas website isn't sparkletts.com."
"Sure, but it's different for them."

This loop of nonsense went on for a while and then I thanked her and
assume I'll be shaking down the delivery guy--a very pleasant old
fellow--for more info.

Thanks for the funny video, Dave! Very helpful stuff!

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/3/2013 12:40 PM, wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 6:36:16 AM UTC-8, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfPAjUvvnIc
>>
>> The truth about tap water:
>>
>> http://articles.latimes.com/1985-01-..._birth-defects
>>
>> http://www.cs.duke.edu/~narten/faq/water-treatment.html
>>
>> But if it's safe for pregnant women to drink, and it's not killing your
>> fish,
>> it's not too bad. But after years of drinking bottled water, drinking,
>> say,
>> Chicago water is like jumping into a swimming pool.
>>
> I dunno about Chicago water. I get an occasional 'water report'. I drink
> tap water. I don't pay for bottled water. The only reason I ever had to
> buy bottled water was when we lived in Bangkok.
>
> Memphis water was from natural aquifers. Just fine and not toxic. Here I
> drink filtered water from the tap. Bottled water is a waste of money and
> everyone thinks it is "healtier". I say BS. Just more plastic bottles.
>
Have you noticed that the bottles have a *best before date* on them?
That must mean that after a time, something leaches out of the plastic!!!
Graham

On 12/3/2013 2:52 PM, Helpful person wrote:

>
> Unfortunately the water where I live is horrible so I am forced to use bottled,.
>

Either an RO system or proper filters will pay for itself over bottled.
You do have choices.

On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:38:44 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 12/3/2013 2:52 PM, Helpful person wrote:
>
> >
> > Unfortunately the water where I live is horrible so I am forced to use bottled,.
> >
>
> Either an RO system or proper filters will pay for itself over bottled.
> You do have choices.

There's more than taste wrong with nasty water and I don't trust a
carbon filter to remove it.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 2013-12-03 2:34 PM, graham wrote:

> Have you noticed that the bottles have a *best before date* on them?
> That must mean that after a time, something leaches out of the plastic!!!
>

Maybe it means they want you to use it up and buy more, or to throw it
out and buy more. When it gets close to it's best before date they could
put it on sale for half price and only have a 10002 markup.

On 12/3/2013 5:23 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2013-12-03 2:34 PM, graham wrote:
>
>> Have you noticed that the bottles have a *best before date* on them?
>> That must mean that after a time, something leaches out of the plastic!!!
>>
>
> Maybe it means they want you to use it up and buy more, or to throw it
> out and buy more.

You *know* who would buy a case of it and pay attention to those dates.

Jill

On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:36:16 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfPAjUvvnIc

I never understood bottled water, but then I drink St Louis MO tap
water that I heard was voted one of he best tasting tap waters!

And I agree! I wash out quart Gatgorade bottles and fill them with
fine St Louis MO tap water!

I remember my mom saying in Des Plains (CHI) the tap water ran orange.
Rust?

John Kuthe...

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 12/3/2013 12:40 PM, wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 6:36:16 AM UTC-8, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfPAjUvvnIc
> >
> > The truth about tap water:
> >
> > http://articles.latimes.com/1985-01-..._birth-defects
> >
> > http://www.cs.duke.edu/~narten/faq/water-treatment.html
> >
> > But if it's safe for pregnant women to drink, and it's not killing your fish,
> > it's not too bad. But after years of drinking bottled water, drinking, say,
> > Chicago water is like jumping into a swimming pool.
> >
> I dunno about Chicago water. I get an occasional 'water report'. I
> drink tap water. I don't pay for bottled water. The only reason I ever
> had to buy bottled water was when we lived in Bangkok.
>
> Memphis water was from natural aquifers. Just fine and not toxic. Here
> I drink filtered water from the tap. Bottled water is a waste of money
> and everyone thinks it is "healtier". I say BS. Just more plastic bottles.
>
> Jill

I'm afraid you are absolutely wrong. Bottled water does not contain
chlorine or fluoride, both highly toxic chemicals, nor does it contain
the numerous additional toxic reaction products these two toxins produce
when they contact the decades of sludge in every municipal water system.
Bottled water is absolutely safer than municipal tap water in every
scientifically provable way.

On 12/3/2013 3:45 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:38:44 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 12/3/2013 2:52 PM, Helpful person wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately the water where I live is horrible so I am forced to use bottled,.
>>>
>>
>> Either an RO system or proper filters will pay for itself over bottled.
>> You do have choices.
>
> There's more than taste wrong with nasty water and I don't trust a
> carbon filter to remove it.

I said "proper" filters Have the water tested to determine what you
need. The bottled water people do that.
>

On 12/3/2013 6:31 PM, John Kuthe wrote:

>
> I remember my mom saying in Des Plains (CHI) the tap water ran orange.
> Rust?
>
> John Kuthe...
>

Probably rust. Could be the pipes along the way. Our town is replacing
some that are 100+ years old.

On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:35:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 12/3/2013 6:31 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>
>>
>> I remember my mom saying in Des Plains (CHI) the tap water ran orange.
>> Rust?
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
>
>Probably rust. Could be the pipes along the way. Our town is replacing
>some that are 100+ years old.

This was circa 1970 too.

John Kuthe...

I make do most of the time with a Brita and I do change the filter religiously. Not sure about the impurities, but it sure makes the water for coffee tasteless. I had a guy come to the house once with the pitch for a 3000 dollar system, but didn't feel it was worth it.

My city offered free water testing from an 'independent' lab - the water was deemed safe.

If and when I do buy bottled water, I am sure to recyck the bottles.

In article >,
Pete C. > wrote:
>
>I'm afraid you are absolutely wrong. Bottled water does not contain
>chlorine or fluoride, both highly toxic chemicals, nor does it contain

Purity of Essence.

>the numerous additional toxic reaction products these two toxins produce
>when they contact the decades of sludge in every municipal water system.
>Bottled water is absolutely safer than municipal tap water in every
>scientifically provable way.


--

On 2013-12-04, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Probably rust. Could be the pipes along the way. Our town is replacing
> some that are 100+ years old.

In some gas fracking areas, the pollution is so severe the tap water
will burn!

nb

On 2013-12-04, Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
> In article >,
> Pete C. > wrote:
>>
>>I'm afraid you are absolutely wrong. Bottled water does not contain
>>chlorine or fluoride, both highly toxic chemicals, nor does it contain
>
> Purity of Essence.

I don't know what the above is, but I do know Pete, as usual, is dead
wrong. It's quite difficult to find bottled water that does NOT
contain small amts of chorine and salt, both allowed by the FDA. As
for flouride, it is offered as option from some brands of bottled
water, like Alhambra water in CA. This because some municipalities,
like the one where my granddaughters live, have commie fearing morons
in the city govt and no flouride in the water. This means my GDs will
be plagued with cavities, jes like I was. My daughter never had a
single cavity (almost 10 yrs) till we moved from a fluoridated town to
a non-fluoridated town. I would buy fluoridated water for my GDs.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2013-12-04, Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Pete C. > wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm afraid you are absolutely wrong. Bottled water does not contain
>>>chlorine or fluoride, both highly toxic chemicals, nor does it contain
>>
>> Purity of Essence.
>
> I don't know what the above is, but I do know Pete, as usual, is dead
> wrong. It's quite difficult to find bottled water that does NOT
> contain small amts of chorine and salt, both allowed by the FDA. As
> for flouride, it is offered as option from some brands of bottled
> water, like Alhambra water in CA. This because some municipalities,
> like the one where my granddaughters live, have commie fearing morons
> in the city govt and no flouride in the water. This means my GDs will
> be plagued with cavities, jes like I was. My daughter never had a
> single cavity (almost 10 yrs) till we moved from a fluoridated town to
> a non-fluoridated town. I would buy fluoridated water for my GDs.
>
The same thing happened in Calgary. Some halfwit councillors believed
everything they read on the internet. The others were right-wingers who
hated the idea of putting fluoridated water on their lawns.
Graham

Helpful person wrote:
>
> Distilled water is also missing trace elements that are
> essential for good health. If one only drinks distilled
> water one's health will suffer.

Not only that but with bottled water too. Dentist told me that a study
was run and rural people drinking well water suffered many more
cavities by not having the floride added like city water does.

G.

On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:43:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> Helpful person wrote:
> >
> > Distilled water is also missing trace elements that are
> > essential for good health. If one only drinks distilled
> > water one's health will suffer.
>
> Not only that but with bottled water too. Dentist told me that a study
> was run and rural people drinking well water suffered many more
> cavities by not having the floride added like city water does.
>

I disagree based on personal experience, but my uncle was a dentist -
so maybe he gave us fluoride treatments and I don't remember.
However, stress will cause cavities too... your saliva turns acid and
eats the tooth enamel.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 12/4/2013 11:17 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:43:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Helpful person wrote:
>>>
>>> Distilled water is also missing trace elements that are
>>> essential for good health. If one only drinks distilled
>>> water one's health will suffer.
>>
>> Not only that but with bottled water too. Dentist told me that a study
>> was run and rural people drinking well water suffered many more
>> cavities by not having the floride added like city water does.
>>
>
> I disagree based on personal experience, but my uncle was a dentist -
> so maybe he gave us fluoride treatments and I don't remember.
> However, stress will cause cavities too... your saliva turns acid and
> eats the tooth enamel.
>
>
Taking a wide turn on the thread drift thing... it bugs the hell out of
me to see toothpaste commercials mentioning the dire consequences of
certain food and drink wearing away tooth enamel. They'll tell you once
it's gone you can't get it back... well, not unless you buy their magic
toothpaste.

Jill

In article >,
notbob > wrote:
>On 2013-12-04, Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Pete C. > wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm afraid you are absolutely wrong. Bottled water does not contain
>>>chlorine or fluoride, both highly toxic chemicals, nor does it contain
>>
>> Purity of Essence.
>
>I don't know what the above is, but I do know Pete, as usual, is dead

It's a reference to Dr. Strangelove. The character Colonel Jack D. Ripper
was insane, and in addition to launching the nuclear weapons, he
ranted on and on about fluoridation. He needed to maintain the
purity of essence of his precious bodily fluids, so he drank
only pure grain alcohol and rainwater.

Cindy

>wrong. It's quite difficult to find bottled water that does NOT
>contain small amts of chorine and salt, both allowed by the FDA. As
>for flouride, it is offered as option from some brands of bottled
>water, like Alhambra water in CA. This because some municipalities,
>like the one where my granddaughters live, have commie fearing morons
>in the city govt and no flouride in the water. This means my GDs will
>be plagued with cavities, jes like I was. My daughter never had a
>single cavity (almost 10 yrs) till we moved from a fluoridated town to
>a non-fluoridated town. I would buy fluoridated water for my GDs.
>
>nb
>


--

On 12/4/2013 9:41 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-12-04, Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Pete C. > wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm afraid you are absolutely wrong. Bottled water does not contain
>>> chlorine or fluoride, both highly toxic chemicals, nor does it contain
>>
>> Purity of Essence.
>
> I don't know what the above is, but I do know Pete, as usual, is dead
> wrong. It's quite difficult to find bottled water that does NOT
> contain small amts of chorine and salt, both allowed by the FDA. As
> for flouride, it is offered as option from some brands of bottled
> water, like Alhambra water in CA. This because some municipalities,
> like the one where my granddaughters live, have commie fearing morons
> in the city govt and no flouride in the water. This means my GDs will
> be plagued with cavities, jes like I was. My daughter never had a
> single cavity (almost 10 yrs) till we moved from a fluoridated town to
> a non-fluoridated town. I would buy fluoridated water for my GDs.
>
> nb
>
If fluoride is (allegedly) so bad why is it added to toothpaste? Why do
they sell fluoride rinses? Why do dentists give fluoride treatments? I
really don't understand the paranoia about fluoride.

Jill

On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 11:17:39 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:43:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> > Helpful person wrote:
> > >
> > > Distilled water is also missing trace elements that are
> > > essential for good health. If one only drinks distilled
> > > water one's health will suffer.
> >
> > Not only that but with bottled water too. Dentist told me that a study
> > was run and rural people drinking well water suffered many more
> > cavities by not having the floride added like city water does.
>
> I disagree based on personal experience, but my uncle was a dentist -
> so maybe he gave us fluoride treatments and I don't remember.
> However, stress will cause cavities too... your saliva turns acid and
> eats the tooth enamel.
>
You're absolutely wrong. There are myriads of studies that show that an
intake of a trace amount of fluoride results in significantly fewer
cavities. This is why it's a no brainer to add fluoride to drinking water.

http://www.richardfisher.com

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/4/2013 9:41 AM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2013-12-04, Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Pete C. > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid you are absolutely wrong. Bottled water does not contain
>>>> chlorine or fluoride, both highly toxic chemicals, nor does it contain
>>>
>>> Purity of Essence.
>>
>> I don't know what the above is, but I do know Pete, as usual, is dead
>> wrong. It's quite difficult to find bottled water that does NOT
>> contain small amts of chorine and salt, both allowed by the FDA. As
>> for flouride, it is offered as option from some brands of bottled
>> water, like Alhambra water in CA. This because some municipalities,
>> like the one where my granddaughters live, have commie fearing morons
>> in the city govt and no flouride in the water. This means my GDs will
>> be plagued with cavities, jes like I was. My daughter never had a
>> single cavity (almost 10 yrs) till we moved from a fluoridated town to
>> a non-fluoridated town. I would buy fluoridated water for my GDs.
>>
>> nb
>>
> If fluoride is (allegedly) so bad why is it added to toothpaste? Why do
> they sell fluoride rinses? Why do dentists give fluoride treatments? I
> really don't understand the paranoia about fluoride.
>
One of the loonie fringe arguments is that it is industrial waste! But hell,
the lanolin used in a plethora of women's cosmetics is too. In fact, it used
to be extracted from sewage in towns where wool processing was a major
industry!
Graham

On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 21:19:13 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
[...]
>
>I'm afraid you are absolutely wrong. Bottled water does not contain
>chlorine or fluoride, both highly toxic chemicals, nor does it contain
>the numerous additional toxic reaction products these two toxins produce
>when they contact the decades of sludge in every municipal water system.
>Bottled water is absolutely safer than municipal tap water in every
>scientifically provable way.

So. Has anyone gotten around to scientifically demonstrating the
"proof" or are we to take it as a given that is too axiomatic to test
and just rely on lurid imagination?

On 2013-12-04, Cindy Hamilton > wrote:

> It's a reference to Dr. Strangelove. The character Colonel Jack D. Ripper
> was insane, and in addition to launching the nuclear weapons, he
> ranted on and on about fluoridation. He needed to maintain the
> purity of essence of his precious bodily fluids, so he drank
> only pure grain alcohol and rainwater.

Ahh! I haven't seen that movie in decades, but a classic, to be
sure.

nb

On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 11:26:50 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> If fluoride is (allegedly) so bad why is it added to toothpaste? Why do
> they sell fluoride rinses? Why do dentists give fluoride treatments? I
> really don't understand the paranoia about fluoride.

I'm firmly in the fluoride is good camp although I don't like how it
makes water taste. Here are some of the arguments "against"...
http://fluoridealert.org/articles/50-reasons/

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 21:19:13 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 12/3/2013 12:40 PM, wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 6:36:16 AM UTC-8, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfPAjUvvnIc
>> >
>> > The truth about tap water:
>> >
>> > http://articles.latimes.com/1985-01-..._birth-defects
>> >
>> > http://www.cs.duke.edu/~narten/faq/water-treatment.html
>> >
>> > But if it's safe for pregnant women to drink, and it's not killing your fish,
>> > it's not too bad. But after years of drinking bottled water, drinking, say,
>> > Chicago water is like jumping into a swimming pool.
>> >
>> I dunno about Chicago water. I get an occasional 'water report'. I
>> drink tap water. I don't pay for bottled water. The only reason I ever
>> had to buy bottled water was when we lived in Bangkok.
>>
>> Memphis water was from natural aquifers. Just fine and not toxic. Here
>> I drink filtered water from the tap. Bottled water is a waste of money
>> and everyone thinks it is "healtier". I say BS. Just more plastic bottles.
>>
>> Jill
>
>I'm afraid you are absolutely wrong. Bottled water does not contain
>chlorine or fluoride, both highly toxic chemicals, nor does it contain
>the numerous additional toxic reaction products these two toxins produce
>when they contact the decades of sludge in every municipal water system.
>Bottled water is absolutely safer than municipal tap water in every
>scientifically provable way.

You are truly an imbecile... bottled water IS tap water... what a dumb
ass.

sf wrote:
>
> However, stress will cause cavities too... your saliva turns acid and
> eats the tooth enamel.

That's a fact too, as told to me by the dentist. Long term stress or a
bad illness can cause your teeth to go bad.

G.

On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:43:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Helpful person wrote:
>>
>> Distilled water is also missing trace elements that are
>> essential for good health. If one only drinks distilled
>> water one's health will suffer.
>
>Not only that but with bottled water too. Dentist told me that a study
>was run and rural people drinking well water suffered many more
>cavities by not having the floride added like city water does.

That's not true. Fluoride tooth paste is more than sufficient, and
dentists give fluoride treatments. My bottle of Listerine contains
sodium fluoride. Btw, most municipal water supplies do not contain
fluoride. Fluoride only works on contact with tooth enamel, absorbed
by the body it offers no tooth protection whatsoever, however can
cause medical problems... for fluoridated water to be of benefit one
would need to drink more fluoridated water than is healthful. One
should discuss this issue with a competant dentist, not your dentist.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:43:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> >Not only that but with bottled water too. Dentist told me that a study
> >was run and rural people drinking well water suffered many more
> >cavities by not having the floride added like city water does.
>
> That's not true.

I'll trust my dentist and not you.

> Fluoride tooth paste is more than sufficient, and
> dentists give fluoride treatments. My bottle of Listerine contains
> sodium fluoride.

I use "Act" anticavity flouride rinse and it has been working for me.
They told me that was good too. Many checkups with no cavities.

G.

On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 13:02:43 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>>
>> However, stress will cause cavities too... your saliva turns acid and
>> eats the tooth enamel.
>
>That's a fact too, as told to me by the dentist. Long term stress or a
>bad illness can cause your teeth to go bad.
>
>G.

Not only that "Stress Kills".

In article >,
says...


> This is why it's a no brainer to add fluoride to drinking water.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/fea...ldrens-health-
grandjean-choi/


http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancerc.../athome/water-
fluoridation-and-cancer-risk


Janet UK

On 12/3/2013 7:19 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 12/3/2013 12:40 PM, wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 6:36:16 AM UTC-8, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfPAjUvvnIc
>>>
>>> The truth about tap water:
>>>
>>> http://articles.latimes.com/1985-01-..._birth-defects
>>>
>>> http://www.cs.duke.edu/~narten/faq/water-treatment.html
>>>
>>> But if it's safe for pregnant women to drink, and it's not killing your fish,
>>> it's not too bad. But after years of drinking bottled water, drinking, say,
>>> Chicago water is like jumping into a swimming pool.
>>>
>> I dunno about Chicago water. I get an occasional 'water report'. I
>> drink tap water. I don't pay for bottled water. The only reason I ever
>> had to buy bottled water was when we lived in Bangkok.
>>
>> Memphis water was from natural aquifers. Just fine and not toxic. Here
>> I drink filtered water from the tap. Bottled water is a waste of money
>> and everyone thinks it is "healtier". I say BS. Just more plastic bottles.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I'm afraid you are absolutely wrong. Bottled water does not contain
> chlorine or fluoride, both highly toxic chemicals, nor does it contain
> the numerous additional toxic reaction products these two toxins produce
> when they contact the decades of sludge in every municipal water system.
> Bottled water is absolutely safer than municipal tap water in every
> scientifically provable way.
>

With one caveat, bacteria count.

Sometimes that can be out of range.

On 12/4/2013 7:29 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-12-04, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Probably rust. Could be the pipes along the way. Our town is replacing
>> some that are 100+ years old.
>
> In some gas fracking areas, the pollution is so severe the tap water
> will burn!
>
> nb
>
A very isolated occurrence given how much fracking here is.